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@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ....

@ancienthistorytube1921

2 жыл бұрын

@@NeoSultan 2,5 million subscribers. For sources go to Wikipedia.

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@Agras14 I didn't block you, you're afraid to mention my name because you know I'll finish you off like last time. When you write I want sources on EVERY STATEMENT you tell us. (Be careful, I want you to separate the sources on each subject)

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@Agras14 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

Gotta say I didn't expect this at all. As a Greek , it's an honour kings and generals' team!

@FJVII

2 жыл бұрын

100% unexpected but 1000% happy about it

@deniz05282002

2 жыл бұрын

fun fact channel owner are turkish

@giorgijioshvili9713

2 жыл бұрын

@@deniz05282002 No

@loseyourself5023

2 жыл бұрын

@@giorgijioshvili9713 Some of the owners and workers in kings and general are Turkish and they are also good friends with a Turkish professor called emrah sefa Gürkan they even commented his channel once in turkish

@deniz05282002

2 жыл бұрын

@@giorgijioshvili9713 I saw their Turkish comments in a Turkish history video. They also speak Turkish in a live stream. probably they are azerbaijani

''Greeks don't fight like Heroes, Heroes fight like Greeks'' - Winston Churchill

@mammaTurki

11 ай бұрын

ahahahahahahahahaha

@PhyrexJ

9 ай бұрын

@@mammaTurkiah, the butthurt Turk who still thinks people respect his country

@Lawliet_____

9 ай бұрын

“I avenged Hector” - Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

@Stevo-klo45453

4 ай бұрын

@@mammaTurkigo do a dna test and you’ll see that millions of Greeks got forced to convert to Islam and become Turkish. Theirs at least 30 million Turks that are Greek blooded in Turkey. 70% of Pontians stayed in Turkey, 20% are in modern day Greece today and 10% were murdered by turks from Smyrna. Do your research. Respect Greeks! You might be one! The only way forward is with peace. Greeks know allot of turks are Greek! Turks need to know they are also Greek! Your prime minister of Turkey has Greek pontos blood!

@diego4438

4 ай бұрын

The Spartans are probably one of the best Greek civilizations to ever exist. Furious warriors.

As a Turkish I can tell you that 90% of those names and events mentioned in this video are new to me. In the school, this part of history is usually told in max. of 2 or 3 sentences. Interesting historical facts. Thank you K&G.

@nilssonharrison

2 жыл бұрын

You should go take a DNA test seriousily

@xarisdelig4113

2 жыл бұрын

@@nilssonharrison why?

@loseyourself5023

2 жыл бұрын

@@nilssonharrison bro if dna test tells me I am 50% Greek or Armenian nothing will change I am Turkish and I will claim to be Turkish no matter what but this doesn’t mean I am hating another racial group or people we are people in the end Greece won’t gain anything if I am Greek in fact they may lose something since if it turns out I am Greek , Bulgarian or any other Balkan race since I would apply for their citizenship to get a Eu passport

@nilssonharrison

2 жыл бұрын

@@xarisdelig4113 go on KZread and look up turks taking dna testing. It's prohibited in the country. It's fun to watch them struggle with their identities.

@loseyourself5023

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyukassman7705 you should join a Turkish history lesson then from 1700-1922 we lose most of the battles we participate and we have to learn them since they are asked in university exam.

And something that is not very well known, in the First Greek Constitution was established that "no one in Greek territory is considered or can be sold as slave". The Greek state was one of the very first states of the modern Era, who actually abolished slavery contitutionally, since the very beginning.

@ntonisa6636

2 жыл бұрын

Also guaranteed the freedom of escaped slaves (no return to owners) from neighboring territories from what I remember reading...

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@@ntonisa6636 Indeed. Once in Greek territory no one was considered slave, or being sold, or returned as a slave.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted).

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

The constitution of Epidavros mentioned in 18:11 was, at least on paper, the most liberal in Europe. Among other articles, it banned slavery.

@fevronia_

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and years ago a teacher of mine said it gave women the right to vote.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@arolemaprarath6615

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Albanians are Arabs imported by the Turks during the 15th century that's why Albania is 99% Muslims.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@arolemaprarath6615 Send sources.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@arolemaprarath6615 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

Always a pleasant surprise when K&G deals with historical events and time periods less known and less popular to the average history geek and unfortunately the history of Greece and Greeks beyond the ancient times (i.e. the medieval Roman Empire, the Ottoman rule, the Revolutionary War, the modern nation-state etc.) falls into this category. Good work! A few corrections and trivia: 1) Between 1453 and 1821 various Greek revolts against Ottoman rule broke out but failed, the most notable of them being the Orlov Revolt of 1770, 2) Actually the revolution in the Morea was not declared on the 25th of March 1821 by Bishop Germanos of Old Patras in Agia Lavra. According to some sources the date was indeed preselected by Ypsilantis as the day of general insurrection in Greece proper, in order to coincide with the feast of the Annunciation of Virgin Mary and to invoke the obvious connotations (a message of hope and future salvation). Events unfolded rapidly in mid-March, as Ottoman authorities were becoming more and more suspicious and the revolution could not wait any more. On the 17th the Maniots raised the revolutionary flag and marched on Kalamata, the city was liberated on the 23rd. On the 21st Panagiotis Karatzas raised the banner in Patra, the same day Kalavryta was liberated. Bishop Germanos of course was himself a member of tthe Filiki Etairia and played a role in the outbreak of the Revolution, but the Agia Lavra doxology was rather a romanticized depiction of the events, associated nowadays with conservative, nationalist circles. 3) Alexandros Ypsilantis wasn't just a wealthy Phanariote aristocrat. He was a senior cavalry officer in the Imperial Russian Army. He fought in the Napoleonic Wars, and holding the rank of Lt. Colonel by 1813, he lost his right arm in the Battle of Dresden. He eventually reached the rank of Major General and he had even become aide-de-camp to Emperor Alexander I., 4) Dimitrios Ypsilantis, Alexander's younger brother, had also served in the Russian Army with the rank of captain and despite his class background, he sided with Kolokotronis and the "warlord" faction against the Greek upper class of the time. Yet he tried to play an appeasing role between sides in the civil strife that followed, 5) Omer Vryoni after defeating outnumbered Athanasios Diakos in the Battle of Alamana and taking him captive, offered him his life in exhange for conversion and an officer position in the Ottoman Amry. Diakos refused with the words: "I was born a Greek and i will die a Greek". He was executed by impalement. Besides his heroic stance, his wording in his reply is a prime example of the different terminology in self identification of the Greeks at the time, with three different ethnonyms: "Έλληνας" (Hellene) the official since then, commonly translated in English as Greek, "Γραικός" (Greek), derived form the latin Graeci which in turn derived from the ancient greek tribe of Graikoi and "Ρωμιός" (Romios i.e. Roman). Diakos chose the "Γραικός" form.

@HarryZikosNY

2 жыл бұрын

Καλά λες

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting points! Also, I agree that it's always a delight when kings and generals covers something that not too many people know about, especially when it's about where you're from, as an Indian, I would love if they covered the revolutions of 1857 or any of the other rewards against colonial expansion in India

@tomsmith4542

2 жыл бұрын

σωστα φιλε. all correct

@qx0ni

2 жыл бұрын

I always find it weird that people correct videos, but provide no sources? I mean I have no idea if what you are saying is correct, but without sources, why would I believe your word over others?

@demitasse22

2 жыл бұрын

So how did Όχι Day come to fall in October? Was that just the attempt that stuck?

First Greek uprising against the Ottomans was in 1481 just 28 years after the Fall of Konstantinople. Since that one 123 attempts were made. The 1821 revolution was the 124th.

@FearTheNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this my friend. Very interesting. Do you have any sources. Greetings Brother

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@spi.ro.4164

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. If they were Albanians why they formed a Greek state and not an Albanian ?

@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123

2 жыл бұрын

@@spi.ro.4164 because the universe is afraid of the mighty Albanians

@jaremymallister9004

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. dude do you know how cultural assimilation works? The Arvanites and the Souliotes were hellenized Albanians. And Kolokotronis wasn't an Albanian

Salute to our Greek friends from Bulgaria! Let us continue building a better future for all of us in the Balkans. There have been too many wars and divisions in our small but beautiful part of the world! We deserve better. Congratulations on 200 years of independence!

@geogeo2299

Жыл бұрын

Greetings to Bulgaria from Greece!

@moonandstar85

Жыл бұрын

Turks waching you ladies be careful ;)

@Weedwizard600

Жыл бұрын

@@moonandstar85 disgusting turd

@user-ix2gt9kv9n

11 ай бұрын

we'll take back Constantinopole and establish a united Orthodox state in the Balkan 🇷🇸🤝🇬🇷🤝🇧🇬🤝🇷🇴🤝🇲🇰🤝🇲🇪 ☦️🦅☝️

@Lawliet_____

9 ай бұрын

@@user-ix2gt9kv9n this already has been tried and failed miserably even in the worst of times for the Ottomans (revolts + lesser troops in the process) even tho Great Britain and France were a lot more equipped they eventually backed out and for Russia they got destabilized because of these wars thus having a fallen empire in 1917. The irony of it all is that having older thougths like these have no value anymore because Greece isn't the old Greece so does Iran with Persia. It's important how your doing for the "now" and not the "past". Turkey atm is bigger than all of the Balkans combined in terms of land and population. The Balkans is divided in many etnicities and religions even struggling with their own internal politics. Countries only operate on their own interests not for charity cases like this or it would already have happenned and for your own information Putin the president of Russia kissed the Koran (on occasion), made the biggest Mosque in Europe in Moskou to keep the peace and his people satisfied but since when does a country these days operate on religious grounds?

Finally! We already got Greece during World War II, and now we got their independence. Fun fact: Pedro I of Brazil almost was the first king of independent Greece, in 1821, but he refused.

@ntonisa6636

2 жыл бұрын

First time I hear this factoid but I've read Leopold I of Belgium(which became independent around the same time) was originally intented to become king of Greece though I can't remember the details of why this didn't work out.

@zyanego3170

2 жыл бұрын

@@apmoy70 Imagine a Belgian-Greek Kingdom inside of the Brazillian Empire.

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@zyanego3170 I mean, Brazil is a very diverse place, so I would assume that they would be better at governing two disparate provinces than a homogeneous European state

@theawesomeman9821

2 жыл бұрын

They are both separated by a vast ocean so it makes sense, that Pedro refused

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@theawesomeman9821 yeah lol, that would be an interesting alternate history timeline, I mean, Pedro was absolutely dedicated to Brazil, so there is no way that he would actually do anything that would take his attention off of it, so something tells me that if he accepted for whatever reason, perhaps Because the alternative timeline's Brazil had a lot of Greek speakers/mixed Greek and black people, He would probably only be the titular monarch, a figurehead that everyone could use as a symbol of revolution and development, while an actual Greek government ran the country

Well done Greeks. from Bulgaria

@181ld7

Жыл бұрын

Even though these “Greek” heroes had Arvaníte or Souliote origins, which technically makes them Albanian…

@AimForMyHead81

Жыл бұрын

​@@181ld7 Lol

@katrin715w56w

9 ай бұрын

​@@181ld7and what are greek arvanitophones or greeks from suli ? Also greeks lol

As a Romanian I would love to watch an episode about Tudor Vladimirescu, who also rebelled against the Ottomans but came into conflict with the Etaireia as he wanted the Phanariotes out of Wallachia and Moldavia as well.

@achillesdampas6033

Жыл бұрын

a tragic figuere really... betrayed the rebellion by not aiding the leader Alexandros Ypsilantis, evacuating Bucarest in the process, only to -save- the people of Wallachia from punishment/slaughter in the case of defeat. Some speak of cowardness others speak of him as a turkish agent, some of a patriot who wanted only good for his people... Im not well informed about the guy so KnG ... an apisode about Ypsilantis and the Hegemonies from the eyes of greeks wallachians and turks plz

@jthomas8263

10 ай бұрын

David, 🙂🦁 since, after the Lions were killed off and became Extinct in the Proverbial Titanic Antiquities of Ancient Macedonia and Ancient Greece. 😏 Despite this, 😢😞😥 the Modern Greek Nation was born in the relatively recent 19th Century, forged by revolutionaries who knew only Turkish Domination, and for whom 'Greece' was merely an idea that had to be manifested with blood. This is the Story of the Greek War of Independence, from It's Origins in shady secret societies, to the Years of brutal, harrowing struggle against the Sultan and his Vassals, to the final intervention of the Great Powers, 🥹❤ as Free Hellas becomes First Nation-State in History to achieve full and total Independence from the Ottoman Empire.

