They could've easily added a permission that pops up 'Do you want to give the website access to advanced hardware statistics?" but no they just straight up block any other website from having it.

@luizmourabr

20 күн бұрын

That would be so useful...

@no_name4796

20 күн бұрын

And the code behind the accept and deny buttons is the same... Do you really think google just respects what you say when asked about cookies for example?

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium also has a backdoor. I highly recommend using Firefox

@DimkaTsv

20 күн бұрын

They could've. But then we could've risked getting this popup on almost every website, aren't we?

@timmeke_8213

20 күн бұрын

@@no_name4796 when does google ask for cookies? it's the individual sites that do that. and they're required to by EU law

Big companies try not to spy on your users: IMPOSSIBLE

@dacixn

20 күн бұрын

that's how they end up big companies in the first place

@noyes.

20 күн бұрын

Fatherless children trying to have an original thought: impossible

@Awesomium3

20 күн бұрын

@@noyes. atleast the joke is funny a little. why are you arguing first.

@noyes.

20 күн бұрын

@@Awesomium3 You sound like a smart Down Syndrome person

@velvetyredd

20 күн бұрын

@@noyes. literally what is the point is trying to argue or whatever you're trying to do. are you defending big companies or smth??

I use Firefox, partly because I have a feeling it's not in my interest to give Google Chrome too much market share. It might be annoying for web devs, but we need multiple browser engines. The other part of why I use Firefox is that Firefox is pretty great and I like it.

@mafioso12dk

19 күн бұрын

I use Firefox hardened with Betterfox for about a year and now I'm using Firefox on Linux for 1 month and I think I'm not going back to chrome and windows.

@thatwasntacatnip

18 күн бұрын

If it wasn't for containers I'd switch to Brave, but they are so convenient when it comes to multiple accounts on the same site.

@the-answer-is-42

18 күн бұрын

@@thatwasntacatnip Yeah, containers are awesome. It's a great feature, wish it was directly baked in rather than being an extension or highlighted more in some way because I think many people are unaware of it.

@the-answer-is-42

18 күн бұрын

@@mafioso12dk Interesting, I'll take a look at Betterfox.

@thatoneguy42145

17 күн бұрын

I’m actually considering fully switching from Google chrome to Firefox. Do you have any issues on Firefox I should know about?

More worrying is that this shit was in plain sight for apparently more than a decade and only now someone pointed it out

@nadtz

20 күн бұрын

It's disabled in ungoogled chromium and you can opt to disable it in brave so it's not like no one was aware of it, just that more people are aware of it now. I've had the option disable in brave for years.

@AlfaPro1337

20 күн бұрын

It's been there for years, yet, people dimissed it as 'important functionality' or make fun of others because 'Chrome is better, and you are using non-Spyware web browser'. People should stop using Spyware-based, regardless if it's been made by 'the most privacy concern' group. Underneath it's still Scroogle, and your argument will be "BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT'.

@modicool

18 күн бұрын

I've seen this for quite some time. But who am I? Who is anyone other developer? It only gets interest when people already dislike Google, otherwise you've got a bunch of boot lickers lining up to karma down your post to oblivion. It wasn't and still isn't worth it.

"its not like they are sending your browser history to google" LMAO

@BrodesVR

18 күн бұрын

DONT JINX IT

@33KK

18 күн бұрын

@@BrodesVR wdym? They're already doing it, it's literally a feature of browser sync if you're logged in to Google

@BrodesVR

18 күн бұрын

@@33KK oh

@2k18banvalaki5

18 күн бұрын

*Google Analytics Theme Song Intensifies*

As an Opera GX user, I already hand over all my data to papa Xi Jinping so this is just like tipping the waiter. I know I might get criticism, but I can’t live without my Wii themed Browser now that I have it.

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Same for Supermium

Do "evil". Do EVIL each and every time you can - Googleborg

@nugg3tmusic

20 күн бұрын

every villain is lemons

@jim9761

19 күн бұрын

Thats the (((sergey brin))) and (((larry page))) way.

Garbage company does underhanded thing. Water is wet and sky is blue.

