Not sure what hardasses these judges are trying to play. Some of these lifts were so legit that i kind if cringed at their decisions.

@filipnorberg1338

4 жыл бұрын

R. Lohengramm Miserable people who have never had authority over someone in their lifes and takes it out on innocent lifters, pathetic

@thebeyonder4113

4 жыл бұрын

Some judges haven't even lifted a day in their lives lmao, for example the chairman of the IPF.

@liammorgans7329

4 жыл бұрын

rcmunro22- I think the issue is that different people have different sized/shaped thigh muscles so it’s hard to tell if the femur is at depth.

@JasonLee-gy5ch

4 жыл бұрын

@@rcmunro22 All those lifts were good.

@rcmunro22

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasonLee-gy5ch Agreed.

Some judges would red light Clarence Kennedy for depth tho

@deficitstifflegzercherdeadlift

4 жыл бұрын

*ass smacks his ankles* *red light*

@yanniblumstein1

4 жыл бұрын

Ass smacks the ground Red light

@adambeer1171

4 жыл бұрын

*ass grazes his toes* 🔴🔴⚪

@TheMeanBean322

4 жыл бұрын

@@yanniblumstein1 leaves a crater in the ground Red light

@i_booba

4 жыл бұрын

These comments are great, thanks for the laughs.

That hafthor lift was robbery and I don’t even like him.

@relaxwithmeandtakesomtea8262

4 жыл бұрын

I dont like him either but god damn the judges where harsh

@dongholio707

4 жыл бұрын

Hafthor's was a good ol' toss-up.

@jamessopkin

4 жыл бұрын

Southern Fun thank you for for the story big tough guy 😎

@SS-iu1re

3 жыл бұрын

Dr retardo yeah that’s bs and you know it lol. Also there would be some evidence if he did, for example she would not be walking right now. Also he said that he supposed hit them have you seen this dude if he hits something it’s obviously going to leave a mark, especially if it’s out of anger, and you want to tell me that there was no evidence of any of this?

@Skippyx

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, there's something off about him. Not surprised by his history

I forgot squat depth is achieved when the lifter leaves a stain on the platform.

The sad part about Thor's is that his second lift looks like the highest of the three from the angle we get.

@TrenbologneSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

100% That's the only one that should have been red lighted

@sananton2821

7 ай бұрын

no

As soon as i read the title i thought of Hafthors 3rd squat

@gr3dxdsuh865

4 жыл бұрын

@Gore4ever FulciLives strongman is strongman... If they (top tier strongmans) would train strictly for 3 lifts they would break current records multiple timea

@nk0723

4 жыл бұрын

Thor was robbed hard. The first person to squat 1000 and dead 900 in the same meet in my eyes

@bertiec1593

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Shame that there isn’t footage from either side though. Squats are hard to judge just from the front.

They wanted Jesse to squat with his hips buried into the ground 😓

Its as if the judges are choosing who wins that day, instead of judging the actual lifts.

@Hhhlll7778

4 жыл бұрын

It's a rigged sport

@troycross2858

4 жыл бұрын

As someone who has competed in powerlifting it for sure is rigged. I’ve had deadlifts called for hitching for smooth lifts and seen some even worse calls for other people. It really took the fun out of competing.

@jameshoffman3614

4 жыл бұрын

@@troycross2858 I have been training for the past 7 years and was planning on doing a comp in the near future. But after seeing the misload with Maddox and other vids I'm kinda discouraged from ever doing a powerlifting comp. This bullshit is keeping powerlifting from growing into the sport it could be.

Some of these lifts are so good that you kinda have to think maybe the judges were being biased for some reason or another.

Thanks for putting this together - still pissed at the way Norris was being held to a higher standard just ‘cause he’s Norris imo.

@mossoconnor4417

4 жыл бұрын

Which really sucks, because he’s had some injuries and his back is pretty much fucked now, his record might have been even higher if they had passed a few more of his lifts

I'd be pissed. We had our trainers checking depth for our lifting club and I got told that I wasn't deep enough after the bar was resting on the safeties. The guys in the cage next to me were way more angry than I was 😂

@enricopravato6677

2 жыл бұрын

maybe lower the safeties?

