Great Schism: The Bitter Rivalry Between Greek and Latin Christianity

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In our new animated historical documentary we will talk about the rivalry between the Catholic and Orthodox churches in the Middle Ages and how it shaped the history of Christianity and the whole world leading to the events of the Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople.
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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals4 жыл бұрын

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  • @abhisheknanda9956

    @abhisheknanda9956

    4 жыл бұрын

    Plz do a documentary on either anglo-mysore wars or anglo-maratha wars if not then plz do mughal-maratha war. These things is mostly unknown as many westerner thinks that's British took India from mughals and that Indians jut surrendered.also plz do a video about mysorean rockets and Kohinoor diamond which is in the crown of queen of UK. From ur dedicated but a non-petreon fan from India.

  • @crazyjester993

    @crazyjester993

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey what back ground music did you used in the end of Lepanto video ?

  • @TyrannosaurusRex5027

    @TyrannosaurusRex5027

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Kings and Generals I would apply but I don’t have enough fingers to use photo shop (Although I am good at drawing dinosaurs)

  • @christermi

    @christermi

    4 жыл бұрын

    17:57 It's Ipyrus you're referring to , not Albania .

  • @omarcillo060

    @omarcillo060

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid my skill set is most suited for translation and localization, when you want to do k&g on Spanish, I'd be more than happy to apply 😎

  • @duploman1000
    @duploman10003 жыл бұрын

    Jesus: 'Were... you guys even listening to a word I said?'

  • @NeoMicy

    @NeoMicy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Peoples: Pretty sure he was preaching about babtism by sword.

  • @daraharvey4519

    @daraharvey4519

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @firingallcylinders2949

    @firingallcylinders2949

    3 жыл бұрын

    Martin Luther: I got you fam

  • @rebeccaanderson5626

    @rebeccaanderson5626

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@firingallcylinders2949 NO MARTIAN WAS A SATANIC PRECHER. HE GAVE BIRTH TO PROTESTENT HERESY

  • @firingallcylinders2949

    @firingallcylinders2949

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rebeccaanderson5626 You mean he restored Biblical teaching.

  • @antonteodor6305
    @antonteodor63054 жыл бұрын

    Konstantinos VI: "I hate you mother, and never wish to see you again!" Irene: "Your wish is granted"

  • @haroldbrown893

    @haroldbrown893

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damn

  • @todrkdck9805

    @todrkdck9805

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's sad....😥

  • @patrickotshumbe4201

    @patrickotshumbe4201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Loool

  • @adibzinnurine7917

    @adibzinnurine7917

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Y2kSd4 Crucify Jesus again.

  • @gfilmer7150

    @gfilmer7150

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, that's some Cersei Lannister shit right there.

  • @davidbowie5023
    @davidbowie50238 ай бұрын

    As a Catholic from Ireland, I appreciated it. It helps me to learn about the tragic schism. Wish all brothers and sisters of Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other Christian faith all good health.

  • @jdk67

    @jdk67

    7 ай бұрын

    Wishing you the best as well.

  • @hetalvn

    @hetalvn

    4 ай бұрын

    what about other religions

  • @user-nu1kt7sn7v

    @user-nu1kt7sn7v

    4 ай бұрын

    @@hetalvnNo!!

  • @Genarii

    @Genarii

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@hetalvnThe topic is the tragic schism of Christendom, so involving other faiths would be a bit off topic. Secondly, it is naive to assume that other religions share your values even to the point that you should wish them good health (omitting such a wish is not the same as wishing someone ill health, but I'm not sure you'd want to wish good health upon ISIS -- or even someone like David Miscavige). Lastly, one could also ask "what about non-religious people?" I find it hard to learn about this topic without wondering what a more united Christianity could have done in the face of the centuries long Jihad that conquered so many previously Christian lands. It may or may not have made a huge difference (by our standards) at the time, but what the world might look like now is an interesting thought. Did the world benefit from having various checks on Christian power over the centuries? Or would we have a more just, equal, and liberal North Africa and Middle East today if, say, the Crusades had been a far bigger success? It's a counterfactual, but an interesting one to ponder.

  • @simonegregoire2004

    @simonegregoire2004

    2 ай бұрын

    Amen!

  • @Thepeug
    @Thepeug3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty crazy to realize that the Roman Empire basically lasted all the way until 1452.

  • @firstamendment2887

    @firstamendment2887

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao, no. They are still lasting. They are leading Satanism from the Vatican.

  • @armandoan6328

    @armandoan6328

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@firstamendment2887 protestard at it again 🤡🤡🤡

  • @firstamendment2887

    @firstamendment2887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@armandoan6328 No, there is only one mediator between God and man...and it is Christ. I am a Christian. Get it right. Jesus is my priest. Jesus is my Redeemer. Jesus is my king. The pope, worships Satan, not YHWH.

  • @armandoan6328

    @armandoan6328

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@firstamendment2887 go read some church fathers and u will understand

  • @firstamendment2887

    @firstamendment2887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@armandoan6328 I read from THE church father, and I understands completely. Anyone brainwashed to believe Catholicism is of YHWH, needs forgiveness, for worshipping Satan. I don't pray to Mary, or Peter, or any other HUMAN. Jesus only. These people still had to worship, at the feet of Jesus. Jesus says He is the only way to the Father. I believe Him, not people that use fake power, to abuse little boys.

  • @ls200076
    @ls2000763 жыл бұрын

    Catholics: "May Jesus aid me in battle" Orthodox: "May Jesus aid me in battle" Catholics: "Wait" Orthodox: "Wait"

  • @D_Marrenalv

    @D_Marrenalv

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @lunchingtangpua2415

    @lunchingtangpua2415

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@D_Marrenalv jesus will never help them .they did not even listen to a single word he said .

  • @D_Marrenalv

    @D_Marrenalv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lunchingtangpua2415 Agreed!

  • @muslim_itu_tolol_sekali

    @muslim_itu_tolol_sekali

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WillyIlluminatoz nah JESUS never turn to ISLAM. He use ISLAM as a tool to correct christianity. Is a fact ISLAM can destroy ortodox but cant beat catolic and even can't hold protestant spread

  • @aardappel8450

    @aardappel8450

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WillyIlluminatoz Islam denies the most proven fact about Jesus' life, Him being crucified.

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix4 жыл бұрын

    Latin and Greek Christians: We will always be the greatest rivals, we will never be pissed at any other Christians more than that. Protestant Heretics: Let us introduce ourselves.....

  • @user-xs5te5eb3b

    @user-xs5te5eb3b

    4 жыл бұрын

    4th crusade

  • @suondilut5027

    @suondilut5027

    4 жыл бұрын

    Protestants of protestantism: Call a ambulance.... But not for me

  • @colindebourg3884

    @colindebourg3884

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can always rely on religion to find a reason to kill each other, dumdarsed idiots.

  • @alexandrub8786

    @alexandrub8786

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@colindebourg3884 because we all know the great leap backwards was made by religious people and not atheist commies.

  • @Indytelevision

    @Indytelevision

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@colindebourg3884 aw shut up it's human nature. We could all be athiest and I garuntee you we will be killing each other over some obscure difference

  • @aasemahsan
    @aasemahsan Жыл бұрын

    4:12 Rome & Constantinople stand as the two sole influential churches 5:08 Eastern Roman Empire's control over the papacy in Rome 5:40 Leo III begins Iconoclasm (727 AD) 6:02 Lombards end Eastern Roman Empire's control over Northern Italy (751 AD) 6:25 The Franks enter the fray under Pepin the short & the papal states are established 7:57 Irene rises to power in Constantinople (797 AD) by deposing her son Constantine VI She stops Iconoclasm 8:59 Charlemagne is crowned as Holy Roman Emperor (800 AD) 10:02 Rift between Holy Roman Empire & Eastern Roman Empire 11:51 Church power 12:11 The Photian Controversy (863 AD) 12:53 Difference between religious rituals of the two churches 13:28 Two churches come to blows & *The Great Schism* occurs 15:57 Massacre of Latin population in Constantinople (1182 AD) 17:08 Fourth Crusade

  • @Ibraheem776

    @Ibraheem776

    Жыл бұрын

    Jazakallahu khayran. I’m learning this to tell some Christians that they can’t say Muslims always fight eachother when they did

  • @marksuperkid1253

    @marksuperkid1253

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Ibraheem776 Christians fought each other a lot. How does that make it untrue that Muslims fought/fight each other a lot as well? The one doesn't exclude the other.

  • @alvirarahman574

    @alvirarahman574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marksuperkid1253 we don't have shit show like "Sack of Constantinople" or "Thirty years war" which decimated the population of present day Germany. Muslims have no record of sinking THIS low.

  • @jaimealvarez5666

    @jaimealvarez5666

    Жыл бұрын

    Alvira Rahman sinking this low. Yeah say that again verbally but think about the word Mongolia at the same time. One little man change your whole history only legit empire to come out of the ruin was ottomans and the only real competition they had was a dying Byzantine that was getting out of a plague.

  • @alvirarahman574

    @alvirarahman574

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaimealvarez5666 lol commenting irrelevant crap here won't save you from the shit hole u dug yourself for haha. Name any Sect war inside the realm of Islam that is as bad as "Sack of Constantinople" or "Thirty Years War" you Christians even assassinated your Pope of the other sect and you have the nerve to speak here. What kind of shameless human are you? Either be relevant or shut up.

  • @richardschleenvoigt4374
    @richardschleenvoigt4374 Жыл бұрын

    This is honestly the best overview and breakdown of this historical event I have ever seen. If you are a teacher in an english speaking classroom then use this!

  • @Iron-Bridge
    @Iron-Bridge4 жыл бұрын

    If only the history they taught in school was this well presented.

  • @prismadelsaber6317

    @prismadelsaber6317

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well presented but more accurate than this.

  • @alchemist6819

    @alchemist6819

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@prismadelsaber6317 don't even think lol, sometimes it's too much of a bias in schools than KZread.

  • @95jAlfinse

    @95jAlfinse

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I remember from highschool history class was "Remember class, Prussia wasn't Russia, it was Germany" which isn't even accurate

  • @alchemist6819

    @alchemist6819

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@95jAlfinse same lol my history teacher couldn't differentiate between Prussia and Germany.

  • @georgeabraham5672

    @georgeabraham5672

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. I loved buy my school history teacher was really messed up

  • @peterdiaz3796
    @peterdiaz37964 жыл бұрын

    Roman Catholic Church: you’re hereby excommunicated eastern heretic Orthodox Church: ...no u

  • @jasondaniel918

    @jasondaniel918

    4 жыл бұрын

    Simplistic, but fairly accurate.

  • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    4 жыл бұрын

    The same can be said about the HRE and the Papal States

  • @anonymussicarius8899

    @anonymussicarius8899

    4 жыл бұрын

    A tragicomical fact is, that as pope Leo IX had already died at 19th April, the excommunication enacted by Cardinal Humbert of Sevilla on 19th July 1054 was void, because Leo had only given a blanko excommunication, to be enacted in case the negotiation would fail. But by canonical law not only this document would´ve lost it´s validity with Leo´s death, but also the papal delegation had lost it´s authority, as they weren´t (yet) authorized by the new pope Victor II. But the news of Leo´s death hadn´t reached Constantinopel by the 19th July, and in the aftermath of the reciprocall excommunication all party´s were to proud and stubborn to acknowledge this fact, and get a compromise going.

  • @ravezon

    @ravezon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea...Christians became from love thy neighbors by Jesus to fuck you neighbors by some popes. The popes back in the days making Jesus proud.

  • @chrissonofpear1384

    @chrissonofpear1384

    4 жыл бұрын

    And as for Leo the X...

  • @jonathanherring2113
    @jonathanherring21133 жыл бұрын

    The filioque controversy had less to do with an actual disagreement in how the east and west percieved the spirit of God, and more to do with changing what was at the time already an ancient creed. Essentially the western roman church added a clarification statement to the nicene creed and the eastern roman church was upset that the west was making changes to ancient creeds without the patriarchs permission. Could be wrong but that's what i've heard at least.

  • @delgande

    @delgande

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was all about politics/authority disputes

  • @MotionWatch-ik2vn

    @MotionWatch-ik2vn

    Жыл бұрын

    The Orthodox Church sees it as a false addition that disrupts the previous understanding of the Holy Trinity

  • @georgemarkakis9552

    @georgemarkakis9552

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, the Filioque addition to the Creed is not considered ecumenical since the Western church made the changes unilaterally and without the Eastern church involvement ( by définition non-ecumenical). Thus, the Orthodox stick to the original Nicean Creed without the Filioque which is how the last ecumenical council left it (where it was agreed upon by all).

  • @CatholicChats

    @CatholicChats

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgemarkakis9552 Actually the Orthodox use the amended Nicene Creed which they clarified in 381 at the Council of Constantinople of which no western bishop was present…

  • @hermespsychopompos4615

    @hermespsychopompos4615

    Жыл бұрын

    It's always this. Western heathens always wanted changes as per their wims of the time.

  • @albanian9374
    @albanian93743 жыл бұрын

    Though being Muslim but such division saddens me. I'm from Albania and I can still feel this division where Catholic and Orthodox Albanians have always argued against each other due to their differences and Orthodox Albanians have sometimes been blamed as Serbian/Greek/Macedonian agents though I view them as Albanians. The two churches need to settle their differences.

  • @vasiliskaranos605

    @vasiliskaranos605

    2 жыл бұрын

    By settle differences, I hope you mean the Pope removing the doctrines of Papal supremacy, infallibility, filioque, immaculate conception, purgatory, and penal substitution. Because true faith and objective truth can’t compromise and contradict itself for the sake of resolving differences.

  • @otgunz
    @otgunz4 жыл бұрын

    Again and again I am amazed by the rich art styles and visual representation techniques the antiquity presents us. Thanks to the nameless Roman, Greek, European artists whose art inspired me through the making of this video in terms of mosaics, stained glasses, manuscript illustrations, and icons. For any political or religious reasons art must not be a thing to be banned imho, since it is ridiculous to ban a thing which defines the humankind and it's power comes from core urges. Anyways art finds a way and insists to get out to the great openness of the earth no matter what.

  • @aquilatempestate9527

    @aquilatempestate9527

    4 жыл бұрын

    The slippery slope there is that malicious people can redefine what art is and peddle all sorts of cultural weaponry as "art". All things in balance, especially tolerance.

  • @DoReMi123acb

    @DoReMi123acb

    4 жыл бұрын

    You and Aquila hit it right on the nail. Art must be preserved and never censored but balance between tolerance and openness must be struck.

  • @494949david

    @494949david

    4 жыл бұрын

    that has to be one of the most amazing messeges I ever red on ytb

  • @ramichahin2

    @ramichahin2

    4 жыл бұрын

    don't seek the doctrines of men, worshiping idols, following their own lusts... seek The Truth on your own beloved ones. ask The Most High to lead you in His Ways (I believe this is outside the churches who delight in idols and icons, although I am sure they have many True Believers)

  • @starhawck

    @starhawck

    4 жыл бұрын

    Roman and Greek are European.

  • @theofiloskalos1650
    @theofiloskalos16504 жыл бұрын

    Translation of greek words: Irene= peace(Ειρήνη), Nikephoros=victorious(Νικηφόρος), Hagia Sophia= Holy Wisdom(Αγία Σοφία), schism= gap/tear(σχίσμα), Thessaloniki=victory over the Thessalians(Alexander's sister name), Nicomedia=victory over the Medes(Persians)

  • @dimitrismihalopoulos1469

    @dimitrismihalopoulos1469

    4 жыл бұрын

    Θεσσαλονίκη/Thessaloniki means "victory *at* Thessaly". It was an allied force of Macedonians and Thessalians that fought there against a common enemy. And Nikephoros means "Victory bringer", not just victorious

  • @sarban1653

    @sarban1653

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Medians were Iranians but they were not Persians.

  • @eliaspapanikolaou3563

    @eliaspapanikolaou3563

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sarban1653 yes but the Greek call the Persians ,Medes as later the Germanic s as Celts and later all the westvEuropians as Frank's

  • @eliaspapanikolaou3563

    @eliaspapanikolaou3563

    3 жыл бұрын

    And later they use to call the Huns and the slavs Scuthian s .

  • @champosvezast.v.4355

    @champosvezast.v.4355

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dimitrismihalopoulos1469 yes, Nikiforos means the bringer of victory, literally "the one who carries the win"... But I am not sure about Thessaloniki if it was about "a victory over the Thesalians" or "a victory of the Thessalians"... The two words are Thessalon and Niki and in any case was a Makedonian victory, but can't remember, if it was the first its obvious, it's because Makedones win the Thessalous (Brothers kill Brothers) or if it is the second it must be due to a win that was given to the Macedonians due to their allied Thessalians allies... (Thessalians was back and forth being enemies and aliens of Makedonian all the time until Alexander unified all Greece)

  • @saintandrew245
    @saintandrew2453 жыл бұрын

    i am an orthodox christian i love all humans and christians around the world ❤️☦️

  • @mrsullied

    @mrsullied

    2 жыл бұрын

    Humans AND Christians 😂😂 😘

  • @kalebloshbough1551

    @kalebloshbough1551

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im just aworthless sinner depending on my King Jesus we were never supposed to put labels on it for we are all one in Jesus

  • @ciupenhauer

    @ciupenhauer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was born orthodox and fuck that church, most idol obsessed, conservative and superstitious crap

  • @Expatsunleashed

    @Expatsunleashed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kalebloshbough1551 Jesus was as worthless as you think you are. Probably more.

  • @hellwithit

    @hellwithit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lier!

  • @MrEngleson
    @MrEngleson2 жыл бұрын

    Very concise explanation, good job capturing the concept highlighting the important events. Glad that this channel addressed this topic. This could be a good high school history class lecture. Thank you!

  • @cnhnx
    @cnhnx4 жыл бұрын

    Constantine VI: I hate you Mom Irene: Off with your eyes, son

  • @Lemsch

    @Lemsch

    4 жыл бұрын

    Our parents when they told us what punishment was like in their childhood.

  • @m00njaguar

    @m00njaguar

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Byzantines had a law that a blind man could not be emperor, so many claimants to the Byzantine throne were ritually blinded over the centuries in power struggles, sometimes with golden tools made especially for removing eyeballs

  • @theStashSmash

    @theStashSmash

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Boris Erdogan Ironically...it was considered a mercy by most people of the times because outright execution was deemed far worse of a sin.

  • @rustemzholdybalin6210

    @rustemzholdybalin6210

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 nah, it was just a way to seed fear, and deffo he took this example from ancient greek mythology

  • @allium2718

    @allium2718

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh shit my mom is named Irene.

  • @MegaAgamon
    @MegaAgamon4 жыл бұрын

    The schism affects us to this day. My Grandma who was half-Greek and half-German was a Catholic due to her Germanic Heritage. My Grandpa who was a Greek was Orthodox. So there was a stupid issue when they were going to marry eachother. Where would they be wed in a Catholic Church or an Orthodox Church? The couple themselves didn't care much but it was an issue with their parents. So they decided to compromise they would marry twice once in an Orthodox ceremony and once in a Catholic one. (AKA Double the cost of a wedding) Since the husband was Orthodox they decided to do the Orthodox one first. Afterward my Grandma went to the Catholic Church in Athens to plan her wedding. Upon learning that the couple were already married in an Orthodox ceremony the bishop excommunicated my Grandma on the spot. She snapped at him telling him that even Jesus didn't excommunicate the ones who put him to the cross and she was getting excommunicated because she married an Orthodox? That stunt although it impressed the bishop it wasn't enough to remove her excommunication. She died in 2014 and the Catholic Church refused to do her funeral we did it on an Orthodox one even though she wasn't an Orthodox Christian. It wasn't because she was already married since wasn't rare for couples of different faiths to marry twice. And even if it was because of the marriage not the Orthodox part the church would simply refuse to marrie them not excommunicate the woman and refuse to do her burial 50+ years later. But the sad part is our own family was split. We are not in good terms with pretty much anyone on my mom's Catholic side. And with those that we are in decent terms we barely speak to eachother at all. Personally, I believe that the Scishim is stupid it tries to use the Will of God to abuse the worshipers. The Lord said after all "Love everyone".

  • @vadimdon

    @vadimdon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Γρηγόρης Αράπης that's sad. And your grandma was right. Jesus didn't excommunicate anyone but the church feels the need to do so, what a joke

  • @MegaAgamon

    @MegaAgamon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vadimdon agreed, thankfully as the church gets seperated more and more from power each year one day we all go back to being a single faith that praises the Lord for his love.

  • @theemirofjaffa2266

    @theemirofjaffa2266

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to say so but your family is so living in the middle ages. Perhaps they need to chill and keep up

  • @MegaAgamon

    @MegaAgamon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@miliba *grandparents

  • @MegaAgamon

    @MegaAgamon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@theemirofjaffa2266 Don't worry most folks are normal XD Also there are some bad relatives on either side.

  • @nicumarinescu34
    @nicumarinescu343 жыл бұрын

    The Patriarchate of Constantinople was not saying it was the head highest power. The Bishop of Constantinople said all bishops are equal the Roman Bishop was the one fighting for power

  • @thediesel3198

    @thediesel3198

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, this video straw mans the entire schism into politics, and makes some straight out false statements. The schism was theological. But we hear none of this in order to undermine Christianity as a sort of "political religion". Jesus apparently started a "new religion" as one example. Complete ignorance imo.

