Thank you for sharing!

@W7DSY

7 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Arizona - - the place where God shows off...! Thanks for sharing.

@W7DSY

2 жыл бұрын

Sure!

Some great shots of the canyon at the end.

@W7DSY

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's a special place.

That view is breaktaking! You think there will Still be too much snow in mid May? 😄 also is the turn off for the trailhead where the paved turn out is? Google maps is hard to tell

@W7DSY

Жыл бұрын

I would suggest you call the North Rim people. I just read somewhere today they have pushed back opening day account excessive snow still on the ground. I believe it is the 2nd largest snowfall since recording began. Good luck!

@jonnytacooutdoors

Жыл бұрын

@@W7DSY oh so can I not apply for a permit right now? Or is the north rim highway closed still.

I lived on the N Rim from 1982 to 1986. I remember walking out to Pt Sublime in '83. I didn't have a vehicle that could do it. So I walked. 22 miles, as I recall. However, when I got about 11 miles in a NPS ranger came upon me in his firefighter vehicle and asked me where I was going. "Pt Sublime" "can I see your permit?". Obviously I was on an overnight plus. I confessed that I didn't have a permit. After some tense moments he invited me to have a partial ride there. Wow, sure! We came to a place called milk creek where I intended to refill my canteen. As I was fixin' to refill, the ranger stops me and says, "look I have some water you can have, that doesn't look so good". And it didn't. Milk Creek had a name for a reason. He filled my canteen from his well supplied truck. So cool. Long story short, he took me to Pt Sublime and said, "look, I didn't bring you here", "yup I get it". That night I slept on the very point. The next morning I climbed down to the ruins near there, and then walked the 22 miles out. LONG walk. But so totally worth it! Many years later, oh I would guess 1992, I drove out there in my two wheel drive 1972 International Travelall. I had in-laws and several small children ages 7-12. Shoot, not advised. We broke down at the very spot in the video that was called a very nice view. And sure enough it is!! But the Travelall wouldn't start again. After a half hour of findlin' with it we thankfully got it going. (carburetor flap was stuck). With stress involved we got her going and out to the point. I plan to have my ashes spread there. (don't tell the NPS) My favorite place on Earth.

@W7DSY

Жыл бұрын

Kevin, thanks for your input. Yes, I'm sorry my wife & I didn't spend the night out there. It is perhaps the best view of the canyon there is. As I mentioned in the video, some of the trip out there was familiar--after all those years. The major difference was that the road in in 1966 came off the main park road within sight of the entry kiosk. THAT was a major change, & I'm sorry I couldn't see that part of the road. As an aside, when I worked @ the north rim, it was like a paid vacation. I just didn't know it because I was only 17.

I worked on the South Rim (tour bus) in the summer of 1963 but didn't get to the North Rim until much later. I thoroughly enjoyed sitting on the rim in the early morning or evening.

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

You're one of the few who worked at one or the other rims with whom I have had contact. I did find another person who worked at the North some years before me. I think of my time there as a paid vacation.

My dad, mom, and I lived in Page, AZ from 1972-1978 and I remember dad taking me hunting for mule deer on the North Rim when I was in my teens. I'm 60 y.o. now (born in 1959) but I don't remember where on the North Rim he'd take us. It required a 4X4 Dodge truck, that we camped in and sometimes there was snow on the ground. I'm pretty sure it was some busted up survey road well before the Grand Canyon lodge at the end of highway 67, but I don't remember where. I do remember that it required some pretty good off roading in the four wheel drive. Dad passed away about 10 years ago now so I didn't get a chance to ask him where he took me during these hunts but I remember the adventures in my mind. Your video helped me relive some of this because that country looks just like I remember.

@W7DSY

4 жыл бұрын

A pretty good chance it was Point Sublime, though there are other remote camping areas. Thanks for responding.

@edizzle2427

3 жыл бұрын

That was a beautiful story, Wade.

What a beautiful spot. Definitely wanna check it out now.

Fantastic Video! Thank you for sharing.

Those were some amazing views of the canyon.

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

That's a special place. You shd try to make it if you can.

This is a fantastic video. Was lucky enough to visit Point Sublime about 20 years ago; the ride in looked unchanged since I was there. Binge-watching your videos.

@W7DSY

4 жыл бұрын

Thankfully, the road out is rough, and the place is not well known. Keeps the average person away. I hope to go again some day.

Nice video, it inspired me to make the drive a few weeks ago. We drove it in a 2015 Ford Escape 4wd. A couple in a Jeep said "you drove out here in that?" No problems, just took it nice and slow.

@W7DSY

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's quite a feat. Not sure I would have attempted. However, good driving does play a major part in making it through. On our return trip, we came across an abandoned Volvo 4WD wagon that didn't make it up a hill. When we got back the gas station operator said the guy's wife was hot enough to melt steel! Then they had to call a tow truck out of Jacob Lake. Glad I didn't get that bill.

I camped at Indian Hollow, a few miles west of here. A magical place.

@W7DSY

4 жыл бұрын

My first and only previous visit was in 1966 after H.S., and like I mentioned in the video, it was strange how some of it looked familiar.

One of your best! Greetings from the Netherlands.

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Hiho! Always nice to hear from people in Europe.

My first time there was in the mid '80's. Back then, they actually kept the road fairly well graded, though it did have some very steep hills, and it was doable with a standard car (though I actually drove it in an old Scout II). I was last there in October 2019, in a stock 4WD Nissan Frontier (their smaller pickup), and had no trouble driving it in that, but did use 4 lo much of the way. You don't really need a lifted or modified rig to to it, but I would recommend a 4wd pickup or SUV with decent clearance. Low range is probably not absolutely necessary, but desirable. Point sublime, IMO, is by far the best place to view the Grand Canyon from either rim. You can see a large part of the canyon from there, as well as the surrounding area, including the San Francisco Peaks near Flagstaff. Also an outstanding place for stargazing, with an unobstructed view of the whole sky, and very dark sky at high altitude.

