I like how she is going over her poses in her head as you're explaining everything, total Pro and gorgeous model

Since there's a grid on the beauty dish, that reflector won't get much light to bounce off, so it's a good idea to use a fill light from below instead of the reflector when using a grid so that you prevent those harsh shadows under her chin.

@jasonbodden8816

2 жыл бұрын

You don't always need to fill in shadows. The grid was put there for a more dynamic shot, to show you the difference between no grid and when the grid is attached. It just depends on what you're going for. I agree the reflector is pointless with the grid on the beauty dish but the point there wasn't to fill in the shadows.

I know this is an old video, but why one earth didn't you nail the exposure in all three demo shots so we could actually see the difference made by the grid? Otherwise though, a great idea to show people. Thanks

Thank you for the detailed walk-through. One thing I especially liked about the grid was that it brought back just enough shadow to provide good separation between the chin and neck. Great shoot!

Excellent video tutorial, simple ,yet very impacting. Love the results. Make more videos Miguel !

Thank you for sharing a simple set up for us to use and apply!! You are awesome with all your videos!!

Great video with very useful tips. I had't previously thought about mounting a grid on my beauty dish. Effective way to push creativity out further.

Thanks, Miguel and Noel. Very nice look to those final shots!

Thanks, that was a very useful tutorial on how to use a B.D and also the observation Miguel made on how to use the air blower.

Excellent video, Miguel. Very informative! Can't wait to get my hands on the 70-200GM.

Thats the beauty of long hair; Noelles got it. Thanks Miguel.

He did amazing. Gracias don miguel

Great video. I especially appreciate how thorough you explain your setup. Really nice. Comparing shadows and quality of light is always very interesting. But comparing EXPOSURES (as in "too bright") in this instance is not valid because it is up to the photographer to have a proper exposure metered for whatever particular light/modifiers are in place at the time the shutter is released. If different exposure settings are necessary then that is what has to happen. Or different power settings.

At first I was wondering why you would use the silver side of the reflector, but as you added the grid, it became clear that there was so little light hitting the reflector that the silver side made sense. I was wondering about the settings: I can only guess that the studio was so bright for the video: iso 160 does not make any sense in my mind. 2.8, iso 100 and 1/3200 would be equivalent and maybe get you a tad more into optimal conditions for the sensor. I would have liked that you had explained why you chose these specific settings. But thanks for the nice comparison of the progressive build for the shot.

quite impressive. Like what you did with the fan

Interesting and useful. Thank you!

Yo...that model was in character the whole video ... awesome !!

Good stuff as usual. Thanks.

You've come a long way Miguel 🙂

Great job on the setup and explanation of everything. Definitely an interesting approach to attain your particular look. It's funny, after reading through the comments, I find it interesting that noone is commenting on the hair coming across her neck. I suppose this is just a tutorial and not a final end all be all. Anyways, I like the shooting at 2.8.

Loved it.

Great job, Miguel!

Thank Miguel Quiles for a good tutorial video

great video

The one with the reflector is slightly overexposed but is the best. The GRID is adding high contrast. Beauty Fashion shots should be slightly softer.

Great work

Awesome video

i like the shot with no grid and with reflector

Love the photos. I love what the grid does. What focal length were you using on the 70 to 200 mm lens

Miguel, I really like how you explain the settings & steps in your videos...well done! But I did think the model's hair being blown under her chin by the fan was a little annoying and could have been easily corrected. Also, I agree with Charlie G. that the grid eliminated the use of the silver reflector and cast a shadow under her chin. Unless, of course that was intentional on your part and was the look you were going for here.

with using grid from that distance, all you did, is to eliminate the reflector because of an angle of grid. It's not a bad idea to move the beauty dish a bit closer.

Thanks for the video! I have a similar collapsible backdrop, but don't know how to hold it up (I lean it against the wall.) is there a special stand you gave?

Thanks for another tutorial Miguel. Why did you wash out the color of the video? It looks like you shot it in Slog with no post production.

