Great video Phil. For Griots Foaming Surface wash the recommended dilution ratio is 2 oz (1.6 oz for Boss Foam Cannon). At 2 oz that’s $0.81 per wash for a gal. $1.18 per wash for 35 oz at $21.67. I’ve used numerous top brand soaps/“foaming soaps” (not your V2 yet), and Foaming Surface Wash is the only one I’ve experienced visibly increase the ability to remove dirt/debris/bugs with a pressure washer. Think post road trip, road grime/bug/rain filth. For reference, both of my vehicles are ceramic coated and washed weekly to bi-weekly. I’m sharing my experience for whatever it’s worth. My comment is in regard to a pre-wash foam soap being used for self cleansing purposes. Not a contact wash soap.

Thanks for cost per wash! I’ve been following your channel for 5 yrs. and your car foaming car wash regimen for my then new 2018 Infiniti Q50. I also have used Griots Garage Foaming Surface Wash and poly gloss. After trying the brilliant surface wash, I didn’t care for the low foam production. I’ll stick to the tried and true Griots Foaming Wash and Poly gloss! As far as the cost, I usually buy the griot’s products when discounted or with my Amazon Prime Points.

I'd love to see where the new diy incredible suds is at in that brake down. I keep hearing great things about it. Great video! Thank you.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

never hard of that one but stay tuned for the Rain X Foaming Car Soap next I just got the huge bottle on Amazon for $4 which is so ridiculous that is makes the cost per wash .16 cents!

Sup Phil. Great review. U gonna review the DIY details brand?

Such a great video! Bar raised!

Great video. I picked up at bottle at my local autozone to give it a try. I have to say i did get better foam. I as well use the brllliant finish foam cannon hooked to an electric greenworks 2000psi and 1.2 gpm. Definitely love Griot’s products. Good stuff!

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

surprised I did not get better foam honestly I have now used it 3 total washes and the results were the same as i played around with my pressure washer. As a hunch i grabbed a brand new Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon from my cabinet as I have several spares and there was no change on my end. could be the NYC water who knows but I am going to test it next time with the MTM PF22 cannon

Right out of the gate, looks great! Nice foam.

great comprehensive list for us in these economic times. As you've said cost/wash is also a factor you should consider when choosing a product along with the capabilities of it. Glad that Snow storm is there on par with the big brand names.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is nice to see we are competitive in the market as well with all of our products. Value today is very important because washing your car to most is not as important as buying food for the family etc. I think going forward I will do these product reviews in a similar fashion to highlights the costs and value of these products I had fun doing this one recently.

@joebal9044

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars LOL 4.29/wash? Must be the same person that pays 100K over MSRP for a Z06 C8.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

ha ha ha thats funny Joe we all know who loves that expensive soap, I never realized it until I did the numbers how insane that is per wash right

All you need is 1.5 oz of soap mixed with 14.5 oz of water to get perfect foam, no matter what soap you are using. Spent months perfecting this ratio. Also gives you the perfect amount of liquid to do an entire car and even have some leftover. 4oz of soap is a huge waste of product, not economical. I bought a gallon of the foaming surface wash over 2 years ago and I still havnt used the whole gallon yet.

I use the foaming Gloss for a quick sealant on my cheaper exterior wash package. A great product and easy to apply, rinse, and dry!

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

foaming poly gloss smells incredible and for a quick gloss boost I love it in the spring and summer months outside

Just purchased this Brilliant Foam Snow foam today. I have farm dust and pollen and this wash process makes me happy. I’ll post a video short on my first impressions here on KZread. Proably will be Thursday before I can wash my car with the pressure washer. It’s still in storage (over winter 🥶)

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

hi John post your results here when yo try it this week on your car. The foam cleans awesome the only dislike I seem to keep finding is it does strip the finish of the car quite a bit if you have protection on it. We noticed this on ceramic coated cars and non ceramic coated cars this is the only negative we noticed so keep an eye on that after you finish the wash

I recently picked up 5L of Bilt Hamber Touchless and it’s the most powerful prewash I’ve ever used by a very long shot. I really wish we could get it as cheap as our friends across the pond get it. It’s almost 3 times the price for us, and it’s almost a dealbreaker for how much you have to use.