@jed-henrywitkowski6470

17 күн бұрын

Technically, the sky is not blue. Your point is valid though.

it's not like anyone is surprised about this 💀

People should start using alternatives before things get as bad as when IE had a monopoly.

@the-answer-is-42

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, but almost all alternatives are just Chrome in a trenchcoat and a very mysterious hat, so it's harder to escape Chromes (and thus Googles) influence. Unless you use something like Firefox, that is, which I wish more people did.

@gabriel55ita

20 күн бұрын

​@@the-answer-is-42 but because of the google monopoly over the web engine Firefox is always behind chrome until something that balance the market comes

@the-answer-is-42

20 күн бұрын

@@gabriel55ita Perhaps, but if you don't want Google to have a monopoly, then Firefox or a Firefox based browser like Librewolf is your best choice. Or Safari, which iirc uses it's own engine as well. That said, I don't really have any issues with Firefox. Firefox is pretty good in my experience. If it's behind it's not behind in any way that actually matters to me.

@shirkit5798

20 күн бұрын

It's already as bad as IE era. I use Firefox only and can tell you i encounter DAILY sites that are "chrome only"

@TheUnlocked

20 күн бұрын

​@@gabriel55ita Firefox is often behind Chrome because Google is significantly more active in getting new standards implemented and shipped quickly. Safari is also typically behind Chrome for the same reason. It's not because Google has some monopoly.

Wow, the water is wet

This kind of feels like a feature someone left in and didn't check with legal. In a risk profit analysis how much profit would this kind of profiling even give? Probably a mistake.

@ValkTF2

20 күн бұрын

Bro trusts google 😭😭🤑

@necromaster998

20 күн бұрын

You think current year google hires can evaluate that kind of tradeoff 😂😂😂

@wilius1428

20 күн бұрын

I feel like you guys are a bit too cynical. It feels like an easy mistake to make if you don't know that browser regulation. And developers probably don't. As a developer myself I feel like I could easily make a similar mistake. Not to say this shouldn't be punished, it is negligence and should have been caught by the internal mechanisms at Google.

@FAB1150

20 күн бұрын

I don't feel like it's actually unfair advantage, because you could ask your users to add an extension that does the same, right? Sure, this one is here by default but it's not like they're gatekeeping you from doing the same.

@Multihaker10

20 күн бұрын

@@FAB1150Nobody is going to install some extension. This is an competitive advantage. Most people use chrome, so whats next? Bing always loads 50% slower?

Google getting caught?? So the sky is blue?

@gmdking

20 күн бұрын

In Washington state, the sky is white and gray all the time.

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium included

@AlexandreDuarteDM

18 күн бұрын

The ocean is blue, but the sky looks invisibly white

This seems like a kinda harmless debugging tool. But I hate Google, so eh, take em to court.

@toshibe2805

20 күн бұрын

Yeah I hold that same opinion lol

@KimeeZM

19 күн бұрын

The problem isn't so much the privacy of cpu utilization (so long as its use is properly rate limited to avoid cryptographic side channels), the problem is that is anticompetitive by not opening it to all websites.

never thought I would hear eric ever say "Caught In 4k" in my life

imagine using google chrome

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium included

they really dont wanna stop

"Google chrome is spying on me?" Always has been.

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium included

It's always the, "If you are not paying for it, you are the product"

Was it a mistake? All I know is Google went from being one of the most revered and beloved companies to one of the most hated because of stuff like this and all the other reprehensible nonsense they have done through the years.

I haven't used the Chrome browser in at least 2 years. It's not even installed on my computers. Its spyware.

14 күн бұрын

yes same instead i use other spyware for the CCP like opera and spyware for evil microsoft like edge, which keeps on memory leaking when i put windows to sleep and then waking it up, putting the rest of my system to a halt cuz 5 tabs start eating up 30GB ram. yes.

Add a dns adblocker and try to view a youtube video in chrome ... Your youtube tab will freak out and became unusable.

oh google...

@rizzing_mogger

20 күн бұрын

i prefer binging

@Dravenick

20 күн бұрын

Yahoo! They did the thing aol! Say, hopefully Microsoft doesn't turn Minecraft into one of their trackers!

