Berger's speech is one of the most powerful denunciations of modern capitalism I have heard.

I find it astonishing that the auditorium is so empty considering the caliber of the speakers. When I was in school, Berger would have filled all seats.

@lwc1029

7 жыл бұрын

'in person......if not exactly in body' @52:00, perhaps?

@oldones59

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. When I was a grad student, I saw Ray Bradbury speak. It was incredible. The hall was packed.

A brilliant, illuminating program. Berger and Chomsky are titans of the soul and mind and offer much food for thought...and challenges that many of us are not willing or prepared to accept. Thank you for posting and sharing this.

read the transcript of the John Berger here: www.guernicamag.com/features/john_berger_7_15_11/

The room is now overflowing with over 25k students

Go directly to 12 minutes for the program.

I wonder why this video did not reach million views! We see things more clearer now but these honourable individuals saw it so many years ago!!! Still a lot of us is yet to accept or admit the exposed truths. Never thought it requires courage but it does, and don't let it go

thank you john, thank you all

Yeah....weird that the room isn't overflowing!

Can academics please dispense with introductions of other academics who then introduce the actual speakers whom we've come to hear and see?

@coreycox2345

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. A beauty of KZread is able to skip the parts I didn't come for, Adrian Michael Kelly. I will never know what kind of speakers they were because there is only so much time.

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John Berger 11:54

@butcherax

4 жыл бұрын

Good God thank you

this is so true and shaking, thank you

John Berger never fails to move me to tears. Who else was kind of surprised this talk was from 2014 and not an early 80s conference on HIV/AIDS back when it was called GRID, "Gay-Related Immune Deficiency". I know thar Berger did write about HIV, if anyone knows of any recordings of him speaking on the topic please share them!

I appreciated both of these comments, tarnopol

Odd -- guess most Dartmouth students aren't interested in hearing two worthwhile speakers. Chomsky, at least, usually overfills the room. Odd.

Of late i often use "reality frame" to describe how our options to choose have been limited more and more. That mostly can be brought down onto what the industry or the financial sector needs and would be best for them, as other options are either not paid for or would seem to the sane capitalist a waste of time to even try to imagine something else outside of the framework. Chomsky once refered to a similar concept as capatalist fundamentalism, as anything within the reality frame is good and everthing outside is unthinkable. My point with the wording "reality frame" is, that we loose possible realities similar like we loose languages by pushing away indigenous people or we lost knowledge when in the past through war we burned down liberaries. For those who live in the system, who are content there is nothing they lost, but who becomes aware that we may have taken better paths and still could, but dont, cant but feel sad and also to some extent a sence of loss is present. That last bit is but thought without perspective, as also Chomsky said, we still have the ability to change things and that awareness should be stronger in us, then all beatdowns we may have experienced. When i think about a zeitgeist picture/image which would describe all that then i must think back to a batch i have seen of a US secret service bureau showing a kraken grabing around the world, whereby i am aware that the kraken is also only a puppet of the system. I cant remeber who said it, but in essence it was, before you want to change the world into something "better"(whatever that is), you first need to identify and recognize reality. The views of Berenger give a perspective onto reality which not everybody either may accept or even comprehend, but can be quite useful if you intend to bring change. Thank you Sir. A word of warning, you may think in the terms of imprisonment, but talking to the jailers in this way, wont bring you anywhere, a language to make them realize what is happening needs to be on the one side scientific on the otehr side describing the trench between goals, without reminding them who those goals would help more. A qualitative discussion which includes them aswell in the goals and make them see that it is not about harming them, but freeing all and therefor creating a broader reality fram where all people can strive and develop individualy and also find again a connection to each other and our environment. ------------------------- I often remember a conflict i had within myself, which only was broken after a buddhist told me: "You live in a prison of your mind, of your own doing". This was a rather strange weekend i back then had, i was aprtly ill as i helped cleaning the quite big area from the automn leaves, when i brought back my tools to the small wooden hud, i noticed a bird inside. I immediatly had the longing to set it free, doing so by going towards it and shaking with the arms only disturbed the bird, so i stoped for a moment, then i went backwards keeping the doors open and jsut told them you can leave, and he left. At that time i found myself in a nearly religious experience as i drew immediatly the analogy to what the buddhist teacher said. Waht i took away from that weekend is that a lot of our problems we think we have are but nothing more a problem either of perspective or even deeper are illusions and prisons we cosntructed out of reaosns which may be way back in our past and we just kept using the same solutions without the nessasity anymore being present. While complexity is aluring, simplicity maybe missleading if not seen in context. Both ways ofthinking Bergers and Chomskys are but nessary to grasp reality i think. A few things we need to do to stop the metorite humanity are 1) stop population growth, one civil way maybe a "1 child per family" policy, till we find more complex regualtions for mass societies as we are 2) stop growth & waste religion of capitalism, there are so many polcies which are mostly clear which we would need to make, but as legislative is ruled by lobbiest are not improving 3) freeing democracy from capitalist influence in the sence that they dont do policies anymore. Banning lobbiests from congress and parlaments of democratic countries. 4) stop patent & property law which are mostly a from of protectionism, influence and power strangling of big companies towards all others A study of a swiss university showed that roughly 140 holding companies are owning 90% of most of all businesses worldwide. Those are also partly interconencted and if you look at who are the deciders within them and who are teh shareholders of these 147 companies you can extract another layer of control. In the resume of the study teh scientists said, it wasnt their goal and tehy were quite struck by the data and finding they stumbled upon and the outcome. The outcome would be that teh highest threat to democracy is by these cooperations. So nothing new from what we all felt , but now we got it on paper. Surly one of the problems with this is, that those who pay us so we can get food, are also those who are destroying our freedoms and environment. With the protests of late in germany a new term arose in teh media, the "Wutbürger" which is the "angry citizen". Which makes politiciens and media anxious and they villainize them more and more. To be fair, there are elements withi nthe protesters which are ultra right wing fashists and those i would not want to lead jack shit, but most of the peopel who are atm protesting in germany are mostly angry about the social inequalities which had been developed over the past 20 years. The media and politiciancs succeded in spinning the theme in terms of radical idears which need to be defeated and those Wutbürger are now facing other citicizen which are agaisnt radical fashitic ideology which is good in the way we dont get another NAZI regime, but is bad as one of the underlaying problems overall is being demsinsihed and ignored, which is the inequality in our society. One last thing, instituions are not by default good or evil, as with the example of the world bank chomsky brought, it is waht we maek of it. Therefor we can also get involved within the institutions to change things from the inside. Protesting is all good, but doesnt do anything if noone is listening on the inside of the system. We also can be the listeners who then push for policy changes and influence from the inside.

12:00 Berger 50:00 Chomsky Is the man who is tall happy?

Berger describes Google perfectly.

WHERE THA FUK IS EVERYBODY!

Listening to this thru the lens of Covid makes it no less powerful or truthful. It seems even more relevant today.

Great rhetorical denunciations and in many ways the path of least resistance for political discourse, but what is proposed to counter the marxist dissatisfaction with the economic construct?

If you wish to skip the very length introduction go to 11:55

The crying baby around 1:12:00 is somehow quite appropriate...there's not much to be happy about if you're just beginning life in this insane world.

TJ sent me

@jeffmadden5392

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Dixon said

Great show until Chomsky came on and spouted a lot of nonsense about indigenous knowledge. Obviously knows nothing about the cultures he is talking about and just makes up romantic nonsense as he goes along.