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@carmenmariacortesmarin2664

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@brianturck274

4 ай бұрын

I have purchased land in North Florida west of Gainesville and have similar issues with using my property for intended purposes .... My question is, couldn't you ask the county for a variance to build a second home on your 19+- acres... after everything you have done to get to where you are, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't consider it...

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

We will cover that in an upcoming video!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your support!

@GrammyTammy13

3 ай бұрын

#Dossfarms just told us to stop by and say Hello to you guys So Hello 👋 New sub

If you own 19-20 acres and can’t build 2 homes in it there’s a major problem. That’s ridiculous

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

It's kinda crazy. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

@BobbyCole-nu7tq

24 күн бұрын

Lot

@AlternativeHomesteading

22 күн бұрын

It sounds like your local principalities are trying to control you and your property and what you do there. I have heard this from so many people so many homesteaders online it’s absolutely unbelievable.

@jwhiskey242

20 күн бұрын

Its a density issue and Florida is being ruined by development.

@2015_Rubicnn

5 күн бұрын

Where I live in California on 3 acres, we were able to have 2 dwellings on that property.

I have built over 40 homes in Northwest Florida and very much understand how the building departments can be. A solution to your situation would be to connect the two homes with a open walkway on the plans. that would make the two houses one dwelling. after the house is built and inspected, and you have your certificate occupancy, you can take down that walkway and have two homes.

@NoxiousWZRD

Ай бұрын

You could also connect the detached garage and dream home with a covered walkway and, as long as it’s still over 3200 square feet, that should take care of the issue as well.

@IyseHexxo-br8uo

2 күн бұрын

​@@NoxiousWZRDI have no experience in construction but I was thinking the same thing. I also considered if using a greenhouse instead of walkway is a good idea.

A true example that we own nothing, we just rent.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

facts! Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

@godbluffvdgg

Ай бұрын

You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

@an-alechianeathery770

Ай бұрын

The state owns everything besides the government. I see why these people don't want us to pay off anything. So these same people can have someone come out take it's, have the IRS/ uncle Sam at our throat. The only thing we own is ourself. Like saying my saying, " we're all born with nothing, and we die with nothing." Because the government will try to take or take it.

@jwhiskey242

20 күн бұрын

@@godbluffvdggyour tinfoil is showing. Watch out for the black helicopters.

Another option that occurred to me is will your neighbor sell you .5 acre or whatever you need to be a full 20? Just a thought.

@brendabeckley558

4 ай бұрын

and then later on you can sell it back to the neighbor if they want

@levans3447

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking same thing . In that situation, would happily do that for a neighbor.

@kathyradatz3856

4 ай бұрын

That was my first thought also

@shellieb.7603

3 ай бұрын

Same, this was my first thought. As small town, they may be willing to let go .5 acres. Especially, the neighbor with 1,600 acres. But their work around sounds good too.

@rosesone2833

3 ай бұрын

I thought,slept the property in two, and sell it to your inlaws, have your wife be the beneficiary in their will. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Now you have two ten acres and can build everything you need. 😂 Use one of the ten acres for a campground. You can't have enough campgrounds in FL

Go before the Zoning Board of Appeal and request a variance.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

They didn't offer that as an option. We will ask. Thanks for watching.

@masman414

5 ай бұрын

This process happens often in my jurisdiction. I would pursue it. The couple who never took a chance, never had a chance!

@gnalredliriodendron

4 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Not sure the rules there, but there may be a process to request a zoning variance. It's pretty common in most places with zoning regulations.

@masman414

4 ай бұрын

In our jurisdiction, client proceed through the Metropolitan Planning Commission. Your area may call it something different.

@mafp22w

4 ай бұрын

@@PineyGroveHomestead Men and women are different. If you go to a woman planner, she will fully comply with the rules. A man will try to think creatively think of how to solve the problem. Sorry gals, but while there may be exceptions, this is generally true. I have the same issue in a rural Arizona county. None of the neighbors would have an issue with it, but the county can’t possibly think for a second that they are there to SERVE the public.

@PineyGroveHomestead extend the house which you built for your parents; either sharing the walls somehow, or place your house right next to it with a beautiful room connecting them into one house.. and then it becomes one house - one enormous house.. with a large room between - could make it a nice shared space full of plants that might shut planning up lol

@quantumleap7441

20 күн бұрын

My exact thought

Have you ever heard of Grandfather Clause. This sounds like a perfect example of the clause, you gave the county a site plan with everything on it, they made the option of removing the main house with the option of adding it back when you were ready to build, then codes changed. If you can prove the original terms in that meeting, sounds like you might have option to do the original plan.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

We have proof via email but it didn't change anything. New video coming out soon to update the situation.