  • @MH-ms1dg
    @MH-ms1dg2 жыл бұрын

    I think this is my favorite video from K&G. It's a very coherent and storied piece that also represents the matured style of this channel.

  • @Conorp77
    @Conorp774 жыл бұрын

    Kings, Generals, and Popes! You seriously need to do a series on Charlamagne!

  • @hazanaimon6458

    @hazanaimon6458

    4 жыл бұрын

    Big daddy of Europe

  • @mobiggcro

    @mobiggcro

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t see it as a happy ending if almost all western and central european conflicts originated from charlemagne dividing his empire between his sons 😅

  • @culturedman1310

    @culturedman1310

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Cancoillotteman

    @Cancoillotteman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@themitri5643 Basks, in the Pyrenees mountain passes killed Rolland, not Serbs...

  • @USERCRETE

    @USERCRETE

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes! the fake "emperor " .

  • @cultusdeus
    @cultusdeus4 жыл бұрын

    "Irene gouged out her son's eyes, becoming the sole ruler." A mother's tender love! (sniff, sniff)

  • @ByzantineCalvinist

    @ByzantineCalvinist

    4 жыл бұрын

    Μάνα μου!

  • @lordlucius1341

    @lordlucius1341

    4 жыл бұрын

    s nah man he didn’t knock when he walked into her room on accident and he gouged his own eyes out

  • @BSKX17

    @BSKX17

    4 жыл бұрын

    she didn't want her son to see the ugly world of politics. she was protecting him

  • @informitas0117

    @informitas0117

    3 жыл бұрын

    " you have your mother's eyes.. no wait, other way around.

  • @EmptyMan000

    @EmptyMan000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BSKX17 Making him a priest was not an option?

  • @j.d.buchanan4897
    @j.d.buchanan48972 жыл бұрын

    Just discovered this channel. Fantastic stuff! I love history and these bite-sized, easy-to-follow videos help me add to my knowledge with practically zero effort.

  • @aloyalcatholic5785
    @aloyalcatholic57852 жыл бұрын

    A fairly well balanced portrayal of the divide between the sides of Christianity. Obviously this is fraught with complex history and theology and I feel like it was well done in relatively brief way.

  • @JustGrowingUp84
    @JustGrowingUp844 жыл бұрын

    "... had conquered the Saxons and the Avars, introducing these pagan people to the faith of the Roman Church." - well, that's a diplomatic way of putting it, lol!

  • @brucecampbell6578

    @brucecampbell6578

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are sentient. All pay tribute to Rome or the legion will be at the door. The battle for rights of Roman tribute between the Greeks and Latins could be called the two thousand year war. Likely the Forth Crusade did not settle the issue completely amicable to the Papacy. The dollar sufficient evidence of our continued Roman indenture.

  • @SAMI-gc1hx

    @SAMI-gc1hx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Forceful conversion is the more appropriate word

  • @ramichahin2

    @ramichahin2

    4 жыл бұрын

    the catholic church murdered all the Christians who didn't follow in it's idolatry and false doctrines... they murdered millions of True Believers as well, not only pagans.... that church is well known for it's murderous ways.

  • @thethirdsicily4802

    @thethirdsicily4802

    4 жыл бұрын

    rami chahin millions? Idolatry? My friend I’m gonna need some numbers because you Protestants haven’t exactly been too nice either, the Kulturkampf of Germany, persecution in England and its colonies, revolutionary France, Salem witch trials, my friend we’ve killed way fewer than millions, you people and your fanatic asceticism is fine, sure, but calling us idolatrous is foolish

  • @brucecampbell6578

    @brucecampbell6578

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ramichahin2 What is a pagan except he who does not subscribe to Roman idolatry? I say anthropomorphism is degenerate spirituality. For that matter, Capitalism is commodification of life or nature or God for personal aggrandizement. Capitalism is usury in fact and the worship of Moloch in practice. Spirit is beyond form or species or sex or time. We may check with our own for the truth of this. The art of man has no life of its own. Nor do his books or languages.

  • @summergram
    @summergram4 жыл бұрын

    Give credit to those who carefully noted everything so that we could learn about it more than 1000 years later for free

  • @otgunz

    @otgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @chum3192

    @chum3192

    2 жыл бұрын

    Proverbs 22:3 "A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, But the simple pass on and are punished." Take heed to this truth, or if you reject it as "conspiracy" or "craziness" you will suffer the consequences. "Popery Puseyism Jesuitism" By Luigi Desanctis Page 140: At what, then, do the Jesuits aim? According to them, they only seek the greater glory of God; but if you examine the facts you will find that they aim at universal dominion alone. They have rendered themselves indispensable to the Pope, who, without them, could not exist, because Catholicism is identified with them. They have rendered themselves indispensable to governors and hold revolutions in their hands; and in this way, either under one name or another, it is they who rule the world, who have reduced it to such perversion of ideas, that he can neither be a good citizen nor a good Catholic who is not a Jesuit. Page 139: He who thinks he knows the Jesuits by having read all the books that were written in the past century to unmask them, would be grossly deceived. The Jesuitism of that day was an open war against the Gospel and society; the Jesuitism of the present day is a slow but contagious and deadly disease, which secretly insinuates itself; it is a poison taken under the name of medicine. "History of the Jesuits: their origin, progress, doctrines, and designs" 1854 By Nicolini, G. B. (Giovanni Battista) Page 39: take the Jesuit for what he ought or appears to be, and you commit the greatest of blunders. Draw the character after what the Jesuit seems to be in London, and you will not recognize your portrait in the Jesuit of Rome. The Jesuit is the man of circumstances. Despotic in Spain, constitutional in England, republican in Paraguay, bigot in Rome, idolater in India, he shall assume and act out in his own person, with admirable flexibility, all those different features by which men are usually to be distinguished from each other. He will accompany the gay woman of the world to the theatre, and will share in the excesses of the debauchee. With solemn countenance, he will take his place by the side of the religious man at church, and he will revel in the tavern with the glutton and the sot. He dresses, in all garbs, speaks all languages, knows all customs, is present everywhere though nowhere recognized-and all this, it should seem (O monstrous blasphemy!), for the greater glory of God Page 82: [Jesuit] Father Francis Pelhco... candidly confesses that " the many illustrious friends of the Society, prelates, orators, learned and distinguished men of every description, the supporters of the Society, remain occult, and obliged to be silent.'' "The Jesuits in History" by Hector MacPherson Page 148: Danger lies in the fact that since the Vatican Council the interests of both are identical. Jesuitism is the power behind the Papal throne. “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist or Protestant,” once remarked Lord Palmerston, “ is likely to breed social disturbance.” So hurtful was the Jesuit Order found to be that, up to 1860, it was expelled no fewer than seventy times from countries which has suffered from its machinations... In spite of Continental warnings, England, in the name of a spurious toleration, has become a Jesuit dumping-ground. Those whom other countries have found from sad experience to be enemies, Britain allows to land on her shores, and to carry on unmolested their work of iniquity. We are carrying toleration to excess, and unless there is a change of policy, this nation will one day pay a heavy penalty. If we wish to escape the penalty, we must come to realize that a system which enslaves the individual, fosters superstition, is at war with patriotism and destroys morality, will, if allowed to flourish unchecked, sooner or later destroy society. "The Jesuits in History" 1914 by Hector MacPherson Page 122: In order to clearness of thought in dealing with this subject, it is well to note the distinction between Roman Catholicism and the Papacy. The former has to do mainly with religion. It rests upon the theological doctrines which Protestants believe to be erroneous. There are Roman Catholics who take their religion but not their politics from the Pope. Had the Roman Catholic Church remained a purely religious organisation like any other sect, the world would have been spared centuries of evil. But in the course of its development the Romish Church, through its Popes, entered the civil sphere and aspired to universal monarchy. "The Vatican Against Europe" 1993 by Edmond Paris Page 308: In the future, as in the past, she (The Catholic Church) will inexorably move towards the end she has set herself, without the slightest thought for the ruins and the catastrophes that her unwearying pursuit might be causing. "The end justifies the means". "No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role. "The Secret History Of The Jesuits" 1975 by Edmond Paris Page 7: The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars-a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict. Page -163-164: But let us see, first, how an especially "authorized" personality, Franco, Knight of the Order of Christ, expressly confirmed the collusion between the Vatican and the nazis. According to "Reforme", this is what the press of the Spanish dictator (Franco) published on the 3rd of May 1945, the day of Hitler's death: ... "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organisation of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organisation into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.."(108) "Swarms of Locusts: The Jesuit attack on the Faith" 2002 by Michael Bunker Page 12: There is a conspiracy against Christendom.... But who are Satan’s agents in this conspiracy? The “agents” are the Jesuits. Even though the Jesuits exude vast influence and control in the areas of theology, education, recorded history and current media, I am still perplexed that virtually no literature exists exposing the Jesuit’s influence on mainline Protestantism. This is what makes “Swarms of Locusts” such a necessary book. In this work, the author uncovers forgotten history regarding the cooperative salvation theology of the Jesuits. The author then builds upon these historical truths and clearly exposes how the Jesuits (and their cooperative redemption theology) have permeated all denominations of the Protestant Church. From Cain to Charles Finney, this book historically connects-the-dots and undeniably proves that modem Protestantism has abandoned the Doctrines of Grace and embraced the doctrines of cooperative salvation.

  • @AvoidantNomad
    @AvoidantNomad3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderfully produced and a pleasure to watch. Very, very informative. Thank you!

  • @stpaulphillip
    @stpaulphillip Жыл бұрын

    This is the best explanation of this event I’ve ever encountered. Thank you.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment4 жыл бұрын

    So this channel is Kings, Generals and Cardinals now

  • @patrick9876

    @patrick9876

    4 жыл бұрын

    And those called “the Short”, “the Great”, and so forth

  • @dzakysastra

    @dzakysastra

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@patrick9876 not the terrible though 🙅‍♂️

  • @emperoripmgproductions3150

    @emperoripmgproductions3150

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could that be Exeter from Azur Lane?

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment

    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emperoripmgproductions3150 yes

  • @TheCookieGamer523

    @TheCookieGamer523

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Lord Voldemort Caesar is what the German word for King (Kaizer) derives from. The Holy Roman Empire was a germanised continuation of Rome so it makes sense really.

  • @alexb4587
    @alexb45874 жыл бұрын

    As an Orthodox, I was hesitant clicking the video, but great job being impartial and covering pertinent facts!