@jessstone7486

2 жыл бұрын

Guess my lil' Honda Accord ain't the car to do this ride...:)

@W7DSY

Жыл бұрын

Nope

The only thing I can think of in the area smaller than bison but darker than deer would be wild turkeys. I saw a flock of turkeys the last time I was there, just a little before where you break out of the forest near the point.

Thank you so much for this video! Really helps us know what to expect. (If it's dry at least. 😊)

@W7DSY

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, if it has been raining, be careful. Check with the ranger station. You have to register at the campground.

Nice video. Do you think it is possible to haul a 16' RV to Point Sublime? Thanks.

@W7DSY

14 күн бұрын

I do not think so.

“Your way is lined with heavy growth of the Kaibab Forest,” longtime editor Raymond Carlson wrote in the September 1941 issue of Arizona Highways. “Pine trees cluster about your path, shouldering each other to get a better look at you. You come across small meadows, where a deer will look up, almost annoyed by the intrusion. Flowers carpet the forest, having a high old time in the sunlight."

@W7DSY

4 жыл бұрын

Take a deep breath and make the short but harrowing ride out to the point. “Out there,” Mr. Carlson wrote in 1941, “is a view of the Grand Canyon you’ll see from no other place but Point Sublime.” Sublime is certainly one of the words that’ll come to mind. Stunning, spectacular, sensational ... those will occur to you, too. It’s a payoff that’s worthy of the drive that takes you to it."

@fitnesslikeaburch5810

4 жыл бұрын

Hidden Arizona thank you for the reply. We are going at the end of May. Looking for a good spot to camp that’s away from everyone. The camper is 18 ft and has 10” of clearance so maybe I will risk it.

Didn't anyone else notice the coffin at 1:41?

@GratefulOverlander

Жыл бұрын

I saw that off to the right. I thought the same thing. Looked like an above ground coffin with a wooden headstone

I have an AWD Honda CRV. Is it possible to "stradle" the ruts by riding on the high middle section (between the ruts) and the ground outside of the ruts in the few places where it seems necessary? I don't want to be the next Volvo, but I'm pretty decent about picking a path to keep from bottoming-out.

@W7DSY

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that would be advisable. However, road conditions change year-to-year, week-to-week, so I would inquire locally when you are ready to make the trip. I am not very familiar w/the CRV, but my first thought is that is it would take an expert driver to make it through with your vehicle.

How far did you have to air down your tires? What are you driving? Do you need to air them down on the alternative route?

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

I aired down to 20#. ON the alternate you should air down as well.

I am bringing the family to see point sublime. Do you think I can get a 4x4 and small camper up the road?

@W7DSY

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's open yet, and later, it will depend upon snowfall, etc. Best bet is to go mid-to-late summer, when everything has dried out. No problem w/4x4, the rest wd depend on the camper--smaller the better. You will have good travel most of the way exc for a few rough up/downhill segments. I would not be too afraid w/a smaller tent trailer. Travel trailer wd be a different story, account clearances in some areas. might want to leave the trailer and take your sleeping bags and a tent. Great camping @ the end of the trail, and @ least one place abt 2/3 of the way in.

Thank you for the video. Did you have to engage the 4wd at any point? & What did you air down the tires to?

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, not a lot, but several sections required 4WD. Tires down to 20#. BTW, a guy in a Volvo station wagon (4WD) thought that wd be sufficient to get through, ended up paying for a vry expensive tow out of there. I would have helped, but he was gone when I got there. Ah, Well.

@jrbling25

3 жыл бұрын

@@W7DSY Sometimes its hard to tell from video alone, but curious if you could give more description of the technical obstacles that required you to go into 4WD? Was it muddy, steep inclines, off-camber sections, rock crawling, etc? Looked like amazing trip!

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

@@jrbling25, off-camber up/downhill sections with deep ruts caused some anxious moments. One in particular was when we were coming out, a 4wd Volvo station wagon (!) abandoned off to the side. He apparently got down OK, but not enough juice/clearance to get up. And then a few fairly steep sections.

@jrbling25

3 жыл бұрын

@@W7DSY Thanks appreciate it! am making this trip in just a couple of days and its helpful to know what we might run into. I am not worried but someone else in our party is taking an outback, i suspect that with careful driving they should be ok.

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

@@jrbling25 With careful driving and skill. Should be wary of bottoming out.

Looking to go mid October, and this looks like an amazing spot. I’ve read you have to have a backcountry permit for some places. Is this one of them?

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

As I recall, you need to check in with the ranger kiosk at the campground, and then you're good to go. Best to line it up as soon as you get there. October is getting kind of late. If there's snow, they will likely close the road.

@vijayanchomatil8413

3 жыл бұрын

Only if you're camping.

@russlehman2070

2 жыл бұрын

You need a backcountry permit to camp there (or did when I visited in 2019). I don't think you need a permit to drive out there if you don't camp.

Did you saved the air so you could put it back in?

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

I carry a compressor.

@MrAvjones

3 жыл бұрын

@@W7DSY Im sure you did, just a little humor. Never been west of the Mississippi River except for Vietnam. Good to see what the rest of American looks like.

Do you think my stock 4Runner will make it?

@W7DSY

3 жыл бұрын

I think it wd do fine, as long as you are careful picking through the ruts and go easy. Of course, the road changes year to year, but other wise fine.

@russlehman2070

2 жыл бұрын

I did it in a stock Nissan Frontier. I think a stock 4Runner would be good.