@Jack-jp6ki

21 күн бұрын

​@@PineyGroveHomesteadyou guys said that certain things weren't disclosed to you before hand. Thats a direct violation of the consumer protection laws.

@jwhiskey242

20 күн бұрын

@@Jack-jp6ki Nope. The rules changed before they built. It happens all the time. What is no problem today is an issue next week. In my county all new home construction now needs to have very expensive systems to control water runoff. Not the case 20 years agon when I built.

Here in Citrus county Florida I have seen so many variances rubber stamped. Get a knowledgeable attorney and apply for a variance. Were rules changed after you land purchase ? If so you should be grandfathered in.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support!

Same EXACT thing happened to my wife and I in Columbia County, FL. They finally figured out a work around, but had to break some rules to get it done for us. Thank God we live in a rural County that had good people that made exceptions for us.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Glad it worked out for you! We'll update our situation soon! Thanks for watching.

@mommabear2544

4 ай бұрын

Columbia county is so disorganized. They can't make up their minds and the board of county commissioners can't get their act together.

@shelljw

3 ай бұрын

Then I bet they control your underpants forever... :-( So pleased that you got it figured out, and hope @PineyGroveHomestead gets it figured out too... (Im the annoying South Australian over from @DossFarms)

@davidgray1515

3 ай бұрын

No one should get exceptions. why do you deserve special treatment that others arent even offered?

@ubereats3048

Ай бұрын

This happens everywhere in almost every state.

I just learned the hard way too here in NC. Wanted to put a modular on a small corner of my 90 acres. There had been singlewides and 2 abandoned wells and septics but all removed in the 1980’s… so I went to get permits and was told no, only one dwelling. On 90 acres…. So had to subdivide and deed to myself to get it done… added 8 months to the simple process of bring family onto my land… i totally get ya, praying for you both.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

That makes zero sense since the dwellings happened anyways.....just added to you the cost of a survey and deeding for no reason! Crazy! Glad you found a solution.

@sarahs7253

23 күн бұрын

​@@PineyGroveHomesteadll about money.

I began asking our building dept if they can show me in the United States Constitution that they have the authority to tell me what I can and cannot do on my own property> Silence. You are the sovereign owner of that land so you need to tell them what your going to do. I built a large barn and a 2200sq ft house, the county attached a non compliance notice on my property but that is it. You do not need their permission. The constitution is there to protect we the people from an over reaching government.

@Gripmagic

3 ай бұрын

Except you're not the sovereign owner, stop paying the government their 'use fee' and watch how quickly they send the thugs with guns and badges to take it.

@bwtawny

3 ай бұрын

Try to sell that property later. It will be unsalavable and you may be racking up fines. One day they can auction your place out from under you.

@coldnorthAK

3 ай бұрын

The US Constitution directs and restrains the Federal gov. Your state and county gov fill in the void.

@TheGrateful108

3 ай бұрын

The only thing you can own in USA - your ability and the skill to speculate financially and evading the law legally. This is the most precious asset that is truly yours. Everything else is subject to change by the speculators on the top of food chain

@Harry777n

3 ай бұрын

AMEN AND AGAIN I SAY AMEN

Where I live we have the same roles. We had a similar issue. Our county includes covered walkways between sections of the structures. We added a covered walkway to our garage and a covered walkway to a gazebo. Maybe that can work for you and not need to change the buildings.

“ I’m from the government and I’m here to help” Ronald Reagan… The government is never there to help people they make everything worse.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

As you become an adult, you learn that never really "own" land...the government owns it! Thanks for watching.

@robs8882

5 ай бұрын

As I asked at the time, based on what? Saint Ronny ruined a lot and that phrase, based on nothing, didn’t help

@davefox8948

4 ай бұрын

All of this really sucks but nonetheless you two are still very blessed. Glad to see the shoulder is doing well.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

@@davefox8948 We will do a shoulder update video soon. Thanks for watching.

@marciemiller6250

4 ай бұрын

Although I have no plans to fence in my property, I would like to fence in some areas as well as put up a fence to create a buffer at the road. I found out that to do this, I would have to pull a permit and then hire a professional fence contractor to put up my fence. I have decided that instead of fencing that I’m going to use plantings to give me that buffer at the road. It isn’t as though I live in the city limits either. I purposely bought a couple of acres in the country. Sometimes I wonder why we are allowed to purchase land because it certainly isn’t ours. A can of worms that we will never find our way out of.

ALWAYS get a land survey and title search!

