I’m now just imagining aziraphale purposely not adding a way for wheelchair user to get in just to keep more people out of the shop lol, like eventually he’s just going to miracle away the doors

@King-of-Corvids

6 күн бұрын

And the windows lol

@RiverThief

6 күн бұрын

@@King-of-Corvids eventually the whole shop will be invisible to everyone but him, Crowley, and Muriel

Honestly the nonhuman nonbinary trope gets a bad rap but I think that the problem isn't that trope itself but the lack of human nonbinary characters in general, because it actually makes so much sense for nonhuman characters not to fit within the confines of gender because gender is a human social construct.

@ThePrincessCH

6 күн бұрын

That might also depend on what media classifies as non-human. In Chinese made fantasies, spirits are often depicted as regular animals with the ability to take on a human appearance, depending on their cultivation level (An example in folklore is "The Legend of the White Snake").

@asterismos5451

5 күн бұрын

Yeah like so many problematic tropes aren't bad in and of themselves, it's just the fact that we've seen them so much or not seen anything different enough that they become a problem. Like even all the lesbians dying in things, that would be fine if they were dying and surviving just as much as straight men in things but it was the fact that like every single lesbian character ever was dying and never getting a happy ending that made it a problem.

@localabsurdist6661

3 күн бұрын

Yeah I really like the nonhuman asexual trope as well… we just need more regular people ace rep

@Saturn_Drawz

2 күн бұрын

I like to write, and I’m writing faeries, and faeries don’t have gender. (At least in my version) I think this is fine personally, because all the characters are really human, fleshed out, and get a lot of angst.

As a Jewish person in my community the stance on disabled people tends to come from moses at the burning bush: Moses complains that he doesn't speak well and so pharo wont listen to him. God responds with: "And god said to him, “Who gives humans speech? Who makes them dumb or deaf, seeing or blind? Is it not I, god?"" And sends him to go anyway. Doesn't heal him. Only when moses begs not to have to speak god lets him bring his brother to speak on his behalf. From that the sages teach that god decides who is able and disabled and that we should do what we can with them, and seek accommodation where we struggle, and not to expect miraculous healing from god directly. Thats how my sect of Judaism treats it. Just if you wanted to know.

@KyleRayner12

6 күн бұрын

There's also an explicit line in Leviticus (19:14) about accessibility and discrimination: “You shall not insult the deaf, or place a stumbling block before the blind.”

@myaltaccount4438

5 күн бұрын

that's awesome

@Yk-mm6xt

4 күн бұрын

@@KyleRayner12 yes, however that line is more in regards to not taking advantage of the disenfranchised. I was specifically referring to the point on faith healing.

My whole family were huge fans of the book when I was growing up. As a result, it was *very* amusing to watch Season 1 with my mother, during which she at one point turned to me and asked, "Were they gay in the book? I don't remember."

@fishfish7985

6 күн бұрын

Gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide ( quote possibly misremembered)

@charleston1789

6 күн бұрын

I mean, it was pretty heavily coded in the book. A nightingale did indeed sing in Berkeley square at the end of it

@KyleRayner12

6 күн бұрын

@@charleston1789 My mom's a tad oblivious. She doesn't see Simon in Pirate Radio as queercoded even though there's a joke wherein he announces, "I'm getting married!" *five second awkward silence* "... to a woman!"

@charleston1789

6 күн бұрын

@@KyleRayner12 😆

The shop keepers spouse is played by Andrew O'Neill, one of my favourite comedians and real actual non binary person!

@mandysauro

3 күн бұрын

Lovely ❤😊

I love that Saraquel was not written with a disability in mind. The producer/writer/director/someone just thought that Liz Carr's humor and sarcasm were perfect for the part.

