But for real, you look really good in Cuts clothes😬

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

Then maybe you quit stealing all my Cuts hoodies, so I can wear them!😝

@asherembry8833

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one

@PascalTristanRedney

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidManningvlog Gotta say, they do look nice, but also comfy. One thing I do need to know, are the materials ethically sourced and the production sweatshop-free?

@S3ndIt13

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 I swear you guys. Keep up the great work! Love the content, my guy!

@TallJakeW

2 жыл бұрын

It's awesome seeing you guys flirting with each other. My wife and I have been married 23 years, and I have to say, "Flirting is important."

Thank you for taking the time to put HERO10 Black through the paces. We watch every review like yours from start to finish and we read every comment so we can better understand how people are using their GoPros and what they want improved. We’re committed to releasing firmware updates that will continue to improve HERO10 Black, so know that when you or your audience make recommendations- we are listening!

@WilsoonHarrvey

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you can address this overheating issue with a firmware update because its really not looking good for the hero 10. Is this issue caused by the battery?

@jonathannumer5415

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilsoonHarrvey it's caused by the fact that 5.3k is an insane level of processing and he explained that they are small cameras and it's hard to jam enough heat sinks in.

@jester9118

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathannumer5415 I'd totally agree, however, it makes no sense for the newer model to overheat sooner than the previous when recording at the lower resolutions also. If this were just at 5.3k or 4k120, yeah, overheating would be understandable... but to last less at 4k60??

@JoaoPCavalcanti

2 жыл бұрын

@@jester9118 it's got a bigger sensor and faster processor

@gigihanmandarin

2 жыл бұрын

Does GP10 still freezes?

Hey David - we have an exciting update for you! Thanks to customer feedback, we’ve learned many HERO10 users want the ability to record longer video clips in static situations without motion or airflow to cool the camera. Many have also had questions about how to get the longest possible recording times while maximizing battery life. We’re excited to share that we’re releasing a HER010 firmware update to deliver on these requests by end of October. This update will introduce three new “Video Performance Modes” to help maximize HERO10’s performance depending on your use case: 1. Maximum Video Performance - Maximum video resolution and frame rates for the very best image quality and ultra slow motion. 2. Extended Battery - Optimal video resolutions and frame rates for maximizing recording times and extending battery life. 3. Tripod / Stationary Video - Optimized for recording long video clips at the highest resolutions and frame rates when the camera is stationary without motion or airflow to cool the camera. GPS and HyperSmooth video stabilization are turned OFF in this mode. The following is what users can expect to achieve, on average, in Tripod / Stationary Video mode recording a single continuous clip at a temperature of 77F / 25C in static situations without movement or airflow to cool the camera: 5.3K60 - 47% more runtime than previous for an average of 29 minute-long clips 5.3K30 - 11% more runtime than previous for an average of 44 minute-long clips 4K120 - 52% more runtime than previous for an average of 26 minute-long clips 4K60 - 154% more runtime than previous for an average of 63 minute-long clips 4K30 - 35% more runtime than previous for an average of 50 minute-long clips A future firmware update will enable even longer clip lengths in 5.3K30 and 4K30. And if important for your use case, 2.7K and 1080p will enable significantly longer single clip recording times in either Extended Battery or Maximum Video Performance modes. We’re also excited to share that in late November we’re releasing a new battery, named Enduro, for HERO10 and HERO9 cameras. Enduro will be available as a $24.99 spare battery upgrade and features revolutionary technology that dramatically improves your GoPro’s performance in cold temperatures (snow sports, for example) while also significantly extending recording times in moderate temperatures. At a battery temperature of 14F / -10C (note: this is the battery’s temperature, it can be even colder outside), with HERO10 Black the Enduro battery enables, on average, 56 minutes of 5.3K60 video, 50 minutes of 4K120 video, 76 minutes of 4K60 video and 115 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Enduro also significantly increases video recording time in moderate temperatures. For example, with HERO10 Black during typical outdoor activities at a temperature of 77F / 25C, the Enduro battery enables, on average, 60 minutes of 5.3K60 video (a 28% improvement over the standard battery), 51 minutes of 4K120 video (a 40% improvement over the standard battery), 71 minutes of 4K60 video (a 13% improvement over the standard battery) and 120 minutes of 1080p30 video recording. Stay tuned for more information on the November launch of the new Enduro battery and end of October release of the updated HERO10 firmware featuring the new Performance Video Modes. And please keep your feedback and requests coming - as you can see, we’re excited to develop additional HERO10 performance enhancements based on your input!

@bjoern_eberhardt

2 жыл бұрын

This was actually the last thing that kept me from upgrading :)) I am not talented enough to record the perfect shorts, but I have a 512GB MicroSD to compensate.

@spekledworf

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear of the updates. I got this GoPro to put inside my car during track days and need it to record 30 minutes at a time

@kevintofts1945

2 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a new GoPro 10 black, when in 2022 will we see the updates and new enduro battery, or where can i go to get these updates, thank you

@bilali_life

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevintofts1945 hey Kevin , do yoU face the overheating problem in Gopro hero 10 after the new update version ? Please guide me I’m looking for buying the Gopro hero 10 for vlogging ,

@EntirelyHonest

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilali_life Wondering this as well!

11:39 Real world situation? 75 degrees inside a home, no heat from the sun which a go pro is made for outdoors, and a fan blowing on it constantly. No camera should overheat in that scenario.

@Groaznic

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can almost see the stack of gopro money off camera. Disgusting.

@RamirezHD

2 жыл бұрын

They a re pulling the "iphone" trick. Marginal improvement but people still pay for it. Why would they changed it?