Just found your channel guys! I think I’ve spent 3 hours tonight watching y’all. Thank you for having us along for the ride!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! 2024 is shaping up to be the busiest year yet!!

Yup I see so many KZread's do this by a piece of land and then they can't build what they want to build because they didn't bother to check city ordinances. It's the first thing you check before you even look at buying land. Always buy land where you can build with no restrictions

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

In the video we explain how we did check. Thanks for watching.

@LivinToday.2

4 ай бұрын

We almost bought a beautiful piece of land in FL but it was just shy of the 2.5 acres needed to build. Researched the variance that also cost around $2500 and there is no guarantee it would be approved. Then we found out the county miss measured and the plot was actually 3.5 acres 😮 .5 is the road. THEN once we were going to move forward we found out that the lenders require a private road agreement that is nonexistent!!! We have passed on the property, meanwhile 20 acres away they are mowing down every tree to put in multi family! It all seems like a huge racket! Best wishes on your future plans, I’ll be watching. 🍀

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

@@LivinToday.2 Thank you!

@specialist4luciek425

3 ай бұрын

Or. After they buy, government makes changes

Please make sure to get from the county in writing that you can build the two car garages attached to the house and be counted as square feet of a home structure. Also get in writing that your parents home will be changed to a secondary structure or whatever needs to be. Have everything you need as far as proper paperwork ready before you build your home. I would make sure my parents home is changed before starting your own, and also that the county is not going to kick them out because they will be living in a secondary structure which usually means it is a structure for hay, farm equipment, animal's shelter and so on and so forth. Wishing you the best always.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

All great advice! We're working closely with the county on what we can, and can't do! Thanks for watching!

@OldIronAcres

5 ай бұрын

@@PineyGroveHomestead - - It's not a garage... It's your new editing bay, or a "kraft room"! ;-P

@sueellerson9395

3 ай бұрын

Praying for a happy ending.

Praying for a feasible outcome to the situation for everyone. Keep your heads up. Together you can get through it.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support!

Enjoyed your video as a new subscriber. So glad it’s going to get you to your dream home although it’s hard to absorb those extra costs. We’ve experienced those County codes or HOA changes, too. Hang on to your dream; it’ll definitely be worth pursuing. ! Came over from Doss Farms channel. Blessings from Virginia! 🌺

I feel for you! I live in California and deal with bureaucracy all of the time, like you, I understand the necessity of it, but I also know the miss information that comes out if it. In your case, how it changes ones life. Glad you figured a solution.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Here's the updated video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

We just bought 21 acres in north Texas. We want to do the same thing….get out of the city, build a homestead and live our best life. We are close to retirement and look forward to creating our dream property as you have. So glad we found your channel and look forward to following along! ❤

Here in Florida St Lucie County, AG 5 zoning 10.23 acres. We can have 1 home per 5 acres. that's terrible. Government overreach is getting out of control. Don't take what the first person says. Go higher up. Answer seems to change we've been through a lot of things.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

It all took us by surprise. Thanks for watching!

I just want to say thanks for the video, and your service. I posted it in my page, and sent to two sons that were raised here and both are doing great and looking to buy. Dad keeps telling them to buy land and build a warehouse first 😉. I think you oresented it all concisely in a pleasant listening experience. I have a/r property north of Tampa.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

"good judgement come from experience and experience comes from bad judgement" Thanks for the kind comment! Updated video coming soon.

This is my first visit to your channel. My son is in year 6 of the USAF and is currently cross training in Biloxi…so thank you for your service!! Ohhh and I’m in!! Subscribed to your channel!! ❤ Ohhhh, my sister in law built a home and a smaller mother-in-law house on the same property…they were only allowed it by having a large back driveway and then a “breezeway with sidewalk” attached to it in order to consider it part of the same “foot print.” That was their way of being able to have the separate structures but considered one footprint…

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Welcome! There are creative ways to get around the laws sometimes!

I went through a very similar situation in building on some family land in Indiana. The area plan commission is a nightmare to work with. However, there is some good hope for you. I have two suggestions: 1. Go back and talk to someone else. My experience is the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing in that office and if you speak to three different people then you will get three different answers. 2. If #1 doesn't work, hire a good land attorney from that county. They can make things happen that you can't. It will likely involve a variance but it could be easier than that. I think you can stick with your original plan by doing these two things. I would be glad to talk to you about how we had to do things.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the advice. It's a small county and there are 3 people in the office and we have communicated with all three. A variance or lawyer would likely cost more in money or time than adding a garage. We're working with the drafter and builder now to see how much this change will cost us. Thanks for watching!