If you watch Aziraphale's eyes when he is giving the speech to Crowley in the bookshop about Heaven being "truth" and "light" and Crowley being "one of he bad guys" (he doesn't actually believe this) you can see him looking to his left again and again. The Metabastard (sorry I effing HATE him!) is standing across the road, facing the bookshop (you see him turn towards the shop after his discussion with Muriel about the book she is reading) and he is watching the argument between Azi and Crowley. It is possible, as the shop doesn't have double glazed windows, that he can also HEAR what is being said, or at least, Azi thinks he can hear their conversation, so he is trying to say what the Metatron expects him to say, whilst conveying to Crowley by looking left again and again, "The Metatron is listening, I can't say what I REALLY want to say. I love you too. Come with me to Heaven and we can fix it and be together properly, without Heaven and Hell's interference" This makes it even sadder, because Crowley can't read between the lines and he takes what Azi says at face value, that "Heaven is good, Hell is bad and you are not good enough as you are, so I want to make you into an Angel again." They can't communicate, but that isn't their fault, entirely, as they have been talking in code and not communicating for 6000 years, trying to protect each other from the wrath of their respective "sides" and not letting them know that they love each other. Boy, I am looking forward to these two finally sorting things out in Season 3, it's going to be a doozy!

@asthejayflies

13 сағат бұрын

ohoughmgh you just reminded me of a meta analysis on tumblr that said that aziraphale *knows* crowley was too good for heaven, has known for a *long* time, and wants to change heaven to be something crowley would be proud to be part of, because he remembers how joyous he was before he fell. how much he loved his work. agony

did you know that Maggie's actor is autistic and she has said recently she played Maggie in the show as autistic, it's worth mentioning that many autistic and ADHD people see themselves in various characters in the show, adding more to the disability rep. This is all without mentioning the diversity in BIPOC actors in the show, which is also amazing!! I also absolutely love Aziraphale as a character portraying religious trauma, as someone who has grown up in the church and is queer (and likely autistic as well).

@TheiaofMeridor

4 күн бұрын

I didn’t know Maggie Service was one of us! Yay

I literally wheezed at "armageddon't"

Our family was never explicitly religious (though I did attend an Episcopal private school for one year in junior high), simply noticing that the only disabled people who showed up in the story of Jesus were there to have the disabled identities erased was the first crack in my inherited worldview that led me to be an atheist. So yeah, having a wheelchair-using senior angel is a big deal.

My favorite thing about Good Omens is that Gaiman had no interesst originally in making a sequel and was only involved in the original project because Terry Pratchet, his friend who he came up with and wrote the original book idea with and who according to him, liked and cared about the book way more than him. SO he made sure to be part of the production for the sake of making sure it would be a good adaptation for the sake of his beloved friend who had died. Then as a result of working on the show, he got ideas for a continuation! Also apparently Azirafael and Crowley's friendship in the original book was apparently heavily based on their friendship

@letolethe3344

6 күн бұрын

"who according to him, liked and cared about the book way more than him." Can you tell me where Neil Gaiman said this? Because I've never heard or read of him saying anything about not caring much about the book.

@clarestubbs9303

5 күн бұрын

Actually, Neil and Terry planned a sequel together in a hotel room one night. They never wrote it down, but it was completely plotted. When Terry died he asked Neil to make the book into a tv show or film (Season 1) and after it was a huge success, Neil decided to make the sequel that they had plotted together into a tv show as well. Problem was, there was a gap between the end of Season 1 (and the book) and the sequel, where Azi and Crowley had to have been separated, so Neil wrote Season 2 to bridge that gap, and bring the plot to the point where it needed to be for Season 3 to begin. I hope this makes sense.

@Kris_not_Chris

5 күн бұрын

@@clarestubbs9303 ah, I was slightly off. It was a half remembered thing that I was told second hand a while ago, thanks for the clarification

Muriel is reading The Crow Road. Among other things, The Crow Road is about finding someone who has disappeared. Throughout the season are references to charcacters being written out of existence via The Book Of Life. It was established this season that Azi wrote extensive journals that have, presumably, been left in the bookshop. Muriel is left the bookshop and has an established desire to learn and read. Muriel has been styled as a policeman - who do investigations as a part of their job. Are people erased from existence or existence's memory? Because Crowley has expressed the ability to over come divine memory wipes.