@ilovemsminutes5833

2 жыл бұрын

@@enricopravato6677 maybe the judges should grow a brain

@enricopravato6677

2 жыл бұрын

@@ilovemsminutes5833 it wasn't the judges telling him, the trainer was, which means that probably he wasn't going low enough

Jessie Norris is a legend for not kicking some judging arse that day. What a travesty.

@alexisvnc

4 жыл бұрын

Geoffrey Verity Schofield Joey Flexx that was handling him at the meet said that after the 771lb deadlift 2nd attempt where he got red lighted Jesse said “I’m done with this” and threw away his belt. The year before he got red lighted twice on squats with a controversial call at 733lb lol

powerlifting really is a joke in a lot of situations

@qwert12345asdfgzxcvb

4 жыл бұрын

It's the most "joke" sport in existence. Joke organizers, joke equipment, joke spotters, joke judges. Like something some people started in the backyard, and after many decades some how managed not to improve in quality.

@furymern8162

3 жыл бұрын

@@qwert12345asdfgzxcvb at least still better than crossfit

@BigUriel

3 жыл бұрын

@@furymern8162 For all its flaws, at least crossfit managed to put together a major organization with qualifying competitions all over the world and one annual top competition where the best people in the sport can all come together and compete under the same rules to see who's best and cash in a pretty decent check for their effort. They also do a good job setting up the stage for the competition and manage to draw in a crowd and get TV coverage. All of these are things you can't say about powerlifting, where it's still just a bunch of amateur federations each defending that their rules and records are the "right" ones, where you have this kind of shitty judging, grossly negligent organization for example when it comes to equipment and spotters, the prize is a plastic trophy and a picture on the wall of the local gym and the only people watching are the lifters' friends and family.

These lifts are absolutely brilliant! I can kind of empathize a bit with Ray's lifting only because his legs are so massive that sometimes it's tough to see how low his hips are. You can clearly see that all lifts go lower than parallel.

@TrenbologneSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

All except for Thors 2nd, it was the only high lift in this video

They should implement a green light system that only lights up when the depth has been achieved. Those lifts were legit.

Fire all these judges unbelievable absolutely ridiculous robbing these men of their hard earned records!!!!

Simple solution - hi-res cameras record the squat from 3 angles, a bright colored sticker is to be placed on the joints and software judges the lift based on the angle the connected stickers make. It's 2021, it could be done really easily.

@BestKiteboardingOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

100% how to do it. Like you do when getting a bike fitted.

Another quality video like always

These are the same “professionals” that oversee lifts like Julius Maddox’s recent fiasco. They haven’t got a clue 😅

Ray's squats are mega high in training and I question his comp depth, too

@UTBanjo

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

The fact that these “judges” can get away with these calls just shows you how corrupt powerlifting is. Couple that with the “benchpress exorcisms” and it’s no wonder why powerlifting is losing respect.

@makaan699

3 жыл бұрын

and sumo deadlifts

Ray's gut is obscuring the Judge's view.

1:03 “Soft Knees”. Wtf does that even mean? That looked clean as hell

@standepain

2 жыл бұрын

It means not locked out.

@jimservu

2 жыл бұрын

@@standepain I’m aware of what it means. I’m just saying that looked clean and was a dirty call,

Rays depth has always been questionable, but you can say that about ALL the super heavies. Their legs are so thick and bellies so big, you can’t possibly see the hip crease go below the knee

I've honestly always thought that Ray William's depth was iffy, he looks too high when he stops tbh

@ncdozer3103

4 жыл бұрын

His legs are just so big lol

@SandorJazz

4 жыл бұрын

When a lifter is that big you have to look more at the butt and hamstrings to see just how low they are going. The quads are so big that it creates the illusion they aren't going as deep as they actually are. Ray was super deep and absolutely should have gotten white lights.

@robertgammett8718

4 жыл бұрын

@@SandorJazz I'm aware, but he still doesn't appear to hit depth sometimes. I admire him but there are times where it is honestly iffy.

@mohawk3371

4 жыл бұрын

@@SandorJazz The crease of the hip was not below the top of the knee.