@jrleininger4110

4 ай бұрын

@@PineyGroveHomesteadC.Y.A(cover your a##)continue with the plans ,but get on the waiting list for a surveyor and subdivide off the other house and deed it to his parents.If the law changes back again you will be left ripping down a house!

@KatMcLean-si3vs

3 ай бұрын

Wow! What a sucky situation. Prayers for God's hand in this and have Him sort it out!!! Prayers for health and safety!🙏❤️🙏

@TheDjcarter1966

Ай бұрын

​@@PineyGroveHomesteadjust weird for something like this being half an acre short on a nice parcel that isn't an eyesore you should be able to get a variance approved at the next zoning commission meeting

Here is a Clue... You are nothing but TAX Chattel. As a Resident of Northern Virginia, Loudoun County, I am quite familiar with the Virginia TAXES. If my children & grand children did not live here I would be in South Carolina. We just need more Government. The Government needs More of your Money, More Rules, & More Laws! That would solve all the Governments Problems.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

The Government sure likes to tax us, don't they. Thanks for watching!

@brianhillis3701

4 ай бұрын

So glad to get out of Fairfax County. Populated by government employees that believe in bigger government. They are bluer than blue. You could connect the two homes with a breezeway to make it "one home". Perhaps make the second home a pool house. Need a pool too.

@RideFree1

4 ай бұрын

@@brianhillis3701LOL... I hope you moved to a FREE State! It is sad what Virginia & the Country has become.

@RideFree1

4 ай бұрын

@@PineyGroveHomesteadThe sad part is they pizz it away paying off other countries, politicians, and BS Agencies that do nothing for the US Citizens. The US Government is INSANE.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

@@brianhillis3701 Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Howdy coming come the Doss family farm, sorry to first hear about the building code, n glad you are thinking out your options, good luck n GOD bless ❤❤❤❤❤❤

It's called an ADU ( accessory dwelling unit). Florida allows them no as long as the ADU is 50% smaller. Makes no difference which one is built 1st. I'm kinda surprised this was missed when looking at zoning. A quick look at property appraiser website would show how many units per acre.

We chose SC for our dream home. We bought 14 acres of cleared farmland. Our lot is practically flat, trees around the edges, no trrees anywhere else except all the fruit trees and nut trees we added. We built an amazing glass house with an incredible mountain view and added a small pond. We pay $100 a year for property taxes. Try that in Florida. If you decide to move, try SC.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

$100 a year...that's incredible. Thanks for watching.

@reddog3544

5 ай бұрын

Don't you pay taxes on your vehicles in SC?😎

@thebonestead

5 ай бұрын

We will probably be about $10k plus a year once our house is built.

@Chris_at_Home

4 ай бұрын

We build our own place in Alaska with views of the mountains in the east and west with a low horizon to the south. We only needed a driveway permit. Taxes are more than $100, but no sales or income taxes. We pay about $500 a year on a house the government appraises at about $300K , the real estate value is substantially more.

@hollisthomas8092

3 ай бұрын

Some counties in SC are much higher

Thank you for your transparency! I'm so sorry for the news, and I pray that things will turn around for you both. I am even more invested in your channel so I can see how the story turns out! Keep praying and God will turn it around for you both!

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

It will all work out, just not exactly the way we planned. Thanks for the support!

Bless your hearts! I’m proud our state there aren’t any laws about what you can and can’t build in the county.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Dang! What a pickle. I found your channel through Chad Doss, really late at night and I can tell I'll have to spend a while watching your videos to get up to speed. So... I subscribed. Will watch more in the coming days. God bless your efforts so far!

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Here's a recap video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X552qaeSesjHYbw.html

Deb and Brad, I cannot believe this is happening to y'all! 🙏 Praying it all works out. ❤

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, friend. One way or another, it will work out.

Wow!!! Wild journey you are on. Thank you for sharing. Praying for yall and hope your dream property still happens. Looking forward to the future updates

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! We will post updates soon!

Thank you so much for sharing the shocking news and for the heads up. Good luck! ❤

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Follow up video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Glad I ran across your channel! Thx for sharing your insight and experience.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. We've documented our progress since purchasing 6 year ago!

Add a second story den with guest room with a deck to overlook your property...that will add to the SqFt. Another added SqFt option would be to build an attached 3 car-garage with a small 'apartment' above it as to not take away from your original house plans for your children to visit. I'm glad you have options and I'm definitely going to use your experience when I shop for my property. Stay positive...you got this!

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. We linked a video in the comments about some other considerations for property buying.