Finding the angle of a grid isn’t complicated, it just requires a bit of math. It’s actually the same math as finding the angle of view of a lens, knowing the sensor size and focal length. With a grid you have the size of each square and you have the thickness of the grid. The simple diagram has a rectangle with the height being the thickness of the grid and the width being the size of each opening with two lines crossing which represent the light. The lines cross at the center, creating a triangle who’s height = 1/2 the thickness of the grid and who’s base is the size of each opening. That triangle is the angle of the grid. But wait, there’s more. I’m sure you’ve noticed that grids don’t give you the sharp edges that a snoot creates. That’s because you’ve calculated the angle based on a circular opening, the grid square has corners which are slightly larger than our model of the grid. Doing the math will accurately tell you about light fall off of the grid. Wouldn’t this be better than “I don’t know what the angle of the grid is”?

Miguel, i see beauty dish come in different sizes, which one were you using and does it really matter the size; also would you use to photograph couple for weddings, or just for one individual? Thanks in advance.

With the reflector, Miguel complained that the image was over-exposed without the grid. As we know, grid cuts down the light output. Shouldn't he reduce the light for the case without the grid to yield a fair comparison? It is a confusing test that he did.

@Marckymarc71

7 жыл бұрын

Seriously right? Overexposed without the grid? Drop the strobe power a stop and a half!

@wjohnson20

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly right

@stevenmeansphotography3861

2 жыл бұрын

without grid and reflector looks better

Nice work

I prefer the shot without the grid. But need to dial down slightly.

@RayValdezPhotography

5 жыл бұрын

Of course, normally a grid isnt used for general purposes but usually for a more dramatic portrait.

hi, how did you got the ilumination for filming the anbience that you are Shooting ? I like this Kind of soft Illumination.Thanks for helping. Your tutorials are very good!

Thanks for the video. who is the manufacture of the Sand/boom use in this viedo?

Great video. What type of fan was that?

Thanks for this video. I personally, think that the dish wouldn't produce what I am looking for in a great portrait, so I just regret that I bought it today. However, I will keep experimenting and appreciate the presenter of this video. If anyone knows how to use this dish different than what was presented here, please share it with me. Thanks a lot.

@weddingbells100

Жыл бұрын

Look for Karl Taylor's correct way using the beauty Dish on youtube

Can someone please tell me what is the name of this specific background that is being used behind the model ?

you said one light. What is that giant rectangle of bright white to the models left (your right)?

Lovely ..

I note that after you added the grid the reflector fill appears less noticeable and there is a strong shadow under the chin, like the first shot without the reflector. Was this an artistic choice or could you further increase the fill by angling the reflector and reducing the shadow? Great video. Thanks.

@urshitoza

7 жыл бұрын

Melvin Markowitz As the the grid stops the light from spilling, it also stops spilling on the reflector. Hence, the use of Beauty dish with grid is for more contrasty and dramatic portraits. While if you want more flattering soft light then you may want to chose a 5' octabox.

@k2jwd

7 жыл бұрын

Urshit Oza: Thanks for the reply. I have a similar setup in my small home studio. I use the RapidBox Duo with the deflector plate, simulating a beauty dish. I also use the inner diffusion baffle and outer diffuser which softens the light, similar to a diffusion sock on a beauty dish. I also use a 40 degree grid to limit spill and better focus the light. I use a boom to shoot on axis like Miguel does in this video. I use a 40" white reflector angled about 30 degrees upward to reduce the shadows. Even with the grid in place there is sufficient fill for me to see the catchlight from the reflector in the subject's eyes. That's why I asked Miguel if he chose to not angle the reflector for creative/artistic reasons. Keeping it flat obviously stops the fill when the grid is in place. Some people like the strong shadow below the chin/mandible. Some prefer a flatter light without the shadow. BTW, I get a very flattering, soft light with my setup.

NICE VIDEO

Did you meter for the dish or dish plus grid because you seemed to compare different setups without metering for each? Apples to Oranges.

@Marckymarc71

7 жыл бұрын

Seriously. And then he says, "the grid is helping with the exposure". Um, WHAT?! Use a friggin light meter Dude.

@transparent1054

7 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you. I saw no metering with/without a grid and at least one stop of light would be robbed when using the grid. Also the reflector would have to be angled to accommodate the angle of reflection when the beauty dish is grided. Laying it flat will not kick any light upwards.