  • @markuhler2664

    @markuhler2664

    4 жыл бұрын

    Am Catholic, I was impressed too (& in fact thought there were a couple of places the wording tilted to far west).

  • @IapetusStag

    @IapetusStag

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's missing the details on how Pope St. Leo III resisted the Filoque, and this video still holds on to the traditional 1054 as completely factual. Etc etc

  • @alexb4587

    @alexb4587

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ferrer Mihkael I agree 1054 isn’t exactly right but it is when the first excommunications and anathemas were thrown around West vs East, mainly due to personal dislike. However they did show the importance of 1204 as the final nail in the coffin that split them from the commoners to hierarchs.

  • @alexb4587

    @alexb4587

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mark Uhler To be expected but I’ve seen textbooks actually denouncing the East as wrong so I’ll gladly take this :)

  • @rustsquirrel2976

    @rustsquirrel2976

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am Russian Orthodox

  • @lotz871
    @lotz8713 жыл бұрын

    Very well presented! Extremely detailed and quick information though I had to watch this a few times to absorb it all.

  • @persona83
    @persona83 Жыл бұрын

    Great documentary and beautiful artwork. Not to mention the narration, pleasant voice and pace. Thank you!

  • @mayjeganmogan4514
    @mayjeganmogan45144 жыл бұрын

    imagine if irene had married charlemagne! how different would today's europe be?

  • @HolyknightVader999

    @HolyknightVader999

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Roman Empire might still be standing today. Frankish muscle combined with Greek science and intellectualism would create for a potent combination. They may even be able to beat back the Muslims.

  • @sanjak689

    @sanjak689

    4 жыл бұрын

    HolyknightVader999 no lol.

  • @EJ160E

    @EJ160E

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stopped by an impotent eunuch...thanks Obama 🙄🙄🙄

  • @HolyknightVader999

    @HolyknightVader999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sanjak689 Yes lol.

  • @PhoenixKyuketsuki

    @PhoenixKyuketsuki

    4 жыл бұрын

    DUDE, I was literally sitting here like....that ball-less son of a bitch literally deprived us of the world's most badass power couple, im so fuckin mad!!!!! They would have been BOSS!!!!

  • @charlescook5542
    @charlescook55424 жыл бұрын

    "normans living peaceful lives" that statement is not possible

  • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Oh, you know... just following orders from our bastard king..." -Sincerely, a Norman soldier

  • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Hoàng Nguyên That's pretty offensive

  • @xenotypos

    @xenotypos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Hoàng Nguyên Well it's okay then since they weren't vikings. That's probably why they actually brought something to england (mainly architectural techniques) . Italy is another matter though I admit.

  • @xenotypos

    @xenotypos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Hoàng Nguyên "Norman" in 1050 just meant "inhabitants of Normandy", which only had a small portion of scandinavian blood (since the frankish locals in Normandy have always been the majority), and which completely discarded scandinavian culture, so much that most didn't speak norse at all, just old french. William the conqueror itself had very few viking ancestors compared with the overwhelming majority of frankish ancestors. And by "frankish", I also mean what it meant at the time, not the germanic tribe of the 500s. Normans and vikings were as close as germans and french. Not that close. And btw Celtic people (Irish, Scot...) aren't Germanic, that's a different ethnicity. Russians are also a different ethnicity: Slav. It's just that historically the Rus' of kiev was kick started by scandinavians (which indeed are germanic).

  • @xenotypos

    @xenotypos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Hoàng Nguyên You're wrong. Celtic people are celtic people, slavs are slavs, germanic people are germanic people. Different ethnic groups historically speaking. Franks in 1050 mainly meant people from western frankia (not the former germanic tribe 5 centuries earlier), historians generally call them french already because in that west part they were already french culturally speaking (but they called themselves the franks). People in western frankia were for a large part from Gaulish ancestry (thus mainly Celtic), mixed with Germanic migrations (and a bit of roman migrations) throughout history. Frankish or french society was thus mixed, you can't consider french people strictly germanic, just a part. The normans consequently added to that mix. Historically, the meaning of terms just depend on what era you're talking about. For example before the 900s "Norman" was indeed just the name of the vikings (the way french people called them, all of them). But once Rollo was given a duchy which was named Normandy and swear fealty to the king of France, Normans were the people that lived in the duchy of Normandy, a totally different thing. Then in one century and half, they totally assimilated to the locals of that region.

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 Жыл бұрын

    WOW! What a fact packed 20 minutes! I'll have to watch this a few more times! Thank you!

  • @dimitris1303
    @dimitris13032 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations guys! You keep surprising me! Historically accurate and well presented videos. About this story, its useful to say that many historian believe that the real schism between the two peoples, was occured when the crusaders sacked Constantinople. The hubris of sacking the first christian capital, the city of God, was the decisive moment that pushed Orthodox Greeks away from Catholics, for good.

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox73584 жыл бұрын

    17:08 *"The grim end of this tale is already well known to many."* Don't, it's too soon 😔

  • @Fulllife3.2

    @Fulllife3.2

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's been over 800 years...

  • @bogdan3386

    @bogdan3386

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coolthief8375 yeah, the Balkan region is probably the most divided region in the world, full of biased people with some of the most conflicted ideas, worldview and ethnical disputes and just bitter hate towards each other

  • @bogdan3386

    @bogdan3386

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coolthief8375 it's also weird how the Ottoman occupation brought some form of unity in the Balkans between Christians no matter the doctrine but after the Turks disappeared that unity disappeared with them. Also I said those things about the Balkans because I live in the region and the people are wild.

  • @Tavromachos

    @Tavromachos

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coolthief8375 Also quiet a lot of people in Russia. Almoust got Constantinople in 1878, still feeling bad about "almoust" part.

  • @RoberttheWise

    @RoberttheWise

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where is Rome? *points to map* Where is Moscow? *points to map* Where is Constantinople? *points to own heart*

  • @msherif428
    @msherif4284 жыл бұрын

    "There's no such thing as toxic femininity." Irene: Hold my son's eyes

  • @dangelotringali7527

    @dangelotringali7527

    4 жыл бұрын

    And some people say that's sexist. She's why I'm Catholic.

  • @larrysilverstein8606

    @larrysilverstein8606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anastasia B you are the only idiot here

  • @DaveGIS123

    @DaveGIS123

    4 жыл бұрын

    "There's no such thing as toxic femininity." Nobody talks about Athaliah, queen of Judah (841-835 BC) who seized the throne after the death of her son King Ahaziah, killed her rivals, and established Baal worship in Judah. "When Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she proceeded to destroy the whole royal family of the house of Judah." (2 Chronicles 22: 10).

  • @zxil6

    @zxil6

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure toxic femininity exists, but that's not an example of it.

  • @kyarden7971

    @kyarden7971

    4 жыл бұрын

    So when Ivan the Terrible killed his son, Constantine “the Great” killed his wife and son, Süleyman killed several of his sons was not a toxic masculinity, but when Irene did it it suddenly is. It’s funny how some men today are so afraid of women in history doing what men in history also did. Laughable...

  • @21TheRonin
    @21TheRonin3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love how the Bulgarians are casually sitting on the sidelines, grabbing land whenever the Romans aren't paying attention.

  • @cpt7752

    @cpt7752

    2 жыл бұрын

    We even conquered all of Greece... Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days..

  • @jeffmarlatt6538
    @jeffmarlatt65383 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Quite informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @ryannguyen7466
    @ryannguyen74663 жыл бұрын

    Roman Empire: The Original Eastern Roman Empire: The Sequel Fascist Italy: The Sequel Nobody Wanted Holy Roman Empire: The one that ruined the original. Ottoman Empire: The bad spinoff. Russian Empire: The weird fanfiction. Alexander's Empire: The short lived prequel.

  • @user-wu3qn4dq2s

    @user-wu3qn4dq2s

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are both original. If anything the west betrayed the east more than once and continue to betray today...

  • @albertocruzado2899

    @albertocruzado2899

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spanish Empire: the cult classic film that took good note from the original, it is currently mainly forgotten by mainstream and normies, but everyone in his time took inspiration from or tried to copy or steal.

  • @skhan1992

    @skhan1992

    3 жыл бұрын

    How was the Ottoman empire a bad spinoff? They ruled for over 600 years and essentially had hegemonic rule for over 300. They also achieved a a land mass equivalent to the Roman Empire with a larger population.

  • @skhan1992

    @skhan1992

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Valentina Nightingale Well said 👍

  • @Alberto_Gomez

    @Alberto_Gomez

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@skhan1992 Yeah, if you wanna call sand "a land mass equivalent to the Roman Empire", by all means go ahead. It's a bad spinoff.

  • @ricardoguanipa8275
    @ricardoguanipa82754 жыл бұрын

    cant wait for the for the Schism Part 2: Lutheran Bugaloo

  • @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    4 жыл бұрын

    Western schism: Am I a joke to you??? ;)

  • @bvdemier1

    @bvdemier1

    4 жыл бұрын

    MOM, LUTHER IS NAILING SOMETHING TO THE DOOR AGAIN!!

  • @Harshhaze

    @Harshhaze

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bvdemier1 Martin Luther King day

  • @MasterMalrubius

    @MasterMalrubius

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bvdemier1 I think they were feces.

  • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933

    4 жыл бұрын

    "That's bullshit, this whole thing is bullshit. That's a scam, fuck the church. Here's 95 reasons why." -Martin Luther

  • @lupinthe4th400
    @lupinthe4th4003 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't a conflict between the Churches of Rome and Constantinole but between: The East: - Constantinople - Alexandria - Antioch - Jerusalem vs The West: - Rome In other words, Rome left the union, not the other way around. Also, "first-among-equals" isn't identical to one man deciding alone for the Church. Not to mention the artificial late addition of filioque, papal supremacy etc. Social impact should be distinguished as a separate issue, not identical to doctrinal issues, which are more crucial for maintining the correct belief (Orthodox in Greek).

  • @RickJaeger

    @RickJaeger

    2 жыл бұрын

    Social, cultural, and political differences are the main reason the Schism has persisted. There were multiple attempts at repairing the relationship over the ensuing centuries, but power struggles, miscommunications, and eventually a complete lack of interest on both sides in giving anything up have caused the doctrinal issues at the heart of the split to grow and become intractable problems, instead of solvable ones.

  • @genghiskhan5701

    @genghiskhan5701

    Жыл бұрын

    Rome pretty much won in this case

  • @lupinthe4th400

    @lupinthe4th400

    Жыл бұрын

    @@genghiskhan5701 those who altered the Creed?

  • @skyyywarppp428

    @skyyywarppp428

    Жыл бұрын

    Rome is still Christian and The East was conquered by muslims.

  • @lupinthe4th400

    @lupinthe4th400

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skyyywarppp428 that's a dumb argument, for: 1) territotrial expansion is completely irrelevant to the validity of dogma. 2) the Patriarchates exist to this day.