When we were looking for land a month ago, we knew the florida requirement of one dwelling per 10 acres, in AG2. In one spot we were looking was a divided to 5 acre plot from 10acres in AG2. Too small for us, BUT a variance was an option. You can APPLY for a variance on this-it is an occupancy variance. There is also a florida law that you can only have so many out buildings per acre-but I think that is going to be repealed. In the meantime, you need apply for a variance. You may be turned down, but it is worth a shot. Another option-add on to the existing house.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

The "accessory structures" was a county limitation but it has since been repealed. We are working towards a solution. Thanks for watching!

I am a retired City Planner for a rural Arizona city. I have advised people with similar issues as you. Just be aware that codes are different in every city and county. Both the building and planning codes come into play in my suggestion in my city. Our zoning does not define what an "attachment" is. The building code does. In other words...if you left your garage where you originally planned it and connected it to the main house with either a beam...or beams with one or more posts...that would be considered an attachment. In another jurisdiction in California, a footing from the main house connected to the garage was considered a connection as well. I just saw your video tonight on 6/29/24...so I do not know how far you are along in your design process. If you wish to go to an extreme....you can construct the same type of connection to you parent's home to your dream home and make it one building!!!!!!! GO FOR IT! Check with your Building Department first before you speak to your planning department. I have always been an out-of-the box planner in assisting others...and came up with the above solution and it works i my City. Blessings!

Thanks, This information is very useful and stuff I would never have thought about before. I’m sorry for the hassle y’all are going through, praying everything works out for the best. Been looking at land for the past few months to find where I want to build my forever home.

same issues here in California. moving to Cresent Valley NV ... Eureka County.. no building division.. just septic and well permits through the state

Where I live in Calhoun County, Florida folks who live on 10 acres put 2 or 3 mobile homes on them and Tiny shed houses. The same 10 acre rule. I don't know how they get by with it. Your property is beautiful. I pray y'all get everything worked out.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Calhoun is a different county....not sure of their laws and land plan. And sometimes people just do things and don't ask and never get caught. We are not that lucky, so we try to do it right! Thanks for watching.

@RichardLisboa

5 ай бұрын

@@PineyGroveHomestead What I think is governament not have good sense at all, what half acre will do any difference in this kind size of land.

@RichardLisboa

5 ай бұрын

Also check what will be the taxes on a house of 3200 Sqft, all this will increase the living costs in the end with the attached garage.

@dinadaughtry8993

3 ай бұрын

What is wrong with 2-3 mobile homes on 10 acres, plenty space for that, use to live in Blountstown many years ago when I was in grade school with my uncle Homer who has passed away now, wasn't much to the town back then in the late 70s

❤Heard about you from Doss Farms. So so sorry for your government restrictions. As I am watching this I hope you will be able to petition for an exception permission. I will just have to continue to keep watching to see your outcome.

Subscribed, very interesting story. Government making everything complicated. We are in a similar position in Washington County Florida. The counties have different restrictions because we have 2.5 acres. We can "build" a second dwelling, but we can't bring in a pre-built. Even if it is a typical 2x4 wooden structure built off site exactly to the same design and trucked in. If we rezone to residential then we can. So, we are buying a really nice older 5th wheel camper. And when people come to stay with us, it be comes our guest house. We could add on to our existing house, but that is really expensive for reasons I won't get into. Good luck with your dream!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Hard to navigate the laws sometimes! Updated video coming soon!

Just a thought, I don't know if it would work for you. Build a large, attached carport, unheated, say for three vehicles. One side is house, one side is entrance, build a half-wall around the two open sides for esthetics. That would increase the home's footprint at minimal cost and the vehicles would be protected.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

Attached garage is the best option. Thanks for the suggestion.

So sorry that you guys are going through this. Would it be possible to purchase enough land from a neighbor to get you to the 20 acre threshold? Good luck.

@PineyGroveHomestead

5 ай бұрын

You would think that would work but they can only subdivide less than 10 acres if they are deeding to a relative. It's so complicated when it shouldn't have to be. Thanks for watching.

@Piney Grove Homestead. Submit a variance in front of the County PLANNING BOARD, then it goes to COUNTY COMMISSION in Florida. There is a fee for a variance. Best thing you can do is speak to your neighbors ahead of time and see if they will either testify at the hearing that they have no issue OR get a written letter signed and notified and read into the record by someone. Also, research all the variances in your area and have a list of them to submit to the county at the hearing, What about a barndominium?

@jodeming5088

Ай бұрын

Whaat an awesome idea. I sure wish them well.