As a Turk, i am glad that this subject is finally mentioned. It is great to learn about our neighborhoods modern history and how the Greece was born again. Personally i am glad that the modern Greece is born so we are able to enjoy modernism and enlightment in Aegean. And it is also ignorant to see each other as enemies after all these years. Turks and Greeks are not enemies. We are neighbours and i am happy about it. Dont care what so called “Nationalists” think.

@ntonisa6636

2 жыл бұрын

cheers🍻

@sagaramskp

2 жыл бұрын

Wise words.

@thresh86

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it's more a matter of contemporary governments between nations and how they get along than the people themselves ! I hope they agree (governments) because among us simple folks, we get along just fine ! Merhaba !

@egesahin6015

2 жыл бұрын

@UCbrMk__K1araLVL2ElYDh1Q Ataturks reforms was necessary for Turkey in order to catapult itself from medieval Islamic mindset to modern thought. I dont see any corelation between those reforms and fate of Balkans and Middle East. Can you eloborate further ?

@egesahin6015

2 жыл бұрын

@@thresh86 Yiasoo neigbour !

Greek here and let me just say that the quality of these are so high, that i feel the sincere need to thank all those involved in their creation. We need to know. We need to remember.

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! These guys make videos with an unparalleled level of professionalism and objectivity, As an Indian, I really hope They make videos about the Indian revolt of 1857

@kozakage

2 жыл бұрын

Another Greek bro here with thanks as well

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@georgezachos7322

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. All of them Albanians, right? No Greeks anywhere? Is that what the Albanian department of ultra-nationalism and racism teaches these days? 😏

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgezachos7322 The majority of the Greek independence soldiers were Arvanites/Souliuts (Albanians) by descent. Accept the truth.

I can't wait for all the Albanians in the comments to claim that everyone was Albanian in the GREEK WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. 🤣

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ....

@starman1144

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Don't talk to me about Arvanitic History Albanian. YOU ARE NOT US. We Arvanites are proud of our country Greece and we don't give a shit about your poor country.

@davidscwimer1974

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Albanians are a Mix of Slav and Turk with no ancient heritage!

@nicka.papanikolaou9475

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Arvanites were Greeks, dude, from the ancient city of Arvanon, hence Arvanites. They were not albanians. Learn the damn history correctly!

@zabeliiulet1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not albanian and I already know that Arvanites spoke Albanian

I have been asking so many history KZread channels to do an episode about Greek revolution, but no one even bothers to do so, I can't express my gratitude and happiness for you guys, I can guarantee that all of us Greeks will love the series

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@frank_mk

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Nor the arvanites are albanians neither Kolokotronis , Kountouriotis and most of these names were even arvanties or souliotes. Arvanites/Souliotes were a group of greek origin living in Epirus. The dialect they spoke was a mix of greek albanian and even turkish words, because they were under ottoman yoke for nearly 500 years and logically greek literature had faded at that time. Furthermore, arvanties were called like this because their descendance was said to be from Arvanon, not Albania. In albanian literature "albania" is "shquip" and "albanians" are "shuiptarje", they dont even share a relation by the name. I dont get why you guys try to steal other nation's history, aren't you proud enough of your own People? From ancient heroes like achilles, to modern warlords as Kolokotronis, you claim every historical figure on the planet to be albanian, so in fact who where greeks? Did they existed at all? This is so funny, it s not even logical. So please read some history books and go spread your propaganda somewhere else.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@frank_mk While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@frank_mk The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@frank_mk

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Very convenient for you. I could display a thousand more relevant sources but it's a waste of time. Are you also one of those telling Macedonia isnt greek? I guess we should say Macedonia is Albanian too...

Amazing to see how the Greeks survived and fought since the Bronze Age to exist. Impressive

@davidscwimer1974

Жыл бұрын

@@cuzimmoody6470 well actually no…. Ethnic linguistic and cultural continuity isn’t always a continuum in many cases. Look at the Egyptians of today Their ancient language has been supplanted by Arabic. Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components-name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association-were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia. Anthony D. Smith Nationalism and modernism 1998

@user-Prometheus

Жыл бұрын

We have existed since 3300BCE. The Cycladic Culture.

@Universal..

Жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111

@davidscwimer1974

Жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. nope they where Greeks it says Greek war of independence … I don’t think the Albanians fought for theirs… it was just given to them … they still don’t know what to do with it

@you_and_tirana6056

Жыл бұрын

@@davidscwimer1974 did you know that BBC did a documentary about the famous English poet LORD BYRON and in that documentary the heroes of the "greek" revolution were just arvanites and as a conformation of this fact the documentary begins with the "greeks " speaking and singing in albanian?!!😉😅

The continuity of the Greek people through history can be seen, if someone studies their traditions, their folklore. For example, the most popular read (which did mutliple editions), among the Greek people during the period of the Ottoman occupation was "Alexander's Romance" a fictional account of the life and exploits of Alexander the Great. A common greeting among Greek people during the same period was "Is King Alexander still alive?" And the other Greek would answer "Still alive and reigns". And this only an example, of how the Greeks mantained the connection with their past. The concept of the nation is different from one culture to another. For the western cultures the concept of the nation is more connected to the bloodlines (for this reason the word nation comes from the latin word "natio" which practically means birth), or with the rise of the modernity and with the great revolutions of 18th Century. For the Greek people though, even if there is and was used sometimes the word "Γενος" which corresponds to the latin "nation", we use another word... "Εθνος", which come from the word "ηθος" , "ethos", and which means the customs, the traditions, i.e all the common cultural elements that connect together a group of people (alongside with the religion, the common ancestry etc) and who define, what we Greeks call Εθνος.

@damnyourpasswords

2 жыл бұрын

wow man...

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

That's really interesting! And I have to say it's somewhat similar to the way that a lot of us Indians think of ourselves, We define ourselves by our traditions and customs, no matter how much they evolve there will always be a kernel of The Rig Vedic or Indus valley civilization in them, similar to what you described. As an Indian, I really hope They make videos about the Indian revolt of 1857 or other attempts to get out from under the thumb of European colonialism, based on this vid, I should assume it would be pretty amazing

@thanoschris821

2 жыл бұрын

Super interesting take but you can argue that applies to all nations . Traditions were are one of the links that connect people.all around the world evwn for rellatively new countries like America.

@aryankhan1731

2 жыл бұрын

Adi B : Turko mongol one tribe went to Constantinople and build Ottoman empire and the other tribe went to india and build Mughol empire.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

Ypsilantis had one arm. He had lost his right arm in napoleonic wars .

@chrispapadopoulos3080

2 жыл бұрын

WHAT

@vasileiospapazoglou2362

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrispapadopoulos3080 true he lost it

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@rudywooders9602

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. the father of the wannabe Albanian Kolokotronis ,wiped out all Albanians of Peloponnesus and made pyramid with 7.000 Albanian heads because Albanian gangs were looting Peloponnesus for 10 years . Plapoutas was nickname ,his real name was Koliopoulos. Souliotes were bi-lingual Greeks, fighting Albanians whole their life especially Botsaris and Tzavelas clans had many dead by Albanian Ali-Pasha. Markos Botsaris got killed while raiding at night an Albanian military camp . Kitsos Tzavelas once captured an Albanian warlord and marked him with hot iron the emblem of Phoenix because he insulted him calling him Albanian like him.

@chrispapadopoulos3080

2 жыл бұрын

@@vasileiospapazoglou2362 re vasili the paintings make sense now, I always thought he was tucking his arm in strangely

The first Greek constitution was scandalously liberal and ahead of its time with notions such as religious freedom and equality, and the abolition of slavery. Speaking of constitutions, Kapodistrias, the foreign minister of the Russian Empire, was a diplomatic genius and post-Napoleonic Europe is his brainchild, particularly Switzerland, whose constitution and direct form of democracy was his idea, inspired by the Athenian democracy. He was also probably the head of the Filiki Etairia but pretended to disagree with them so that he wouldn't be compromised.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@issith7340

2 жыл бұрын

And the structure that he created for switzerland, still works perfectly good!

@Vjeimy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. I see Albanian bots never rest. Since you comment the same propaganda everywhere you have received a plethora of answers, therefore I think it's unnecessary for me to engage you in any serious capacity.

@Vjeimy

2 жыл бұрын

@@issith7340 With a few tweaks but yes, it was created to be stable. The constitution of Epidaurus on the other hand was effectively cancelled by the British before they assasinated Kapodistrias. Fortunately it became the basis for the modern Greek constitution, especially after the abolition of the monarchy, thus the promise of 1822 has been fullfilled.

@issith7340

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vjeimy slightly full filed

Really happy to see this video. I’m married to a very proud Greek woman and constantly given history lessons on Greek history and culture. Can show her this.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@yusuf3005

2 жыл бұрын

Dikkat et. Sana kendi tarihini unutturabilir:)

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@BringBacktheGreeks The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@BringBacktheGreeks While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@BringBacktheGreeks New facts about Kolokotronis and Marko Botsaris ethnicity,both of them were Arvanites (Albanian) . The name "Kolokotronis " is translation of his original surname (in Albanian or Arvanite dialect) "Bythguri",. Before surname "Bythguri" alias "Kolokotronis" ,they were named "Çergjini" Source 📜 : Greek Documentary "1821". Teodor Çergjini nicknamed "Bithëguri" (later translated and adopted into Greek by Kolokotroni) was an Albanian Orthodox (Arvanite) from Greece and the most emblematic leader of the Greek-Turkish wars of 1821. He was an Arvanite (Albanian by blood) but influenced by Greek culture and the Greek Orthodox Church (from an Orthodox family) He lived in a typical Arvanite (kleft) warlord lifestyle (caravan thieves), wore traditional Albanian Arvanite clothes. Arvanite traditional clothes = Fustanella = Origins = Fustanella is a traditional and warlike garment for men, worn by the Albanians, LATER by the Greeks and other Balkan nations (Influence). Objects from the Illyrian (🇦🇱) period describing the dress have been found in Slovenia, Korça and in the district of Durrës. In Albania, the fustanella was the official uniform of the royal guard and continues to be used by polyphonic groups, while in Greece, a shortened type of frock coat continues to be used by military ceremonial units such as the Evzones. In Illyria, dresses of the fustanella nature are present since the 5th century BC. Thus in Maribor, Slovenia, an Illyrian (🇦🇱) sculpture with a dress was discovered. Source 📜 : Fig 162 - Burrë me Fustanellë (gur i gjetur në Maribor të Sllovenis shek. V p.e.r) Maxwell : “The foustanela, like the Scottish kilt or Lady Llanover’s Cambrian Costumes, provides ample material for authenticity-fabrication debates, not least because its origins apparently lie in Albania. During the Greek independence war, however, its Greek connotations became so powerful that foreign Philhellenes adopted it to show their sympathy for the Greek cause. Henry Bradfield, a surgeon who served in Greece, observed one English gentleman who tried to make a foustanela from a sheet. Philhellene enthusiasm for the foustanela survived knowledge of its Albanian origins; Philhellene William Whitcombe described the foustanela as a light Albanian kilt” in his 1828 memoirs.” Source 📜 : pp. 170-171 St. Clair 1972, p. 232 📜 : “Gradually, more and more Greeks found ways of getting themselves on the Government’s pay roll. The money was never accounted for in detail. A captain would simply contract to provide a number of armed men and draw pay for that number. Again, the opportunities for embesslement were eagerly seized. Anyone who could muster any pretensions to a military status appreared in Nauplia demanding pay. It was probably at this time that the Albanian dress made its decisive step towards being regarded as the national dress of Greece. The Government party, being largely Albanians themselves, favoured the dress and a version of it was common among the Greek klephts and armatoli. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim to be a soldier and share in the bonanza.” 📜 St. Clair, William (1972). That Greece Might Still be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Skafidas p. 148 📜: “The modern fustanella appears in Greece worn by Albanians, and especially the Arvanites, as Greeks of Albanian ancestry were called, most of whom fought alongside the Greeks against the Turks in the long war of independence.” 📜Skafidas, Michael (2009). “Fabricating Greekness: From Fustanella to the Glossy Page”. In Paulicelli, Eugenia; Clark, Hazel. The Fabric of Cultures: Fashion, Identity, and Globalization. New York and Oxford: Taylor & Francis (Routledge). pp. 145-163. Angelomatis-Tsougarakis 1990, 📜 p. 106: “On the other hand, Albanian dress was daily becoming more fashionable among the other nationalities. The fashion in the Morea was attributed to the influence of Ydra, an old Albanian colony, and to the other Albanian settlements in the Peloponesse. Ydra, however, could not have played a significant part in the development since its inhabitants did not wear the Albanian kilt but the clothes common to other islanders. In the rest of Greece it was the steadily rising power of Ali Pasha that made the Albanians a kind of ruling class to be imitated by others. The fact that the Albanians dress was lighter and more manageable than the dress the Greek upper classes used to wear also helped in spreading the fashion. It was not unusual even for the Turks to have their children dressed in Albanian costume, although it would have been demeaning for them to do so themselves.” Welters, p. 59📜: “According to old travel books, the nineteenth-century traveler could readily identify Greek-Albanian peasants by their dress. The people and their garb, labeled as “Albanian”, were frequently described in contemporary written accounts or depicted in watercolours and engravings. The main components of dress associated with Greek-Albanian… men an outfit with a short full skirt known as the foustanella.”; p. 59-61📜. “Identifying the Greek-Albanian man by his clothing was more difficult after the Greek war of Independence, for the so-called “Albanian costume” became what has been identified as the “true” national dress on the mainland of Greece. In admiration for the heroic deeds of the Independence fighters, many of whom were Arvanites, a fancy version of the foustanella was adopted by diplomats and philihellenes for town wear.”; Welters, Lisa (1995). 📜“Ethnicity in Greek dress”. In Eicher, Joanne. Dress and ethnicity: Change across space and time. Oxford: Berg Publishers. pp. 53-77.