Great video Phil. Would be interested to hear your feedback on Griots new Ceramic tire dressing.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Been testing their ceramic tire dressing for the last 8 weeks under various conditions I might do a video one day on it but works well so far nothing about the performance stands out yet for durability.

Great vid as always. Any regrets on going the IOMG color?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Not at all Love the color and spec overall, it works on this car wont work on other cars thats for sure

I'm using this cannon with the 007 Snow Storm (2oz) and my Active 2.0. The thickness is real

@autofanaticcars

11 ай бұрын

awesome to hear that pressure washer and our soap is a winning combo have fun

The GSF dilution is 20ml for normal contact wash or 50ml if you want thick foam.

Great video. Which snow foam in your opinion cleans the best without stripping the sealant?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

honestly you need to try our new Auto Fanatic 07 Snow Storm Soap i feel it's one of the bests for performance and value. most others strip the surface bad. this Griots Soap after using it a few times is too harsh and it does strip the finish pretty bad similar to DAWN. Not sure what they were thinking in developing it but it does clean awesome so there is a tradeoff i guess

Im a huge fan of griotts products also! I will say i just bought the mjjc foam cannon and does a fantastic job of foaming any soap so far. I use a ryobi 1800 psi electric pressure washer with it. Also do you ever go to cars and coffee in Westchester? Im from ny too

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

We just had a cars and coffee outside the shop reach out to be on our mailing list for next time. The drive to Peekskill is horrible with the destroyed roads on 9 so i try to avoid that area

@wick6315

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars sweet! I'll definitely sign up and bring my car. Silly question, but is there a site to do this?

First off Phil...it must be a real treat to wash that M3 just based on the color😎 Now onto my main comment, waiting on your to review Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam on your channel. I've NEVER used a better pre-wash in my life. It's basically the same price as Griot's Garage foaming surface wash w/ a 13 & 12 pH. It's only available in the U.S. @ The Clean Garage😉

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

I would never ever ever use any product with a PH of 12-13 this will cause all premature corrosion on suspension and brake finishes and hardware if not rinsed off well and over long term. Of course it works well that PH is actually considered caustic and HAZMAT FYI and any PH from 12 and above is legally supposed to require special shipping and handling and is considered HAZMAT look this up. I went down this road years ago learning about this stuff when developing our product line with my independent chemists.

@klasseact6663

Жыл бұрын

@Auto Fanatic I'm sure its not that high mixed with water

@KiranPatel-fk1pg

Жыл бұрын

@@klasseact6663 I prefer something like Koch Chemie Active foam, super slick, cleans well and is only a pH of 9.5 and at my dilutions comes down to 7.5. I don't think you'd want to cover your car, rubber trim, door jambs, suspension etc in high alkaline every wash. Bilt hambers touchless and autofoam in my mind are the equivalent of using a high alkaline APC. Something I'd only use on a Decon / prep

What is drying AIDE? Just towel drying or something? And LOOOOOVE PAN THE ORGANIZER!!! THAT GUY IS A BEAST IN THIS DETAIL FIELD. Very therapeutic too

Can these products be effective with a garden hose….or do you need a pressure washer?

Awesome video ! I have a question - I'm at 1,010 miles with my 2023 X3MC, haven't done a "foot to the floor" yet as I'm waiting for the break-in service - would you say you this is something important to follow?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

I had my break in service done last month be patient the fluids are replaced with better fluids for higher rpm use

Looking forward to the Rain X review. It’s so cheap its probably made with real rain.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

ha ha ha i wonder if it is simply repackaged Palmolive dish soap we will see, gonna wash the black Alfa Stelvio QV with it to test.