I build houses on rural country acreages and it's frustrating because there are so many things to trip you up and the county doesn't always go out of their way to help you, it feels like they're more trying to stop you. Really they are in CYA mode because they have to follow some very specific and arcane rules put in place. It's really the zoning rules that drive up property prices, it creates an artificially low supply of buildable country properties. I've had to go in front of the county commission before with members of the public, aka neighbors. The majority of the neighbors were happy that I was going to replace an old rotten shop building with a nice new 1000 sf home, except for one lady who owned land in the neighborhood, but didn't want a new house built, just because. I did good approval because the county was supportive, that really helped. Good luck, stay positive!

You gotta love the power local government has. Y’all have a nice well maintained piece of land, zoning inspectors should drive down the road and force their will on the dumps that aren’t kept up. Good luck with your project!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

We agree! Thanks for watching.

@MrCheaterpipe

4 күн бұрын

They can't get money or compliance out of those people so they don't even try but somebody that looks like they might have a couple bucks to lose then they will absolutely shake you down

Hello from central Alabama. Doss family farms sent me over after telling a very small part of your home building problems and I am glad he did. It’s always nice to find another family that talks to Jesus and that is the main thing he said. Anxious to follow along on your journey! ❤️🙏

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Here's an intro video about us: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iomtstaAh72Zo9Y.html

@rhondaquinn649

3 ай бұрын

Here from Doss Farms. Praying all of this works out for you.

@davidgray1515

3 ай бұрын

These people are Doss fans. Now I understand why everything is so hard for them to figure out.

A good local realtor should have been able to help you with your purchase and let you know about the one home per 10 acres code. I'm glad you figured out a solution and can continue your dream.

okay, code planning issues. Got it. After watching the video, giving it a thumbs-up, started thinking about it. You need to add 1,100sf to your plans. A standard 2 car garage is 24 x24 =576sf. A standard 3 car garage is 24 x 36 = 1,296sf. Heating a garage is optional. When the cost of a detached garage is added to the overall cost, it doesn't make sense. I know you want what you want, I truly get that. As good people, you know that we make plans, and God may have other ideas. I am subscribing right now, with the full belief that y'all will make it work. Good fortune to you, and I look forward to watching the build.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

The original house is 2100 heated and cooled but it was a bit more with porches front and back so a 24x24 garage and patio gets us there. Thanks for watching. House plan video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6Gn08tmqrKcdNo.html

This is what us Americans mean its our hard earned money we own the property why the hell we alowing government to tells us what we can do and cant

Tyrannical government hard at work

I’m really sorry about the restrictions. We are also building a MIL suite on our property but in the way of a dog trot on the house vice two separate homes.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

There is something similar in Oregon where if you have 5-acres but less than 20 it’s considered farm forest and you can’t get a residential permit. You can build an agricultural building but that’s it. You can try to get the land rezoned but 5k is the minimum starting cost and it was pretty obvious that you better hire a land use consultant and getting your request approved is less than 50-50

I first learned of my hate for a governor when I was 6 years old and I heard it's the thing on my go cart that wouldn't allow me to go fast and I still have the same feeling for the governors of today for the most part

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Wasn't sure where you were going with that. Thanks for watching! We have posted an updated video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Government is too big now and all we do is keep voting them back in

This is the first I have listened to your channel. I was absolutely blown away by some of the issues you are now facing with your purchase of this property. I am a retired Real Estate Paralegal. Retired, in my case, means I worked for years in the real estate legal & construction side of land & construction investments. Both residential & commercial projects. I had to write this three times to tone down my commentary. Go back to the point where you two began and see where you missed out on "what you should have done". The answer is right there. I am sorry this is harsh.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

We'll be fine. Update coming soon.

I'm in michigan and went through a similar situation a couple years ago. I wanted to build a pole barn, but the township said my detached garage was an accessory structure as well as my deck, pool, and small greenhouse. We are only allowed 2,500 square feet of accessory structure REGARLESS of how much land you own. My solution was to connect my house to me detached garage thus making the detached garage a part of the primary structure. These zoning ordinances are way beyond protecting property values.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

One size does NOT fit all! Glad you got it resolved.

If we BUY LAND AND PAY TAXES 4EVER....IT IS NONE OF THE COUNTIES BUSINESS WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR PROPERTY.

@PinkieJoJo

21 күн бұрын

Nice thought but not true

I came here from Doss Farms. He said we need to come watch this video! Praying for you!!

Cus makes you feel good. Survey and knowledge is key.

Florida government has gone to hell since DeSantis.

