Great Players of the Past: Jan Timman

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Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold covers Jan Timman, a Dutch chess grandmaster who was one of the world's leading chess players from the late 1970s to the early 1990s. This lecture was recored on August 24th, 2023 in Roswell, Georgia.
Games:
08:40 Jan Timman vs Anatoly Karpov, Montreal, 1979
27:03 Jan Timman vs Garry Kasparov, KRO Match 1985
40:39 Jan Timman vs Nigel Short, Interpolis 1990
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Пікірлер: 62

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety11 ай бұрын

    Timman was way ahead of his time. It wasn't until the last decade that Hans Niemann, and later Carlsen, began to emulate his magnificent hair.

  • @dark_magician_sdy

    @dark_magician_sdy

    10 ай бұрын

    Carlsen had it before Buttbead neimann did, cmon bro

  • @stigludwigsen

    @stigludwigsen

    7 ай бұрын

    He always looked like a man from the 1700s.

  • @beeble2003

    @beeble2003

    3 ай бұрын

    Two words for you. John Nunn.

  • @francescoassanti8335
    @francescoassanti833510 ай бұрын

    Ben is improving: with this pace by 2024 he'll achieve the goal of an introduction longer than the rest of the lecture

  • @goodnewseverybody739
    @goodnewseverybody73911 ай бұрын

    Best chess content around. Real meat and potatoes stuff. Turns out actually understanding the game gives you a bit of an advantage.

  • @aakashbasu3219

    @aakashbasu3219

    11 ай бұрын

    Well he's vegan so no meat

  • @ragingram9540
    @ragingram954011 ай бұрын

    Hey, it's my favourite player, Jan Timman

  • @cooperjudson5807

    @cooperjudson5807

    11 ай бұрын

    Hey, it’s my favourite player, Ben Finegold

  • @santos1827

    @santos1827

    11 ай бұрын

    this is the funniest comment i have ever seen in the past hour

  • @nicks3294

    @nicks3294

    11 ай бұрын

    because you’ve heard of him!

  • @r.mcdonnell8614

    @r.mcdonnell8614

    11 ай бұрын

    @@nicks3294 in all honesty when I first learned about chess a year and a half ago MVL was my favorite (current) player simply because he was the only one I'd heard of. I still am a big fan of his

  • @jesuslovesyou-mattsmith1502

    @jesuslovesyou-mattsmith1502

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@r.mcdonnell8614who is mvl

  • @chrispope9418
    @chrispope941811 ай бұрын

    Ben you do such a good job at this. Keep them coming. You’re the best etc but mainly etc 😂

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe11 ай бұрын

    Nice games, Timman was one of my favorite players and authors.

  • @Flxz0r
    @Flxz0r11 ай бұрын

    One of the absolute greats. Thanks for the lecture.

  • @grahamdugan
    @grahamdugan4 ай бұрын

    That second game against Kasparov was utterly beautiful

  • @kevinneptune587
    @kevinneptune58711 ай бұрын

    Looks like you had a good lunch today... Nice video, thank you.

  • @spodule6000

    @spodule6000

    11 ай бұрын

    Several, probably.

  • @elcid451
    @elcid45111 ай бұрын

    Hey... I was in Montreal at that tournament and spoke to Michail Tal who had to wave his body guards off when I approached him! Lol. Didn't see you Ben. You must have been Short

  • @konigsrustung8115

    @konigsrustung8115

    11 ай бұрын

    Nigel

  • @lohey7887
    @lohey788711 ай бұрын

    Great Shirt Stains of the Present

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg859511 ай бұрын

    levy to ben: "can you please take care of my dogs?" levy to dogs: "when ben gives his lecture, bark as loud as you can"

  • @dark_magician_sdy

    @dark_magician_sdy

    10 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @mmitleidt7969
    @mmitleidt796911 ай бұрын

    You know you've reached the top when you don't have to worry about sauce stains on your shirt anymore.

  • @McCainenl

    @McCainenl

    11 ай бұрын

    a very American sartorial approach

  • @Demian_R
    @Demian_R11 ай бұрын

    According to his Wiki, Kasparov wasn't even rated until 1979. Making Ben higher rated than him for 4 years.

  • @zaydengestures7275

    @zaydengestures7275

    11 ай бұрын

    Ridiculous if true

  • @r.mcdonnell8614

    @r.mcdonnell8614

    11 ай бұрын

    Who's better: Ben Finegold--has been rated higher than Garry Kasparov Every player since the mid 80s other than Magnus--has not been rated higher than Garry Kasparov

  • @TheChessRunner

    @TheChessRunner

    9 ай бұрын

    Clearly Ben wins on longevity

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis178711 ай бұрын

    You've done one of these videos on Bent Larsen and now one on Timman. When you see either of these two featured in a replay, they almost always are on the losing side.