"Brave Greeks. All of us, noble brothers, fell into a dreadful fate. By our co-orthodox neighbors ,all that they promised help, abandoned us. Others with lies called our bloody struggle for religion and existence as crime. Keep your head high brothers. Show that you are worthy of your ancestors.. Nevertheless we saved our honor. Europe acknowledged the sons of Greece! . The help that Russia promised comes too slow for us. The Moscovite tycoons want to know first that the blossom of Greece has fallen before their help arrive, in order to conquer uneducated masses and after the extermination of educated, not to have to handle any spiritual pulse, which they are afraid for our rebirth as future revolutionary material. Lets die without fear starring death into his eyes. Hail to the religion and the freedom of Greece! Death to the barbarians!" --by his revolutionary brochure "there is nothing else I can say, rather to assure you that when the time comes and your decisive order will be given , I promise to obey it till my last drop of blood, without any human made conjuncture making me wimp out"" --by his response to Ypsilantis appointing him the leadership of sacred band "the fighter gains his freedom by fighting or beatifies her by dying"" "Brothers, into this crucial moment, only for a glorious death we should wish for.. Maybe one day homeland will collect our bones and burry them to the classical land of our ancestors" . his quote to co-fighters before he blew up shooting a gunpowder barrel avoiding being captured. - Georgakis Olympios - 1772-1821, Hero of Greek Revolution

@aryankhan1731

2 жыл бұрын

Gunpowder was invented by Chinese.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@killjim1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. hahahaha

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@killjim1 While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@killjim1 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

"God has put his signature under the liberation of Greece and God doesn't take his signature back" - Theodoros Kolokotronis (memoirs).

@pallasathena7372

2 жыл бұрын

How many soldiers does the god command? You give too much credit to your god I only see mortal people who fought for their freedom

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@pallasathena7372

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. vlassic albanians, they have no history and they dream. But their dreams are just jokes for the rest of the world.

@user-xh5pc3wd2m

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. stop taking drugs

@user-xh5pc3wd2m

2 жыл бұрын

@@pallasathena7372 stop taking drugs

Happy Greek Independence Day Greece 🇬🇷

@vanmars5718

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you❤

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@vanmars5718

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Wow....that's so interesting. It might be the first time a nationalist Albanian made a comment like that. My dear, the only thing Albanians do in our times is to go to every video related with Greece, Serbia, Pyramids, Illyria, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Ancient secret history etc... I mean, that's quite pathetic *Normandy in France is a historical area created by the normans (northmen). Many of the people of this area became heroes of France, ministers, writers etc. No Norway, Denmark etc country tried even once to create some kind of nationalistic narrative against France to prove anything..... **all countries have similar stories. Your Albanian heroe for example Skandenbeg wasn't also a clean cut ethnic Albanian no matter what you say. Sooo all that is telling us only one thing. Albania has a looong way to became a mature and serious state.

@davidscwimer1974

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanmars5718 wasn’t George kastriotis a Greek Serbian ?

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted).

I was born a Greek and I will die a Greek Thank you K&G 🇬🇷

@omergur2148

Жыл бұрын

what a surprise :D

@hissirenprincess619

Жыл бұрын

Surprise?

@peterthesneakybastar

Жыл бұрын

I was born American but I am HELLAS!🇬🇷

@blerimalija9128

Жыл бұрын

If you were born as a greek,don't worry then.Worst feeling ever .

@moroccanchristian9793

Жыл бұрын

@@peterthesneakybastar i used to love the shit and bullshit who called turkey from morocco. i have been converted to christianity for almost two years ago and i stand and support christian brothers especially serbia and greece and armenia.

Oh wow, this war is at last being presented in big KZread History channels. Excited to see it in a bit!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikosn.9932 While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikosn.9932 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

Good timing! In 17 March of 1821 (exactly 201 years ago) the Maniots started the Greek War of Independence (the Greek Revolution had already started in 22 February 1821 by Alexandros Ypislantis at Iasi in today's Romania) in Peloponnese from Areopoli at Mani. Their flag had the inscription "Νικη ή Θανατος" i.e Victory or Death (and not the motto "Freedom or Death" of the other Greeks, since Mani remained free during the Ottoman occupation of Greece), and the ancient Spartan motto "Ή ταν ή επι τας", i.e. "with your shield or on it".

@KiNGGAMESgr

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes of course , Maniots the chads of Greece .

@nikosnikos8524

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that was the intention; to release the Greek war of independence videos around 25th of March.

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikosnikos8524 Yes. Alexandros Ypsilantis and the Filiki Eteria had esrablished 25 March 1821 as the date that the Revolution would start.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@KiNGGAMESgr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Kolokotronis was not even an Arvanite , shows how stupid your popaganda is , check his familly's bio . His familly's name as diferend and changed to their kolokotronis , kolokotronis was a nickname . Now how the hell Arvanites are Albanians ????????????? They live along the rest of the Greeks for over a thousand years ( they got mixed ith our locals ) , they were always a fighting for the Byzantine empire and afterwards for the Hellenic Republic , including the war of independence , in the revolts that followed up , in the macedonian strungle , in the balkan wars etc ... Their language is just their tradition , same goes for the Cretans , the Pontics and the Cypriot Greeks . Just because they started their journey from northen hepirus doesn't mean that the people that fought in 1821 were albanian ... I mean if you check your DNA you will most luckily find some Greek roots , but you ain't Greek ecause your great grea great grandfathers were Greeks .

After establishing the Macedonian dynasty, the court and the empire saw Basil I as a new Philip, a trend he took even further by naming his son, the future Emperor Alexander. Alexios Komnenos, in the speech he gave before the synedrion to ask for financial help from the various aristocrats in Constantinople to defend the empire from the Normans and the Turks, he called King Saul as an example who had made use of sacred property to finance his campaigns and Pericles, who according to him, "did not hesitate for a second to use the sacred property of Athens to defend Greece from the Persians and successively save the people and the honor of Hellas, an example that they should honor and fulfill as their patriotic duty." Both in the basilika and in different literary works. The emperor Leo the Wise was compared and praised like a new Lycurgus who watched over the constant flaws in the laws of the empire. Belisarius before the Byzantines was considered a new Brasidas as almost all the popular folk songs and poems of the 6th to 14th century show. Basil II was shown as a new Alexander whose ancestors traced back to Philip of Macedon and Artaxerxes in the Vita Basili, an economium which was dedicated to him, as to all Byzantine emperors, a platonic literary work that used to be dedicated to all Hellenistic kings in the past. Michael Psellos often complained that state officials were not of the quality of Demosthenes or Pericles, but of the quality of rebellious slaves like Spartacus. In a letter of Theodore Laskaris from the NIcaea empire, "after having made it clear that all the dynasties that had ruled Byzantium were native Hellenic, he made it clear that the mantle of power of Rome had been handed over by Constantine I to the Hellenes, in whom wisdom abounded and abounds." Greek identity certainly did not die at any time, it was only in a Roman disguise.

@dragooll2023

2 жыл бұрын

The byzantines looked at the pagans has their forefathers. The revolutionary greeks saw the byzantines has their forefathers.

@tylerellis9097

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this comment but this is cherry picking. You see call backs to Julius, Trajan, Diocletian, Constantine And even the original tribes who founded Rome. Constantine Palaiologos in his final speech calls back to the Carthaginians in their war against the Romans and calls his soldiers the descendants of Greeks and Romans. Basil I himself claimed ancestry to the Ancient Kings of Armenia. There’s also the problem that our sources are from the educated and don’t represent the majority illiterate population

@user-ll9hb3sd8h

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerellis9097 These citations are far from an exception, almost all Byzantine literature is riddled with classical Greek and Hellenistic figures from the past, not to mention the imperial poems and prayers that even mentioned the Hellenistic kings of Pergamon and Macedonia. And yes, we have a wide variety of how common people were involved in this classical literature, the popular poem of Diogenes Akritas, a half-Arab Greek born on the borders of the empire whose main plot centers on the Hellenistic campaigns of Alexander the great and who becomes a new orthodox Hercules fulfilling biblical feats and fighting with mythological creatures like Amazons and centaurs to finally die at the hands of Thanatos, the very own death. And the version of constantine's speech that you gave is a variant of the one that may have been original, in which he does not mention the Carthaginians or the Romans, it only alludes to the size and imposingness of said animals but it does refer to the fact that Constantinople was the hope and delight of all the Hellenes.

@user-ll9hb3sd8h

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfredospautzgranemannjuni5864 A fair comparison! but it was not so blurred, most of the Greek-Hellenic legacy in Italy we owe not to the former colonies but to the Byzantine presence in southern Italy for almost 800 years, in which they populated and built entire cities like Troies, which was populated by 20,000 Greek settlers established there by Basil I to control the "barbaric Latins or Italians"

@tylerellis9097

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ll9hb3sd8h The Poem Of Diogenes was not written by peasants and is clearly a story created by the educated showing an advanced understanding of the Empires affairs . He himself in the story is the son of an Arab Emir and daughter of a Byzantine General, a product of nobility. Yet in this Story the names Romania and Romioi to identify the Greek speaking Byzantines are used. Literate peasants was not an aspect of Byzantine society regardless of its high literacy rate for the time. What is your source on that part of the speech being made up? I won’t deny it’s possible but would like a source. And you didn’t contest me on him saying descendants of Greeks and Romans. Yes and so are references to it’s Latin and Roman past. We agree on its Hellenic culture and identity but you seem to be intentionally ignoring that it was merged and concurrent with the Roman one. Hence the Greco-Roman label often applied to the empire. People like Emperor Ioannes Vatatzes who lived during a time where Constantinople had been lost, the empire reduced to a Greek core and where Latin aggression was at a all time high, were the exception not the norm. We see once Constantinople is taken identifying as Roman is the norm among Nicaean Byzantine authors and Emperors. Indeed as the Empire gained weaker and more influenced we also see an increase in its understanding of the Latin language and culture among its educated with even Constantine and his predecessors being fluent in Latin. Again not indicative of everyone but clear examples of how identity was fluent with each author across the vast period of time the Byzantine empire existed. Btw Basil I extensively used Latin on his Coins and the Latin Forms of Augustus and Imperator on both coins and his letters to the Pope and Louis of Francia so using that quote to define Basil’s actual opinions is pretty dubious. His far more educated Grandson Constantine had no problem using Latin in Ceremony nor using ancient Latin deprived words or ceremonies in court. To clarify, I’m not denying anything Hellenic about the Byzantines. Merely pointing out that you are intentionally pointing out and trying to make standout its Hellenic aspects and ties to the Greek people.

Well done guys. This content and narrative were outstanding. A Turk here. I sincerely loved all Greeks I've met. Hope everybody happen to find such opportunity.

@AimForMyHead81

Жыл бұрын

Always nice to see

At last! The greatest history channel covers this not so well known revolution. Thank you Generals 💯🇬🇷

@itacom2199

2 жыл бұрын

🇮🇹🤝🇬🇷

@osman7240

2 жыл бұрын

Check out sheikh imran hosein Brother and his analysis on Hagia Sophia and Constantinople what's your will be returned to you. Lots of love from A muslim.

@Spy.04

2 жыл бұрын

@@osman7240 respect to you brother ✊

@ZettQF

2 жыл бұрын

Its and Arvanite revolution in greece, started by albanian speaking people in greece, even their names are fully albanian and can only be translated through albanian.

@osman7240

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spy.04 love and respect all we the muslims and the orthodox community has to wait for is the defeat of NATO by Russia. Inshallah.

Most welcome but unexpected since not many people talk about this it's really honoring to mw as a Greek, Thanks to kings and generals for making this!