@camtwan1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it made no sense how he keeps acting like being out in the sun is the wrong way to use it. It is an action outdoor camera, overheating in 10 minutes is a joke

@jawaring4367

2 жыл бұрын

There are more comprehensive (and scientific) tests on youtube that show the overheating claims are blown way out of proportion. People love to hate gopro for some reason. I've used it in the southern US in direct sunlight and I still haven't seen it overeat.

I repair GoPro’s. After watching this, I was truly impressed. The Hero 3’s and 4’s can run over one hour. Granted, they are not 4 or 5k cameras. The 7’s can yield respectable recording times, especially if the frame rates are not maxed out. The general testing criteria that I use is 1080P, 60FPS. All LED’s turned off, beep volume set to medium and screen auto off after 1 minute. Not yet digging into a 9 or 10, I’d have to say from a reliability standpoint, the 3’s were the most reliable. The 7 black runs a close 2nd place and is my favorite. It is GoPro’s flagship camera for video quality and reliability, IMHO. The 4’s are decent if you get a good one. They seemed to have the most image sensor failures. The video quality is good on all of them, if you dial in the settings properly for what you are going record. Seriously, I am not a GoPro junkie.🤪

@abundantharmony

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. Help? I need to motovlog asap.

@JBJHonez

2 жыл бұрын

@@abundantharmony get a refund and get the Oslo Action and see how it goes. I wish I had the money do get a set to try out

@dnegel9546

2 жыл бұрын

I dont get why this guy simulated "real world" scenario. Instead of actually you know going outside in the real world. 😑

@JBJHonez

Жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546 right. Because his tests aren’t “real world”. I’m tired of fake KZreadrs. That’s why I don’t have the subs and such like others, because I’m not making Micheal bane Videos, I show my mistakes and I have a life outside of the KZread world

GoPro to people with overheating issue on the Hero 10: "You're using it all wrong!" Great marketing!

@robertm3951

2 жыл бұрын

Worked for Apple

@John_Ridley

2 жыл бұрын

GoPro has a lot of cultists. They'll buy whatever they put out.

@JunkBondTrader

2 жыл бұрын

they said 'testing it wrong'. But still, no excuse.

@MichaelGile19

2 жыл бұрын

When they finally did address it, they just decided to call it the 10 just so they weren't accountable for the 9 being garbage

@abundantharmony

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

Thank you for all the effort you put into testing. I've just purchased the hero 10 and it's my first GOPRO period, you've given me peace of mind about my purchase.

Great job testing! Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I just purchased 2 Go Pro 10 cameras and your information is very helpful! Thanks Man!

This is a really great video! Thx for taking the time to look into this and test like this rather than try and sensationalise what sounds like a major problem - until you bring a bit of real world sense to the issue! Understanding how a product is designed is a great way of understanding how best to use it and that ls exactly what your discussions with GoPro did here. We are now better informed as to what its capabilities are and as you say are in a better place to make an informed decision as to whether its the right camera for us. Great job! 👏👏👏

Thank you for addressing the overheating issues with action cameras.

GoPro: *overheats DJI: TONIGHT WE FILM IN HELL

@izakniemann5734

2 жыл бұрын

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

@theelectronomer2319

2 жыл бұрын

@@izakniemann5734 It sure is. Let's see what you can do DJI!

Bro I really appreciate you! I’ve been learning so much about my new GoPro 10 from you! Thanks for the vids!

Thanks for doing this test David. I started to do a similar test with the 8 and the 9 at different resolutions and frame rates and was finding similar results re the fps having more of an effect on the heat than the resolution. I tend to shoot at 4K 60fps for pretty much everything and found that the 8 definitely lasts longer than the 9 before shutting down. The best I've had out of the 8 was 2 hours (with battery swaps) continuous recording and it still didn't shut down. I had the GoPro clipped to my daypack whilst on a hike. The weather was 26/27 degrees Celsius (around 80 degrees F Fahrenheit). Having said that, I don't often do long recordings like this and have never really had a problem with either the 8 or the 9. The fact that the 10 has an even shorter life though is making me think carefully about investing in one.

@AkshayKumar-hb3vs

Жыл бұрын

Go pro 10 is worst

Amazing explanation, thank you. Now I know it's not going to be an issue for me as I'm going to shoot mostly in 24 frames with ND filters, as I want to have cinematic feel and only fill in with slow motion, so this helped me clear all possible worries, now I know Hero 10 is my weapon of choice over 9, as lagging would be an issue, but overheating will not be

How about a surface snorkeling test/ shallow dive? I wounder how it would do then? 🤔

@polloborracho9180

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like having the whole housing submerged in cool water would net some interesting results. Feel like that's where it would be happiest. Haha

@waldo2635

2 жыл бұрын

I called GoPro about that. I'm a diver. They said in a case underwater filming at 2.7k or less it won't overheat but video 4k and up you can have as little as 16 minutes before overheating.

@danielavery8594

2 жыл бұрын

@@waldo2635 Hm, wonder what's the point in buying a large capacity micro SD card for 4K then if it's going to die in 15 mins.

@octny

2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that too. I used the hero 9 black in the dive housing at 4k60fps and in 29 degrees water, it shuts down after a long video, if you are filming the whole dive. But if I turn it on then switch to 2.7k60fps, it does not overheat at all. Probably in colder water it could last longer before shutting down. Anyway, for me it lasts long enough. I also got the Hero 10 black and look forward to try it out scubadiving. so far so good.

@SpiritualWorks2024

2 жыл бұрын

the go-pro would still record better under water than on a desk because the water would most likely act as a cooling system for the go-pro like for most desktops

Hey David! Great video! I bought the hero 10 in the month of December and since I was facing the same issue because I've been using my GoPro as more of a indoor camera. But when i tested it out I just have no complaints with it! Seriously, I am so mesmerized by its amazing quality and how it can withstand super high resolutions and frame rates with decent temperature, being on a grip, and with a lot of airflow!