I read an excellent analysis once that suggested that it's not quite as simple as Aziraphale buying into Heaven more than Crowley does into Hell. Basically, Heaven is the original cult: obey and agree with us on all things, or suffer the ultimate fate of Falling. The implication that there is nothing worse than to Fall, and the terror of being anything other than an obedient angel 1000% invested in Heaven, guides most of his early approach/attitude towards Crowley. There's an implied parallel between him and Nina, as he's trapped in a very unhealthy relationship with his community that binds his self-worth, identity, and sense of safety up in the fundamentally unstable ability to be a "good" angel, which he already knows he isn't by associating with Crowley. The reason he leaps to bring Crowley with him isn't just that he thinks Heaven is better. It's that he thinks he's finally been offered an opportunity to have his relationship with Crowley without threatening everything he's been told he needs.

@maryholden3454

Күн бұрын

Exactly this! 😭😭😭

I can see how Azi could be naive. And he didn't choose to separate from heaven like Crowley. He was forced... However, I don't think he is that naive. The smile at the end is an I've got a plan/intentions smile. During the attempted confession and kiss, Metatron was watching and Azi knew this. You can see him looking at the window. His phrasing is awkward and stilted. It looks at times like he is trying to communicate something. Afterwards there are a couple of moments of Azi seeming to look for excuses, reasons to delay/stay. I don't think he has been won over by Metatron. He just would have preferred to have Crowley there with him.

@dmrmkw

6 күн бұрын

Yes! After several re-watches, I'm fairly certain that the Metatron left Azi with no choice at all. Give me coffee (agree to re-join heaven) or give me death (of Crowley?). It's just that the final part of E6 is so packed with emotion -- and such amazing acting by David and Michael -- that we, the viewers, are hyped up on that emotion. We're only following the surface story at this point, carried along by the wave. But this show has so many layers, it's unreal. And I don't think Azi has anything to apologize for. Neither of them communicated this season.

Good omens fans rise up!

@antonellamR2D2

4 күн бұрын

All the little angels rise up rise up!

The production hired a few actors with various disabilities for the angels who came to Job and his family

This is my reminder that i should watch Season 2 even though i am very scared 😟

@milamila1123

7 күн бұрын

Why are you scared?

@noroiwithzbeat

7 күн бұрын

I honestly recommend watching it, though.. the last maybe 15 minutes of the last episode may be a bit rough to watch so i do understand being kinda scared. But it was worth it, at least for me (despite being emotionally unstable afterwards). So yeah, if anything, I would just mentally prepare myself when nearing the end of that episode.

@MidoriyamaRArekusu

7 күн бұрын

Season 2 is a delightful season; the last quarter hour might be painful but the rest of the season is absolutely worth it. The mini-sodes alone are worth the hurt. And we all know season 3 is going to happen.

@letolethe3344

6 күн бұрын

It is in general sweet, hilarious, romantic, thought-provoking and witty.

I’d like to take this opportunity to hype one of my favorite fanfics (of any fandom), Demonology and the Triphasic Model of Trauma by Nnm: As soon as Aubrey Thyme, psychotherapist, had opened her office door and seen her new client, Anthony J. Crowley, sitting in her waiting area, she was observing and assessing him. At first glance, she paid attention to the following: --His clothing was expensive and stylish; --He wore very strange but noticeable cologne; --His relationship to the seat he occupied could only, very loosely, be described as “sitting;” --He looked angry; --He was wearing sunglasses. What Aubrey Thyme, a professional, thought, upon first seeing her new client was: you’re going to be a fun one, aren’t you?

@GhostKingDeAngelo

5 күн бұрын

Ooh that seems cool Edit: i found it. Literally just search up “demonology and the triphasic model of trauma” on google and its the first result. It’s on AO3 and the author is Nnm like OP said

@charlol-z

5 күн бұрын

This is absolutely one of my favourites, I totally recommend reading it.