  • @biggsweaty
    @biggsweaty11 ай бұрын

    This was really great. Thanks for that.

  • @orc_gunslinger
    @orc_gunslinger11 ай бұрын

    As a ruy lopez player this was a fun one to watch

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-574811 ай бұрын

    Great choice of games!

  • @jaccocornelisschutter8895
    @jaccocornelisschutter889511 ай бұрын

    Jan the man

  • @mikhailmorphy6284
    @mikhailmorphy62849 ай бұрын

    I love your lectures

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble20033 ай бұрын

    Did people really argue about who was the world champion in the 1990s? My recollection of that time is that everybody knew that the world champion was Kasparov or whoever could beat him, and then Kramnik or whoever could beat him. Karpov and Timman played the 1993 FIDE world championship match because they were the most successful players in the candidates cycle except for Short: Timman lost to Short in the candidates final and Karpov in the semi. (The other semi-finalist was Yusupov, but he'd already lost to Timman in that semi-final.)

  • @dg19de
    @dg19de11 ай бұрын

    3:12 on the far left: almost 🤣

  • @Chris.4345
    @Chris.434511 ай бұрын

    This is definitely one of the Jan Timman lectures of all time. Also, Shout! is really effective on grease stains, especially if applied promptly.

  • @bowrudder899
    @bowrudder89911 ай бұрын

    Please do Arthur Dake!

  • @addyjons
    @addyjons11 ай бұрын

    Hello. do you know if Timman will be any tournament i the near future??

  • @mmitleidt7969
    @mmitleidt796911 ай бұрын

    I'm still curious which chess books are on the shelf.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.328911 ай бұрын

    Here's a great Dutch chess documentary called "Love for Wood" (with English subs): kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2hs1I-DhLanhrA.html where you can see a lot of Timman live, philosophizing about chess with other players. He seems like a really nice guy, very balanced for a chess player :) Also IMO it's one of the very few truly good chess documentaries, heartily recommended! Otherwise, great lecture about one of my favourite chess players. As always, thanks Ben :D

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark.10 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @davidblack2970
    @davidblack297011 ай бұрын

    And we'll let the computers figure it out? 14...Qh4 15. Re1 Qxf2+ 16. Kh1 Qh4+ 17. Kg1 Qh2+ 18. Kf1 Qh1+ 19. Ke2 Qxg2+ 20. Kd3 Rd8+ etc. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

  • @emailjwr
    @emailjwr11 ай бұрын

    The relish stain on his shirt lmao. I hope the sponsors asked for that

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen48311 ай бұрын

    9:25 - Priceless. 😀 I can insult you in the comments! You have been warned!

  • @kieron5495
    @kieron549510 ай бұрын

    Ben is becoming Christopher Walken

  • @woodenfences
    @woodenfences11 ай бұрын

    "When Korchnoï played b3..." @16:53

  • @Witroodwit
    @Witroodwit11 ай бұрын

    Like if your Dutch 🇳🇱

  • @samtackett
    @samtackett11 ай бұрын

    What is Jan timman best book to buy for 1300-1500 player like me

  • @mabu1760

    @mabu1760

    2 ай бұрын

    Probably a book by Bobby Fischer, but I doubt Timman would have you take it off his hands for any reasonable price.

  • @MarkWiseTechno
    @MarkWiseTechno11 ай бұрын

    6:15 I'll argue with you about the those guys being the 4 most talented players in 1991. Kamsky is the one who doesn't fit. Kamsky was only 16-17 yrs old then, and Ivanchuk was unquestionably a superior talent at that time.

  • @beeble2003

    @beeble2003

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, Ivanchuk was #2 in the world in 1991. Kamsky was top-ten in 1991, though, despite "only" being 2650.

  • @youradhere5761
    @youradhere576111 ай бұрын

    Ah... The good old days when the Dutch government took less than 100% of your earnings! Good times!

  • @danielcamachofrancabandier8392
    @danielcamachofrancabandier839211 ай бұрын

    First

  • @robertsanders7060
    @robertsanders706011 ай бұрын

    IMHO, not really the perfect game to present - a case when Timman ran into the full force of USSR prep....

  • @The_Invisible_Man
    @The_Invisible_Man11 ай бұрын

    Show a loss…what?

  • @shakohoto7901
    @shakohoto790111 ай бұрын

    Ben is stupid! Rawr! Sincerely, the gawking rabble on the internets

  • @BongelaMnguni
    @BongelaMnguni11 ай бұрын

    Hans Niemann >>> Jan Timman

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg859511 ай бұрын

    9:40 i will sue you for a million dollars ... i will settle for a thousand

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