  • @InMyHumbleSphere
    @InMyHumbleSphere3 жыл бұрын

    As a Roman Catholic I was laughing and wincing in embarrassment while watching all these madness, but more than that I'm sad 'coz we are all brother & sister's in CHRIST. It is so unfortunate. Anyway Pax Christi ;P

  • @Vitorruy1

    @Vitorruy1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reformation has entered the chat

  • @FreshWholeMilk

    @FreshWholeMilk

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are not brothers and sisters in Christ, since you are not in Christ, as you are in heresy and schism from His Body, the Church. Repent and become Orthodox.

  • @XenoNecromorph

    @XenoNecromorph

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FreshWholeMilk No you

  • @absolutelyyousless7605

    @absolutelyyousless7605

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FreshWholeMilk Both Catholicism and Orthodoxy follow the main tenants laid down by our lord Jesus Christ, and mainly differ in how their churches practice, and as such should be understood to be as brothers.

  • @FreshWholeMilk

    @FreshWholeMilk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@absolutelyyousless7605 There is only one Church. The Church is the Body of Christ, and Christ has only one Body, lest you become a Nestorian. The main difference between us and the Papists isn’t praxial, it’s the heretical doctrines the Latins promulgate dogmatically - chief among them the Filioque, which contradicts the Trinitarian Dogma of the Monarchy of the Father

  • @user-vh6gw1hr6c
    @user-vh6gw1hr6c4 жыл бұрын

    I love learning about the history of Christianity :) It was thanks to the Greeks that my nation of Bulgaria converted to Christianity and it was a combined Bulgarian and Greek effort that successfully converted the future Russian. This is why a lot of Slavic names actually have Greek origins.

  • @iggyfitzsimmons1168

    @iggyfitzsimmons1168

    3 жыл бұрын

    cough* Rus conversion

  • @DVXDemetrivs

    @DVXDemetrivs

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems to me that the Bulgarians overestimate their role in the formation of Russia a bit, the fact that we became Christians is mainly the merit of the Greeks, with whom the future tsars almost completely tried to copy the state system

  • @user-vh6gw1hr6c

    @user-vh6gw1hr6c

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DVXDemetrivs Interesting! Can you point me to some sources so that I can learn more about this? :)

  • @DVXDemetrivs

    @DVXDemetrivs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ikipemiko Are you talking about the alphabet for which the citizens of Byzantium of Slavic origin were paid for in an organization entirely owned by the Greeks? no one says that the whole world watches Russian TV because an important part of this invention belongs to Zvorykin.

  • @melvinjansen2338

    @melvinjansen2338

    2 жыл бұрын

    Artem

  • @theDHC
    @theDHC4 жыл бұрын

    "For the first time since antiquity there were 2 Roman emperors" Well yes, but actually no

  • @fcalvaresi

    @fcalvaresi

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheDHC well actually only one of them was welcome in Rome.

  • @fcalvaresi

    @fcalvaresi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zarni000 I mean Charlemagne did have control of Rome, the papacy was a puppet state to the Franks.

  • @fcalvaresi

    @fcalvaresi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Christian Trevisan I wonder if you can bring something else than your despise.

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't believe he was meant to be a "2nd Emperor" or a competing emperor. He was declared the "true successor" to Constantine V, the son of Irene. Competing Emperors didn't come around until Otto.

  • @cadr003

    @cadr003

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paulmayson3129 While ultimately correct about their power coming from Augustan succession, the role of Christianity in the coronation of Roman emperors (and all European monarchs since) has been vital since the 500s. We can't ignore that the role of Emperor had become more than a secular position, but an important Christian one by then. And as a Christian, he was a spiritual subject to the Church.

  • @joshygoldiem_j2799
    @joshygoldiem_j2799 Жыл бұрын

    Can't help but think Kings and Generals and Knowledgia did a collab on this subject, they've each covered the historical and theological background of the schism respectively and the two videos complement each other so well.

  • @akritai2324
    @akritai23243 жыл бұрын

    Late to this but superbly explained. I showed this to my daughter to explain her Orthodox heritage better than I could.

  • @Dragons_Armory
    @Dragons_Armory4 жыл бұрын

    Freaking love the artworks man- there aren'e enough good Early Christian slash "Dark Age" European artworks out there and I for one absolutely love the quality of the works featured here! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @noahkidd3359

    @noahkidd3359

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly whoever did the art did a fantastic job... some of their best art yet

  • @shorewall

    @shorewall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Empress Irene was looking good! :D

  • @TomCruz54321

    @TomCruz54321

    Жыл бұрын

    This is like Game of Thrones: Church Edition!

  • @DarkImplement
    @DarkImplement4 жыл бұрын

    So instead of marrying Charlemagne, Irene went full Lesbo

  • @timax4114

    @timax4114

    3 жыл бұрын

    WGTOW

  • @Jimboken1
    @Jimboken1 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent overview. Thank you! Your effort is very much appreciated.

  • @StephensCrazyHour
    @StephensCrazyHour3 жыл бұрын

    One minor but important correction to this video. Before the great schism and one of the reasons for it was that the patriarchs of the church were all considered equals in matters of faith. The patriarch of Rome (the pope) was considered the "first among equals" and was not supposed to make decisions on cue matters of faith without an ecumenical council. Yet the pope added a word to the Nicean creed (a creed developed at an ecumenical council) to clarify the creed to some of its German converts. This infuriated Constantinople since they believed that the pope did not have authority to do this without an ecumenical council. After the split, Rome grew more and more excessive in its grab for power and money in Europe which ultimately triggered the reformation. The big question is why the reformers didn't push harder for communion with the East and instead forged its own path. Now Protestantism has had more internal schisms than either the Roman or Eastern church and Lutheranism is closer in practice to Catholicism than it is to Pentecostalism. Though in many ways protestant theology is far closer to orthodox theology than it is to Catholic theology, their practices are worlds apart.

  • @delgande

    @delgande

    2 жыл бұрын

    The power grabs were the only "legitimate" reasons for the protestants. Theologically they're barren. German princes helped Luther spread. They were so allied that Luther even attacked peasants and called for their slaughter. Protestants denied the 7 sacraments that both East and West churches had. They deny the basics of Christianity formed over 1500 years. They only succeeded because of political reasons, like medici corruption, land grabs, etc. This is why there was no such revolution in the East. If it was truly theological then the East should've had a reformation earlier especially since they used a common language like Greek unlike the alienating Latin of the west.

  • @pennyc11

    @pennyc11

    Жыл бұрын

    True. Catholicism in general is still influenced by the older religions, especially Judism. Many of their rituals are not Biblical at all but an added panacea to appease the various tribes they embraced.

  • @MH3GL

    @MH3GL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pennyc11 as someone who was raised Catholic, please elaborate, if you will.

  • @pennyc11

    @pennyc11

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MH3GL Honestly? You would have to take a course or find some good books on the history of religion. As this doc points out, the base religion is divided. Catholicism is an offshoot of Judism. The Bible clearly shows the progression of Judism and how Jesus started another religious movement. His goal was to embrace people of different backgrounds. Yet, many old Jews chose to remain less secular. Anyone can convert to Judism, Trumps daughter, Ivanka is a practicing converted Jew. However, it had a bad reputation in many lands. As the Roman's accepted Christianity, they helped to form the new religion, the Roman Catholic Church. This United a lot of people of different classes and grew to become a very powerful force to aid royalty to either retain or obtain power over the people. Once the Bible was distributed in print, followers questioned the many non-biblical events practiced by the Catholic Church. There are some obvious contradiction. This is often because the Catholic religion converted pagan celebrations into religious ones. It is how the very time of Jesus's birth was weaved into December rather then the Spring when traveling made more sense. The three Magi? Was an attempt to pull in Middle Eastern people to the religion and make it seem more believable and acceptable. It helps to study the cultures of other parts of the World. The World was not flooded over because there is historical accounts during that time found in Northern Cultures. But it can be stated, that in how small the world was to societies that did not travel the world? Such mistakes in historical accounts will happen. A believer of good intensions needs to accept that Bible History, is not perfect. It is mens interpretation of what they believe their God wants from them to share. Their intentions were not always wise because it is based on common knowledge at that time in history. Things were much different then. Not everything in the Bible is relevent today. That is because if you study the Bible, you will see how culture changed as people learned better ways to live and discovered more answers to questions that were theories not proven true by facts. That is why preachers say religion is based on faith. You either believe it is true or you don't. The only thing that makes a God true is people choosing to believe in something that cannot be confirmed as a fact. It only hurts people when it is being used to hurt people not to help people. This is when religion is a stumbling block and not a ladder to a successful life.

  • @MH3GL

    @MH3GL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pennyc11 I appreciate the long response, but let's clear some things up 🙂 I said I was RAISED Catholic, I am therefore familiar with its teachings, but I am not a practicing Catholic. On a whole, I find it very odd that 3 of the most abundant religions of the world (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) all pray to the same God (the god of Moses) and yet are all at war with one another over whose faith/God is the "true faith/God." Rather amusing. In your initial comment, you stated that many rituals in Catholicism were not biblical in origin, but "added panacea," and I was simply asking for clarification on that. Yes, I'm aware Christmas is based on a pagan holiday. I was not aware that the 3 magi were added in to be more appeasing to easterners - but it makes sense. Are there any other examples you can provide? As I said, I'm familiar, but not an expert. So while I may be aware of what I was taught, I may not be fully aware of the implications behind its origins. So I'm simply appealing to someone who appears to have more knowledge than I.

  • @oreste8570
    @oreste85704 жыл бұрын

    If Irine was exiled to Lesbos, this means she technically became a Lesbian.

  • @andrewforte3852

    @andrewforte3852

    4 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

  • @ata-urrehman6842

    @ata-urrehman6842

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lesbosian*

  • @oreste8570

    @oreste8570

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ata-urrehman6842 yeah, like Cyprusian

  • @irbis_rosh

    @irbis_rosh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Best. Comment. On. The. Net!

  • @gregoryjones9546

    @gregoryjones9546

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL!!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bubastis6306
    @bubastis63064 жыл бұрын

    The art in these videos is gorgeous. Love the illustrations for the different leaders.

  • @otgunz

    @otgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching!

  • @davidk5954

    @davidk5954

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@otgunz are you the artist?

  • @a.h.tvideomapping4293

    @a.h.tvideomapping4293

    3 жыл бұрын

    David k I think

  • @tengkualiff
    @tengkualiff Жыл бұрын

    As a muslim, this is great insight about other's religions. Thanks!