Thanks for this, it was very helpful. I shoot fly fishing videos in Australia, and I know there are a heap of fishing channels out there from all over the world. A few points: 1. In Australia, much of the time it's pretty hot outdoors. 2. We are filming in and around water, often hiking in to remote rivers etc, so waterproofing, durability and small size and weight are all vital considerations. 3. I do have a proper video camera that dissipates heat much better and longer battery time etc, but much of the time I shoot on GoPros because the big camera is not waterproof or practical for a particular shoot. 4. In fishing we shoot for a long time in one location because we are waiting for the exciting bit (hooking a fish) and can't afford to miss the critical action. So I leave the cameras running constantly sometimes for as long as they will run before shutting off. I generally shoot several hours of footage in a day. I currently use a GoPro Max and a Hero 8, the Max is definitely better in terms of heat performance and battery life, but both of them have issues with overheating. 5. For me, and I imagine for anybody who is filming or wants to film fishing content, the overheating issue is absolutely massive. Based on what I have seen, there is no way I would buy a Hero 10 at this point in time, nor a Hero 9. Much as I would love the extra features and better resolutions and frame rates, the heat issue is an absolute non starter. I understand that there are engineering issues with small cameras and heat, but seriously these cameras are supposed to be made to shoot adventure. If you're having adventures in Australia or many other warm parts of the world, then it's going to get hot. For goodness sake GoPro, and other manufacturers, take into account that adventure cameras need to be usable and reliable in more extreme environments. Not everyone only wants to shoot 1:10 videos in cool climates. Thanks again for the video!

Can we get a comparison of the battery OUT of the camera and plugged into an external source? How long then does it last? Thanks

@ATEmedia

2 жыл бұрын

That would be an interesting test and I think you will find it will last longer

I use my DJI osmo action in a very hot truck during offroading and traveling. so far it did not stop recording, and i'm making long clips up to over one hour. It looks like i bought the right cam, that is more than 2 years old and somehow still beats the go-pro in terms of heat and usability for long times.

@mtnmotoadv

2 жыл бұрын

I've had my fair share of action cameras over the past few years. Recently bought the DJI Action and have been super impressed with it so far. All the latest and greatest resolutions sound nice but realistically I'm still only using 1080p 60fps and Maybe 2.7k at most, so anything beyond that I don't even bother with since it uses so much memory space and takes forever to render. I just wish I had gotten the DJI long ago

@skatetoexplorevideos2477

2 жыл бұрын

yup, osmo action is the best.

@joakimtollerud2172

2 жыл бұрын

Love that camera, such a workhorse.

@circuslife888

2 жыл бұрын

I own DJI Osmo Action. I think it's the best action camera currently -- by a clear mile.

@joakimtollerud2172

2 жыл бұрын

@@circuslife888 and great price.

Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into this!

Excellent info David Manning. ------ I did an indoor test of a GoPro Hero 8 at 73 degrees F. 4k, 24fps with the media mod installed and mounted on the legs extended. I got one hour recorded with about 90% battery used up. No shut down. It was hot to the touch but not where I couldn't hold it.

This is great. I didn’t know there were overheating issues because, like you said, I rarely record for that long all at once, but it’s a good thing to be aware of. Curious if the Media Mod changes things or traps heat 🤔

@alekblaser

2 жыл бұрын

Media mod reduces resolution to 2.7k so I’m sure it won’t overheat as fast

@BrandonTalbot

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

@isaactaylor1833

2 жыл бұрын

Shut up and stop trying to downplay this horrible situation. You rarely record for 20 mins? 😂😂😂 ok so super overheating isn’t a problem. Just don’t use the GoPro for longer than 15 mins. Stupid af

@armando.visuals

2 жыл бұрын

Media mod is not available yet for GoPro 10 we have to wait for update

@Ocho474

2 жыл бұрын

@@armando.visuals I have the media mod for my GoPro 9 and you can definitely use it on the GoPro 10

I did a heat test on the hero 10 with hypersmooth off at 4K 30fps and I got 55 minutes recording time until it cut the clip. Didn’t shut off or show overheating message just cut the clip at 55 minutes. Camera was hot . So it might be that the frame rates drain more battery than the resolution . I also think the hypersmooth also drains a lot of battery usage and forces the camera to get even hotter thus shorter recording times . Going to try another test with hypersmooth on at 4K 30,60 and 1080p 30,60.

@Phoenix11720

2 жыл бұрын

Did you do the tests?

@dancer1

2 жыл бұрын

Update?

@Kynetguy

2 жыл бұрын

Did you update? I’m Looking at running at 1080/30fps with 1/60 shutter into an HDMI capture card. Will be running typical Streaming setting. No hyper smooth and usb c charging connected.

Thanks David! Very scientific and helpful. Its nice to see you back and in a new home! Congrats to you and Morgan!

Awesome comparison and tough test for our little action cameras!! thank you for sharing these tests with us!!

My Hero9 also overheated at the test bench like hell. However: - In reality indeed I never shoot that long - mostly 5-10min clips with a lot of air flow - Firmware updates seemed to have tackled the issue quite a lot - it got better with the first 2 updates - Indeed those metal mounting flaps on the bottom get hot first, so I bouth myself some aluminum mounts to use with regular tripods, since aluminum transmits heat really well - and boom, no more heat issues whatsoever. So GoPro is quite right in their usage analysis and poroduct design - if you use it like it's intended to be used you'll hardly have overheating issues whatsoever. Worst comes worse, put it on an all-metal tripod (preferably aluminium) and it will stay cool enough even in stall or sun lit environments.

@JBJHonez

2 жыл бұрын

nah, I use mine on all metal tripods and it doesn't help. Even with the updates and such, it hasn't helped. I've lost 4 batteries in less than 2 weeks. 1080@30fps, batteries got so hot, I had to pull them out with pliers and now to spend the expensive gas to properly dispose of them

Great to see you being honest about new tech. I really appreciate you because I know you will always speak the truth and say your opinion. Keep it up!