@Carlos.Rivera

Жыл бұрын

Damn... good one😂

I picked up 3x 1 gallon jugs of Honeydew snow foam on prime day in 2020 for $16 and 2x Maxi Suds last prime day for $18. Chemical guys stuff is quite economic if you wait for the right sale.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

the CG soaps have been a staple for well over 15 years but they work decent but there are so many more options to choose from. Stay tuned I will have the Rain X Car Soap video this week and I got the gallon for $4 making it the absolute cheapest soap ever to wash we will see how well it does in a test this week

Hey Phil. Much appreciate the video. Wanted to ask if GSF has changed there dilution ratio for the foam cannon from my bottle that is about year old. Per my bottle it says use 20ml in a 1L foam cannon. That's close to 0.75oz. Let me know where I can get this info for the dilution change so I can keep up to date moving forward. Thanks and keep up the great videos.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

. pay attention to what they say they mention 20ML into a foam sprayer which is a hand held foamer not a foam cannon they both require very different dilution ratios. Most guys are using it with 150ML in the PF22 foam cannon that is 5 oz per wash

@natemarcy3939

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars thank you for the clarification! 👍🏼

Do you actually pour water in the container before you shook it?

I loved the surface wash but it has become difficult to get, I’m currently using Koch chemie Gsf with that same cannon and an AR blue pressure washer - let’s wait for you soap to try

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Can you order the Surface Wash direct from Griots or your out of the USA? spending that much per wash is crazy these days for gsf i just think price per wash is way to high considering the market these days. Your gonna really like our V2 soap and we also sell in bulk at wholesale pricing if you ever need in the future which is such a great value. please report back when you use it a few times.

@luisln4841

Жыл бұрын

I’m outside US but I get everything ordered in the US as I live fairly close to the border

@luisln4841

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Koch is expensive and I hate that I cannot find the gallon anymore in Amazon I will try your foam and see how it goes

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

are you in Canada?

@luisln4841

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars negative I’m on the fun side of the ” wall “

I just purchased this today... but haven't tried yet. Just subscribed to your channel. I'm sure you u tried it again. What are your thoughts on it now at this point?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Try it a few times and report back. Soap cleans well but seems harsher than I would like and strips protection. Consider trying our 007 Snowstorm back to back youll see quite a difference

What drying aid should I use ?

Phil, have you tried the Bilt Hamber snow foams? Either Touch-Less or Auto-Foam? A lot of UK guys seem to really love their products, and they look like they provide for a great touchless cleaning experience. Would love to hear your thoughts about them if you're looking to try some new products.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Andy their soaps have mega high Ph and they strip the finish pretty harshly and using high Ph soaps cause very bad corrosion on suspension hardware and the braking systems. People need to take time to realize how important the soaps you use are to to preservation of your investment (car). I have tested their soaps years ago the self cleaning is not Ph neutral our soap does an amazing job and is safer to use.

@andyhedin4893

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars Thanks for your feedback Phil. I figured the cleaning ability of their snow foams was probably offset by some negatives. I'd rather stay closer to PH neutral, and have a safer cleaning experience.

@huseyinalskan5539

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars i was close to buy the bilt hamber, but not anymore ( :

I'll stick with bilt hamber touch less. Best I've found

Can I use this on a ceramic coated car ?

I got the same type of results with my active ve52 and brilliant finish foam cannon

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing, the soap itself performs excellent, also has good lubrication

@23dothedew

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars I thought so too! I’m gonna try it in the MJJC and see if it gets any thicker.

can you use a car wash mitt with this?

Why not do a critique on “The Boss” cannon with automix feature???

I’m with you on Koch Chemie GSF. Too expensive and I don’t think it’s any good. It’s in that sticky category and doesn’t want to rinse off. Other Koch Chemie products have been great but GSF isn’t worth half its price

@Carlos.Rivera

Жыл бұрын

Hyped product if you ask me. Would rather spend top cash with RESET

@Ricky_R

Жыл бұрын

Reset is my favorite

Me flipa cuando le pone mucha espuma de prelavado, mucha espuma de prelavado, mucha espuma de prelavado jajaja...😂😂

I don’t think Koch recommends 5oz that’s just what Matt from OG suggests it says 20ml in a foam cannon which is probably a little too low if you want thick foam but you definitely don’t need the full 5oz

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

no everyone is reading the label incorrectly they say 20ML for a "foam sprayer" which is a small hand held foamer not a foam cannon the foam cannon is 5oz the dilutions are very different between a cannon and pump up foamer it is confusing to almost everyone who reads the label

I'm looking for something to help with my situation. Living on an island and get some rain or drew almost daily. Water spots are always an issue. Will pre wash or any auto fanatic products help with this? Or protect from it ?