  • @bruhmcchaddeus413

    @bruhmcchaddeus413

    Жыл бұрын

    U just gotta understand that there was no orthodoxy before 1000s lol romans followed catholism

  • @urmwhynot

    @urmwhynot

    Жыл бұрын

    Christianity and Islam both stem from Abraham

  • @greekpimp77

    @greekpimp77

    Жыл бұрын

    NO WE are Catholic. Orthodox Catholic. The west became Roman Catholic. Pope John Paul admitted that BOTH can claim apostolic succession and they are like lungs. Left Lung and Right Lung.

  • @daniellteif8017

    @daniellteif8017

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bruhmcchaddeus413 I think you missed the point of this video

  • @Steph-sk3xb

    @Steph-sk3xb

    Жыл бұрын

    If you want to learn about the religion, I’d recommend reading the New Testament. Old Testament/Torah is important to read first though, a study bible is a good tool for that.

  • @KillerCadaver
    @KillerCadaver Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the greatest videos I have ever seen! Thank you for this.

  • @Gabriel-ip6me
    @Gabriel-ip6me4 жыл бұрын

    Dude the problem with Irene was not that "women were unfit to rule". Though not an usual thing, women could (and did) hold temporal power if the situation required it. They could not however (and still can't) hold positions of power in the Church. The title of Emperor was different to every other one. The Emperor was the supreme sovereign of Christendom. It was both a temporal and spiritual office. Byzantium could be rule by a woman, Christendom couldn't.

  • @derekk.2263

    @derekk.2263

    4 жыл бұрын

    Keep in mind too that there were loads of queens who did most of the major decision making through their husband, they basically just told the king what to say.

  • @SantomPh

    @SantomPh

    4 жыл бұрын

    it did work when the Eastern Empire was dominant as the Patriarch was serving the Emperor or Empress

  • @Gabriel-ip6me

    @Gabriel-ip6me

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@derekk.2263 "Loads" is an exaggeration. Medieval times were brutal and women received little to no education. Also, contrary to modern belief, the vast majority of queens were happy just being wives and didn't have any political aspirations. You do have examples of queens being more influential than their husbands, but it's a rare thing and only really started happening with the Renaissance, once women started receiving some education and the world got less brutal.

  • @INoticeTooMuch1

    @INoticeTooMuch1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Derek K. Examples? I’ll wait....

  • @INoticeTooMuch1

    @INoticeTooMuch1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @One Two that’s bullshit. What survey is this? The churches have a good 5-15% of abuse amongst their clergymen (employees) just like most other organizations. It just gets way more scrutiny bc of who they are and what they are supposed to represent. Btw studies say 100% of people named One Two on KZread like men. See how that works?

  • @DavidBenson2
    @DavidBenson24 жыл бұрын

    I'd totally watch a show about this from the eastern perspective.

  • @fotischaronis4597

    @fotischaronis4597

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you can see the easterns has as a political status the Democracy. The westerns has the monarchy of the kings!Completely deferential world's!!depression against freedom.

  • @christophed8429

    @christophed8429

    3 жыл бұрын

    Technically, they still have not really reconciled with each other even though some strides have been made. In order to tell this story from a certain perspective, it would offend the other side. I do agree with you though that it would make for great tv.

  • @bojanstare8667

    @bojanstare8667

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fotischaronis4597 Not really democracy. They have slaves.

  • @arealisticexpectationpera

    @arealisticexpectationpera

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fotischaronis4597 then hegemony versus hierarchy?

  • @fotischaronis4597

    @fotischaronis4597

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bojanstare8667 sure !depend the period

  • @abeddani992
    @abeddani9922 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this informative video, keep doing this on historical topics

  • @rcdcrichard
    @rcdcrichard3 жыл бұрын

    18:43 I respect you for mostly staying true to the EU IV map colors.

  • @ACGreyhound04
    @ACGreyhound043 жыл бұрын

    I have a unique perspective on the division between the Orthodox and Catholic churches, since it could be said that I have one foot in each cultural world. My mom is Greek Orthodox, while my dad is Irish Catholic. I was raised and baptized into the Greek Orthodox Church, of which I am still a proud member, but my secondary, undergraduate and graduate education was at Catholic schools, run by the Xaverian and Jesuit orders. This video provides a very good summary of the events surrounding the schism between the churches

  • @ahmetcelik2220

    @ahmetcelik2220

    Жыл бұрын

    You should become Muslim :)

  • @lunarlad8075

    @lunarlad8075

    Жыл бұрын

    beta dad

  • @Orthodoxi

    @Orthodoxi

    Жыл бұрын

    Other than a few things like the fact the Orthodox Church would never agree that the pope was ever the sole power. The Church was, is and always will be the sole power. Though the fact there may be many scattered true Christians outside of it, the Orthodox Church was, is and will be to the end, the only true remnant of the Church God gifted to us. With His son Christ as the head under the Holy Spirit. Of course.

  • @fritzvenezia9338

    @fritzvenezia9338

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Orthodoxi I'm a Catholic but the Orthodox priests in my country use the succession of Peter as a symbol of the supremacy of the bishop of Rome in settling the Ecumenical councils. The reason why Protestants still don't overwhelm the churches of Christ (Apostolic), are because of 1. The legitimacy of Ecumenical Councils, and 2. The apostolic succession. Who is there to say that we can settle an Ecumenical council and settle it? Is it a democracy or not? Yes they chose who will replace Judas, but that's it. The rest supports the claims of the bishop of Rome, which succeeds from Peter. If you'll deny that the bishop of Rome descended from Peter, then you might as well deny the validity of the Ecumenical councils. There is a reason why Jesus gave keys to Peter referencing explicitly to Eliakim in Isaiah 22:22. Even if you read what Ireneus and various early Christian scholars noted the supremacy of the bishop of Rome. Israel was once ruled by many Judges, but there is an existing blueprint that Judah will be the kingdom. It existed there in the scriptures for so long. Back then they only see what is good in their own eyes, but when they become a kingdom, it is not also immediately accepted, they even went to civil war, to banishment, to enslavement, until they realize that it is true that Judah in all of the tribes is all along the sole authority despite being written there in the scriptures for so long. The same thing you can keep arguing now. Any Orthodox or Protestants of today can do councils upon councils that they wanted to, and keep on splitting, but if they don't trace where their roots are, and which authority was actually given to, the church would be shaky at its core. We Catholics don't even curse the Orthodox church, we see it as a part of the true original Catholic and Apostolic church that Jesus Christ made, that Ignatius the disciple of John mentioned as early as 1st century AD. But it is the Orthodox who claims that they are the "Only" church, and by saying so, gives also legitimacy to the "Lutherans and Anglicans" who traces their roots to the Apostles through the apostate priests who broke off from the Church and then used the Apostolic succession as their reasoning, mixed with blasphemy and protestantism against the Church. Check out why the top intellectuals and scholars from Protestantism converts to Catholicism of all the Apostolic churches existing. People like Scott Hahn, Trent Horn, Cameroon, and so on.

  • @BOREDANDWELLBORED

    @BOREDANDWELLBORED

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Orthodoxi so Jesus words don't count? Peter you are my rock and upon my rock I will build my church? This is just a quick summary but the inevitable division by the East was material possession by emperors to inherit and hand over to their bloodline while the Pope is voted in and replaceable. On paper at least. The same case with the reformation of King Henry. Listen as a Asian man short brown and poor I never envy anyone's wealth because I understand that envy is the result of wanting to be in their place. In other words envious people are mad at handsome and rich people because they want to be them... What I'm trying to say is somebody has to be above you in this life and you have to learn to live with that because God is above you after you die. The Pope was put there by Jesus to be above emperor's Kings and all leaders. If the pope is bad he will be replaced.

  • @pradhanawibisono2432
    @pradhanawibisono24324 жыл бұрын

    I love how they subtly used CK-II music

  • @mustanaamiotto3812

    @mustanaamiotto3812

    3 жыл бұрын

    That music is drilled into my head

  • @lingjunwen1224

    @lingjunwen1224

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was just gonna say that LMAO

  • @drDopefish

    @drDopefish

    3 жыл бұрын

    They even used ck2 colors for the Byzantines, Franks etc. lol

  • @apalahartisebuahnama7684

    @apalahartisebuahnama7684

    3 жыл бұрын

    Didn't use CK music while presenting medieval history is a heresy.

  • @hoanglongnguyeno3173

    @hoanglongnguyeno3173

    2 жыл бұрын

    They used it in most Roman-Byzantine related videos, and I love it

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @d0g_0f_Christ0s
    @d0g_0f_Christ0s3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so very much for this brief but informative, gem of church history. Gem as in 'valuable' not 'the beauty of war'. The search for truth never ends, again, thank you for this contribution.

  • @reidmaxwell8874
    @reidmaxwell88744 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if Charlemagne had actually married Irene. Wow. That would be incredible.

  • @ramichahin2

    @ramichahin2

    4 жыл бұрын

    He did a smart call, that woman plucked out her owns son's eyes... Would you want to marry a woman that ruthless and cold?

  • @darrynmurphy2038

    @darrynmurphy2038

    4 жыл бұрын

    The East Roman nobility would never accept him as an imperial consort , never mind co-ruler. Irene was likely menopausal by that age, so it's unlikely they would have children, and even if they had imperial blood was no concrete guarantee to being Basileus (being half barbarian would be an obstacle). It's doubtful as well that Louis the Pious would want to share his kingdom with an infant half brother, as Frankish law dictated. Charlemagne only lived to 814 as well, so any child between the imperial couple would be 14 at the oldest by that point. It's a fascinating idea to think about, but I doubt it would've had a long lasting effect, certainly not one past the half century mark

  • @TonyMacFarlane

    @TonyMacFarlane

    4 жыл бұрын

    It would kind of be like if Donald Trump married Angela Merkel, if Charlemagne had been an ignorant lout with all the intellectual acumen of a hedgehog.

  • @Kopite4life12

    @Kopite4life12

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really. The Byzantine court would not have tolerated a Western barbarian calling the shots! It's more likely Irene would have been overthrown than an heir inheriting the Byzantine and Frankish realms!

  • @rayzas4885

    @rayzas4885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tony MacFarlane lol comparing Charlemagne to any current leader is an insult to Charlemagne

  • @danielanthony256
    @danielanthony2564 жыл бұрын

    As a Catholic I have nothing but love for my Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters. I listen to eastern religious chanting and love the Byzantine Empire.

  • @tr1084

    @tr1084

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Jesus Prayer is one of the greatest gifts they've given.

  • @user-jd3vs6ju2y

    @user-jd3vs6ju2y

    4 жыл бұрын

    daniel you should pay a visit to agios oros in the third leg of chalkidiki

  • @user-xs5te5eb3b

    @user-xs5te5eb3b

    4 жыл бұрын

    your ancestors didnt so that doesnt count

  • @thethirdsicily4802

    @thethirdsicily4802

    4 жыл бұрын

    Star Star they may be schismatic but don’t let it stop one from loving the Byzantines, with enough time the east and west WILL be brought back together.