@carolsisti7203

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I lived in Florida for 25 years and am apalled by the changes since Desantis. Ugh

@robl496

4 ай бұрын

Please let’s not be ignorant and make everything into politics. Rural / Agricultural zoning is managed by local governments. Seminole county ( Orlando area) has the same regulations (Part XXIV, § 2, Ord. No. 92-5, 3-30-92). These are old local regulations that applies to most Florida counties. For example Columbia county which is in northeven Florida. Ord. No. 2012-10, § 1, 10-4-12) See the dates??? 1991 and 2012 DeSantis was elected in 2019 … just for your information! There you go now you know actual facts!

@CM-sy3to

4 ай бұрын

Got to research the local lawmakers and get friends and relatives in local government offices.

@stevelopez372

Ай бұрын

I Guess you don’t know much about California. Lol.

@JosiahK555

Ай бұрын

Lol you think he has anything to do limiting structures on land? That's usually lefty governments that restrict your freedom on your own property...

I’m a subscriber to Doss Farms and Chad was talking about your dilemma, so I thought i’d Come over and check you all out. I’m now a new subscriber and will keep you all in my prayers.

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for joining. Here's a video about us: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iomtstaAh72Zo9Y.html

If zoned farm your parents can be a hired hands quarters. Your land measurements also always counts the portion you gave county for road frontage when divided. You need an experienced land development company.

Hello! I have come over from Doss Farms!! God Bless and have a Great Weekend!! ❤

Our house has an attached garage "under air"; it is insulated and was originallly heated. When we put in the new heating system the contractor removed the "heat" ducts and left ONE vent that complies with the "under air" stipulation. We only heat 1340 sq ft of a 1960 sq ft house. When we sell (or our kids do when we pass) all it will take to bring it back up to 1960 sq ft is to add back in the ductwork.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Updated video coming soon.

I would ask for a variance first. My neighbor in Bay County Florida had to do this recently and was given the variance to build even with many neighbors expressing their concerns against the issuing of the variance. I have personally applied for a variance in henry county Alabama to build a house and found the process to be quite simple it just took a little time.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Many have suggested that. Thanks for watching.

20 acres and still problems? Wow! What a mess. We went through the ringer with 3 acres, but in the end we got what we wanted. We put the foundation in for the main house (so the county couldn't change their mind) and built a guest house 1/3 of the sq. footage of the main. Where there's a will, there's a way. I hope you guys figure this all out.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support. Updated video coming soon!

My husband & I have been inspired by your story. We have been looking up in the Panhandle of Florida for property because we fell in love with the area when we visited. Like ya’ll we are going to need two houses on the property as well. May I ask which county your in ? Sending our prayers 🙏🏻 that you will achieve your dream home.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Hit us up on Facebook Messenger - Piney Grove Homestead and Mini Farm

@jwmustang1

4 ай бұрын

Wow, I am also looking to do the same thing in that area

I am so sorry to hear this. It’s beautiful there. I certainly hope something positive happens. Time to change the people in office there. Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

@PineyGroveHomestead

Ай бұрын

Thanks! We have a solution in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Can you request a variance to the 10 acre requirement? It sounds like most of your surrounding plots are 20 acres and somehow your property came up short. I have done this successfully although my circumstances were slightly different.

You could always add a bonus room above the garage if it needs to be conditioned space.

Another new follower sent over from Doss Farms. Praying that everything works out for you and your family to live comfortably

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

I also came over from Doss Farm, K&S Get Out, Matt, and Grandpa…. I look forward to following along.

Came over to view this and your update videos as directed by Chad from Doss Farms (one of your viewers). Definitely research, check and recheck, check again. We've had rugs pulled out from under us too resulting in costly solutions also. Never the less, still blessed.

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by. We feel blessed as well. Here's a video we did awhile back talking about our background: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iomtstaAh72Zo9Y.html

We’ve been dealing with something similar where we live. Planning and such. We live in “Westwego” LA and small unincorporated city. But it’s not “Westwego” out zip code covers 4 towns We had to “subdivide” 3 lots into one and hoping to get building percent to move the shell of the tiny home on a concrete pad and add 100sqft to it to make it compliant with the city codes. Ugh! We get your frustrations. Keep your heads up and persevere.

@PineyGroveHomestead

28 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

I hope you are able to secure a special exception from the county commission. I do understand your frustration. We are praying for a resolution to this problem.

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Here's an update to this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Hello, all the way from the UK. I couldn't stop crying hearing your story. I hope all goes well for you. God will stand up for.