@thebigmack5035

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohawk3371 maybe true but when you're a bigger man like ray you're crease is going to be higher because of the sheer size of this legs and torso for instance his hips are lower than his knee but because theres so much muscle and fat around the bone it gives the impression hes not below the knee. i honestly think a squat should be judged on how low your balls are from the floor if you're balls line up with you're calfs than you're squatting to the right depth hahaha

Love the commentary!!

the fact that some of these judges never touched weights in their whole life

I think Eddie is there when Hafthor is squating

@kimaboe

3 жыл бұрын

@Tyler Vincent Pretty sure that was a joke, dude. :p Also, didn't Kirill only do the bench that time? I've never seen vids of his other lifts?

ray william's and thor's third attempts were actual robbery

This is heart wrenching to watch... these people put so much into their work and are pulling some seriously impressive shit only to have some judge say “nah, he probably could have squatted a little deeper.” 😫

same judges that will say an arched bench is a good lift

@TrenbologneSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

2" ROM super-arch and hands as wide as physically possible, literally just lifts off and re racks: 3 white lights. Actually lifts the weight with a reasonably narrow grip and relatively flat back using full ROM and pectoral/Tricep power: 3 red lights and your car got keyed

They need VAR for lifting

Great guys with great lift

The judges play with the health of the lifters, making them repeat a gigantic efford more times.

Baffled by the comments about Thors last lift being robbery. He could have been given it but it would have been very lucky! The 440 lift was a gift. Don't get me wrong if I hit the same depth for the same split second on a PB in the gym I would count it but powerlifting rules are always more strict. Who paused on their chest when doing their max bench press in the gym for instance :).

Tbf, I always thought the ipf is letting Ray get away with questionable depth because he was their poster boy. The way He hyperextends his back makes it pretty much impossible to hit depth for anyone

@themetsfan861

4 жыл бұрын

He's also giant. SHW squat judging tends to be a bit laxer than it is in other weight classes.

Nice video!!

I like the whistle at the beginning

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We dont see side view, from the front u cant call if squat was good or not tbh

@blackeesh463

4 жыл бұрын

If it doesn' seem high as shit from the front, it's a good lift.

@JeffO-

4 жыл бұрын

At least you're honest.

@lt7601

4 жыл бұрын

From the top, it's the best view. 😂

There's also Big Z's 2000 red light on deadlifts when he locked out for 10 secs straight

Make a video of good red lights that got made depth

Ray and Thor's squats were both high, Can see why they were red lighted.

The judges be jelly XD

Ray's squats were high by IPF standards. Thor's depth was also borderline, depending on the federation. Jesse's red lights were the most egregious.

Thanks for listening to requests

It's so frustrating to see perfectly good lifts getting red lighted, when some lifts are an absolute shambles and they still count.

I think Thor got screwed because he's so tall. Maybe that's why his squat looked "high" (from the judge's angle)

you know that feeling when the music is louder then the guy speaking.........

Judges: The athlete MUST sweep the floor with their cheeks in order for the squat to count 🤓....

What is even worse is that there are so many bad lifts that got 2 or 3 white lighted.

I’m surprised in this day and age they don’t have some type of adjustable “box” with a weighted sensor that when you put maybe 5-10lbs of pressure on it it emits light/sound something to ensure this stuff doesn’t happen. Look at swimming for example, gotta hit a device to lock in your time when you finish

This has been the problem with powerlifting forever. These judges are blind. It will never change!

Jessie's last squat, and Ray's squats were high. Glad some people still enforce depth. That being said, Hafthor's squats did look low enough.

I was a competitive powerlifter for over 20 years. I was never an elite lifter and was totally natural (other tha protein powder and creatine) so I was out the because I enjoyed the sport and wanted to try to push my PR's to a new limit each meet. I was never a threat to set any major records, but I was amazed and frustrated by the lack of standardization of judging between federations. I was also surprised at the lack of standardization between different judges themselves within each federation. After the 2000 season I started competing solely in Ironman (bench and deadlift) because I never knew the true definition of squat depth. Even in Ironman I still found that was still a big discrepancy between judging between federations...especially in the deadlift. I've been in competitions where none of the judges were certified, even at the state level, but were allowed to judge simply because the federation couldn't find anyone to judge the competitions. I've even seen lifters who were competing again other lifters within their class used as judges to judge the lifter they were competing against. That's why the sport has such a hard time getting national recognition and credibility. The Julius Maddox debacle on ESPN certainly didn't help this situation either.