  • @thethirdsicily4802

    @thethirdsicily4802

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Syed Ahmed east west schism, Greek orthodoxy is considered the east

  • @DaveTheTurd
    @DaveTheTurd Жыл бұрын

    Excellent.... thank you for the efforts you exercised in creating this essay. I look forward to checking out the rest of your content. +sub

  • @castleofmusic7469
    @castleofmusic74692 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely stunning video !!! Thank you 🙏❤️🙏

  • @silvussol8966
    @silvussol89663 жыл бұрын

    “I bet my God could beat up your God.” - Some Priest (probably)

  • @KingsandGenerals

    @KingsandGenerals

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most definitely!

  • @chaosXP3RT

    @chaosXP3RT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Both sides were Christian so there was only one God lmao

  • @riseALK

    @riseALK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chaosXP3RT Thatsthejoke

  • @tgducsfdifxdt4533

    @tgducsfdifxdt4533

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Poop Poop nope one

  • @bojanstare8667

    @bojanstare8667

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cetus4449 dangerous, not stupid

  • @lshe97
    @lshe974 жыл бұрын

    when you recently watched the video on the Normans in southern Italy, and then get to 13:29 in this video "Oh yeah. It's all coming together."

  • @claytonshepherd
    @claytonshepherd2 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou for this . I never understood why the 2 Churches were split. Great video. Cheers.

  • @MiThreeSunz
    @MiThreeSunz4 ай бұрын

    An interesting, informative, and educational overview! Well done! 🇨🇦

  • @evancurtis4215
    @evancurtis42154 жыл бұрын

    I've been wanting to learn more about the Great Schism for a long time, great video!

  • @JBlackjackp

    @JBlackjackp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Evan Curtis well you should probably start reading because this video is horrible

  • @IapetusStag

    @IapetusStag

    4 жыл бұрын

    The video is incomplete in details. I am a former Catholic seminarian who studies this and it's even more complicated than this that misses key points.

  • @Recusant_

    @Recusant_

    9 ай бұрын

    @@IapetusStagcare to share any info

  • @jreiland07
    @jreiland074 жыл бұрын

    Where my Orthodox brothers at ☦️🇬🇷

  • @jreiland07

    @jreiland07

    4 жыл бұрын

    Γεια σας!

  • @sethl7078

    @sethl7078

    4 жыл бұрын

    👌

  • @CygnusStarz

    @CygnusStarz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Hey ! Some of my family also Catholic. My two older sisters were Catholic. Former Orthodox Alterboy. Church name Yakov

  • @steparsteparest1121

    @steparsteparest1121

    4 жыл бұрын

    🇧🇬🇧🇾🇬🇪🇬🇷🇲🇩🇲🇪🇷🇴🇷🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦 here

  • @arturo7036

    @arturo7036

    4 жыл бұрын

    Estonian Orthodox here 🇪🇪☦️

  • @brettsh.2545
    @brettsh.2545 Жыл бұрын

    This channel is so well done.

  • @danhudson1333
    @danhudson13333 жыл бұрын

    Watching this as a former Protestant who converted to Orthodox

  • @virlanalexandru261

    @virlanalexandru261

    3 жыл бұрын

    im so glad you did it

  • @tubeysr

    @tubeysr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why

  • @danielhorn4113

    @danielhorn4113

    3 жыл бұрын

    Roman Catholic Latin is better

  • @efipaparizoy7770

    @efipaparizoy7770

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sameer bruh let them believe in what they want to believe lmao

  • @efipaparizoy7770

    @efipaparizoy7770

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sameer I say that in a sense of a lot of people don't think god is real but also a lot of people think god is real so just leave them be

  • @3dwardcullen69
    @3dwardcullen694 жыл бұрын

    Just to muddle things up, Romanians are the only Latins who are Greek Orthodox.

  • @six2make4

    @six2make4

    4 жыл бұрын

    I swear to god, there is always that one guy...

  • @CARPENTER1991

    @CARPENTER1991

    4 жыл бұрын

    they are slavs not latins

  • @CulinVlau

    @CulinVlau

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CARPENTER1991 umm, no. The Romanian language is recognized as a Romance language.

  • @3dwardcullen69

    @3dwardcullen69

    4 жыл бұрын

    alexander lmao. You need to get an education. Romanian= romans. It’s even in the name.

  • @CARPENTER1991

    @CARPENTER1991

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@3dwardcullen69 sorry, pretenders are not accepted

  • @Brahmdagh
    @Brahmdagh4 жыл бұрын

    ".. laid a letter of excommnication in Hagia Sofia" I actually hit pause, and went "woooah!" As an outsider, it surely looks like it was the pope who was escalating the stakes all the time.

  • @SeymoreSparda

    @SeymoreSparda

    4 жыл бұрын

    "You can't fire mehhh! I quit !!!!" 😤😡

  • @johnpathadan

    @johnpathadan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shut up bitch

  • @alexandrub8786

    @alexandrub8786

    4 жыл бұрын

    That what orthodox think too,even if the father from Rome is called "the first among equals".

  • @JBlackjackp

    @JBlackjackp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Generally this is poorly researched, the Papal Legate that did that did not have the authority from the pope to do that and the easterners would have known this (in addition to the fact the pope had died and so he had no authority of any kind anyway)

  • @markuhler2664

    @markuhler2664

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heavy move but there are so many factors that go into not only the lead up but also this act itself that it should have been ignored by both sides (& apologized by the new Pope). At this point schism was going to happen.

  • @Snowdogash
    @Snowdogash2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. The most striking thing is by about minute 13 it suddenly hits you how much upheaval was caused by people arguing over which magical invisible floaty wizard man was the best.

  • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681

    @ihavenojawandimustscream4681

    2 жыл бұрын

    Man has always slaughter what they can see for things they cannot see,from ideology to nation to sky wizards

  • @nadim0309
    @nadim03092 жыл бұрын

    historians always forget that during the first caliphate there was one eastern christian territory that was never converted which is Mount. Lebanon. Proud to be a Maronite

  • @Damo2690

    @Damo2690

    2 жыл бұрын

    There were several

  • @ZenFox0
    @ZenFox03 жыл бұрын

    My first time viewing the channel. I love the high-level overview of the Great Schism. I also love the maps and artwork by Oğuz Tunç and company. Keep up the great work!

  • @NYCfrankie
    @NYCfrankie4 жыл бұрын

    Another interesting topic u guys are always a highlight of my day

  • @anjusanal

    @anjusanal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Frankie Fontecchio, I see your comments everywhere in this channel.

  • @anjusanal

    @anjusanal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Enivid Clinton, I know you’re doing this as a part of some offer or discount if you advertise that thing...

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    @maturiachije4356

    4 жыл бұрын

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  • @anjusanal

    @anjusanal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Enivid Clinton , what is this forex trading?

  • @anjusanal

    @anjusanal

    4 жыл бұрын

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  • @jacobluedy5534
    @jacobluedy55342 жыл бұрын

    Extremely well put together

  • @byzantineemperor6459
    @byzantineemperor64592 жыл бұрын

    Very detailed report! Well explained.

  • @ash8207
    @ash82074 жыл бұрын

    I really love how you guys take a complex subject like this, simplify it & make it quite entertaining & fun to watch. Well done!

  • @gabo1841997
    @gabo18419974 жыл бұрын

    The parallax animations of these videos are absolutely spectacular!

  • @roncornelius8339
    @roncornelius83392 жыл бұрын

    Awesome 👏 information!! Thank You For Sharing!!! Simply fantastic !!!!

  • @andrewmcandrew7642
    @andrewmcandrew7642 Жыл бұрын

    Shout out to not only this channel but also the dedicated camera men 🎥 they have in their employment who can travel back in time to show us the map of these things

  • @gauntlettcf5669
    @gauntlettcf56693 жыл бұрын

    Dang, imagine if Irene did marry Charlemagne... That would have been so sick

  • @overlord5068

    @overlord5068

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, everybody would be Catholic

  • @Awakeningspirit20

    @Awakeningspirit20

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Tom K in some alternate universe there's some alternate history video about "What if the Christian Church never reunified" and speculates about what's basically our world. Their world is likely centuries behind ours, or more tho. Or, one could argue centuries AHEAD. I always just thought the Reformation led to less restriction on innovation.

  • @sidpan8218
    @sidpan82183 жыл бұрын

    5:47 orthodox Christians don’t worship images and icons, it’s called veneration and it’s a symbol of love and respect for whoever or whatever is depicted on the icon. Not worshiping the icon itself.

  • @greatexpectations6577

    @greatexpectations6577

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is hard to distinguish. At the end of the day, you are bowing down to an in-graven image, which makes you an idol worshiper.

  • @sidpan8218

    @sidpan8218

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greatexpectations6577 ah yes and every time someone bows to a king or queen that’s idol worship? When you kiss your grandma that’s idol worship?

  • @alvaro701

    @alvaro701

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sidpan8218 Actually, yes.

  • @henriquebraga5266

    @henriquebraga5266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greatexpectations6577 Catholics and Orthodox Christians are no more idol worshippers than Protestants are Bible worshippers.

  • @TheGamingBDGR

    @TheGamingBDGR

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greatexpectations6577 from the outside it really seems that way. But no one in Orthodoxy is saying that image is a "god" and worshipping it. From what I understand is that they are looking at the verses where Paul says "for we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses in the saints who have gone before us. Therefore brothers and sisters let us run our race not in vain."(paraphrased) thus the showing respect to those ancestors who lived their lives righteously and are "now seated with Christ in heavenly places" As to the "praying to" again this isn't seen or acted upon as praying to God himself, which they still do. But rather the concept behind that is that just as we are told to go to one another and seek corporate prayer, i.e. someone's child is struggling with addiction so they go to their church and ask people to join with them in prayer for this person thus showing the unity of Christ' body, so they go to the saints who have passed. As it says in Hebrews(I think) "for Christ rose from the grave. Therefore God is not Lord of the dead but of the Living" the belief is that the saints though dead on earth are alive and seated with Christ and while yes we have unfiltered access to Christ(see the tearing of the veil) how much more so is the access of those who are seated next to them and as you may ask a brother at Church to pray for a struggle so you ask the saints. As a protestant, once looked at in the true light of where the tradition comes from I really fail to see the Idol worship. They still profess the Lord Jesus Christ is their savior and is Himself God and the Son of God, one with the Father and the Holy Spirit. They still offer their worship to Him and Him alone and show respect and honor to those church fathers who have already passed on. There's more but honestly The Ten Minute Bible Hour has a wonderful series where he goes and talk with the various Orthodox churches and sits down with a Catholic theologian friend and discusses all of this, I highly recommend watching it.