David, thanks for always providing a bias free discussion. And thanks to GoPro for making great products! As for me, I love my 9 and I'm sure I'll love the 10 as well. Going to get mine tomorrow :-) I always appreciate your channel! Keep up the great work!

I have three GoPro 8's and use them mostly to record church service on Sunday morning. If I use 4K they usually shut down after 20-30 minutes. I usually use 1080 and they last until the battery is dead. One think I didn't know was the stabilization creating more heat. Thanks for that information. One other option is to take the battery out and leave the door open and use an external power source. I love GoPro's QR Lab. I've never heard you mention it.

“You’re doing it wrong,” is GoPro’s response. I was expecting to be able to set them up around a soccer goal. I set the GoPro 9 on a tripod (not on a flat surface) 4K60P with Hypersmooth off. 60fps for sports - in the sun. It shuts down at about 15 minutes running so hot the battery is probably permanently degraded a little. I found that I could keep it running if I drop the resolution to 2.7K60P without a battery inside to allow for more airflow. During an indoor (72 F) test running at 4K60P my FLIR camera showed theGoPro 9 at 130 degrees, but I’m sure it got hotter by the time it shutdown. I’ve searched for camera cooling solutions such as sunshades and fans with no success yet. I thought about connecting a small cordless blower to a vacuum hose and zip tying that hose to the tripod. Then I just stopped myself from going down the rabbit hole. More expense, carrying more stuff, and then drowning out any sound of the game with fan and wind noise.

@masiosareiii4915

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy a DJI osmo, zero bugs.

@MrCruz_TEDM

2 жыл бұрын

Dji Osmo - 💯 - Get something worth your time bro. No joke.

So happy I got to hold on buying the "Hot Pro", I almost lost faith on DJI releasing Osmo Action V2. Don´t need 5K, up to 4K and amazing features and reliability for long shooting times is what my real life scenario wants. Can´t wait for DJI releasing the kraken.

@izakniemann5734

2 жыл бұрын

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

@kysus3284

2 жыл бұрын

DJI action 2 is even worst LOL it lasted 10 minutes filming 4k/60FPS and 18 minutes with the screen battery , i did the test in a room with an AC and the heating limit turned off. ill do outside testing later.

@abundantharmony

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

@abundantharmony

2 жыл бұрын

@@kysus3284 glad I saw this comment. sheesh im doomed

Thank you for making this video. I realize what a lot of work you put into this. In addition to regular action cam duties, I would like to use a small camera like this in my business. I shoot a lot of concerts with a number of cameras and I’d like to have more. I think small discreet cameras like this would allow for some really cool camera angles for drums, keyboards etc, however, most of these small cameras cannot run continuously for extended periods of time. This is why I was particularly interested in this video.

Thanks for a great test! I'm curious how much (if any) lowering the resolution will change the timings? Did you test that? Or would it make sense to do?

If DJI release the Osmo Action 2 this year (and it’s an improvement on v1) it’s gonna absolutely destroy GoPro 10 sales

@MrCruz_TEDM

2 жыл бұрын

I'll spend every dollar on Dji cameras cause THEY WORK 💯

@RICH_Photography

2 жыл бұрын

And looking at the Mavic 3 and they apparently throwing a m43 sensor into a tiny drone...DJI could end GoPro.

@robertm3951

2 жыл бұрын

What amazed me was how tiny the action is compared to GoPros but it still handled the heat better

@montecristo9017

2 жыл бұрын

For sure..

@psykoonthestreet8640

2 жыл бұрын

@@RICH_Photography Doubtful.

I use my Hero 7 a lot for long recordings (like an electric guitarist angle during an entire concert) and it does fine even past the one hour mark. Just battery capacity limited. But seeing this heating issue in a much NEWER model is unfortunate. Despite what those typical recording conditions are, the older models were put in the same condition as well and the Hero 8 lasted twice as long as the 10. I was really hoping to upgrade mainly because of the improvement in reliability and responsiveness but this makes me contemplate more. Glad I didn’t purchase one right away.

@_smsb_

2 жыл бұрын

this is interesting to me because i have had the complete opposite experience. Hero 7, but multiple clips at around a minute each. outside. camera always freezes up, then shuts down. i can take the battery out and put it back in, but that only fixes the problem for an extra clip or 2.

@greatvedas

2 жыл бұрын

same here about my opinion about newer models.

@markuslad

2 жыл бұрын

It totally depends on the use case. Mine even froze regularly in cold weather after 20-30 minutes 4k (wifi turned on), with 2.7k and everything off it works but that’s unpractical.

@peternemeth6038

2 жыл бұрын

That for me with the 7 happens because crappy firmware. Just keep the power button pressed until it's reset.

@gettinghigh

2 жыл бұрын

I use the Hero 7 with an external powerbank and removed battery during long flights. It recorded 4k 60 fps for 3 hours without any overheating issues.

Thank you for all the testing and content!!

Awesome video. Thank you for explaining. Used my hero 10 for the first time today filming interior and exterior of my house. My video was 11 minutes and 30 seconds. I did notice a lot of warmth on the bottom but never received the message about shutting down. I used to small GoPro stick. Makes sense that typical users film on average a minute or two with no issues. Wonder if time lapse is affected by this problem?

Thanks for this! Never had overheating issues using my Insta360 OneR and was thinking about trying a GoPro Hero 10 as a second camera… guess not! I film surfski runs (surfing with kayaks) so I have to let the camera run for 1 hour at a time, since it’s out of reach, then grab highlights in post.

You didn't test anything wrong. If you put all the cameras in a cool vented environment the 10 will still cook first. It has a overheating issue, full stop.