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! These guys make videos with an unparalleled level of professionalism and objectivity, As an Indian, I really hope They make videos about the Indian revolt of 1857

@EconGun

2 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of respect for Greek history here in Iran. Love from Persia!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Stanley_Ca.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. > Turkish has exerted much influence on the Albanian language, especially in the vocabulary, leaving intact the phonetic system and the structure of Albanian, except of the penetration of some Turkish suffixes. There are about 850 Turkish words used in Albanian. It's the opposite lol 🤣 Stop claiming people of Epirus. Regards from Corfu. .

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stanley_Ca. The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

Thank you kings and generals. You make very important work. Love Greek history (the Greeks are one of the most interesting ethnic groups and they have a big history to tell).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ...

@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. if you have to repeat yourself a million times, what does it mean?

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 Teodor Çergjini nicknamed "Bithëguri" (later translated and adopted into Greek by Kolokotroni) was an Albanian Orthodox (Arvanite) from Greece and the most emblematic leader of the Greek-Turkish wars of 1821. He was an Arvanite (Albanian by blood) but influenced by Greek culture and the Greek Orthodox Church (from an Orthodox family) He lived in a typical Arvanite (kleft) warlord lifestyle (caravan thieves), wore traditional Albanian Arvanite clothes. Arvanite traditional clothes = Fustanella = Origins = Fustanella is a traditional and warlike garment for men, worn by the Albanians, LATER by the Greeks and other Balkan nations (Influence). Objects from the Illyrian (🇦🇱) period describing the dress have been found in Slovenia, Korça and in the district of Durrës. In Albania, the fustanella was the official uniform of the royal guard and continues to be used by polyphonic groups, while in Greece, a shortened type of frock coat continues to be used by military ceremonial units such as the Evzones. In Illyria, dresses of the fustanella nature are present since the 5th century BC. Thus in Maribor, Slovenia, an Illyrian (🇦🇱) sculpture with a dress was discovered. Source 📜 : Fig 162 - Burrë me Fustanellë (gur i gjetur në Maribor të Sllovenis shek. V p.e.r) Maxwell : “The foustanela, like the Scottish kilt or Lady Llanover’s Cambrian Costumes, provides ample material for authenticity-fabrication debates, not least because its origins apparently lie in Albania. During the Greek independence war, however, its Greek connotations became so powerful that foreign Philhellenes adopted it to show their sympathy for the Greek cause. Henry Bradfield, a surgeon who served in Greece, observed one English gentleman who tried to make a foustanela from a sheet. Philhellene enthusiasm for the foustanela survived knowledge of its Albanian origins; Philhellene William Whitcombe described the foustanela as a light Albanian kilt” in his 1828 memoirs.” Source 📜 : pp. 170-171 St. Clair 1972, p. 232 📜 : “Gradually, more and more Greeks found ways of getting themselves on the Government’s pay roll. The money was never accounted for in detail. A captain would simply contract to provide a number of armed men and draw pay for that number. Again, the opportunities for embesslement were eagerly seized. Anyone who could muster any pretensions to a military status appreared in Nauplia demanding pay. It was probably at this time that the Albanian dress made its decisive step towards being regarded as the national dress of Greece. The Government party, being largely Albanians themselves, favoured the dress and a version of it was common among the Greek klephts and armatoli. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim to be a soldier and share in the bonanza.” 📜 St. Clair, William (1972). That Greece Might Still be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Skafidas p. 148 📜: “The modern fustanella appears in Greece worn by Albanians, and especially the Arvanites, as Greeks of Albanian ancestry were called, most of whom fought alongside the Greeks against the Turks in the long war of independence.” 📜Skafidas, Michael (2009). “Fabricating Greekness: From Fustanella to the Glossy Page”. In Paulicelli, Eugenia; Clark, Hazel. The Fabric of Cultures: Fashion, Identity, and Globalization. New York and Oxford: Taylor & Francis (Routledge). pp. 145-163. Angelomatis-Tsougarakis 1990, 📜 p. 106: “On the other hand, Albanian dress was daily becoming more fashionable among the other nationalities. The fashion in the Morea was attributed to the influence of Ydra, an old Albanian colony, and to the other Albanian settlements in the Peloponesse. Ydra, however, could not have played a significant part in the development since its inhabitants did not wear the Albanian kilt but the clothes common to other islanders. In the rest of Greece it was the steadily rising power of Ali Pasha that made the Albanians a kind of ruling class to be imitated by others. The fact that the Albanians dress was lighter and more manageable than the dress the Greek upper classes used to wear also helped in spreading the fashion. It was not unusual even for the Turks to have their children dressed in Albanian costume, although it would have been demeaning for them to do so themselves.” Welters, p. 59📜: “According to old travel books, the nineteenth-century traveler could readily identify Greek-Albanian peasants by their dress. The people and their garb, labeled as “Albanian”, were frequently described in contemporary written accounts or depicted in watercolours and engravings. The main components of dress associated with Greek-Albanian… men an outfit with a short full skirt known as the foustanella.”; p. 59-61📜. “Identifying the Greek-Albanian man by his clothing was more difficult after the Greek war of Independence, for the so-called “Albanian costume” became what has been identified as the “true” national dress on the mainland of Greece. In admiration for the heroic deeds of the Independence fighters, many of whom were Arvanites, a fancy version of the foustanella was adopted by diplomats and philihellenes for town wear.”; Welters, Lisa (1995). 📜“Ethnicity in Greek dress”. In Eicher, Joanne. Dress and ethnicity: Change across space and time. Oxford: Berg Publishers. pp. 53-77.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 First of all I open a parenthesis about the name of Albania or Albanians quoted by Strabo (around 58-21/25) in the 1st century BC and Claudius Ptolemy (around 100 - 170 AD) in the 2nd century AD. It derives from the name of an Illyrian tribe, the Albanoi, which was located around the city of Albanopolis (now Zgërdhesh located in the region of Krujë). Moreover, even today, a region of Albania, from the north of Tirana (between the rivers Mat and Erzen), is called Albëni (gheg dialect) or Arbëri (tosk dialect). But this name Albanoi with its various variants (Arbanites, Arvanites, Arvanitis, Arvanos, Arban, Arbani, Arbanon, Arnavuts, Arnauts, Arbëri, Arbër, Arbëni, Arbën, Albën, Albanois, or Albanians) really began to spread when the Albanian territories became a field of hostility and a buffer zone between Byzantines and the new Slavic invaders (Serbs, Croats etc.. ...) towards the beginning of the seventh century AD. Several writers of the eleventh century, including Michel Attaliate and Jean Skyltzes, have recounted this kind of confrontation and widely spoken of these Albanian mountain tribes. It is the Angevin chancelleries (Charles I of Anjou, brother of St Louis, proclaimed himself king of Albania in 1272) which, in the 13th century, conveyed the name of Albanian or Albanians, which spread rapidly, like wildfire, throughout Europe. It should be noted that the Albanians never use this name (Albanian) to designate their own ethnic group: they call themselves Shqiptar, that is to say son or child of the eagle. Source 📜 : Albanie: histoire du Moyen Age au XXe s, P.54, Mathieu AREF (Histoire et langue) ou l'incroyable Odyssée d'un peuple préhellénique.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

Loving this series! Watch one of your videos before bed every night and it's shocking how much it increases your historical knowledge. 20 minutes a night as a habit and over a year or so you pick up quite a lot of information

The revival of independent and sovereign Greek state after centuries of Ottoman rule is a historic moment indeed

@nenenindonu

2 жыл бұрын

Its close to 18 centuries if we add the Roman occupation which preceded the Ottoman rule

@Dimisyf

2 жыл бұрын

@@nenenindonu byzantine empire was greek? well they were at least orthodox if you still consider them roman

@nenenindonu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dimisyf Ofc do I "consider" them as Roman and not Greek most of the Byzantine rulers werent even of Hellenic origin hence rulers called neither the state nor themselves Greek

@cvanvslivs2406

2 жыл бұрын

@@nenenindonu The Byzantines/Eastern Romans were 100% Greeks. Therefore, the foreign occupation was only the Turks, which last for about 4 centuries.

@Dimisyf

2 жыл бұрын

@@nenenindonu I mean at the area the Byzantine empire existed there were most ethnic Greeks rather Romans, thus Orthodoxy wasnt what romans had as a religion. Perhaps the rulers werent greek, but the people were mostly greek and the religion was orthodox christianity at that time.

Greek rebels using fire ships against the Turks. Ghosts of the Byzantines: I'm so proud of you. *lone tear slides down cheek.*

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@grekos58

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. you didn't go to school when you was a kid? 😂

@Irene-iu9sj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. μήπως οι αρβανίτης ευηβραν και "το υγρόν πυρ,"by the way???????ΜΠΟΥΡΛΟΤΟ!!!!!!!!!!!

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

@kostakis5084

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Spread Historical Revisionism somewhere else.

Thank you for covering this topic. Modern Greek history does not get the attention it deserves.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

Thank you for a well researched and objective view of this important era of Greek history. I also commend your excellent pronunciation of the personalities. I thoroughly enjoy your insights into the many areas of history you present.

This is brilliant. I am going to the Island of Kos in may. Went to Corfu a few years ago and saw the memorial to Serbians who fed there in world war one.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@kapoioskapoiou8631

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. and the earth is flat right? 😂

@Irene-iu9sj

2 жыл бұрын

If you can, go to Messolongi, there is the " Heroes park:,you'll see tombs,statues and memorials ,for many heroes,and also many nations who fought and died for the freedom of Greece.....

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

Excellent topic! So glad greek revolution gets more coverage! Nice work as always!

@eltarlantezos

2 жыл бұрын

Your channel made an excellent job on covering the most crucial battles of the revolution.

@HistoriaGraecia

2 жыл бұрын

@@eltarlantezos Hey thanks man, your words mean a lot to us, we will try to keep them coming, no matter the delays :)

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ...

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

Thank you, although there are several omissions and inaccuracies that make lose elements of the historical sequence. 1) By the end of the Byzantine empire, "Roman", "Greek" and "Hellene" had become interchangeable. In his last speech Constantine Palaiologos, uses "Hellenes", while his imperial seal had "king of Romans" on it. The famous greek painter Theotokopoulos, preferred to sign as "El Greco" (16th century). Athanasios Diakos, referred to himself as "Grecos". The oath of the Filiki Etairia, used "Ellinas". Others preferred Romios, which is still used in modern greek. It doesn't matter, they were fighting for "Ellada" and the intended capital was Constantinople. That the revolution didn't manage to capture it, is another story. The term to be used in the modern greek state became a matter of dispute amongst greek intellectuals exactly because there were 3 "synonyms". At the end, Ellin was chosen for reasons too long to write here, but even today, we still self-identify ourselves both as "Romii" and "Graikoi". 2) There were 2 cultural centers. Constantinople ("I Megali tou Genous Sholi" - The great School of the Genos, something like "race", from which the english word "gene" derives) and the venetian-or on what would become Italy territories. See Flanginian school in Venice", Church of "St George of the Greeks" in Venice, "St Paul and Peter of the Greeks in Naples", Cyprus where local Greeks sent volunteers for the greek revolution, etc. Hence, the notion that the "nation" was "born" in 1821, is false. The country was formed in 1821, for a nation that had no fatherland. In fact, there were about 120 minor revolts since 1453, but were easily crushed because local, unorganized and without weapons and money. The most known occured during venetian-turkish wars (during Andrea Doria, Morosini expeditions) and the Orlov revolt, because each time the revolutionaries were hoping that the foreigners would arm the Greeks. But the foreigners minded their own business and the revolts were easily crushed. 3) Gennadios was a Patriarch, not the bishop of Patras. That one was Germanos. 4) The Patriarch of Constantinople was considered by the Ottomans as "responsible" for keeping peaceful the christians and on his turn, this allowed him to keep religious and administrative priviledges. So he had to keep political balances. Given that the first to be killed where his local flock in Constantinople, he did condemn the revolution (who was though also supporting) and he paid himself as "responsible" by being hanged after the Easter mass, in public. However, the clergy of low and medium rank was overwhelmingly supporting the revolution, with some men of the cloth directly becoming revolutionary leaders (like Papaflessas, bishop Isaias, etc) or funding the revolutionaries. 5) Kolokotronis and Kapodistrias were amongst the "purest" souls of the revolution, unlike some ex local village leaders (tax collectors for the Ottomans), who simply wanted to become the new greek politicians so that they would retain their political power. One should read Kolokotronis' memoirs and his speech to the school children at Pnyka, before making near-ironic remarks about him. 6) Speaking of Kolokotronis, his father Konstantine, was a revolutionary leader in the Orlov revolt and killed and cut to pieces by the Turks-Albanians. His son, Theodoros took his father place as kleftis and as he wrote "about 10 generations of his family were fighting the Turks". When he captured Tripoli, he gave the order to uproot the tree from which the Turks were hanging men of his family going back generations. So to say, "banditry" isn't an accurate depiction. Kleft at the time, had the meaning of "outlaw", not just "bandit". And their preferred targets were Ottomans and the "proestoi", the "village leaders" appointed by the Ottomans, who were also acting as tax collectors on behalf of the Ottomans. 7) The Armatoloi, soon became near-friends with the kleftes and also a source of weapons. Which is also why Armatoloi and kleftes were n't really trying hard to kill each other , but rather role playing to gain their living and at the revolution they united under the same banner.

@athosgr4231

2 жыл бұрын

Another big omission, is Rigas Ferraios, who was a precursor intellectual of the revolution and actually dreamed of a revolution of all the Balkans against the Ottomans. He wrote the "Thourios", that exists also as song in youtube. The Austrians arrested him in Trieste and handed him over to the Ottomans, who tortured him and threw his body in the Danube river.

@Stoss_

2 жыл бұрын

no

@dominicguye8058

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stoss_ What an articulate refutation. /s

@nickinvietnam1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominicguye8058 what do you expect him to say? Dude echoes greek propaganda taught in school, so… NO

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

Some interesting facts that I think they are worth to be mentioned. 1)It was the British ambassador in Morea (Peloponnese) that snitched the revolution that was about to happen, to Turks. 2)At the congress of Laibach 1821, just after the revolution, Austrian, Russia and Prussia were about to intervene with military help in order to drown the Greek revolution. The one who gave his life and made everything in possible to stop this, was a diplomat of Russia Kapodistrias, a Greek in origin, that risked his position and later became prime Minister of Greece. However, all the empires condemned the revolution on the final resolution. 3) Even at the battle of Navarino that happened 6 years later, Austrian empire helped ottomans with 8 ships. 4) Again at the battle of Navarino, both Egyptian and French ships were full of Greek sailors and greek officials. On the Egyptians were the Greeks that were sold as slaves on the trade slave in Macedonia, as an act of revenge for the successful revolution in Morea. The Greek revolution is considered the first succesfull in Europe that lead to the formation of the oldest nation-state as we know it today in europe and second in the world after USA. Nothing was given to Greeks for free, they read the geopolitical reality (meternich system), the thirst of France after Napoleonic wars and took advantage of them, establishing a new reality attracting other great powers. Was the reason that ottoman empire was named after that "sick man of Europe" and also what lead to the crush of the empire. Inspiring all the other ethnicites of ottoman empire and lead to the further rise of nationalism in Europe.

@damnyourpasswords

2 жыл бұрын

wow!

@CalebKallimanis-le4zz

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t defend America bruh the history here is fucking disgusting this country was founded on “Christians” who wrote their own scriptures to fit their ideals that betrayed and lied every single time they made an deal with the native Americans to the god damn point they have almost have completely whipped an entire race of people from one of the largest contents on the planet. And with this ignorance they have baffled and muffed the the face of what Christianity is to a joke because you have people here that are born into families that don’t know where their from, don’t care, not educated, and ignorant and racist because everyone here has been raised into a Colorism corporation society. And with this you have people that don’t give a shit to educate themselves about history they think just because I’m born here this is we’re I’m from so I’m entitled to live here. (White and black) that you have fucking Native American living in boxes in basically barren or poorly habitable areas with no basic necessities and it’s sick

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Also, I am really not surprised that the person who snitched about the revolution was representative of colonial Britain

@thesoundinyourhead1782

2 жыл бұрын

@John Rock the Dutch revolt resulted in Dutch empire, It was not a nation state. Also its not my words but Historian's Mark Mazower.

@thesoundinyourhead1782

2 жыл бұрын

@John Rock constitutionally is not the same and didn't have any relationship with today's nation states, just because it is named republic doesn't mean anything , Rome was republic too.

as a turk its very interesting to watch, the greeks have rightfully fought for their self governance. i wish the issues and feuds of centuries ago wouldnt matter anymore

@NostalgosTouRockNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

If we all wish it together and educate the future generations about respect and dialogue they will not matter in the future 🙂

@FearTheNorth

2 жыл бұрын

Respect my friend

@MrArgy333

2 жыл бұрын

And as a greek I need to point out that in order to achieve that, we do have to acknowledge the attrocities that were committed by both sides. For example, we must not forget the massacre of the Greek popultion of the island of Chios, but at the same time we must not overlook the massacre of the muslim population of Tripolitsa that took place during the first year of the war and which even the years of oppression and anger could hardly "excuse". Of course, not a single country would gladly acknowledge these kind of events, but we must not forget if we really want to move towards a peaceful future.

@NostalgosTouRockNRoll

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyukassman7705 we will be waiting at Thermopylae 🥳

@ArchonShon

2 жыл бұрын

@@NostalgosTouRockNRoll And My Axe!

07:53...Very proud of my family

Huge love to my greek brothers from albania 🇦🇱❤🇬🇷

@AlexMkd1984

Жыл бұрын

fake albanian love fake greek nice, 😂

@KostisP83

Жыл бұрын

Greeks and Albanians united again! Flm vllaqko

@user-zh1ct8xe9l

Жыл бұрын

@@virtuallifter2438 What you mean "helped".We didnt bring them here to fight for us.They lived here next to us,we were one body,cooperated,organized and rebelled together since we inhabited the same places and matter of fact they felt Greeks too.The descendants of those Arvanites are Greeks that you fight here in KZread there literally no distinction between Greeks and Arvanites

@georgiosdaldakis8314

Жыл бұрын

@@virtuallifter2438 Read first the real History and than you can talk.

@georgiosdaldakis8314

Жыл бұрын

@@virtuallifter2438 Your head is full with propaganda against Greece,try to think first and than we can talk again.

Kings & Generals channel is epic. I love how accurate and unbiased this channel is. As a Turk ; I wish Happy 200 years of Greek Independence to Greek people. No one have the right to enslave others and all people have the god given birth right to self determination. Keep it coming K&G ; especially Ottoman History please.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@someonethatlikesyou7713

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. bruh if you think all of this stuff is true then you have autism in huge level

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@someonethatlikesyou7713 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@someonethatlikesyou7713 While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@someonethatlikesyou7713New facts about Kolokotronis and Marko Botsaris ethnicity,both of them were Arvanites (Albanian) . The name "Kolokotronis " is translation of his original surname (in Albanian or Arvanite dialect) "Bythguri",. Before surname "Bythguri" alias "Kolokotronis" ,they were named "Çergjini" Source 📜 : Greek Documentary "1821". Teodor Çergjini nicknamed "Bithëguri" (later translated and adopted into Greek by Kolokotroni) was an Albanian Orthodox (Arvanite) from Greece and the most emblematic leader of the Greek-Turkish wars of 1821. He was an Arvanite (Albanian by blood) but influenced by Greek culture and the Greek Orthodox Church (from an Orthodox family) He lived in a typical Arvanite (kleft) warlord lifestyle (caravan thieves), wore traditional Albanian Arvanite clothes. Arvanite traditional clothes = Fustanella = Origins = Fustanella is a traditional and warlike garment for men, worn by the Albanians, LATER by the Greeks and other Balkan nations (Influence). Objects from the Illyrian (🇦🇱) period describing the dress have been found in Slovenia, Korça and in the district of Durrës. In Albania, the fustanella was the official uniform of the royal guard and continues to be used by polyphonic groups, while in Greece, a shortened type of frock coat continues to be used by military ceremonial units such as the Evzones. In Illyria, dresses of the fustanella nature are present since the 5th century BC. Thus in Maribor, Slovenia, an Illyrian (🇦🇱) sculpture with a dress was discovered. Source 📜 : Fig 162 - Burrë me Fustanellë (gur i gjetur në Maribor të Sllovenis shek. V p.e.r) Maxwell : “The foustanela, like the Scottish kilt or Lady Llanover’s Cambrian Costumes, provides ample material for authenticity-fabrication debates, not least because its origins apparently lie in Albania. During the Greek independence war, however, its Greek connotations became so powerful that foreign Philhellenes adopted it to show their sympathy for the Greek cause. Henry Bradfield, a surgeon who served in Greece, observed one English gentleman who tried to make a foustanela from a sheet. Philhellene enthusiasm for the foustanela survived knowledge of its Albanian origins; Philhellene William Whitcombe described the foustanela as a light Albanian kilt” in his 1828 memoirs.” Source 📜 : pp. 170-171 St. Clair 1972, p. 232 📜 : “Gradually, more and more Greeks found ways of getting themselves on the Government’s pay roll. The money was never accounted for in detail. A captain would simply contract to provide a number of armed men and draw pay for that number. Again, the opportunities for embesslement were eagerly seized. Anyone who could muster any pretensions to a military status appreared in Nauplia demanding pay. It was probably at this time that the Albanian dress made its decisive step towards being regarded as the national dress of Greece. The Government party, being largely Albanians themselves, favoured the dress and a version of it was common among the Greek klephts and armatoli. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim to be a soldier and share in the bonanza.” 📜 St. Clair, William (1972). That Greece Might Still be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Skafidas p. 148 📜: “The modern fustanella appears in Greece worn by Albanians, and especially the Arvanites, as Greeks of Albanian ancestry were called, most of whom fought alongside the Greeks against the Turks in the long war of independence.” 📜Skafidas, Michael (2009). “Fabricating Greekness: From Fustanella to the Glossy Page”. In Paulicelli, Eugenia; Clark, Hazel. The Fabric of Cultures: Fashion, Identity, and Globalization. New York and Oxford: Taylor & Francis (Routledge). pp. 145-163. Angelomatis-Tsougarakis 1990, 📜 p. 106: “On the other hand, Albanian dress was daily becoming more fashionable among the other nationalities. The fashion in the Morea was attributed to the influence of Ydra, an old Albanian colony, and to the other Albanian settlements in the Peloponesse. Ydra, however, could not have played a significant part in the development since its inhabitants did not wear the Albanian kilt but the clothes common to other islanders. In the rest of Greece it was the steadily rising power of Ali Pasha that made the Albanians a kind of ruling class to be imitated by others. The fact that the Albanians dress was lighter and more manageable than the dress the Greek upper classes used to wear also helped in spreading the fashion. It was not unusual even for the Turks to have their children dressed in Albanian costume, although it would have been demeaning for them to do so themselves.” Welters, p. 59📜: “According to old travel books, the nineteenth-century traveler could readily identify Greek-Albanian peasants by their dress. The people and their garb, labeled as “Albanian”, were frequently described in contemporary written accounts or depicted in watercolours and engravings. The main components of dress associated with Greek-Albanian… men an outfit with a short full skirt known as the foustanella.”; p. 59-61📜. “Identifying the Greek-Albanian man by his clothing was more difficult after the Greek war of Independence, for the so-called “Albanian costume” became what has been identified as the “true” national dress on the mainland of Greece. In admiration for the heroic deeds of the Independence fighters, many of whom were Arvanites, a fancy version of the foustanella was adopted by diplomats and philihellenes for town wear.”; Welters, Lisa (1995). 📜“Ethnicity in Greek dress”. In Eicher, Joanne. Dress and ethnicity: Change across space and time. Oxford: Berg Publishers. pp. 53-77.

King and Generals IS the best historical content channel. Your work is just perfect!

A history channel at last, made a video about one of the most important revolutions in modern history...Good job K&G!

I’ve been waiting for a video like this for so long, and just in time for the 25th of March! Thank you Kings and Generals.

Thanks for covering this. So proud that this underappreciated revolution was covered.

Finally!!! I believe that was a video many people were waiting for. Once again great success!!!

Hes probably texting another girl Me: Greek war of Independence : How it started

Great video as always. I love this era and never knew much about the Greek war of Independence. Looking forward to the next ones!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

Important to note that the "klepht" is the root word for thief/robber. (Comes down to us in kleptomania, in English.)

I'm a very simple man. When I see a new upload from Kings and Generals, I just like it.

Kings and Generals. The History channel we all want to be!

K&G never ceases to amaze. As a Greek, I truly as not expecting this and am happily surprised to see the history of modern Greece be introduced. Everyone is somewhat familiar with the history of Greece of antiquity, from the age of Homer to, Themistocles and Leonidas, to Philip II and Alexander the Great. Yet the modern nation is oftentimes neglected. Well done lads.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@kapoioskapoiou8631

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. lol

@adolphbismark4331

2 жыл бұрын

First of all Ancient Macedonians were not hellenic originally but Illyro Thracians whose political elite adopted ancient greek as lingua franca. No one knows the language of the common ancient Macedonian people. Secondly today's modern Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient ones and most of the people who fought in the war of 1821 were Albanians.