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium included

@lewisbeith

20 күн бұрын

@@rizzing_mogger same

@ianmoore5502

20 күн бұрын

nice vulfified floppy profile pic

LibreWolf chads stay winning

@shirubaurufu

20 күн бұрын

High five

@balsalmalberto8086

20 күн бұрын

They shall inherit the earth.

@su1ka

20 күн бұрын

It doesn't play well on Linux with screen sharing.. 😢

@toxiccan175

20 күн бұрын

@@su1ka Disable hardware acceleration

@electric26

20 күн бұрын

​@@toxiccan175😥

this is the same people who are currently getting away with handicapping adblock so they can continue serving mr beast scam ads

Laughs in Firefox

@Ayana-Sasaki

20 күн бұрын

Librewolf or floorp. Don't trust Mozilla too much

@theairaccumulator7144

20 күн бұрын

@@Ayana-Sasaki this was in chromium itself and nobody spotted it

@aldproductions2301

20 күн бұрын

Worries in firefox vs chrome

That's why we need browsers that aren't controlled by corporations, nor are just forks of engines controlled by corporations. And that's why I like the idea of the Ladybird project!

sorry if i only listened to this have hartetly, but im pretty curios about the further conversation at 4:06, would it be a hassle for you to include the links to such posts or in that sense sources? or am i just missing the refs? Edit: meant "conversation at 5:58"

every 60 seconds in africa, a minute passes.

@yetntplayz

20 күн бұрын

thank you bro 🙏 I needed to know how many seconds are in a minute here

@noyes.

20 күн бұрын

@@yetntplayzhe said in Africa DUMBYYY

@DotMeister

20 күн бұрын

together, we can stop this. please spread the word.

@VaracolacidVesci

20 күн бұрын

God will reduce this by 1 sec for every 10k likes

@lussor1

19 күн бұрын

Africa is continent just like America

Next up: Google implements ConHoz in Chrome

Recently youtube started lagging SO MUCH that I'm seriously concerned if it actually pulls my entire history out.

randomly out of now where some of the browsers started putting their own task manager in them, this might have been a connection to this. i don't konw if i like it being shared, but it looks like it allows you too look at its workers alittle bit too.

labeling it as a "backdoor" in the thumbnail is clearly clickbait bruh

Google really starting to shiver my timbers 🥶🥶🥶

@toshibe2805

20 күн бұрын

Only just now?

so Arc is yet another chromium based browser?

@Reycko

20 күн бұрын

thats been on their faq for ages

Google being google...

this is the reason i reset my pc and never touched chrome again.

Are you using an ES version of Epyc 9654?

the grass is green

Imagine having 192 cores.

This is an escape hatch added to make doing a specific job easier. I'm sure it was probably put in by some well-meaning Google developer who didn't fully consider the implications. That doesn't keep those implications from being... not great, though.

Tried it on Chromium 126 on Debian 12, only got errors. Did not bring up any CPU info.

Damn, that is CREEPY. Why must we do these things over and over? Why can't a company just be GOOD for once?

@Gadtkaz

20 күн бұрын

Theres a reason they got rid of the "dont be evil" motto

@Kiki79250CoC

20 күн бұрын

Because your data is free money for them.

@PeeGoblin-jg6tu

20 күн бұрын

That's not profitable.

@huysuh

20 күн бұрын

dude it couldn't matter less not gonna lie

@etchickadee

20 күн бұрын

money

you added a space after allow pasting. thats why it didnt work

Google Chrome got caught doing what?

any website has info about your hardware before you click accept / deny cookies yes they should have made it visible in the extensions but as long as a browser / website does not take too much of a resources (for crypto mining etc) i do not have a problem with it

I don’t use Brave because of the ref they add in the URLs to get revenue, sketchy stuff

So, what I get from this is that there is a whole lot of fuzz about pretty much nothing. A debugging feature from 11 yrs ago that has not been made accessible for others and is poorly documented. But the actual information shared is pretty much useless in regards to privacy concerns and can be collected easily by any application on your system in the background to be shared with anyone. Why do people make such a big deal out of this?

@eDoc2020

16 күн бұрын

IMO the lack of privacy concern is solely because the data is only provided to the company who already has a way to access the information. If the data was available to random third parties it would be bad.