  • @MelaniesManicures
    @MelaniesManicures Жыл бұрын

    As a new Catholic convert I appreciated this video. I never understand the schism. I pray for reunification, because I know Christ wants all Christians to be united.

  • @GigaChadlovesandcares

    @GigaChadlovesandcares

    Жыл бұрын

    In the bible it mentions there only being one Church for all Christians, humans never learn to be honest.

  • @MelaniesManicures

    @MelaniesManicures

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GigaChadlovesandcares I agree about there only being one Church.

  • @Coraxiom

    @Coraxiom

    Жыл бұрын

    The body of Christ is made up of each individual member that follows Christ. And the "church" is the multitude, or congregation, of the body of Christ. "22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way." Ephesians 1:22-23

  • @robwalsh9843
    @robwalsh98433 жыл бұрын

    Western Romans: You're bad Christians! Eastern Romans: You're bad Christians! Other folks: Hey, weren't we all worshiping the same gods and getting shitfaced at festivals not too long ago?

  • @dry3474

    @dry3474

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, Catholic worship statues it is polytheism. They mix Jesus teaching with Roman paganism culture. Jesus prohibited image of God, Roman Catholic make many statues and paintings of God. Even the Christmas Day on 25th December was actually a fabrication, Roman Catholic mix that with Roman culture celebrating the birth of Roman Sun God

  • @sonicnarutoTDpg

    @sonicnarutoTDpg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dry3474 A Palamite calling anyone a heretic, cute

  • @THELORDVODKA

    @THELORDVODKA

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dry3474 Nobody worships statutes lol, they are there assist believers to connect with creator that lies within whole creation. Its much like cross, we don't pray to it, we pray to what it symbolises. And that is beautiful!

  • @THELORDVODKA

    @THELORDVODKA

    2 жыл бұрын

    @علي ياسر I replied already,thats because people thought statutes were actual god (thought they can give form to thr Allmighty). Nowadays we know that isnt true an they help believers connect to creator

  • @overlord5068

    @overlord5068

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dry3474 Keep lying, devil

  • @22vx
    @22vx4 жыл бұрын

    Intriguing historical topic - love this one!

  • @carlosnevarez4003

    @carlosnevarez4003

    4 жыл бұрын

    I definitely agree!

  • @anjusanal

    @anjusanal

    4 жыл бұрын

    22vx, I see you everywhere

  • @stephenmeier4658
    @stephenmeier46583 жыл бұрын

    An absolutely astonishing accomplishment. The simplicity of your approach belies it's ability to encapsulate a vast scope. Should be used by schools everywhere!

  • @chum3192

    @chum3192

    2 жыл бұрын

    Proverbs 22:3 "A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, But the simple pass on and are punished." Take heed to this truth, or if you reject it as "conspiracy" or "craziness" you will suffer the consequences. "Popery Puseyism Jesuitism" By Luigi Desanctis Page 140: At what, then, do the Jesuits aim? According to them, they only seek the greater glory of God; but if you examine the facts you will find that they aim at universal dominion alone. They have rendered themselves indispensable to the Pope, who, without them, could not exist, because Catholicism is identified with them. They have rendered themselves indispensable to governors and hold revolutions in their hands; and in this way, either under one name or another, it is they who rule the world, who have reduced it to such perversion of ideas, that he can neither be a good citizen nor a good Catholic who is not a Jesuit. Page 139: He who thinks he knows the Jesuits by having read all the books that were written in the past century to unmask them, would be grossly deceived. The Jesuitism of that day was an open war against the Gospel and society; the Jesuitism of the present day is a slow but contagious and deadly disease, which secretly insinuates itself; it is a poison taken under the name of medicine. "History of the Jesuits: their origin, progress, doctrines, and designs" 1854 By Nicolini, G. B. (Giovanni Battista) Page 39: take the Jesuit for what he ought or appears to be, and you commit the greatest of blunders. Draw the character after what the Jesuit seems to be in London, and you will not recognize your portrait in the Jesuit of Rome. The Jesuit is the man of circumstances. Despotic in Spain, constitutional in England, republican in Paraguay, bigot in Rome, idolater in India, he shall assume and act out in his own person, with admirable flexibility, all those different features by which men are usually to be distinguished from each other. He will accompany the gay woman of the world to the theatre, and will share in the excesses of the debauchee. With solemn countenance, he will take his place by the side of the religious man at church, and he will revel in the tavern with the glutton and the sot. He dresses, in all garbs, speaks all languages, knows all customs, is present everywhere though nowhere recognized-and all this, it should seem (O monstrous blasphemy!), for the greater glory of God Page 82: [Jesuit] Father Francis Pelhco... candidly confesses that " the many illustrious friends of the Society, prelates, orators, learned and distinguished men of every description, the supporters of the Society, remain occult, and obliged to be silent.'' "The Jesuits in History" by Hector MacPherson Page 148: Danger lies in the fact that since the Vatican Council the interests of both are identical. Jesuitism is the power behind the Papal throne. “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist or Protestant,” once remarked Lord Palmerston, “ is likely to breed social disturbance.” So hurtful was the Jesuit Order found to be that, up to 1860, it was expelled no fewer than seventy times from countries which has suffered from its machinations... In spite of Continental warnings, England, in the name of a spurious toleration, has become a Jesuit dumping-ground. Those whom other countries have found from sad experience to be enemies, Britain allows to land on her shores, and to carry on unmolested their work of iniquity. We are carrying toleration to excess, and unless there is a change of policy, this nation will one day pay a heavy penalty. If we wish to escape the penalty, we must come to realize that a system which enslaves the individual, fosters superstition, is at war with patriotism and destroys morality, will, if allowed to flourish unchecked, sooner or later destroy society. "The Jesuits in History" 1914 by Hector MacPherson Page 122: In order to clearness of thought in dealing with this subject, it is well to note the distinction between Roman Catholicism and the Papacy. The former has to do mainly with religion. It rests upon the theological doctrines which Protestants believe to be erroneous. There are Roman Catholics who take their religion but not their politics from the Pope. Had the Roman Catholic Church remained a purely religious organisation like any other sect, the world would have been spared centuries of evil. But in the course of its development the Romish Church, through its Popes, entered the civil sphere and aspired to universal monarchy. "The Vatican Against Europe" 1993 by Edmond Paris Page 308: In the future, as in the past, she (The Catholic Church) will inexorably move towards the end she has set herself, without the slightest thought for the ruins and the catastrophes that her unwearying pursuit might be causing. "The end justifies the means". "No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role. "The Secret History Of The Jesuits" 1975 by Edmond Paris Page 7: The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars-a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict. Page -163-164: But let us see, first, how an especially "authorized" personality, Franco, Knight of the Order of Christ, expressly confirmed the collusion between the Vatican and the nazis. According to "Reforme", this is what the press of the Spanish dictator (Franco) published on the 3rd of May 1945, the day of Hitler's death: ... "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organisation of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organisation into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.."(108) "Swarms of Locusts: The Jesuit attack on the Faith" 2002 by Michael Bunker Page 12: There is a conspiracy against Christendom.... But who are Satan’s agents in this conspiracy? The “agents” are the Jesuits. Even though the Jesuits exude vast influence and control in the areas of theology, education, recorded history and current media, I am still perplexed that virtually no literature exists exposing the Jesuit’s influence on mainline Protestantism. This is what makes “Swarms of Locusts” such a necessary book. In this work, the author uncovers forgotten history regarding the cooperative salvation theology of the Jesuits. The author then builds upon these historical truths and clearly exposes how the Jesuits (and their cooperative redemption theology) have permeated all denominations of the Protestant Church. From Cain to Charles Finney, this book historically connects-the-dots and undeniably proves that modem Protestantism has abandoned the Doctrines of Grace and embraced the doctrines of cooperative salvation.

  • @PlutoRama
    @PlutoRama Жыл бұрын

    I hated history my entire life, but this video just made the miracle. Thank you. I enjoyed watching and listening every second of it! :D

  • @isidrobadani1657
    @isidrobadani16573 жыл бұрын

    The Pope, in the first place, was considered "first among equals" rather than the supreme authority of all Christianity: it was more the political maneuvers of the bishop of Rome that allowed him to become the "highest authority in the material world", maneuvers, many sometimes based on conscious lying, as was the so-called "Donation of Constantine".

  • @SpectatorAlius

    @SpectatorAlius

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering when someone would make that correction! Yes, the Roman Pope, when he was still Orthodox, was "first among equals" -- and there was a lot of disagreement over that that really meant! But Rome was also the ecclesiastical court of final instance. That is not quite the same thing as "supreme authority of all Christianity", but I can see how people would confuse the two -- sometimes deliberately.

  • @garrettkalker3214

    @garrettkalker3214

    2 жыл бұрын

    The “Donation of Constantine” wasn’t the basis of the Pope’s authority, but used as an argument for the Popes authority on secular worldly matters-not theological ones. The bishop of Rome always had primacy over the other apostolic successors in theological issues due to his succession from Peter in Rome-the very earliest Christians recognized this in the first three centuries of Christianity and in the times before Christianity became legal (if you need primary sources just hmu). In any case, the Donation was, again, an argument for secular worldly authority in addition to theological authority (since it allowed the Catholic Church to have a more legitimate claim to be the successor of the Roman Empire in addition to being Peter’s successor)

  • @HolyknightVader999

    @HolyknightVader999

    Жыл бұрын

    He never was the highest authority in the material world. When popes made such claims, the Catholic world either laughed at him, or arrested and replaced him. Only Innocent III successfully wielded temporal power, and that was because he had good friends like Richard the Lionheart and Philip II of France. Later popes who tried to assert worldly power were kicked to the curb and replaced with popes who stuck to the spiritual sphere.

  • @joesomebody3365
    @joesomebody33653 жыл бұрын

    Love the supporting visuals, very interesting history. Great video. Thanks for making it.

  • @chrisadlc1
    @chrisadlc14 жыл бұрын

    Could’ve married Charlemagne but instead went Lesbos.. Correction to**

  • @user-uw9px6lq4i

    @user-uw9px6lq4i

    4 жыл бұрын

    They didn't let her. She would but they dethroned her.

  • @DarkImplement

    @DarkImplement

    4 жыл бұрын

    She went full Lesbo, man

  • @madwolf0966

    @madwolf0966

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if they got married.....Rome might have seen another "unification" on that era.

  • @hudsona4004

    @hudsona4004

    4 жыл бұрын

    Someone tell Jeanette Winterson to write a book about this.

  • @RichJalipa
    @RichJalipa3 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Thank you!