@kapoioskapoiou8631

2 жыл бұрын

@@adolphbismark4331 you are right because 2000 years ago Greece was nuked and every single ancient greek died

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@kapoioskapoiou8631 First of all I open a parenthesis about the name of Albania or Albanians quoted by Strabo (around 58-21/25) in the 1st century BC and Claudius Ptolemy (around 100 - 170 AD) in the 2nd century AD. It derives from the name of an Illyrian tribe, the Albanoi, which was located around the city of Albanopolis (now Zgërdhesh located in the region of Krujë). Moreover, even today, a region of Albania, from the north of Tirana (between the rivers Mat and Erzen), is called Albëni (gheg dialect) or Arbëri (tosk dialect). But this name Albanoi with its various variants (Arbanites, Arvanites, Arvanitis, Arvanos, Arban, Arbani, Arbanon, Arnavuts, Arnauts, Arbëri, Arbër, Arbëni, Arbën, Albën, Albanois, or Albanians) really began to spread when the Albanian territories became a field of hostility and a buffer zone between Byzantines and the new Slavic invaders (Serbs, Croats etc.. ...) towards the beginning of the seventh century AD. Several writers of the eleventh century, including Michel Attaliate and Jean Skyltzes, have recounted this kind of confrontation and widely spoken of these Albanian mountain tribes. It is the Angevin chancelleries (Charles I of Anjou, brother of St Louis, proclaimed himself king of Albania in 1272) which, in the 13th century, conveyed the name of Albanian or Albanians, which spread rapidly, like wildfire, throughout Europe. It should be noted that the Albanians never use this name (Albanian) to designate their own ethnic group: they call themselves Shqiptar, that is to say son or child of the eagle. Source 📜 : Albanie: histoire du Moyen Age au XXe s, P.54, Mathieu AREF (Histoire et langue) ou l'incroyable Odyssée d'un peuple préhellénique.

Why is Greek Revolution or Greek War of Independence not in India's History Books ? 🇮🇳🤝🏼🇬🇷 Indo-Greek Ties Since Ancient Pre-Christian Past !

From the Ancient Greeks to the Byzantines to the Modern Greeks today.

Very happy to see this video, and cannot wait for the rest of the series. Having said that, it would have been great to hear (at least) a mention of the female hero of the Greek War of Independence, Laskarina Bouboulina, the first woman in world naval history to hold the title of Admiral.

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

Many were the Greek women who partecipated in the battles of the War of Independence. Laskarina Bouboulina who was a rich ship owner from the island of Spetses and who with her ship "Agamemnon" partecipated and lead the siege of the fortresses of Monemvasia and Nafplio. Domna Visvizi from Thrace, who with her ship Kalomoira fought the Ottoman navy in Eubea. Manto Maurogenous who defeated the Algerian pirates, allies of the Ottomans in Mykonos. And of course the women from Mani who defeated the Egyptian troops of Ibrahim Pasha in the Battle of Diro in 1826, armed only with farm tools, becoming one of the rare cases in History, in which, regular troops have been defeated by women armed only with simple tools.

@torikeqi8710

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention that she was Albanian, like 80% of the heroes of the " greek revolution "

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@@torikeqi8710 An "Albanian" that named her own ship "Agamemnon", the name of King of Myceane, during the war of Troy ? Don't think show...

@chrisiak5720

2 жыл бұрын

@@torikeqi8710 we are one people bro

@rmhnn8980

2 жыл бұрын

@@torikeqi8710 So I searched for this supposed Albanian heritage Bouboulina had and, big surprise, no academic nor peer-reviewed site could confirm this. Your comment and many more in this comment section is why I hate nationalisms.

I know a bit of the history of the modern Greek state and was hoping it would be well covered. I am not disappointed! Great job Kings and Generals!

I’ve been waiting for this thank you Kings and Generals

Kolokotronis's family was fighting against the Ottoman rule for 300 years before the War of Independence, almost afterawards the occupation of Morea by the Ottomans. One generation after the other, the Kolokotronis's family were in perpetual war with the Ottomans. One cousin of Theodoros Kolokotronis, fought at the side of Alexandros Ypsilantis in Moldavia, and after the failure of the uprsing with few men, he crossed all the Balkans (like Xenophon's Ten Thousands in Asia), and succeded to return at Morea, and partecipated in the battles there.

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@Vard X Kolokotronis actually liberated us from the Albanians.

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@Vard X Albanians built the pyramids in Egypt. Albanians built Rome. Albanians built Empire State Building. Every war on this Earth is about Albanians fighting each other...

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@Vard X You go bstter read Kolokotronis autobiography, if you know a single greek word, and you see tha he clearly says that he is not Arvanitis.

@FearTheNorth

2 жыл бұрын

@Vard X great source wikipedia hahahaha. Whats wrong with you albo-fascists?

@pseudomonas03

2 жыл бұрын

@Vard X "The ancient Greeks are our ancestors". Theodoros Kolokotronis. How much more clear Kolokotronis must say it?

The Maniots were the heart of the independence war! The only land in Greece that stayed always independent and not even Ibrahim Pasha managed to take it later on 1826 when all Greece fell to him. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series episodes, i hope they will be accurate because there is so much controversy over this time of history in Greece! The battles that came on were absolutely amazing also, with so much strategic geniuses, i hope you make them!

@m.michael9998

2 жыл бұрын

Petros Mavromichalis is my grandmother’s grandfather

@utubrGaming

2 жыл бұрын

If the Maniots were technically never subjugated by the Ottomans, and still followed Roman Law... Does that mean that an independent Roman political entity lives on, with a direct lineage going back to the Achaean War, only renamed the Kingdom/Republic of Greece? Therefore, Greece is not the Heir of Rome... It IS Rome. ROMA INVICTA!

@oreoresti6265

2 жыл бұрын

@@utubrGaming I’m not sure they followed Roman law lmao but I’m here for the revisionism ROMA INVICTA

@billmcraven666

2 жыл бұрын

Maniots were Spartans after all…

@modernathenians3842

2 жыл бұрын

@Fratello Do not forget us in Sfakia, Crete. Neither a foot of Turk steeped on this land, nor even the Venetians. The remote area of Leuka Oroi (White mountains) was, is and will be remain the same, forever and ever. To those question whether we are the true successors of Rome, a huge discussion must be conducted, that simply cannot be done via replying written comments.

Maybe one of your best series so far, at least the intro really looks well researched and got me going !

I was shocked when I saw that you were making a video (and series) and this topic, as a Greek I'm really proud ! And despite some inaccuracies and lacks in information (which are all normal for foreigners, don't worry), the video was fantastic. I'm waiting for more !

@kostakis5084

2 жыл бұрын

@John Wim Woah that's a quick reply lol. Anyways, it's nothing too important, but for example, Athanasios Diakos' battle which precceeded his impalement was quite legendary. He and his forces were outnumbered by a lot, yet they fought valiantly and inflicted heavy losses on the Turks, it was reported that his forces retreated yet he stayed and fought alone, with his sword eventually breaking, subsequently he was shortly captured. The rest was covered by Kings and Generals. It also doesn't say about the minor revolts which happened far before the Revolution and other small stuff which while they aren't that important, are pretty relevant.

@theodorospadelidis5428

Жыл бұрын

@@kostakis5084 i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

Much respect from the hellenic island of Cyprus.

@FearTheNorth

2 жыл бұрын

ENOCIC or death. Greetings Brother 🇬🇷🇨🇾🇬🇷🇨🇾

@marcusaurelius3465

2 жыл бұрын

@@FearTheNorth hello from Turkish Republic of Northern cyprus.🇹🇷

@FearTheNorth

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcusaurelius3465 hello clown 🤡

@marcusaurelius3465

2 жыл бұрын

@@FearTheNorth hello yunanistan

Long live Kings and Generals, a channel that aims in history and objectivity. An extremely difficult combination. The professionalism you guys possess, produce every time an amazing result! Keep up providing us such quality videos!

@MegaGun2000

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! These guys make videos with an unparalleled level of professionalism and objectivity, As an Indian, I really hope They make videos about the Indian revolt of 1857

@Germ_f

2 жыл бұрын

The editing is the highest quality out there

@torikeqi8710

2 жыл бұрын

" High Proffesionaliam " of course by barley mentioning the endless Albanian contributions in the war of 1821 and that half of the population of Greece in 1831 was Albanian. Almost all the paintings of those klephts and Armatolis with long white skirts are Albanians.or Arvanites for example. Marko Bocari, Bubulina, Kundurioti, Andurioti, Kollokotroni, etc were all Albanians. The uprising of 1821 was a Christian uprising against Ottoman Empire with many nations participating in it. The other big mistake is when he refers to Phanariotes as exclusively greek when in fact they were multi ethnic. The most famous phanariote rulers in Walachia and Moldova were the Gjika family who were Albanians for example. Many phanariotes were of slavic, vlach and Armenian origins. The ones who spoke greek, were not " ancient greeks" but mostly cosmopolitan remains of the greek speaking Eastern Roman officials.

@johnemery6944

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better, thank you.

@bangxeloz

2 жыл бұрын

@@torikeqi8710 Kolokotronis wasn't "Albanian". Stop your nonsense. There were lots of Arvanitic contribution, right. Kolokotronis, Diakos, Karaiskakis and many more were not. They were ethnic greeks.

Love catching little editing misses, y’all kill the whole video gotta let a mess up or two in, keep up the great work, my daughter is gonna love listening to this for years to come

As a greek i am impressed by how good your pronounciation of the greek names is. Very good job as always. Can't wait for part 2.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@jaremymallister9004

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. lol, are you okay? In how many threads have you copy-pasted this comment? Btw, for your information, posting your "research" in over too many comments can be considered as a sign of weakness. Like, you don't even believe your theory and you are not spamming it just to convince other people for it; you want to convince yourself as well. So, stop spamming and write a damn book about your research. End of story

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaremymallister9004 First of all I open a parenthesis about the name of Albania or Albanians quoted by Strabo (around 58-21/25) in the 1st century BC and Claudius Ptolemy (around 100 - 170 AD) in the 2nd century AD. It derives from the name of an Illyrian tribe, the Albanoi, which was located around the city of Albanopolis (now Zgërdhesh located in the region of Krujë). Moreover, even today, a region of Albania, from the north of Tirana (between the rivers Mat and Erzen), is called Albëni (gheg dialect) or Arbëri (tosk dialect). But this name Albanoi with its various variants (Arbanites, Arvanites, Arvanitis, Arvanos, Arban, Arbani, Arbanon, Arnavuts, Arnauts, Arbëri, Arbër, Arbëni, Arbën, Albën, Albanois, or Albanians) really began to spread when the Albanian territories became a field of hostility and a buffer zone between Byzantines and the new Slavic invaders (Serbs, Croats etc.. ...) towards the beginning of the seventh century AD. Several writers of the eleventh century, including Michel Attaliate and Jean Skyltzes, have recounted this kind of confrontation and widely spoken of these Albanian mountain tribes. It is the Angevin chancelleries (Charles I of Anjou, brother of St Louis, proclaimed himself king of Albania in 1272) which, in the 13th century, conveyed the name of Albanian or Albanians, which spread rapidly, like wildfire, throughout Europe. It should be noted that the Albanians never use this name (Albanian) to designate their own ethnic group: they call themselves Shqiptar, that is to say son or child of the eagle. Source 📜 : Albanie: histoire du Moyen Age au XXe s, P.54, Mathieu AREF (Histoire et langue) ou l'incroyable Odyssée d'un peuple préhellénique.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaremymallister9004 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaremymallister9004 While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

Happy to finally have a moment to watch this series! I have a great love Greek History and their Early Modern Period is just as fascinating as their Bronze Age Tales. Beautiful stuff K&G! Thanks for keeping us educated on our history!

you are really an incredible history channel! As a greek i confirm your excellent and to the point coverage of the first year of war. thank you! Only the location of Ali Pasha needs correction. His capital was in Ioannina in Westnorthern Greece

@barkallon

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! The territory of Ali Pasha was around Ioannina and Epirus region, not in modern day Bosnia as it looks like in video. :)

@barkallon

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaif7327 what is colloquially? I don't know this word! 😢

@DarthPhaethon

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaif7327 They do

@spyrosaggelopoulos4832

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaif7327 Ioannina is the formal type

@MrArgy333

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaif7327 The proper name of the town is Ioannina, but the most people informaly call it Yannena. We do the same for the christian name of Ioannis (John), which we turn into Yannis/Yiannis/Giannis in most informal occasions. So, the proper name of Giannis Antetokoumbo is actually Ioannis and not Giannis which is the informal form. Same goes for his brother Kostas of who the proper full name is Konstantinos (the name of the Roman Emperor Constantine who founded the city of Instabul - former Constantinoupolis).

Looking forward to catching this whole series! It's been a while since I read up on the Greek War of Independence, but it's a very interesting topic that I can't wait to dive back into!

Best KZread channel making series of videos for Greek war of independence!

god i love greece videos of kings and generals

I’ve been hoping this topic would be discussed eventually. Absolutely love this channel!!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted).

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

Amazing, hope this is a high priority in the channel this is awesome content

Visually awesome and historical accurate content as usual from K&G. Waiting for the next one!

@archiedemir4168

Жыл бұрын

William St Clair in his book written in 1972, refers extensively to the faith of Turks in the 1821 rebellion. He states that the Turks who constituted the considerable population of Greece in 1821 disappeared totally and suddenly in the spring of 1821 and that the rest of the world ignored their disappearance. When criticizing this pretend ignorance, he explains his sadness and states that the Turks "were killed deliberately, without qualm or scruple, and there were no regrets either then or later. In his book, William St Clair did not hesitate to openly describe the torture of Turks with frightening detail. Here is the his sentences.. I read his books and it was so disturbing. Not only Turks... Albanians, Pomaks, Jews were killed... Same happened in Crete(Girit).

As a Greek Australian thank you for making this video as Greek history is not taught in-depth like this in aus

@barackobama8869

2 жыл бұрын

Do u eat yogurt mixed with Vegemite?

@eroseros47

2 жыл бұрын

Turks never invaded india. That was mongols not turks

@pyrusheliosmk2204

2 жыл бұрын

@@eroseros47 that's not true. The Delhi Sultanate was Turkic and the Mughal Empire was half Turkic, half Mongolian.

@u21838

2 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama8869 Vegemite on baklava

@kasadam85

Жыл бұрын

@@utkarshtrivedi8870 cope lmao

Excellent presentation. I am currently writing a historiographical paper for a grad school class on the role of Ghazis and Holy War in the early development of the Ottoman polity (“Wittek Ghazi Thesis” as the starting point). I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. Liked and subscribed.

Nice. Lesser known history events are my favourite. Especially if this includes resistance and revolutions against oppression! Thank you K&G!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted).

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

@kmystak

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. uhm , I think you got confused somewhere...

@archiedemir4168

Жыл бұрын

Greeks committed one of the biggest genocide against Turks. Most of people don't even know about it. Mora genocide was worst.

Very excited about this new series! 😄

Thanks for showing the world more unknown staff about history, i fell like revolutions like this should be talked more about

Thank you! This is such a passionate topic

I know so little about this particular War for Independence. So thanks a bunch for starting this series. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

@torcaace

2 жыл бұрын

you're in for a treat. It's memeworthy at some times, tragic at others.

@brokenbridge6316

2 жыл бұрын

@@torcaace---Thanks for telling me

Great video guys! The power of the Ottoman Ayans is a topic that usually gets passed over when talking about the Fall of the Ottoman Empire. Glad you guys covered them.

@ali95ah

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know why I read that as "Ottoman Aryans" I was like "what? ".

@Nomadicenjoyerplus

2 жыл бұрын

@@ali95ah lmao

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@cartesian_doubt6230 New facts about Kolokotronis and Marko Botsaris ethnicity,both of them were Arvanites (Albanian) . The name "Kolokotronis " is translation of his original surname (in Albanian or Arvanite dialect) "Bythguri",. Before surname "Bythguri" alias "Kolokotronis" ,they were named "Çergjini" Source 📜 : Greek Documentary "1821". Teodor Çergjini nicknamed "Bithëguri" (later translated and adopted into Greek by Kolokotroni) was an Albanian Orthodox (Arvanite) from Greece and the most emblematic leader of the Greek-Turkish wars of 1821. He was an Arvanite (Albanian by blood) but influenced by Greek culture and the Greek Orthodox Church (from an Orthodox family) He lived in a typical Arvanite (kleft) warlord lifestyle (caravan thieves), wore traditional Albanian Arvanite clothes. Arvanite traditional clothes = Fustanella = Origins = Fustanella is a traditional and warlike garment for men, worn by the Albanians, LATER by the Greeks and other Balkan nations (Influence). Objects from the Illyrian (🇦🇱) period describing the dress have been found in Slovenia, Korça and in the district of Durrës. In Albania, the fustanella was the official uniform of the royal guard and continues to be used by polyphonic groups, while in Greece, a shortened type of frock coat continues to be used by military ceremonial units such as the Evzones. In Illyria, dresses of the fustanella nature are present since the 5th century BC. Thus in Maribor, Slovenia, an Illyrian (🇦🇱) sculpture with a dress was discovered. Source 📜 : Fig 162 - Burrë me Fustanellë (gur i gjetur në Maribor të Sllovenis shek. V p.e.r) Maxwell : “The foustanela, like the Scottish kilt or Lady Llanover’s Cambrian Costumes, provides ample material for authenticity-fabrication debates, not least because its origins apparently lie in Albania. During the Greek independence war, however, its Greek connotations became so powerful that foreign Philhellenes adopted it to show their sympathy for the Greek cause. Henry Bradfield, a surgeon who served in Greece, observed one English gentleman who tried to make a foustanela from a sheet. Philhellene enthusiasm for the foustanela survived knowledge of its Albanian origins; Philhellene William Whitcombe described the foustanela as a light Albanian kilt” in his 1828 memoirs.” Source 📜 : pp. 170-171 St. Clair 1972, p. 232 📜 : “Gradually, more and more Greeks found ways of getting themselves on the Government’s pay roll. The money was never accounted for in detail. A captain would simply contract to provide a number of armed men and draw pay for that number. Again, the opportunities for embesslement were eagerly seized. Anyone who could muster any pretensions to a military status appreared in Nauplia demanding pay. It was probably at this time that the Albanian dress made its decisive step towards being regarded as the national dress of Greece. The Government party, being largely Albanians themselves, favoured the dress and a version of it was common among the Greek klephts and armatoli. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim to be a soldier and share in the bonanza.” 📜 St. Clair, William (1972). That Greece Might Still be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Skafidas p. 148 📜: “The modern fustanella appears in Greece worn by Albanians, and especially the Arvanites, as Greeks of Albanian ancestry were called, most of whom fought alongside the Greeks against the Turks in the long war of independence.” 📜Skafidas, Michael (2009). “Fabricating Greekness: From Fustanella to the Glossy Page”. In Paulicelli, Eugenia; Clark, Hazel. The Fabric of Cultures: Fashion, Identity, and Globalization. New York and Oxford: Taylor & Francis (Routledge). pp. 145-163. Angelomatis-Tsougarakis 1990, 📜 p. 106: “On the other hand, Albanian dress was daily becoming more fashionable among the other nationalities. The fashion in the Morea was attributed to the influence of Ydra, an old Albanian colony, and to the other Albanian settlements in the Peloponesse. Ydra, however, could not have played a significant part in the development since its inhabitants did not wear the Albanian kilt but the clothes common to other islanders. In the rest of Greece it was the steadily rising power of Ali Pasha that made the Albanians a kind of ruling class to be imitated by others. The fact that the Albanians dress was lighter and more manageable than the dress the Greek upper classes used to wear also helped in spreading the fashion. It was not unusual even for the Turks to have their children dressed in Albanian costume, although it would have been demeaning for them to do so themselves.” Welters, p. 59📜: “According to old travel books, the nineteenth-century traveler could readily identify Greek-Albanian peasants by their dress. The people and their garb, labeled as “Albanian”, were frequently described in contemporary written accounts or depicted in watercolours and engravings. The main components of dress associated with Greek-Albanian… men an outfit with a short full skirt known as the foustanella.”; p. 59-61📜. “Identifying the Greek-Albanian man by his clothing was more difficult after the Greek war of Independence, for the so-called “Albanian costume” became what has been identified as the “true” national dress on the mainland of Greece. In admiration for the heroic deeds of the Independence fighters, many of whom were Arvanites, a fancy version of the foustanella was adopted by diplomats and philihellenes for town wear.”; Welters, Lisa (1995). 📜“Ethnicity in Greek dress”. In Eicher, Joanne. Dress and ethnicity: Change across space and time. Oxford: Berg Publishers. pp. 53-77.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@cartesian_doubt6230 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

Great and very informative video! Can't wait gor the next episode. Some info on Patriarch Gregory. He was forced to excommunicate the leaders of the greek revolution, but in secret he retracted the edict. He, alongside other metropolitans, was tortured as an example before hanged in the middle hate of the Patriachate and his body was thrown on the Bosporus after three days hanging. Since then this gate remains sealed and you can only enter throught the side doors. His body now rests in the Metropolis of Athens and was canonised by the orthodox church.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 ..

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 (i am not linking his username because he blocked me and when i go to reply to him the system doesn't accept my comment) Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

I wanted to watch Greek War of independence from so long thanks it was informative

Aye you coming with it King Preciate the efforts!

Something smart and profound and funny

@trinoyliniray1336

2 жыл бұрын

"Whoever kills an innocent human being,it shall be as if he has killed all mankind,and whoever saves the life of one,it shall be as if he has saved the life of the whole mankind." Quran-Chapter -5(Verse--32) .Quran tells to kill and fight only with those non-muslims who try to kill muslims first and try to capture the land of muslims..And if possible they should be forgiven according to Quran..Ask a real islamic scholar about all ur confusions...And read a definite and authentic biography of prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)....Then u will find the solution of Ukraine--Russia War..

@APersonOnYouTubeX

2 жыл бұрын

Self praise? Edit: nvm that’s ‘friends’

@ahmedalfaraj8218

2 жыл бұрын

King and generals could you please make a video about the qramita senescence this topic isn't famous and in my opinion is one of the most surprising and amazing topics that people would want to watch or read about.

@AmanKumarPadhy

2 жыл бұрын

I mean most muslims dont like ISIS. Its like how extreme christian (LDS or certain mormon sects) sects are also not likes by christians

@benerdick_cumberbiatch

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment was posted 11 hours ago, the video was posted less than an hour ago KZread is being weird again

The Greek revolution was the starting point of a revolutionary domino among the Christian narions of the Balkans that brought the downfall of the Ottomans. A little less than a century later the Ottoman empire was no more, and that changed European and Middle Eastern history for ever. Moreover, the Greek War of Independence dismantled the first European Community, the Holy Alliance. It is so sad that such a crucial event for European history is almost unknown to most Europeans. Thank you for this excellent video.

@mihail6446

2 жыл бұрын

Where the Greeks even considered Europeans during that time? I don't think so.

@sarantissporidis391

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihail6446 Where exactly did l say that the Greeks ever condidered that? Outside of the fact that they immediately asked the European states for help that was rejected of course.

@figarooobarberofseville8623

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihail6446 On scale of 1-10 how stoopid are u? 🤔

@sarantissporidis391

2 жыл бұрын

@@microwaveenthusiast7410 Yes it was at a constant state of decline, yet all revolutionary movements prior to the Greek revolution had failed. That was the first act of rebellion that was a successful one, and it led to a series of uprisings throughout the 19th century.

Well done. Nice to see little known corners of history covered. Thank you.

Its amazing at 6:00 i had to stop and applaud how the greeks began to unify and rally around who they intuitively felt and honorable knew could represent the Greek revolution in identity and carry it to the conclusions of preparations for revolt, inspiring how quick they unified islands wide

As a Greek-American I am so happy this was made!