Great video! Thanks man just got my HERO 10 and mounted it on my dash to record driving in 4K. After 20 minutes of recording the battery drained from fully 100% to 39% and super hot. Debating on taking it back or keeping it. Your video was very informative and some things to consider in such a small device. Thanks!

Wow you really put your heart into this. Great info and very detailed cant wait for my 10!

Great video! I'm sure my case is a small niche... but still... in the fishing youtube scene, we use gopro cameras all the time, we keep them running for long periods of time (many times until the battery runs out), since you are trying to record a fish biting and you can't predict when that will happen, so we just keep the cameras rolling... So in the summer, here in latin america I run into overheating all the time while fishing in the sun with temps over 100 °F. Currently i own three gopro hero 8, didn't get the 9 becouse reviews say it overheated easier than the 8. I usually record at 2.7k 60fps (would love to see a test with those settings). I was hoping the hero 10 with the new processor would overheat less... but it seems not (or maybe the results will be different on lower resolutions, maybe the faster processor doesn't get that much load at 2.7k 60fps and that means lesser heat output... either way, great video man.

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, so stoked that Tabbers turned you onto Hindsight recording! SUPER helpful for use cases like yours👍

@NewDayOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Very similar here. I hunt and film everything. I use POV's in the decoys or on a hunter in stand, looping 20 minutes for hours on end with a large battery plugged into the USB port. GoPros ALWAYS overheat on me, even in cold weather. DJI and Insta do not ever overheat even when I hunt in the Texas heat. I refuse to buy anything GoPro anymore.

@dougzauha

2 жыл бұрын

Jorge, according to GoPro you are not using the camera in a “real world” setting. You should be using it in the same manner that they tested it. How dare you take a camera and use it out in the field to record in a way that did not match precisely how they tested it. Also, you should have purchased a fan and a VERY long extension cord to blow air around the GoPro. (David, that was NOT a dig at you.). Memo to Jorge…please be careful of dragging the extension cord in the water while in use. Now I am sure, or at least hope everyone sees the tongue-in-cheek tone of my comment, BUT it does demonstrate something. Companies today create a product that they want you to buy, so they market the heck out of it, show you all these cool maneuvers, and show you all the really cool things that you can do with it in “the real world” of their advertisement. Then you buy the item and use it in the “actual real world” and issues arise. You bring it to their attention, and they tell you…you aren’t doing it right as you aren’t using the right “real world” in your daily life. So in my opinion here is the thing. There is an issue. GoPro does not want to deal with it. GoPro wants to just blame you and not their product. AND, they want you to keep buying their products…even though you use them wrong in their eyes…which kind of conflicts with their marketing that got you to buy the product in the first place. As long as we keep buying and letting them get away with it, they will keep running with it and not addressing their issues. I have two GoPro 7 models. The last models that I will buy because I got tired of being told that I am using the device wrong…when I was actually trying to do everyday kinds of activities. Not going to continue to give a company my money and then be told I am wrong when I demonstrate an issue that is evident when they just don’t want to deal with a legitimate issue. If you want to buy it and give your money to a company like that…that is your choice. I choose not to.

@KennethGreenCMP

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougzauha so if you buy a Ford Mustang you are going to blame Ford that it can't drive over rocks or through the mud because that's not how you want to use it? Ford going to tell you to buy a 4x4 truck not let us fix the Mustang.

@FishingwithMiguel

2 жыл бұрын

im with you there, gopro has disappointed me, i live in las vegas, and fish lake mead..it gets up to 117 degree here at times...my gopros will overheat after 5 minutes here, and im shooting at 1080p mounted on my chest....i purposely dont shoot any higher because its not going to be worth it, gopro will over heat...ive shut most of the hypersmooth and all the other settings that i know will drain or mess with battery...and yes us as fisherman, need cameras to run constantly for hours, we cant choose when we will get a fish to bite, so recording just for a few minutes is NOT an option, we need them running constantly just to be able to get that bite on camera

GoPro’s so overrated just launching new cameras without actual/practical upgrades and improvement.

@psykoonthestreet8640

2 жыл бұрын

GP1 vs GP2. Hero 9 vs Hero 10 touchscreen and performance. If you had either of these cameras, you wouldn't need to make this statement. But I bet you do have an iPhone... :: baa ::

Super helpful! Thanks for the testing

Waiting for mine to arrive ....my first gopro and I can't wait !!! Love your videos by the way and hi from Australia !!!

I still use my hero 6 with reelsteady and none of the newer ones seem to be much better. I'm excited to see what the Osmo Action 2 will bring to the table (usable 480fps?)

So, what you're saying is this camera was purpose-built for snowboarders and skiers? I dare you see how long it can run without stopping while snowboarding. If you want to do Sun Valley, I'd ride with you as long as I can. :D

@bikingchupei2447

2 жыл бұрын

any decent airflow would do, cycling, running or simply just walking, i don't own a 10, but with my 8 i had recorded over 3 hours of continuous 4k60 footage multiple times in those conditions with 34+ degrees celsius temps.

Great video. Thank you. I’ve never own a GoPro and I was really looking forward to get the new one but with all the comments of heating problems I was going to skip it. Good to know it’s not really a problem. And no, I don’t think I would record for more than 3 minutes. Maybe not even 2 minutes. Thank you 👌🏼

Great video review! Very in depth on temps which can be a concern for some people. Keep up the great work!~

Some people take long timelapses, like whole night or 24h timelapses. There it is on mount yes but still not moving and some like taking timelapses inside where air is not moving that much. Though I think that timelapse creates less heat than proper 60fps 4k video, but it has to be able to run whole night or 24h without over heating imo 👀 would love if someone could test the timelapse heating. Also having an powerbank connected, would that cause more heat 🤔

@adrianglessner5979

2 жыл бұрын

I would think it would create less heat with a powerbank with a 100% charged battery. It will pull its power from the power bank rather than the battery, because its connected to usb c cable. This will reduce the amount of heat going through the battery in turn reducing unit temp. That's just my thought on it. I am sure people will roast me if I misspelled something or gave wrong information.

