Thank you for doing that bit with the Modern Rogue guys. It was wonderful to learn about Chinese tea drinking and have made myself busy watching everything about it on here. I hope you return to do more with those two guys soon! Thanks for the all the effort you put in for these videos. Wonderful resource of information you willingly teach other. Now to just set some money off to the side to get the tools.

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! We loved having tea with the boys. Tell them you want to see more of us!

Was so stoked to see this go up! I loved your Lychee Gummy tea-got me into the wonderful world of YELLAH TEAAAA thanknyouuuas alwayssss

Your videos have taught me so much about my new found love of tea ☕💗. Thanks for the content keep it coming 😊

Been waiting for another one of these!

Thank you, GREAT video, I'm so glad I found your channel!

Definitely about to enjoy this video!

ALRIGHT!!! Love these videos!

Heartwarming and delightful!!

I love your videos! I always put them on to watch and learn while I brew Tea, looking forward to your next upload 😊🍵

@TeaHouseGhost

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey So-Han... just got back to the US... thanks for a welcome home video :-D I always love learning more about less taught attributes of tea and food like the heating and cooling. When I was at the tea house they said white tea is used for emotional times, it's good to know green tea is cooling I often need a cooling effect

Great to see ya! Love from Philadelphia!

Such an informative video Erik! It was such a wonderful experience at the tea house! We will definitely be coming again!

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Yay!! Thanks!! ☺️☺️☺️

awesome, thanks!

I was relieved to find that the lychee gummy tastes so good. I recently tried some other yellow teas from a different store, and they just tasted like sub-par Japanese greens. Nothing but the flavor of mulched grass and overcooked garbage disposal veggies.

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked the Lychee Gummy! There are certainly other good yellow teas out there but they can be tricky to find!

❤❤❤ l'm from vietnam love Tea Taiwan ❤

Yesss! Love this series so much. I had some Mabian Huang Ya while I watched and it’s so interesting - when I first tried that tea last year, in my tasting notes, I had written “hopia” which is a Filipino mooncake-like pastry stuffed with sweet mung bean. So when you said you got those mung bean vibes, I was right there with you!

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa that’s awesome!

Best tea related videos I've seen. Your approach to sharing knowledge is inviting and engaging and my brewing has improved a lot since discovering your videos. Absolutely love this series and have had nothing but good teas from your tea house. Thank you for making these! Also really appreciate you not just putting out tons of videos just for the sake of having content. Only what's necessary. