GrapheneOS: 1 Year Update and All Apps I Use!!
It has been one year using GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel 5 and I absolutely have been enjoying this phone.
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To clarify, I do not have Google Play Services or Google Services Framework installed on my phone. All apps shown in this video, in each profile, are working for me without those Google services.
@heinzkitzvelvet
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@_D.Va_
Жыл бұрын
I too disabled Google Services Framework, Play Store, Google Play Services on my Sister's Samsung Phone 🙃. Every App works fine even the Payments App, I think the Warning Notification is to deceive users to turn on the Services so they can Track you. Aurora Store and APK Mirror does the job 😤.
@_D.Va_
Жыл бұрын
@ThePrivacyWayfinder Why my comment keep disappearing on your video 😭? Did you hide my Account from appearing 🥺 on your Channel?
@heinzkitzvelvet
Жыл бұрын
@@_D.Va_ unless you removed everything (Google) from her phone, it's still running in the background.
@_D.Va_
Жыл бұрын
@@heinzkitzvelvet Really? So will I need to uninstall it through ADB Command or is there something else that I am missing 🤔? Your reply will be very helpful 👏
Everything works now. People are commenting like this video isnt 1 year old. Graphene has updated a lot since this video was released.
I watched your whole playlist. Thank you for being clear and concise in all of them. Learned a lot because of it. Good content.
What an amazing, realistic and an actual user friendly video! A great walkthrough to help users understand. Thanks for helping me decide!! 👍
Magic Earth has turn-by-turn voice navigation built in. GrapheneOS is the best thing ever! Right now, in attempting to set up a FOSS 'Tasker' alternative called 'Easer' to automate unblocking the microphone when a phone call is in progress, then blocking it again when the call ends. Same with the camera. Only unblocked when the camera app is in use. I don't want to have to remember to unblock and block those things constantly. We'll see how it goes.
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
That’s great and that is an excellent idea, hope it works out! How would you rate Magic Earth compared to the Google Maps, Apple Maps, or Waze? As user friendly?
@heinzkitzvelvet
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder I've had every Google service possible, either disabled or paused for years. My wife has gmaps , which we have used from time to time. I don't think there is any alterative out there that beats it. Never owned an Apple product, except an iPod nano my mom gave me 15 years ago, so I can't speak on Apple maps. I've never used Waze. I used OSMand maps when I first got Graphene, but it was a nightmare to use and I hated it. Magic Earth is very user friendly by comparison. Maps are downloadable by state. I haven't used it a great deal, but I like it.
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks!! I’ll probably try it out sometime.
@heinzkitzvelvet
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Side Of Burritos channel did a quasi-review of Magic Earth when he drove across a few states. He likened it to Apple maps. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKRhj9OSaci5iaw.html
@DreadThread16
Жыл бұрын
Please let me know how you did it if you get it to work, I'd love to have the same sort of functionality.
Good beginner friendly video! Planning on getting graphene myself soon. Already dipped my toes in with f droid with izzy and aurora store but going to make the full move soon
Thank you so much for this detailed video. We need tech like this to empower people rather than create a surveillance state.
Excellent vid guide, very helpful, thank u!👏👍
I don’t get the Google logo at all on start up which is nice, just the Graphenos one :) Really useful vid, thanks!!
great video! I took a couple of app for my personal use
very helpful video. thank you my friend! just installed this miracle to my p5 and p8 and its incredible OS upd: 2 month later - batterylife perfect! eSIM supports, banking apps, NFC pay works fine! :) incredible OS.
@azazel9829
2 күн бұрын
How you managed to get nfc payments work?
Pretty good setup ngl.
Great video.
Thanks for the thorough video. How is the file management/ directory structure? Is it the same as standard android? I do a lot of file management on my phone via the command line and the hierarchy android establishes is just a mess. Especially if you have an external SD, it's a needle in the haystack to find downloaded files, app files, etc. Hoping graphene fixes some of this.
Great review! I hate that my pixel busted. However ,mine was a pixel 3a and GrapheneOS ran rather clunky.
How is basic systeem functionality? Can you use the camera and does the camera work like default Google OS? usually the camera is quite limited in functionality on a custom os? Battery life?
You can change Gallery and Calendar orange icons to matching other dark Graphene OS icons 😎
Thanks 😊 really
Can you put the list in description? I'd like to have it as a reference.
Great video was looking for more info on this OS and you gave it...thanks 👍
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
How do you manage photos without iCloud or Goggle Photos? Do you have a cloud or backup service?
Stupid question, but how different are the SMS and phone apps for Graphene? Does the OS make any difference in the audio quality for a call?
Not using dark mode, tsk tsk, kinda sus 😀 Jk, thanks for this, it was VERY informative as I begin my switch from a google-less LOS over to Graphene
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
:D haha! Hopefully you like it if you make the switch. Other than KZread (for this hobby of mine), it has been nice moving away all of my personal stuff from Google. I used to use Gmail, Google Contacts, Google Calendar, etc. It's been a fun experience making the switch and still a journey for me finding/exploring new alternatives (trying for as much open-source and community audited, since open-source doesn't mean anything if the code is not being scrutinized by many) as possible. Let me know if you ended up making switch!
would be nice if there was an alternative to regular password input on powering up. something like being able to bind several codes to terminating all data instead of unblocking a phone
Great video. I plan on trading my iPhone 13 pro max for a pixel 7 soon
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
Hey, what is the difference between using Telegram X Secure Chat and Signal?
Does banking apps work and safetynet passes on this rom brother
whats the boot time on this thing? from holding until being able to go into one app.
Do you nowadays prefer droid-ify or Neo Store?
Any specific reason for leaving Bitwarden as a password manager? Awesome review!
@amc85
6 ай бұрын
I guess I should have waited to you finish your thought on the Password Manager. Got my answer! Thanks!
That's it I'm getting a 6A tomorrow
Good Video
Good content a lot of information, keep up the work. Thank you!
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
You drive a Tesla, your phone doesn't spy on you but your car does.
How to change the ringtone on user profiles because the system just does not want to change it even to the ones that come with it. On the owner profile is possible but any other user has the ringtone changed to the "Castor" notification sound and it is very, very annoying! I wouldn't mind it but it is too quiet single note sound and I can barely hear it if I'm outside with max volume on the ringtone. Is there any possible way to change it because it really bugs me. I have to stay on the owner profile in order to hear if anyone is calling me. The strange thing is the notification sounds are NOT affected, only the ringtone. It might be a bug but seriously it is very annoying.
You are probably hearing this question but is there a workaround for nfc pay not working?
hey) what case you use in this vid? thx
Fantastic video -- i have a question or two for clarification. I can see you have the "Facebook family" of apps in one of the profiles. How do you go about installing those, and are notifications from those apps available to you regardless of what profile you're in? So for e.g., if you're in your main privacy focused profile, do you still get push notifications for, say, FB Messenger messages when it's installed in the "social" profile you set up? And I guess I would ask that same question of WhatsApp too (though I don't think you have that installed). If I want to ensure I get WhatsApp push notifications at all times, regardless of what profile I'm in, is it possible to do this? Or do I have to switch to the profile that the app is installed in?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! There is a setting where you can get notifications from different profiles sent to the profile you are working in. However, I haven't tried it as I like to not have notifications personally. Rather than notifications getting pushed to me, I go in and check everything manually. Keeps me from getting distracted, but I know that might not work for everyone. Sorry I couldnt answer this one but hopefully someone else can chime in!
Can you use banking apps on graphene safety?
When a device loses support from graphene os devs, does that mean I no longer can have the flashed rom on the phone or is it simple not advised? Thanks, super video! 😊
@Slaize
Жыл бұрын
Just means it won’t receive any future updates or fixes.
@mr.turcotte5892
Жыл бұрын
@Jesse Phoenix Yes
@emptybottle1200
5 ай бұрын
u can still
I have a Pixel 7 w/GrapheneOS installed. Is there a tracker such as Samsung Smart tag that is compatable ?
I see that you have signal I been having it two years after it came out. Quic question is signal better than telegram on privacy?
Do Signal push notifications work with GrapheneOS? Don't you need Google framework/play services or MicroG for live push notifications?
@SamAtAstrocraft
Жыл бұрын
They do. When you first launch the app it will detect that Play Services aren't available and prompt you to allow unrestricted battery access. I believe it uses websockets instead of Play Services. However from my experience on a Pixel 4a this absolutely nukes battery life. I'm talking ~30% battery usage just from Signal idling overnight. I love everything else about Graphene but this one issue forced me to switch to Calyx + microG, it was a genuine deal breaker. Oddly enough I only seem to be able to find scattershot evidence of others having the same problem. Not sure if it had to do with my model, if people are just fibbing, or what. I tried reinstalling the app from different sources and even completely reinstalling Graphene but the issue persisted. Meanwhile on Calyx + microG the drain is negligible.
@acehoodman
Жыл бұрын
@@SamAtAstrocraft Thanks for your answer. I think for most people "Sanboxed Google play services" is the way to go. With my Pixel 5 I'm getting over 8 hours display time where I watch ~6,5 hours youtube videos/shorts. I haven't tried CalyX with MicroG yet as I'm quite happy with GrapheneOS so far!
@higherup9862
Жыл бұрын
@@SamAtAstrocraft Because people don't turn it on. They open signal when they feel like it and respond if needed. Molly FOSS is better tho.
How did you get colors ?? For icons . I thought graphene OS has no colors ,!
I have at&t prepaid. Would I be okay if I installed this or does it even matter?
Good morning Is there an app that resets the phone if there are several false unlock codes?
i have two samsung 2/16 phones from 2016 - can i put it there?
Hi, I saw it Naomi Brockwell and it only works with Pixels and not with others and you have to register on your site for privacy issues or something else, is that right for you?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Yes it only works with Pixels...but no, you don't have to register the device.
What apps does it come with for texting?
I am planning to get pixel 8 pro so that I can get grapheneOS. I am just wondering if my Banking apps work with it.
I have purchased a new Google Pixel 7 Pro 12GB of ram with 512 GB memory storage. I cannot pick up incoming phone calls from primary profile on GrapheneOS. When I am on my owner profile, I see the call, hear the ring tone but the "switch to profile" button is unresponsive. so why is this happening. I hope this makes some sense and I am not littering this space too much. Any ideas/help is much appreciated.
Does GrapheneOS vanadium or lineageOS only works with certain phone models, or any models including Samsung S23 ultra?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
GrapheneOS is only supported on Google Pixel phones. I'm not sure about lineageOS.
Sooo. If you don't have the Google Play Store installed, how did you start installing apps? There doesn't appear to be any other way to install apps on my Pixel 6a install of GOS.
@Rammer_Jammer
4 ай бұрын
Aurora store gets you everything that the play store gets & more.. look up how to set it up
I tried Organic maps. I could never understand how to use it. I even tried watching KZread videos on it and still never understood it.
What version of pixel would you recommend and say is the the best for grapheneOS?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
I think the Pixel 6 is a good value right now. You can find an unlocked refurb unit on Amazon for low $200s. I currently use a Pixel 5, but Security Updates/Support is ending October of this year.
@nem7281
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder yea Im probably go with 6a cus the updates and support will last up till 2027.. Thanks for a quick reply mate
Is it true that there is no Adaptive Charging on GrapheneOS? Therefore the battery should be on 100% over hours during sleep, which would decrease battery health quicker than necessary. Charging and unplugging before sleep is possible but inconvenient with 10% battery consumption per night on a Pixel
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
3 ай бұрын
Hi! You are correct, GrapheneOS does not have adaptive charging.
I love ProtonMail but I hate that it doesn't show notification without Google Play Services.
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
8 ай бұрын
True, but for me, I’ve learned to live the “pull” lifestyle where I check email when I have the time. Helps my phone not being blown up with notifications 😄
Is it possible to buy an unlocked google pixel phone and install graphene os myself, or is it better to buy one that comes all set-up? I mean, I know it's possible to install it myself, but will it work just as good as this one?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
9 ай бұрын
It’s always best to install it yourself imo. Having someone else or another company do it for you, you would be putting trust that they did not mess with the OS.
12:59 is what I wanted to see... They went with the wretched inefficient quick settings icons instead of the more efficient space saving ones.
How do you back up your MFA token generators?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/gICgss2sadOvqMo.html This video that I made for transferring tokens between profiles applies to how I backup. I backup to two usb drives that I keep in a safe place. So if my phone dies, I just restore from that usb drive.
@hambroman
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Excellent, thank you!
how can change font in graphenos ?
Can you also do this on the pixel 6 or pixel 7?
@ThunderFarter
11 ай бұрын
I can.
Love Graphene, faster, and supposedly the sandbox prevents google services from sending their tracking info to their urls, or maybe I misread.
Microsoft has a tendency to throw some propriety file extensions into Word and Excel that might not be readable by other programs.
Have u noticed a decrease in the amount of schooling you do on social media since switching ?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
I am on social media way less....but to be honest, now spend more time on NewPipe. At least I'm learning haha :)
Surprised to see you have Facebook Lite and Messenger. Doesn't that mean that they have access to your phonebook contacts?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
It probably would have access. However this is why I install these in a separate profile that is sandboxes from my main profile with my information.