@mtbohana

2 жыл бұрын

He said in the video that the GP10 never over heated when doing time-lapse videos. So I would think you would be ok.

@kaltask1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtbohana yeah seems that framerate is the key of the heating and in timelapse the fps low. Basically taking a pic every 0,5-10 sec.

@kaltask1

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianglessner5979 yeah that would make sense tbh 🤔

This response is typical of my experience with GoPro as well. If there's ever a problem with their camera, it's YOUR FAULT. That's what they've said to me every time I called their tech support. My response, today, was to put the money back in my pocket I had pulled out to buy a Hero 10 and buy a DJI Osmo Action.

I just bought a Hero 10, my first GoPro. I appreciate you taking such a ridiculous amount of time to do these tests. You have great videos that are useful, and that’s the best you can ask for. Thanks, David.

@JustMaatt

2 жыл бұрын

how is it going so far? any issues with overheating?? how long do u usually record for?

@tinothepilot

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustMaatt Haven’t ran it very long and intend to use it when I fly. I’ll let you know.

Pretty good juggling at the end! Thanks for another great and informative video. I enjoy watching your videos more than any of the others. I don't shoot long clips either, so I wasn't really seeing the overheating of the GP10 as a problem. I haven't ordered one yet, but am researching early Christmas presents for myself. I have the One R 1" and 360 mods and enjoy using those cameras, but my current GoPro is a 5 - and your 1st video on the 10 was just so damn good. Gotta go - I think I hear Santa and his reindeer on my roof ;)

I'd be interested in seeing these same tests with no battery inside the unit plugged into an external power source

But it still doesn’t change the fact that in the same situation, at the same resolution and frame rate, the OLDER versions have better heat dissipation (or at least it doesn’t shut off for much longer). 4K60 in your own test Hero 8 = 30:00 whereas Hero 10 = 16:56. I don’t understand why this is.

@TheVoiceofReason4ya

2 жыл бұрын

New processor in the 10=more heat

@ragndroneman

2 жыл бұрын

And the insta360 and the action did even better 🤣👍

@ragndroneman

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVoiceofReason4ya shouldn't that be the other way around?! ..... ah we have a new processor, its so much better cos it heats up even quicker.......!! 🤣🤣🤣👍

@codyburbage7825

2 жыл бұрын

@@ragndroneman more power means more heat.

@simonwyndham

2 жыл бұрын

I can get 38 minutes in 4K/60 SuperView on my HERO10.

Thanks so much for doing this video and kudos for reaching out to GoPro and them responding.

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Tom, thanks for watching! And super cool of GoPro to respond and react with firmware updates. Very cool to see!

Excellent analysis sir. and good points. but i wonder what the media mod would do as it would constrict airflow as well. thanks for the review.

Did I miss the part where you tested the other cameras with a fan blowing on them and mounted off the table?

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

No, because they made it the full 30 mins on the table, so they for sure would make the whole 30 mins on a mount👍

Thank you for this man. I'm going to upgrade from GoPro Hero 6 to 10. You sir, helped me make that decision. It totally depends on how you're going to use it. I'm not pretty much concern about it overheating on a table. So yeah! Easy purchase.

Absolute phenomenal video great job really helped me out 👌👌👌👌

Very good test, complete and full of very useful info about the new Hero10’s overheating problem 🤯🤯

Unless you need the screens on all the time, set them to turn off after a few minutes. The screens consume a significant amount of power.

@robertm3951

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds very reasonable to me. I wonder why GoPro did not recommend that

@DanJen

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect that's why the DJI cams force the screens to shut down. They probably generate a lot of heat and they've chosen to sacrifice that feature to keep recording while Go Pro chose to shut down the camera instead.

@Vessekx

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanJen, LCD screens don’t generate much heat at all. They get shut down in hot conditions to *protect* them from the heat, and to reduce draw on the battery, which becomes significantly less efficient in hot conditions as well.

Glad I watched through the end. Was thinking of finally getting one for mountain biking, but 20mins is not very long to record a ride. Looks like having it properly mounted and flying down trails should give plenty of recording time

@ATEmedia

2 жыл бұрын

I would of liked to see a test outside with the fan blowing harder. Might test mine when it arrives

I live in Western Australia and regularly film in excess of 1 hour as I create train cab ride video’s, the camera is usually in the direct sun behind the forward facing cab window so gets pretty hot. I use the GoPro 7 and GoPro 9 on 4K and by simply having the locomotive cab aircon running (which believe me we need too) I rarely have the cameras shutdown. My difference is I use the power lead and remove the batteries. I am sooo looking forward to putting the GoPro 10 through its paces in my filming environment which is pretty harsh. Great informative video as always, thanks

Great vid, thanks for doing the testing for us.

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Jamie! Thanks for watching!

So it’s still the worst at overheating compared to the other cameras when testing the “correct” way?

Someone recording 15 mins of 4k 120 is simply nuts 😂😂😂😂

@Amberdogproductions

2 жыл бұрын

Guess I'm nuts...Lol.. I run mine in a rig in a dive case and hit record. Overboard it goes...

Really solid review. For me my concerns are pretty much allayed. Thanks for taking the time to make the video 👍🏻

GREAT vid David. Just purchased our first GoPro - Hero 10 and did notice how hot it was while charging it (no movement) and also a bit warm using it. The charging issue will be eliminated after I get the extra charging station. Try not to charge the battery in the camera unless its the only choice. A lot of our shots will be water pics & vids - so in my opinion - water cools the camera. While over heating is a nasty word for electronics - nice to know it will shut down to prevent any damage.