@joef4845

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind a contact wash weekly but am nervous of drying it and pulling off any waxes I have on. So I used drying aids. Got some products from all over but hoping to get some easy. Buy this, do these steps and it's the best way to keep it clean

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Hi Joe the issue with water spots is your lack of protection our products can easily help your issue for sure. Our Auto Fanatic Hyper Gloss if used as a ceramic spray sealant will stop the water marks then every morning you can rise, or blow dry the car or even use our 007 Ceramic Detailer to wipe the car easily and not even have to wash. Also our soap can be used in direct sun and warm tropical climates we sell a lot to the Puerto Rico and other similar regions of climate. You can visit our website to learn more on each product.

@joef4845

Жыл бұрын

Great info. Thank you. I do 3 in 1 griots ceramic spray for drying aid. I don't spray and blow daily but maybe I'll add that so it doesn't have a chance to dry. Sun and humidity and you soap works , I'm picking some up now Thank you

You are a more brave man than I, leaving that water and soap in the sunlight for 5 minutes plus. Tell me more about your filter.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Hi Steve I just use a simple CAMCO inline RV water filter on my water feed I did videos on the channel if you search. My NYC water supply has massive chlorine which gives instant flash rust on rotors, less foam and water spots the filters i swear by them for my needs and I change mine once per month since I wash and own so many cars

I wanted to see foaming gloss. I noticed foaming DOES strip protection. I would foam on extremely dirty cars.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

harsher soaps with higher PH will strip protection but the good soaps disclose Ph balance which wont strip protection.

12 washes. At 4 oz in canon

Incredible 😢

Your koch chemie dilution ratio is misleading. Its recomended 1:30 up to 1:5. If used as a weekly maintenance wash you would never use a 1:5 ration.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

not misleading you need 4-5 oz in a foam cannon Not Foam Sprayer read the label on the back. with that stuff to get decent foam comparable to anything on the market requires much more soap and everyone knows this. it is clearly overpriced and overhyped up because they paid every big KZreadr to praise it.

Is the holeshot discontinued?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

yes we no longer make that and replaced it with Mega Gloss which is way more popular and sells better. it seems the market prefers higher gloss but you still can get a nice satin finish with Mega Gloss using various application methods so its a win for everyone and makes sense to have 1 product for both needs. Mega Gloss is also Si02 formulated

@WHY.A.H.WHY.A

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars personally im more of a matte/satin finish person, loved the original holeshot, the bottle lasted me 2+ years, what is the best method to get satin look from the new version?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

Hi if you want a satin finish use those foam tire dressing applicators and just wipe to your desired level of sheen thats all it takes. once you try it a few times youll get into as pattern to do it each time easily

Maybe you got less foam because your pressure washer have more gpm, hence diluted even more

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

not at all my complete system makes incredible foam like 99% of the time with all good soaps as all my videos show. When the PSI is reduced on my machine the GPM ranges from 2.5-3 which is ideal for the foam cannon, the soap itself is a solid product as the video shows.

Are you the same person that makes the auto fanatic 007?

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

yes that is part of our product line

@Westboundandown

Жыл бұрын

@@autofanaticcars right on I recently got a bottle of the 007

3 ounces of any soap is more than enough. Just ad 25 warm ounces and you're all set.

You did a really good job explaining this. It was therapeutic for me. My car already super clean but after watching this video, I want to make it wet wet 😜 📸 😍 📸

Thick snow foam is for the ladies. Surfactants for the enthusiast.

@autofanaticcars

Жыл бұрын

when you have the phrase snow foam the end user is expecting it to be thick like the standard of the industry. but it is a solid soap non the less.

My foam cannon make more foam with that product