Video Ideas: Is Opera GX spying on you?

i use edge for for work, firefox for private stuff and bare chromium for webdev

I mostly use Brave on my laptop. Sometimes Chrome for translating some sites. On my phone I frequently use both Chrome and Firefox, and sometimes Brave.

Ya well, when Chrome was new, I read the fine print and promptly installed Firefox. Later Librewolf. "You have to watch ads to use Chrome"...I don't thinks so, Tim.

Is cheat engine a virus?

I don't view this as a big deal, but now that it's been brought up they should definitely tear it out and work with the relevant standards committee to create a JavaScript API for everyone to use, maybe with a permission popup like you see for location/microphone/camera.

someone mentioned on reddit that this feature could potentionally break adblockers?! any infos on that?

@exator911

20 күн бұрын

That is false. All this does is display system info, an adblocker is not affected by it cause it doesn't really need system info to function.

i got an opera gx ad on this. its like hitler and stalin having an argument.

do comparison of what is better brave or firefox. personally I use brave

While I am not surprised that Google is doing this, and probably so much more. I would love a ridiculously massive EU fine for the DMA violation based on 11 years and every Chrome based browser in that time. Should be fun.

Doesent that mean the chrome web store is also in breach of the DMA? It can manage extensions...

Let's stop using products that abuse us. Let's all start using transparent, open-source and/or source-available products and make the world a better place.

6:42 "allow pasting" didn't work the first time because you typed a space at the end.

NEXT: What happens when you connect Windows 7 to the internet in 2024

These very simply could have been taken care of via the old Microsoft way of just installing an automatic troubleshooter where one can install the extension and then be removed later.

A wild Google Chrome appeared Eric used Expose! 1144 damage to the Google Chrome Eric used Pokeball! Google Chrome was caught!

I use Floorp!

@Eric wait, you have a 192 core system? O_O

@Handler9

20 күн бұрын

is it dual CPU on a server board or something?

@eDoc2020

16 күн бұрын

I think it's really "only" 96 cores, 192 is the logical core count. I know his system is based on an AMD server platform. The latest versions can have 96 cores in one socket, I don't know if he has that or a previous version with 2x 48 core CPUs.

@eDoc2020

16 күн бұрын

@@Handler9 Somebody else identified the CPU as an engineering sample of the AMD Epyc 9654 CPU. So all 96 cores are in one socket.

Eric Parker? New spiderman or wtf?

2:52 well, this is part of Chrome, not Chromium the open source project, which makes it harder to catch.

If zoom wrote their own 9it would work too, nothing unfair about that at all. You could even write your own .....

Nah, I ditched everything chrome a while ago. I can't be bothered to babysit even more corporate spyware on my system.

While it's not a huge thing, it's important to wonder if there's more. With all of these multi-billion dollar companies, there always seems to be more.

"Of course it's not gonna show all of the cpu's on a 192 core system" .... WHAT?! Are you using an enterprise grade server or something?

@gorgnof

20 күн бұрын

LOL I'm wondering this too, what cpu lmao

@frostiefops

20 күн бұрын

​@@gorgnof probably an AMD EPYC of some description, given it's x64 and made by amd

@Journey_to_who_knows

19 күн бұрын

Gaming on NSA supercomputers

@Max_G4

18 күн бұрын

​​@@frostiefops it doesn't say it's made by AMD. The x86 64-bit architecture is made by AMD, Intel licenses it from them

@ate__

18 күн бұрын

Its an engineering sample of amd epyc genoa 9654 😳

video id is lowercase and has no numbers, insane

If it can't be used to identify users then by all means, take my computer temperature etc, to make the program better. I don't see why this should be an integrity problem at all, if it can't be used to access personal information of course.

@MrHerbalite

18 күн бұрын

It can be an issue if you know what you want to do. Most funnily it could be used to seriously cause Google wasting a lot of bandwidth. or even a launching denial of service attack on Google...

Google being an advertising company that thrives from your search history and information is the reason I’ve ran without it for 10 years. Firefox all the way 🔥🔥🔥

I only use edge when I absolutely have to ie for work and because ITV are a pile of junk and their streaming service doesn't work on firefox (for me at least). Otherwise I stick to firefox.