Yes, you testes it "wrong", but you tested them all the same way so GoPro's argument is completely irrelevant, and your tests still show the accurate results.

Air flow definitely makes a huggggge difference. I recorded for well over an hour non stop with hypersmooth (not boost though I think) at 4k60 on my road bike on a pretty warm day with my Hero 9

@ScottDy9000

2 жыл бұрын

I run the Hero9 for hours at a time on my SxS and it's never shuts down due to heat (ran out of storage a couple times). Just got a Hero 10 and I will test it soon - but yeah airflow makes the difference.

@reshmashriyan5042

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScottDy9000 how was hero 10 in terms of heating?

@abundantharmony

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe people can record at 4k 60fps with no issues. I just returned mine today because I cant record longer than 15 mins at 4k 60fps IN 40 mph wind strapped to my helmet. ​

David that was a great test comparison. Thanks for sharing the info and great video.

Awesome review like always David 🤙🏽 thanks

The DJI Osmo Action is the GOAT

@izakniemann5734

2 жыл бұрын

DJI ACTION 2 is coming on 27 Oct'21. That is the camera to buy!

Great video!!!! If someone is looking for an ACTION camera to record for 20 mins to 2 hours straight indoors sitting on table they should buy a.......CAMCORDER. I used a H9 and H10 all day walking and biking around Charleston, SC in 85 degree heat and it never over heated. Now, I did burn through a few batteries. I have yet to see a test in normal use that GoPro made the camera for. Go biking, running, skiing, surfing, mountain climbing, driving with it mounted out side of you car - then tell me it overheats in 20 mins.

@mysterydpt4663

2 жыл бұрын

How many batteries do you usually run through ? I bought my GoPro to record live sets that usually last about an hour . There’s plenty of videos on KZread of people using gopros to record live concerts I’ve even seen one be up to two hours long don’t know how he did it. I did a test at 4K 30fps hypersmooth off and got 55 minutes . Wasn’t excited about it but it would do the job . I’m assuming 2.7k or 1080p 30fps would last a bit longer

@KennethGreenCMP

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysterydpt4663 I am getting about an hour to an hour and half on average of recording. I shoot mostly in 2.7/60 FPS recording a little bit of this and little bit of that. I don't turn them off in between recording. When riding the rental bikes around town this weekend, I recorded some, rode, recorded some more for example and got about an hour on each battery. The one with Media Mod and Rode external mic got about 45 mins but its also powering the mic too. I keep about 6 batteries on me when I travel. Just to make sure.

@mycraven4drums

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed @Kenneth Green. I ride my bike and I use my 9 all the time. I go on 1-2 hour bike rides minimum. I've never had mine overheat and turn off.

@MehdiMirian

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. If people argue about video length, then a bigger camera will suit their purpose, heck even their phone will do. But a GoPro is made to capture where no phone or big camera can go. Not do a 2 hour video on one sitting.

Thanks David for this extensive testing. I have some practical use suggestions based on my extensive usage of the Hero 9 & 10 in underwater photography that may help someone else. Overheats with these models are problematic. Underwater, the camera can't be accessed to correct the overheat lockups. At the depths I use the camera a housing is necessary to protect the camera, but that exacerbates the problem of overheating. Most often the water I'm using them in is from 72 degrees F to 83 degrees F...my experience is that the warmer the water the greater the occurrence of overheat lockup. Using 'hindsight' function causes lockup on every dive as the camera is always on in that mode. The way I deal with overheating lockups is to set hindsight off always, quick capture on, so that the camera is always off until I want to capture video and then I carry an extra camera for backup so I can always capture the moment. While I still get occasional lockups it is less frequent and with the backup camera I never miss the moment even if I do encounter a lockup.

Fascinating test. You’re right, I typically shot 1 to 5 minutes. I’m excited to use the 10 in my upcoming backpacking videos.

Waiting for the DJI Osmo Action V2. GoPro just doesn't seem to really get it right, despite all the variations and updates.

@chrismartin6690

2 жыл бұрын

GoPro are good at Sales and Marketing..Just need teh product to perform.. If its designed for short bursts of video then they should say where best to use it.. By not saying it over heats if used for longer periods they have put doubts on the validity of the product.

Stuff like this - where people make rushed claims - reminds me of when the first Canon C300 came out - it was 1080 - had 8bit and everyone claimed it was dead on arrival. But then filmmakers (I’ve shot many things with Canon cinema cameras now) and especially doc filmmakers got it in their hands the image quality was stunning. Specs, and especially in studio tests are always different than actual real world use. Great video man - glad GoPro clarified.

Easily the best video about the heating issue. Thanks dude!

Thanks for the update glad I have the 10 on the way. I go about 8-9 min. recording with my 9.

I got a Osmo action while I waited for the HERO10 and for now I am not jumping. I use it on my bike with a chin mount and having a massive camera stuck there with a massive mic dongle just put more strain on my neck. On the EUC the front screen of the Osmo is super helpfull for framing and its a small size. Also the mic adapter is super small and cheap to replace if needed. I am happy with my setup. I only miss the high efficiency video format on the Osmo as the files are massive. With massive file come the need for a very expensive laptop or desktop to edit them without super render times. I speak to so many people that think they need to shoot at 5K or even 4K60 and when they get home to edit the footage there standard laptops or desktops makes the experience super bad. Just some thoughts

It shows me that the hero 10 has issues. That's not surprising though knowing GoPros past history. I do not believe the price justifies this camera with the faults that it currently has. It should be selling around $299.00. But, GoPro has always been overpriced..

@jcap8391

2 жыл бұрын

This is bad. What good is it worth if it doesn't work properly. I actually was a click away until I see the first overheat review. Good thing I stuck with my DJI

So glad I found this video. I was about to not even purchase this camera because of all the reviews on the over heating issue. So thank you so very much💕!!!