There's no way that 3rd squat from Jesse Morris should have got any red lights! Mental

2:15 Thor double dipped

@makaan699

3 жыл бұрын

cringe Eddie got the WSM 2017 events picked for him, with last minute changes. That was the real controversy not some viking press theatre.

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Jesse's knees were already almost up to his fucking chest. What the fuck did those judges want more?

I have inly done one full power meet, but a proper squat required the crwase of your hip to be even with your knee. Some of these were high by that standard, but each federation has their own rules and will make glaring exceptions for certain lifters.

Is there anything like a replay so they can see it again before deciding if it was good or not

Why don't they tape a thin line down the femur from centre of patella to hip to use as a reference? That would remove any argument.

I think depth should all be based on the person squatting like before the meet the officials check everyone’s squat depth but then that would be so hard to do and the amount cheating that would come with it wouldn’t be fair

2:45 Michael Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad

Wow I feel horrible for that first dude

Cant have a strongman coming in an dominating powerlifters can they

The 926 red light squat was deeper than his 970 good squat.

I came here to just say ,that what she said .

@LiftingVault

4 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for you

I see this more with the bigger lifters, as their hips can be slightly obscured by their mass. Sometimes I have to wonder if some of the international judges are on the take. Depending on the federation, they can be quite a small circle at the top. Who knows?

My hamstrings touch my calves when i squat but i still get some people telling me it isnt atg then i just tell them you try squating my depth with 6"8 frame xD

Ray got robbed, theres no question he hit depth there.

farmari87 Thor's hip-strenght is out of limits. He just explodes from the bottom.

When the judges are drunk then it is always difficult to lift 😒

Funny that all of these lifters are extremely popular. Whenever a popular lifter gets reds people claim they were "robbed"

Use garage door openers to trigger a good lift if the beam is broken. Set it up to the squatters butt?

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they straight up bullied jesse norris to the point where it seems he could have done nothing about it.

they got Hoffed!

I’m all into weight lifting so I don’t know the rules of powerlifting but does powerlifting have juries who can over turn the referee’s decisions ? Also can you contest the judge / jury’s decision by looking at the replay ? Think this is the only fair way. Of course in weightlifting as well it’s still a gray decision at times even with these systems because after all they’re all humans and I feel they’re biased at times.

Thors second lift was high, while his 1st and 3rd were to depth, was he competing in opposite day?

can we get the opposite video next :D? bad lifts that got white lights ?? :D

They probably weren’t watching and took someone else’s word for it

Jessie buries his squats

What i can see from front angle Jessies first lift was okay in deepth but the other 2 are not from a front view and yes hes knees was soft on the deadlift...Thor ones should be looked more into.

Issue is that; these guy's hips and thighs are so huge, it makes judging from any direction hard.

we not gon speak on hafthor quick explosion ?

Wow...

It was an awful call on Thor’s squat. If he had been given it he would have had the second highest total of all time at that point in history and would still have the fourth highest of all time now. He was definitely trying to win everything strength related in 2018. After dominating strongman that year I’m sure he had the heaviest PL total of all time planned for that meet. Grip issues let him down though and he couldn’t get the deadlift that would have given him that accolade (without the dodgy squat call that is). Shame.

Do a bad lifts that got green lights

In powerlifting tree judges will give you zee sreee red lights for no reason end of story

Why isn't there a replay system

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Why don’t they have camera’s look at it and software measure it exactly?

Do the judges want their asses to touch the floor or something, this is just ridiculous

They red light good depth on squats but white light 1 inch ROM on bench. fucking ridiculous

Also Aleksey Nikulin should be mentioned here. He got robbed multiple times in multiple meets by judges who red lighted his ATWR squat. His 1st attempt kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKeKwbWmhrqdabw.html&feature=emb_logo and 2nd attempt here kzread.info/dash/bejne/jI1m2bSQaNbadKg.html, both looked good IMHO. Incomparably better than Dallas Norris and Tom Kallas quarter squat WRs.

In IPF worlds depth is stricter - the red lighted squats from Williams in this video look also bit too high for me.

The last lift on the video was okay. You have to break the horizontal plane at the knee, not deep down. The last lifts by these guys were okay, but Hafthor’s first squat and the small guy’s first deadlift were not locked out. I used to be a referee.

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