You know at this point I just gave up and decided to just surrender my data and privacy to my supreme tech giant lords ... Microsoft got my PC... And Google got my phone.... What a nightmare we're living in... There's nothin you can do without them (especially for work)

Is this in Ungoogled Chromium? How about Brave? Is it in ALL Chromium-based browsers?

so they collect CPU and RAM info for performance balance, with an ad-hoc script for a single deprecated/abandoned webapp that must be on seemingly at all times, in a browser that is google's property, and cannot be disabled unless it's not google's I must be getting something wrong

@CabbageBloke

20 күн бұрын

I think the issue is the app having access to data that you specifically are not aware of.

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium included

@kvolikkorozkov

19 күн бұрын

@@CabbageBloke and **surely** the only way it is being used for is to balance pretty animations vs performance automagically, honestly I see the issue with it being private info after all, but I still wonder how it could be used elsewhere, why else would google want it

@Max_G4

18 күн бұрын

​@@kvolikkorozkov How would you use such a thing for anything other than performance info?

@MrHerbalite

18 күн бұрын

@@Max_G4 Sending you more ads might be a reason, or ads that are matching the price-range expense of your hardware. For an ads selling company that is also one point to claim we know better than the competition how to serve ads to the user. It also opens up the stage to set up 3-rd party cookies to track anyone. I'm not saying Google did this, but these innocent looking things can and will be abused. Nothing is as innocent as it looks for companies that sell user data.

But Microsoft Edge does this too...

Firefox user and Chrome Hater here, and still think in this case it was just devs overlooking code, instead of Google trying to screw users (privacy) or competitors (disavantages). But the title of this video is borderline clickbait Eric... 😁

@HuzaBird0.2

20 күн бұрын

What u use then 😂

@lussor1

19 күн бұрын

Hopefully firefox fork, the default is worse in telemetry than chrome

Google doing shady things? 🤯

I'm sure glad to be a Firefox user

This isn't a backdoor. F this clickbait. Also chrome spying on you is nothing new, don't use it if you don't want that as I do.

there is no way in hell that he is running 192 cores on a PC.

I am mainly using Safari.

I dont think you know what a backdoor means....

wtf does he talk like that ?

google be like : oohhh nooo not again

Does ungoogled chromium have it as well?

love hearing those beautiful topre switches

It's a Chromium (Google Chrome's base) feature, not Google's. He illustrated it's usage in other Chromium based browsers. Also, Google did not invent Chrome, the built it using Chromium. Blame the original coders for Chromium for even putting this there to begin with. Google should have used this to also fix the memory leaking that occurs with KZread. For the KZread thing I've gotten 1mil+ K memory usage from KZread tabs in Chrome when I scroll far enough on any page. I think the worst is when I have the video paused and I scroll through comments (in desktop browser). It also happens sometimes on the home page (recommended) too, when I scroll long enough.

@SametKaratas-db1xu

20 күн бұрын

Supermium is included

@alicia9290

20 күн бұрын

The Chromium project was started by and is maintained and controlled by Google, with some outside developers and organizations submitting patches (which are approved and merged by Google employees in charge of the project). It was partially originally derived from WebKit (developed primarily by Apple) which did not have this hidden extension, which in turn was derived from KHTML (developed by the KDE project) which also did not have this hidden extension.

@CodeKali

20 күн бұрын

@@alicia9290 you do understand that this is basic telementary and almost all apps have something similar.

Firefox over here

"and of course we are not going to show all the CPUs on 192 core system" *me crying in broke*

IDK never liked chrome related browsers, Firefox for life (15 years of friendship)

Did they "do the right thing"?

I use Firefox on Linux Mint, and I have a handful of browser extensions such as uBlock Origin and Return KZread Dislike.

Honestly... I think those who are claiming anti competitive.. need to shut the fuck up. You want to do the same thing, get a plugin that only works when on your site, & for your software. That said, I think it's been used for more than just 'debugging' as google has had a oddly high rate of knowing how to target hardware to such a level it's insane. There are majore privacy issues at play... but I just can't with some things.

Firefox is my only browser.

This is a large W for me using Firefox.