Thank you so much for the explanation.

But that would mean that all other cameras would do much better in real world conditions than the gopro10 as well? So its still not good enough?

@DavidManningvlog

2 жыл бұрын

So that's sort of the question of the video. How long do you need your action camera to record? GoPro says that 75% of clips are 1:10 or under and for me, I film 3-5 minute clips at the most. But for people that are looking to film for 15-20 minutes+, it sounds like they have to trade the benefits of the Hero 10 for a camera that can film longer👍

@timsytanker

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidManningvlog you should be able to record until the battery goes flat, that’s not unreasonable. The DJI Action certainly can.

I just got the GoPro 10 to avoid GoPro 9. Yes, the damn thing overheats. Might as well film in Antarctica.

@MrCruz_TEDM

2 жыл бұрын

Send it back - DJI for the win, you won't be disappointed

@meljenkins1016

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrCruz_TEDM I already have the DJI Osmo. The difference is that Osmo has a built in fan on the camera. You'd think GoPro would have learned from DJI.

@MrCruz_TEDM

2 жыл бұрын

@@meljenkins1016 Right! Good deal man!!

That was a lot of time and hard work. Very detailed and cogently express. Congrats on your endorsement. Glad to see hard work pays off.

Thanks for doing the tests. I have been thinking of getting the Hero 10, and have seen several vid comments about the overheating. After seeing your video I have determined that it is a non-issue for me. I will get the Hero 10. 👍

That's why I love my osmo action it gets hot but it never shuts off and you write that screen do turn off when it gets too hot but it still keeps recording. Next time you're in Ohio look me up

Ahh the whole "testing it wrong" line. Remember when Apple said "you're holding it wrong"? When companies say that they actually mean "we can't admit we got it wrong"

@Pikmeir

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hearing Gopro's official response made me lose faith that they're going to address this issue. I think they're now only focused on satisfying the 75% of their customers who they say never record for more than a few minutes. But they're going to end up losing a lot of lifetime customers who used their action cameras in professional settings, and anyone who needs to record for more than 10 minutes.

@kwinzman

2 жыл бұрын

In the end he put it on a mount. With a fan. In a climate controlled room. And it still shut off due to overheating? I was surprised to say the least!

@Pikmeir

2 жыл бұрын

@@kwinzman Too bad the Gopro 10 isn't tough and rugged enough to deal with the extreme climates of... a refreshingly cool house with air flow.

Hi David, liked the video! What is a camera you recommend for a tennis player? I travel for tournaments to areas with all kinds of environments (hot dessert, cold indoors, etc). I used to shoot with iPhone 12 Pro Max with 4k60HDR. I came across overheating issues using my iphone but i was able to find OSMO Action and I’ve been managing well with that so far. Im looking for other options as well and wanted your input. I’m hoping to find a camera that shoots at least 4K, 1.5 hrs battery off a single charge, and it can be an action camera or even a DSLR/hybrid.

Great info, thanks David!

That's why I always ignore the "overheating" issue with these because it's a non-issue in their intended use. The bigger problems are lousy battery life and random freezing/shutdown.

The twist you're waiting for is that it takes 2X longer to overheat and shut down if there's airflow (e.g. outside). Hero10 is still worse than Hero9 in this regard. Saved you 15 minutes 👍🏼

I think this is a great video! I want to buy my first GoPro, and I was waiting for the 10 for a couple months. I was a little worried about the reported overheating issues, but this video made me feel better about it all.

Thank you very muchie for the detailed test. Just wondering if the gopro max 2 or the next insta 360 one x will come out soon

GoPro can say what ever they want, but the other cameras in the exact same situation - standing flat on a desk - did much better. And the DJI is a 2 years old model. Also, action cameras are used by many car KZreadrs. On those situations, the camera has to stand inside of a car, most of the times, with a very hot interior, with direct sunlight… GoPro is not my choice for an action camera.

@neloman28

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. A 2-3 year Osmo Action with the common denominator settings still beats the GP10 by a mile. Action cameras are notorious for getting hot. But the Osmo is relatively smaller than the GP10 yet still better in handling the heat.

@MrCruz_TEDM

2 жыл бұрын

DJI IS A BEAST. - TEXAS HEAT CAN'T EVEN STOP IT! Dji is all i use and wont go back anytime soon. Might even buy a few more just for more angles! Literally!

@jjsadv

2 жыл бұрын

@@neloman28 hahah, the DJI camera is good.. but lets not get carried away here.. the stabilisation on the GoPro has no equal.. anywhere..

@neloman28

2 жыл бұрын

It's true that Osmo Action lacks the best qualities the GP10 have but at the end of the day, I'd rather have a camera that I can rely on. Imagine capturing a once in a lifetime situation, then your GP10 dies on you in the middle of shooting. Imagine missing the money shot past 20mins of filming. Completely unacceptable for that price. It's like they know how to do it, but won't because they'd rather focus on pixels and stabilization. What good are those if you miss the shot of a lifetime because it decided to give up on you. Bottomline, I'd rather have piece of mind than extra megapixels that ain't noticeable anyways.

@jjsadv

2 жыл бұрын

@@neloman28 for critical footage I use a Sony in a gimbal. Not an action camera of any type.

I'm highly skeptical of GoPro's claim that "75% of all GoPro clips ever recorded, are under 1:10". Whether you're mountain biking, scuba diving, surfing, or skiing/snowboarding, no one is going to be stopping their camera every minute, that's absolutely absurd. To me that just demonstrates how out of touch GoPro is with their users, to think that they only shoot 1-2 minute clips, and I'd be curious to hear where they're getting that data from. Personally I'd say 90% of my videos are over 5 minutes.

great review, and heating test is really well done.