@lessonsalongmyjourney4660
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder So to clarify, that means that you can simply have Facebook in a profile that doesn't have any contacts in the phone book? How about location? I saw that you occasionally turn on your global location services setting.
@unicornhuntercg
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Why don't you just use the browser version of facebook ? That's how i use twitter
Ya may wanna reconsider Proton apps...
@ivar-the-terrible
3 ай бұрын
Why?
Do you still recommend getting the Pixel 5 for Graphene OS?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Pixel 5 security support will be ending soon. I'd recommend getting Pixel 6 to have security patches for next several years. Right now used ones are good value.
@Icarusz7
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder Aha, thanks for ur response!
How do you make your contactless payments ? How do you convince all of your friends to switch to Signal?
@AI.Overlord.X
2 ай бұрын
Everything works now. This video is a year old..
ееееееееееее - гледао сам већ - али то ради само на гоогле телефоне - а док кажеш гоогле мени се гади
I would Love to have a Graphene OS for desktop, like windows or linux based, or even android as long as it works well with desktop like a chromebook
Do you play any games on your phone?
@kevinwong_2016
2 ай бұрын
I don't think he does💀
May I ask, is it possible to run Kali Linux kernel with grapheme os?
@bckends_
8 ай бұрын
No, maybe if you can dual boot somehow
I love Organic Maps. I use it completely off-line with excellent search results. Oh, and the graphics are so pleasant... Loaded via F-Droid. -- in EU no less.
Hi I wonder how to install GrapheneOS on Android phones like, Samsung, Xiaomi, etc? Is it compatible? I am very keen to install GrapheneOS onto my Xiaomi 11T pro! Thanks
@Pinko-Diamond
Жыл бұрын
those phones doesn't have various developer tools that pixel has. Mainly the ability to relock the boot loader. Pixel also gets faster security updates from Google. no privacy without security
brother i have a question can i install it on my redme note 9 pro devices
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
7 ай бұрын
No, just on Google Pixel devices.
this does not sit on top of the pixel android os does it? this is a true os replacement.?
@dialecticalmonist3405
Жыл бұрын
It is a fork of the Andoid OS. Android is an open source project that is not run by Google. Google installs their particular version of Android which requires their google services background app to run many of their apps, but the phone hardware itself interfaces with the open source Android platform.
@jmodic
Жыл бұрын
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Thank you!
curious but does your protonmail's notification work since you do not have gsf installed?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Push notifications does not work for me. You have to use the “pull” method where you open the app whenever you want to fetch new mail. I have learned to live with this and actually prefer it now since I’m not bombarded and distracted by each notification. However, this might be a deal breaker for some. Even with GSF, notifications does not work for me.
@valiantzest
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder configured it and it works with play store downloaded!
Unless we can create private apps and get the whole world to switch platforms i dont understand whats the point? you basically have a super private calls, txts, and email, i guess internet too but might as well just use a nokia brick or older phones that dont have the trackable hardware or use burners and disconnects everything manually? And then graphene only runs on google devices which i find odd, like u dont think google built in backdoors to their stuff idk it is all a bit above my head so im trying to learn more. Just seems to me in this day and age if a govn. LVl type agency wants to find and get into your stuff...they can.
*can use whatsapp or KZread?*
Anyone know if Grapheneos on Pixel 6a will work with Metro by Tmobile?
@Pinko-Diamond
Жыл бұрын
service company doesn't matter
are you still using your graphene OS?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
5 ай бұрын
Yup, been on GrapheneOS for 2 years now! Still using it as my primary device.
why did you drop bitwarden?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Keepass is completely offline, and I wanted to try to manage my own password database. I've been doing it for about 6 months now and have been enjoying the process. But that's about it, I absolutely love bitwarden and still trust it. I believe you can self host bitwarden too, but never tried it. Keepass is just very easy, so no need to try something else.
Grafeno hasta en la sopa..
But i dont have the finger backe side
Can I use crypto ledger app in this OS ?
@FuckTheState
Жыл бұрын
I hope you have the keys to that wallet. If not, it’s pure cringe.
man why would you show your totp codes. someone can use those to figure out your seed.
Mr. Privacy, can u tell me, why would GrapheneOS Trust the HARDWARE of google? do u know for a fact, that the hardware is not "tracking/spying" on u? long ago i saw even the cpu chip makers put some "backdoors" into their chips.. i dno man, feels littlebit strange..