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. We've got a way ahead now. We talk about it in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Just a thought. I opted for a detached garage when I built my home 3 years ago. I am in Texas so this may not work. But if you build a detached garage like you wanted but build a walkway to the detached garage with and awning coverting the walkway would you be able to count that as total square footage to the house. My county does count my covered awning as under roof although it is nor under heat and air. So my house is 1882 sq ft climate controlled but total 3650 sq feet foot print. I extended my covered porch and patio. Btw way the awning is attached to my covered patio and the detached garage.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Updated video with answers here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

I design many houses and guest houses and have had issues in the past. I understand the size issue for an accessory structure and they have never allowed an oven in this structure. That would be considered a second home (house). No county that I have worked in allowed this. As for a barn or shed, Florida Statues allows you to build one without a permit on Agricultural land. Then after it is up, you can get a permit for electric or other. As long as it is not in the setback area.

Beautiful couple! Thanks for your information… and sorry to hear what’s happened to you

Similar incident happened to my coworker. They built grandparents house first and their house second. Like you, they could only have one structure. So they connected a covered walkway from the grandparent's house to the main house therefore it could all be under one roof. And one structure 😂

Cal the “guest house” an accessory dwelling unit, you will need to make a sidewalk from main house to the “ home office “ aka accessory dwelling unit. Then this should just make it part of the house .

a lot of good info. good the commission listen to the people. Thank you.

To make a really short story I knew someone that had the same problem as you they were actually one acre short from building two different houses on their property they worked out a deal with their neighbor and bought 1 acre and the problem was solved. Now I don't know if this helps you where you live at but it might be something to look into. Thank you for the great video I hope everything works out for you.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.....updated video coming soon!

Thanks for sharing your story. It is discouraging that we live under a rule system that is on shifting sands. I have sold property and cancelled extensive long-term plans due to government zoning policies, only to find that later "they" changed the rules again and changed the property that was one house per acre, to become "commercial." Had I known, I would have kept it and been much wealthier. I have other properties which I assume I cannot use as I had originally intended. In Florida, "long-range planning" seems to be intended to take away all our property rights. In reality, the government is our "landlord." We only have a lease, and if the annually increasing rent is not paid, it WILL be taken away - improvements and all.

can you just get a lot line adjustment from your neighbors? You can do that in most places. Just offer your neighbors a few grand and pay for the process. It happens all the time. You would get a sliver of land on an adjacent property, which would give you the other half acre

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

From what we understand, that is not an option. Thanks for watching.

Incredible nothing surprises me anymore worked for a company that bought some land to add a second location got ready to break ground found out there was a microscopic mud shrimp in the mud on the corner of the property stopped the entire project these microscopic mud shrimp needed to be relocated and I hope they’re doing great today and thriving on an exotic beach somewhere!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

There are turtles and mice that can stop building in our area! Thanks for watching.

I’m glad I watched this. We eventually want to buy land in NJ and put 2-3 homes on it. I will make sure we know how much acreage we would need for 2-3 houses.

@PineyGroveHomestead

27 күн бұрын

Yes!! Definitely check that out.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Im in North Florida also, Putnam county to be exact. Go back to zoning, ask for the variance paperwork. Its a simple process, as long as you dont get public pushback by neighbors you will get approved. A real-estate lawyer is definitely recommended.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html

Haven’t read previous comments but if you’re allowed any square footage, connect your dream home to the other home with an enclosed hallway (same roofing) that is hooked up to the AC. In Arizona that qualifies it as one home with one total square footage (including the hallway). Maybe that’ll work in FL?

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

We will cover that in an updated video soon!

Maybe you should get a property survey done. We are purchasing a parcel here in NC that the tax record shows as 16.67 acres. Our surveyor just gave us the finished map and he found that it is actually 17.459 acres!

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

That's winning! Thanks for watching!

@T3_Surv

4 ай бұрын

Wise decision to survey before buying

If you are putting dirt up there on the hill you should have been mixing dirt and gravel together so it will settle if you're going to put a house on it because you should mix gravel and dirt together so the house will never settle too much you should make put big gravel and little gravel and dirt together

Get a single wide trailer and build a 3000sqft add on, NO permits. I dont know where Piney Grove is but it looks like your a few miles up the rd. In Homes or Washington Co. Corruption Central.

Where I live you need a driveway permit, a certified septic installer that the homeowner can do on his own after some paper work and even put in the meter base. If the bank is involved there will probably be inspections by them.

@PineyGroveHomestead

4 ай бұрын

Seems you need a permit for everything! Thanks for watching.

Sounds familiar in North Florida, I think i know where you are at by the advertisement of the companies you used, I live in Okaloosa county and its amazing how things change around here good luck to you all. Heard about you from Doss farms

@PineyGroveHomestead

3 ай бұрын

This area is definitely growing! Updated video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3ed0pmTqZSXmco.html