@datdudenosense

7 жыл бұрын

You guys are a bunch of wieners..... put down your Yoo-hoos and go shoot more photos.

Thankful I love u

Does feathering also apply when using the beauty dish?

how do u get one of these backgrounds? what is it exactly called? because collapsible backgrounds didnt work

Who makes the boom? I have a C-stand and would love to ad that..

What arm is that on your c-stands and where can I get one?

Nice video. What background do you use?

Hello, The stand and boom are not listed, what are they ?

Nice! Pretty model, eyes really stunning :). What’s that big rectangular soft box for in this video?

@kierannorth3965

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wondered that. Is it there to look pretty or is it being used as a subtle fill?

@JohnMacLeanPhotography

6 жыл бұрын

It’s for the video capture.

Can't you please tell what focal length were these shot?

what's the name of the back drop!? is is a lastolite?

What is the diameter of the beauty dish?

I love the fact that Noel spends all her time posing for the camera even when he is no where near it. It makes me laugh. Like she is telling him to just get on with it, and shoot!!!

@neilnigrelli2323

4 жыл бұрын

LOL Exactly was I was thinking. I'm like, "who the hell is she posing for?"

With the grid there is no point of using the reflector.

@Tilbard

7 жыл бұрын

I'm still learning strobes, but I will hazard a guess as to why you made this statement. Is it because the grid directs the light in a more linear fashion, and minimizes spill light, which in turn doesn't provide much for the reflector to bounce?

@JoeJacksonJr

7 жыл бұрын

Yep, using the grid there is no light to hit the reflector.. Also f/2.8 and 1/5000sec HSS LOL.. What possible lights does he actually have in his studio, they must be bright as the sun...

@JoeJacksonJr

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Jon, if your looking for more videos on portrait lighting then you may find my channel of interest. Cheers..

@jjbenz9633

7 жыл бұрын

if thats the case simply reposition beauty dish at a steeper angle. Wallah

@RMO6701

7 жыл бұрын

Miley onDisney LMAO

Where can I get that background?

I wished he would have taken a shot of the grided beauty dish without the reflector & with to compare. It looked like to me the reflector was useless because of the 30/40 degree cut with the beauty dish. The shadows are harsh compared to the shot without the grid.

@JoeJacksonJr

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. IMHO the shots with the grid looked just a little to dark and lifeless. That and shooting at f/2.8 in a studio bugs the mess out of me..

@JoeyDoingThings

7 жыл бұрын

Joe's Photo & Video Channel by shooting at 2.8 in the studio, that backdrop went blurry, that's why he did that.

@zenabsameer749

7 жыл бұрын

Charlie Gillespie

Where do you get your back drops?

This is really misleading. It's the exposure setting that caused the overexposure that's easily corrected, and the grid only looks like it adds some vignetting. How is the vignette added in post any different than that added by a grid?

@wanneske1969

5 жыл бұрын

The grid reduces the strobe power output by half.

Interesting points, but when using the grid, it is so tightly focused that the reflector seems to be adding nothing.

@airb1976

7 жыл бұрын

Roger Eriksen I thought the same. And it is clearly seen on the pictures. It could help to rise the reflector up

@DavidCelaya

7 жыл бұрын

Correct. You can see where the lights and reflectors are positioned (in the front anyway) by looking at the eyes. In the second shot, you can clearly see the main light at the top of her eye, and the reflection of the reflector at the bottom of her eye. After the grid was added, the reflection at the bottom of her eye is gone. The grid shot is more dramatic, but I would agree that most people would prefer a slightly less exposed version of the second shot with the reflected light in the bottom of the eye. There's a reason Westcott makes a very popular $250-300 eye lighter reflector.

What back drop are you using ?

What type of fan?

Where can I get that fan?

What is that table called that you using to hold your reflector?

@llg4958

7 жыл бұрын

A posing table.

I think I heard you said ISO at 160, is there any reason why 160 instead of 100? Thanks

@joshuagutierrez8407

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Wong On Canon, with each third of a stop, you first bring out the shadows, then the highlights then the full stop. So, he could be at 160 to maximize just highlights. Although he's teaching, he leaves that part out.

I think the slightly over exposed were the best.

nice, i was just wondering why not shoot at a slower speed and maybe f3.5 if you had her moving?