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Here’s a good interview for why GrapheneOS chooses Google Pixel devices. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZ-FwbF8qtiyfso.htmlfeature=shared I trust GrapheneOS and if they chose pixel devices, then I’m okay with their judgement. As an average user, it’s way above my understanding and I have to trust these projects. It’s way better than using iPhone or Stock Android imo 😀
Hello :) Can you tell me when Graphene OS support ends for Pixel 5? With a view to buying, does it make sense in your opinion to buy it, or is a device like pixel 6a better? Thanks
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
I think going with a Pixel 6 right now is the best bang for your buck. I saw on Amazon last week they had a refurbished one in excellent condition for around $220. Plus starting at Pixel 6 there are doing 5 year support from the date of release, that's great! I personally don't mind refurbs as the flashing process completely reinstalls the OS anyways, and I've always had good experience :)
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
The Pixel 5 will lose support in October 2023 this year I believe. So I’m comfortable using it until then. Once it loses security updates, I’m changing to a Pixel 6.
@ThroughDarknessComesLight
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrivacyWayfinder would you recommend me use it for like another 1year after october ?
Hi, can you use KZread premium on graphene?
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
9 ай бұрын
Yes, but you would need to download Google Play Services in order for the KZread app to be functional. I personally use NewPipe as an alternative to the KZread app.
i wish i could use this on my samsung a32 xd
Why do you use password managers. They are an obvious & easy line of attack. Why not just use something like supergenpass that requires zero apps, zero backups, zero effort? One of the biggest improvements you can make to your security situation is to migrate to supergenpass and avoid password managers all together. Nothing to save, nothing to backup, nothing that can get compromised.
Can you install external apk files in this OS
@kevinwong_2016
2 ай бұрын
Yes💀
I bought an oppo find x5 about 6 months ago and was debating whether to install graphene and in the end I didn't. But its an idea that I keep returning to - do you think there would still be a benefit to me installing graphene on the phone even though I've used it for 6 months now?Just wondering what you think!
@papeter910
Жыл бұрын
Only google pixel phones can run GrapheneOS. You will have to find another android ROM.
you are not in control of your data (passwords) if you write it down all in one place. just think a password generating technique unique to you based on the websites you use and youll never need a pass manager software ever again
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Nice, kudos to you if your using that method! I tried and just couldn’t keep up with Special Character requirements each service. Like if one service doesn’t allow the special character combination that I normally use. Then I had to remember which sites needed different special characters. So didn’t work for me, but awesome if you’ve found a good method!
@bryce-bryce
3 ай бұрын
Why not combine a password manager and then always prepend a prefix that only you know and that is unique to the website? Or combine passwords from two different PW managers?
@johnmachter40
3 ай бұрын
@@bryce-bryce good idea
You care about privacy but still drive Tesla...
@purecountry6672
Жыл бұрын
Both can be true. Handing over the location of your vehicle is a far stretch from giving away access to your smart phone.
@chukwu_9
Жыл бұрын
Ohh no they know what grocery store he went to. Isn’t like there’s cameras taking pictures of the license plates every second
@levszostak7494
Жыл бұрын
You can just disable it's LTE and WiFi modems and it will be a regular off-grid car.
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
@@purecountry6672 I believe the concern is more referring to how tesla is looking into making the car auto repo itself.
@FuckTheState
Жыл бұрын
@@chukwu_9 well, I don’t want them knowing what grocery store I went to and alleged stationary cameras taking pictures of your plates aren’t as bad of a privacy violation as a GPS tracking you constantly. Furthermore, the fact our privacy is aready being violated isn’t justification for further violations. Would you accept to be r4aped a second time because you were r4ped the forst time?
oh, wait, the privacy guy that uploades all personal data to davos servers in Switzerland that is up to date with 'immunizations' has a Tesla. 🤣🤣
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
3 ай бұрын
:D
Bromite is dead and actually vulnerable now. I switched to "mull" (on f droid)
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Can you share the vulnerability details and maybe a link to a report? I do see that the app was not updated since Dec 2022, so I'm truly interested to learn more. Thanks!!
@ThePrivacyWayfinder
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes I see that now. Thanks for the heads up!
@12:41 your IP address is visible…?
Does organic maps need a SIM card to work? It doesn't seem to find me with Wifi only (Airplane mode on)
@t7a9
Жыл бұрын
you may have turned off network permissions too early, you need to download maps first then feel free to turn them off