@GhostKingDeAngelo

5 күн бұрын

I just got to chapter 10 and ITS SO GOOD! Highly recommend everyone who sees this to go read it

@mglouise97

5 күн бұрын

Thank you for this rec. I finished this video earlier today and I have done nothing else but read that fix in its entirety in one sitting. It was amazing. I sobbed through the entire last chapter. The Aziraphale one is apparently finished so onto that one next. Thank you for giving this rec and changing my L I F E

@CoreenMontagna

4 күн бұрын

@@mglouise97 you are so welcome, and I’m so glad some new people now have read this. And she literally just finished the sequel this week!

I love love love you commenting on my favorite show But, in fact, you missed another disabled angel! In the Job Minisode, when Gabriel and the Heavenly Folks come to give back Job everything he lost, a male angel stands on the left and this actor only has one arm. You can see it very good in Minute 35:40! God created mankind in THEIR own image... and angelkind too

@clarestubbs9303

5 күн бұрын

Also in the same clip there is an Angel with Down's Syndrome. 💖

@Rabarbara91

5 күн бұрын

I have not spotted them now 🤩

Liz Carr unexpectedly popping up in shows I watch like The OA, Witcher, Loki and Good Omens. I randomly watched this 2021 movie Infinite and BLAM there she is!

@channyh.221B

5 күн бұрын

I first watched her in 'Silent Witness' and she was so good in that, it's obvious when I saw her in this season, I squealed, though I wish she had a little bit more screen time.

I have never watched good omens, but will sure do now

@clarestubbs9303

5 күн бұрын

Strap yourself in, it's going to be a great ride! Watch Season 1 first (obvs) to get the background. Let us know how you get on!

Me: hmm… what should I watch with my breakfast of buttered and 🍓 jam English muffin?! Oakwyrm: (uploads new video!) Me: oh here we go!

In Hell; Furfur was seen to be wearing a backbrace. 19:39

there are even more visibly disabled angels in the background of the Job minisode!

Such a good essay on these points, the visible disability aspect hadn’t occurred to me (as my disabilities are ‘invisible’) and I love what the show did with it. Plus to say I was squeeing in delight at all the queerness this season is an understatement

One of my favorite shows honestly ^^

My biggest fear is that Crowley and Aziraphale will turn into humans in the end. This would theoretically fit their arc, but would be a bad ending.

@TheQuietTyper

6 күн бұрын

Especialy how in the first season it says that form affects nature, with how the hell hound turned into a small mutt, and began to act like one within days of its transformation. Crowley and Aziraphale spend millenia appearing as humans.

As a queer and disabled Christian, it is wonderfully refreshing. It hurts when people make jokes in the queer community about people like us not being able to get into heaven due to our existence (and also when cishet people say it not as a joke, of course), so it is so nice to see a piece of media that really commits to disability, gender, and sexuality not entirely mattering to angels and demons.

As someone who is both queer and disabled, I found Good Omens 2 not only incredibly entertaining but also almost... healing. I grew up in a Christian cult that practiced faith healing and conversion therapy (I escaped after 25 years). Seeing an angelic being share my disability when church reassured me my whole life that I would feel my death was a blessing when I got to heaven, because my imperfect body would be stripped away and would no longer be a "problem" like it was on earth. And seeing a Sapphic couple actively being rooted for, and non-binary pronouns respected by divine beings all at the same time... I nearly cried multiple times watching Good Omens 2. Fuck people who say representation doesn't matter.

There is more subtle but visible disability in season 2. Take a closer look at the angels that are with Gabriel and Michael at the end of episode 2. I remember one of the having Down syndrome and one is missing an arm.

Faith healers? I never heard of them…oh wait it just came to me. They’re trying to be Jesus. Oh that’s very bad. Also I real want to watch Good Omans now.

@Albinojackrussel

6 күн бұрын

I don't like faith healers, and I think most are trying to be cult leaders but... the bible does specify that any church elder can heal the sick through prayer. So they're just doing as the bible instructs.