Maniots have always been the first among the Greek people in the uprisings of the Greeks against the Ottomans. For example the first Greek uprsing was in 1479, few years after the Fall of Constantinople and organized by Krokodeilos Kladas (who belonged to a family of Byzantine military officers under the command of the Paleologus royal family, rulers of Mystra), who lead the Maniots in a rebellion against Mehmet II. Later in 1769 the important Greek uprising, orchestrated by the Orlov brothers, sent by Catherine the Great, also started by the Maniots.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@GeoBBB123

2 жыл бұрын

@@Universal.. Kolokotronis was not an Arvanite. In any event, apart from a common language origin, the Arvanites have nothing to with the Albanians.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoBBB123 New facts about Kolokotronis and Marko Botsaris ethnicity,both of them were Arvanites (Albanian) . The name "Kolokotronis " is translation of his original surname (in Albanian or Arvanite dialect) "Bythguri",. Before surname "Bythguri" alias "Kolokotronis" ,they were named "Çergjini" Source 📜 : Greek Documentary "1821". Teodor Çergjini nicknamed "Bithëguri" (later translated and adopted into Greek by Kolokotroni) was an Albanian Orthodox (Arvanite) from Greece and the most emblematic leader of the Greek-Turkish wars of 1821. He was an Arvanite (Albanian by blood) but influenced by Greek culture and the Greek Orthodox Church (from an Orthodox family) He lived in a typical Arvanite (kleft) warlord lifestyle (caravan thieves), wore traditional Albanian Arvanite clothes. Arvanite traditional clothes = Fustanella = Origins = Fustanella is a traditional and warlike garment for men, worn by the Albanians, LATER by the Greeks and other Balkan nations (Influence). Objects from the Illyrian (🇦🇱) period describing the dress have been found in Slovenia, Korça and in the district of Durrës. In Albania, the fustanella was the official uniform of the royal guard and continues to be used by polyphonic groups, while in Greece, a shortened type of frock coat continues to be used by military ceremonial units such as the Evzones. In Illyria, dresses of the fustanella nature are present since the 5th century BC. Thus in Maribor, Slovenia, an Illyrian (🇦🇱) sculpture with a dress was discovered. Source 📜 : Fig 162 - Burrë me Fustanellë (gur i gjetur në Maribor të Sllovenis shek. V p.e.r) Maxwell : “The foustanela, like the Scottish kilt or Lady Llanover’s Cambrian Costumes, provides ample material for authenticity-fabrication debates, not least because its origins apparently lie in Albania. During the Greek independence war, however, its Greek connotations became so powerful that foreign Philhellenes adopted it to show their sympathy for the Greek cause. Henry Bradfield, a surgeon who served in Greece, observed one English gentleman who tried to make a foustanela from a sheet. Philhellene enthusiasm for the foustanela survived knowledge of its Albanian origins; Philhellene William Whitcombe described the foustanela as a light Albanian kilt” in his 1828 memoirs.” Source 📜 : pp. 170-171 St. Clair 1972, p. 232 📜 : “Gradually, more and more Greeks found ways of getting themselves on the Government’s pay roll. The money was never accounted for in detail. A captain would simply contract to provide a number of armed men and draw pay for that number. Again, the opportunities for embesslement were eagerly seized. Anyone who could muster any pretensions to a military status appreared in Nauplia demanding pay. It was probably at this time that the Albanian dress made its decisive step towards being regarded as the national dress of Greece. The Government party, being largely Albanians themselves, favoured the dress and a version of it was common among the Greek klephts and armatoli. Now it seemed that anyone who donned an Albanian dress could claim to be a soldier and share in the bonanza.” 📜 St. Clair, William (1972). That Greece Might Still be Free: The Philhellenes in the War of Independence. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Skafidas p. 148 📜: “The modern fustanella appears in Greece worn by Albanians, and especially the Arvanites, as Greeks of Albanian ancestry were called, most of whom fought alongside the Greeks against the Turks in the long war of independence.” 📜Skafidas, Michael (2009). “Fabricating Greekness: From Fustanella to the Glossy Page”. In Paulicelli, Eugenia; Clark, Hazel. The Fabric of Cultures: Fashion, Identity, and Globalization. New York and Oxford: Taylor & Francis (Routledge). pp. 145-163. Angelomatis-Tsougarakis 1990, 📜 p. 106: “On the other hand, Albanian dress was daily becoming more fashionable among the other nationalities. The fashion in the Morea was attributed to the influence of Ydra, an old Albanian colony, and to the other Albanian settlements in the Peloponesse. Ydra, however, could not have played a significant part in the development since its inhabitants did not wear the Albanian kilt but the clothes common to other islanders. In the rest of Greece it was the steadily rising power of Ali Pasha that made the Albanians a kind of ruling class to be imitated by others. The fact that the Albanians dress was lighter and more manageable than the dress the Greek upper classes used to wear also helped in spreading the fashion. It was not unusual even for the Turks to have their children dressed in Albanian costume, although it would have been demeaning for them to do so themselves.” Welters, p. 59📜: “According to old travel books, the nineteenth-century traveler could readily identify Greek-Albanian peasants by their dress. The people and their garb, labeled as “Albanian”, were frequently described in contemporary written accounts or depicted in watercolours and engravings. The main components of dress associated with Greek-Albanian… men an outfit with a short full skirt known as the foustanella.”; p. 59-61📜. “Identifying the Greek-Albanian man by his clothing was more difficult after the Greek war of Independence, for the so-called “Albanian costume” became what has been identified as the “true” national dress on the mainland of Greece. In admiration for the heroic deeds of the Independence fighters, many of whom were Arvanites, a fancy version of the foustanella was adopted by diplomats and philihellenes for town wear.”; Welters, Lisa (1995). 📜“Ethnicity in Greek dress”. In Eicher, Joanne. Dress and ethnicity: Change across space and time. Oxford: Berg Publishers. pp. 53-77.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoBBB123 The Souliotes were an Eastern Orthodox community of the area of Souli, in Epirus. they spoke the Souliotic dialect of Albanian besides Greek, because of their Albanian 🇦🇱 origins. Source 📜 : NGL Hammond: Epirus: the Geography, the Ancient Remains, the History and Topography of Epirus and Adjacent Areas. Clarendon P., 1967, p. 24 Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopecek: Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945): The Formation of National Movements. Central European University Press, 2006, S. 173. “The Souliotes were Albanian by origin and Orthodox by faith”.

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoBBB123 While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the desire of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks led to the rejection of language identification with Albanian as well... Source📜: a b GHM 1995 ...In recent times, Arvanites had only very vague notions of how their language was or was not related to Albanian. Source📜: Breu (1985: 424) and Tsitsipis (1983) Since Arvanitika is almost exclusively a spoken language, Arvanites also have no practical affiliation with the standard Albanian language used in Albania, as they do not use this form in writing or in the media. The question of linguistic proximity or distance between Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with the local Arvanite communities. Source📜: Botsi (2003), Athanassopoulou (2005). Since the 1980s, there have been organized efforts to preserve the cultural and linguistic heritage of the Arvanites. The largest organization promoting Arvanitika is the "Arvanitik League of Greece" (Αρβανίτικος σύλλογος Ελλάδος). Source📜: Arvanitik League of Greece Arvanite culture Fara Fara (Greek: φάρα, from Albanian fara "seed" source: Χριστοφορήδης, Κων. ΛΕΞΙΚΟΝ ΤΗΣ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΓΛΩΣΣΗΣ , p. 456. ) is a pattern of descent similar to the clans to the Malësia tribes of northern Albania. The Arvanites were organized into lighthouses (φάρες) mainly during the rule of the Ottoman Empire. The apical ancestor was a warlord and the lighthouse was named after him. In an Arvanite village, each pharaoh was responsible for keeping genealogical records (see also civil registration offices), which are preserved to this day as historical documents in local libraries. There was usually more than one pharaoh in an Arvanite village and sometimes they were organized in phratries which had conflicts of interest. These phratries did not last long, because each pharaoh leader wanted to be the leader of the phratry and did not want to be ruled by another. Source📜: See Biris (1960) and Kollias (1983).

I love when you guys talk about the lesser known conflicts of history.

I learned absolutely nothing about this in my 30 years on this planet this is great

OH MY GOD!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COVERING THIS TOPIC. As a Greek it brings me so much joy to see our modern history covered by such a big history channel.

@itacom2199

2 жыл бұрын

🇮🇹🤝🇬🇷

@Berkanmasd

2 жыл бұрын

@Roman Emperor Lucius Domitus Aurelianus lol

The Maniots actually celebrate the start of the war on March 17 (compared to March 25 for the rest of Greece). Great timing, thanks for another amazing video!

@Universal..

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the greatest heroes of Greek independence against the Ottoman Empire, were Arvanites/Souliotes (Albanians). The most famous of them were (they have Greek names because they assimilated): ⚔🇦🇱🦅= - ⚔Theodoros Kolokotrónis - ⚔ Markos Botzaris - ⚔Kítsos Tzavélas - ⚔Dimitrios Plapoutas - ⚔Georgios Kountouriotis - ⚔Laskarina Bouboulina - ⚔Lazaros Kountouriotis - ⚔Andreas Vokos - ⚔Antonios Kriezis Etc. (the fighters of 1821 were Arvanites/Souliotes) Source📜: Cambridge Liberary collection A HISTORY OF GREECE, volume 6, the greek revolution, part 1 George Finlay : The Albanians p.34 - Colocotroni (Kolokotronis) who was once in our service, and who has since, it will be remembered, made his mark in Greece. He is an Albanian, and as one recognizes it, a kleftis... He and his companions, (seven or eight), desperate Albanians like him, are here pursued by the Turks... Source📜: Selections, My Journal, The Mediterranean, London, Greece.p.111 .

@Agras14

2 жыл бұрын

@𐔟𐔓𐔍𐔠𐔇𐔙𐔛𐔀𐔐 Stop spamming whole comment sections with your outdated and half-truth nationalistic nonsense. I told you in the other video as well, some months ago. The most famous heroes of the *Greek* War of Independence were *Greeks* . Names such as Karaiskakis, Kolokotronis, Papaflessas, Diakos, Nikitaras, Kanaris, Anagnostaras, Mavrogenous, are just a few. And thousands upon thousands of Greek fighters such as Maniots, Agrafiots/Sarakatsani, Sfakians, and Greek Klephts and Armatoloi. In fact, we have the names of all, stored in the National Library of Greece (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). There was a certain committee which was established in 1846, in order to remunerate and compensate the fighters of 1821, and that's how we know of all; literally thousands of names. Theodoros Kolokotronis was Greek; fully Greek to be precise. Instead of digging up baseless sources, you might as well read his memoirs (yes he wrote memoirs) where he identifies as a Greek, and gives a short background of his family as well. In his memoirs we learn that the earliest attested region of the family is Ρουπάκι, at the borders of Arcadia and Messenia, which up until 1670 had the name of Κότσικας, which is a diminutive of Κωνσταντίνος/Constantine. Furthermore, in the Ottoman census of Peloponnese in the 1460s which made an ethnic distinction between Greeks and Albanians, that village is recorded as having a purely Greek population comprised of 21 houses. Furthermore, it is a known fact that Theodoros Kolokotronis couldn't even speak Albanian as a second language; Kolokotronis' secretary, Theodoros Rigopoulos, in his own memoirs mentions the existence of a sister of Theodoros who was abducted as a child by the Turks. When Theodoros Kolokotronis went to Albania as an envoy of the French, he met her there where she lived as the wife of an imam. She and her husband knew her origins. Brother and sister hugged with tears but could not speak because the woman didn't speak Greek, while Kolokotronis didn't speak Albanian. We even have a descendant of his who has tested his Y-DNA (patrilineal DNA), and it shows that he belonged to a rare Greek haplogroup that has been in Greece way more than a 1000 years, meaning way before there was any migration of Albanians to the south, and is even totally absent from all Albanians; namely I-A480. Now, let's touch upon the Souliotes, such as Markos Botsaris and Kitsos Tzavelas. Souliotes were a bilingual community, that had mixed Greek-Albanian origin. There are many sources that support this. Also, regarding their two dialects, Markos Botsaris himself wrote a dictionary. Specifically, Markos wrote the dictionary in 1809 when he was 19 years of age, on the island of Corfu after the request of French Philehellene François Pouqueville. After the dictionary was finished Markos gave it to Pouqueville, whom with his turn donated it to the National Library of Paris, where the original continues to be. According to Pouqueville's notes, Markos Botsaris wrote the dictionary with the help of his father Kitsos Botsaris, his uncle Notis Botsaris and his father-in-law Christakis Kalogeros. The whole dictionary was written with Greek letters, and it included 1494 Albanian and 1701 Greek entries. Of the Albanian entries, the 528 are loans from Greek, 187 loans from Turkish, 21 loans from Italian and 2 from other languages. What does this indicate to you? First of all that the Souliotes were bilingual in Greek and Albanian, and second, that even their Albanian dialect was almost 1/3 Greek in vocabulary. Furthermore, Titos Yochalas, who studied, analyzed, and published the dictionary in 1980, wrote that even the syntax of the Albanian dialect followed Greek rules. Imagine that. And since we touched on Markos, even the aforementioned Tzavellas left us with a document, namely his personal diary while a captive of Ali Pasha, and is written in Greek also (go search for it because when i include the link my comment gets deleted). Even for real Arvanite-speakers such as Andreas "Miaoulis" Vokos you mentioned above, few know it but his family actually originated from the Greek-speaking town of Fylla in Euboea. Andreas Miaoulis himself writes this in a letter to Kapodistrias, which i can also share. His family arrived at Hydra in 1668, along with a number of other Greek families from throughout the Greek world. Sorry to disappoint you, but both Hydra and Spetses had a very mixed population, even though Arvanitika prevailed as a language because it was established on the two islands from prior of the 17th century, and most immigrants came after 1668.

@katrin715w56w

9 ай бұрын

​@@Universal..greek arvanitophones and greek from suli =pure greeks and nothing to do with turkoalban! The! Dont have nothing with u also they fought against u and until today they hate u ahhaha

YESSSSSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS

The Epitaph of Seikilos was a nice touch at the end.