@llg4958

7 жыл бұрын

He said he wanted focus to fall off- f/3.5 puts more in focus. A slower shutter speed might introduce motion blur, especially after he turned on the fan.

@erevan14

2 жыл бұрын

@@llg4958 No motion blur cause flash duration freeze motion. And low power flash (at F:2.8) means shorter flash discharge.

Beautiful, what camera settings you had used??

Um it's only over exposed in the first 2 images because it was shot over exposed. all ya gotta do is change your values....

shot with beauty dish no grid with reflector is actually good for an actors head shot do you agree

With the grid I think the refletor is useless, the grid block the full potencial of the reflector to fill shadows under her face. (Neck).

Nice video but I hate the backdrop, I feel the wall alone would have worked better.

The beauty dish with the reflector is a nice combination for softening the shadows on the model's face. There's a fine line between flattering shadows and unpleasant ones. Is it just me, or is anyone else distracted by the fact that the model keeps posing throughout the entire video?

@alkohallick2901

6 жыл бұрын

Rus Healy Nope. She's beautiful.

@tlamb073

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed Bewitching id say.

@kimberleealexandria-day6886

6 жыл бұрын

I was.

How you don’t get any shadow?

@Lastman10101

6 жыл бұрын

reflector and the angle and closeness of the light

It would have been better to see the images used for comparison exposed equally. Without that, there's not much of a point as you can't determine light quality in a poorly exposed shot.

what's the name of the back drop

@LowLightVideos

7 жыл бұрын

3:30

what fan is that?

@spencediggz1

6 жыл бұрын

Stanley 655704 High Velocity Blower Fan

What C-Stand+Boom is that?

@transparent1054

7 жыл бұрын

I can't say with assurance but I think it's a Kupo. The boom arm looks like a Kupo as well.

@raymondparsons610

7 жыл бұрын

Great Portrait tips ! Most useful ! Excellent techniques able to put in my little bag of tricks ! Stunning gorgeous model ! Almost impossible to get a bad shot ! Love your camera and lens choice ! Lighting ! Lighting ! Lighting ! Time to break down and buy the Beauty Dish !

I prefer with refletor without grid.

😎😎

Sorry but inside, in low light, as I see in video, 1/5000 is just nonsense. Check with a light meter (or simply with camera) and for ISO 160 and F:2.8 a speed of 1/200 gives a pure black image. So ambient light is almost inexistant, and use of HSS in this situation is futile. What if flash does not support HSS? I think a good light knowledge can compensate lack of gear.

You change your lighting BUT you did not meter??? Oh look it's darker you say Come on you meant to be teaching......

@Marckymarc71

7 жыл бұрын

I know, right? More interested in pimping gear than teaching IMO.

first shots overexposed and the grid "cuts" the light from the reflector. This video is nonsense in multiple aspects...

@ja01975

3 жыл бұрын

yes exposure off.

SKIP AFTER 5:05

I thought the shot with no grid was best.

@5:25 disaster almost struck....

Unfortunately in this video everything is wrong!

if you put the grid there is no light bouncing to the reflector.. therefore you can see almost the same result as the first shot.... facepalm category...

What's with the lens not being secured to the tripod? Miguel bumps the camera and the camera and heavy lens flop back and forth as if they're just barely mounted to the tripod. And Miguel knows this because he moves his camera and lens around while he's shooting, even though the tripod is stationary and he hasn't loosened the head for camera movement. Why? I'd be worried about a very expensive camera/lens combination hitting the floor. If you need to move the camera, loosen the head a bit to permit movement, not let the camera flop around on the mount. Also, the reflector is basically doing nothing with the grid in place. It might be bouncing a bit of light from the subject herself but little else.

If your photo is overexposed you can turn down the power of the flash... You ruined the comparison really.

Beautiful model with a lot of patience. Good information but too repetitive. I could have started the video at the five minute mark and miss nothing.

Without trying to make each shot the best it could be, this is not a valuable demonstration.

I like the one where her eyes are straight on the best. At 2.8, the eye that is not closest to the camera gets softer

You can buy equipment and learn to shoot, but it is not a fact that you will get a beautiful model to work with. Thanks