I too hope we get more Liz Carr in season 3. She was great. I suspect that Doug McKinnon recommending her for the role also led to hiring disabled extras as well. Not that Gaiman would have been opposed to this. But I suspect that his conversation with Liz might have moved him farther in this direction (I hope someone asks him in an interview). Did you notice the angels in the background of the Job minisode? One had one arm. And another appeared to have Downs syndrome. I thought it was another wonderful reminder that "perfection" as it's understood by heaven includes bodies of all sorts.

great video! I firmly believe Saraqael will become an ally in season 3 for thwarting the Second Coming because of one single moment. Remember when Crowley was in heaven with Muriel looking into what happened to Gabriel? When Saraqael gets there, she not only is not hostile towards Crowley (she does reprimand Muriel, though, if I'm not mistaken) when she talks about having met him and worked with him before he fell, but she encourages Crowley to watch Gabriel's trial and understand what was going on. Also, I recently noticed the paralel between both finales (both Aziraphale and Gabriel commit "treason" by not cooperating with Armaggedon. Aziraphale gets kidnapped and sentenced to death while Gabriel is given a trial. Not a really fair one, that's true, but it was still a trial)

Thank you for this video! I'm writing an essay about disability in media for my finals, and this is one more example I can add, I hadn't even thought about it

I’ve been writing a story with a none biblical heaven / hell I’ve had to consider how Life and Soul work together. Soul is personality while life is body and work together but Soul goes to afterlife while body is left behind Disability’s will always effect the soul even with out life. If you were paralyzed and went to this version of heaven you could stand or move slightly but you don’t get all control back, all feeling back. You get minor improvements but it not fixed I have Tourette’s to this story my tics would no longer effect me I have no physical brain to cause the tics but those traits I have because of my brains development (I present with autistic traits while not having the survaroty of Autism itself thank to the tourrets brain) those trait will vary over it’s an aspect of who I am and my disablity. Same with dyslexia, I will always struggle even if my brain which was the disabled part is gone Every disablity is different but they don’t just completely disappear and that’s something I’ve really had to think about for this storyline and the setting

I loved the queerness of season two, and the disability rep too. About the difference of view between Aziraphale and Crowley, someone did an excellent job of explaining it (I don't remember who or where I read it unfortunately) : Aziraphale thinks the system is corrupted and must be healed ; Crowley thinks the system works as it was intented to and must be destroyed.

Well I know what I'm watching this weekend. Didn't even know there was a season 2.

Hi! Could you talk about the disabled representation on season 3 of Brigerton? I'm kinda loving the way Francesca and her beloved are very autistic in my eyes

Would you like to make a "Murder drones" video?

When I first saw the second season, I was a bit stunned by the tonal shift, though. The first season felt more like a romantic comedy, and the second one kind of felt like a different show entirely; it's like comparing Lewis Caroll to Charles Dickens. Then again, Gaiman had to write this without Pratchett, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

@channyh.221B

5 күн бұрын

Strange, I thought of the first season as an adventurous-comedy and the second season as a romantic-comedy....

@ThePrincessCH

5 күн бұрын

@@channyh.221B Well, either way, the first season felt more like a comedy than the second one.

@solve756

4 күн бұрын

Gaiman wanted to follow the spirit of the book he and Terry wrote together and not change things too much for the first season. Season 2 is a bridge to take us to season 3 which is the story he and Terry had plotted as a sequel and much more Aziraphale/Crowley focused than the book and season 1.

really great video! do you watch Doctor Who by any chance? i feel like there's so much ground you could cover on queerness and disability in a video like this even in just the newest season alone!

AHHH I've been a fan of yours for a while now and I am so excited that you are covering one of my all time favorite shows!!!!

I only hope that i get this much right with the inclusivity in my WIP, because obviously my writing talent is vastly inferior to Neil Gaiman and Sir Terry Pratchett's. 😂

Fantastic analysis of the themes and characters! Well done! What're your favourite parts from both Season 1 and 2, Oakwyrm? 😀 I'm unfortunately very lukewarm on Season 2, I found the pacing to be all over the place, and a lot of comedic scenes made me wince instead of laugh. The pandemic might've done a number on production stability, but that's just my own speculation. The last two episodes I did like somewhat [though the last 15 minutes had me yelling 'Go back! Go back!' repeatedly]. I really wish I liked it more. Here's hoping Season 3 will be amazing. Also, something I noticed: in season 1, or, the script for season 1, it's mentioned that B's pronouns are zeeee/ziiiir [because, flies]. So I wonder if that was a deliberate change for Season 2 or just a mistake?

@ThePrincessCH

6 күн бұрын

Yeah. The tone shift between the two seasons felt like comparing Lewis Caroll to Charles Dickens.

yay!!

THIS VIDEO MAKES ME SO HAPPY I LOVE GOOD OMENS SO MUCH! SO MUCH!!! IT IS SO QUEER AND AMAZING AND AHHHHHHHHH

actually there are more characters from season 1, maggie and nina were the 2 main nuns in the hospital

@briceysweeney81

6 күн бұрын

There were several ACTORS who appear in both seasons but Shax, Maggie, Nina and Furfur are new characters just played by actors who also appeared in S1. Jim is actually still Gabriel although we don't get to the truth about that until the last episode. Which is why most fans call him Jimbriel.

A few actors are repeated which s a tad confusing

Dunno if this is allowed but could you please someday cover the movie Tokyo Godfathers? Has a canon trans woman in the main trio and she's amazing and I adore your reviews so I'd love to see your thoughts! Got a whole dub in 2020 too that made the rep more explicit so yea

I loved your video essay! Agreed; it's a wonderfully queer show.

OK fine i will go whatch good omens ( ihavd whwtcged it 10000 times ) ,,, there is queernes in the book , there was more queernes in the first series , there was so much queernes in the second seris , we can only hope feven more in the second seris ( god usess in the first seris she her by the angle,s)

@ThePrincessCH

6 күн бұрын

What do you mean by there was more queerness in the first series?

@channyh.221B

5 күн бұрын

@@ThePrincessCH Maybe they meant that the first series was written by Charles Dickens and ... oh no, it must have been Lewis... oh no, wait, there must be something that can make you shit on Gainman in every comment, whilest Terry actually was very happy to work with him and even became .... (dare I say it?...) friends. Now you can continue whining about it, but it's never going to change the fact that you will hate Season 3 even more, cause guess who's going to write that too?!!! (enter evil laugh)

@ThePrincessCH

5 күн бұрын

@@channyh.221B Where did I say I didn't like Gaiman?

: )

Personally, I was so disappointed with how they handled Crowley and Aziraphales relationship. I related so hard to them as a great representation of asexual (and possibly aromantic) life parters. But the new season completely undermines this take and it honestly broke my heart. This show was the first time I looked at a couple and thought "that is what I want" and losing that hurt.

@ichhabzuvielehobbys1276

7 күн бұрын

I feel similarly. This is one of the reasons the book remains one of my favorites but the show is no longer one. I have seen a lot of other people be really happy about this turn of events and I want to be happy for them but I was just...sad. They are for me, life goals when it comes to a QPR and i was dissapointed when that felt like a reading that no longer fit the show

@simply_nebulous

7 күн бұрын

They can still be asexual.

@Carlos-bz5oo

6 күн бұрын

They can't still be asexual. They're not exactly slapping each other's asses or fucking the eyesockets

@ThePrincessCH

6 күн бұрын

When I first saw the second season, I was a bit stunned by the tonal shift. The first season felt more like a romantic comedy, and the second one kind of felt like a different show entirely; it's like comparing Lewis Caroll to Charles Dickens. Then again, Gaiman had to write this without Pratchett, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

@dmrmkw

6 күн бұрын

I suspect, but also hope, that their relationship remains asexual. But what happened in the Final Fifteen had nothing to do with showing love. Neil Gaiman even posted about it saying as much. Something happened during that moment, I don't know what yet, but something happened. We may just have to wait until S3. As Neil said, if you couldn't tell that they loved each other before that moment, you probably won't ever get it.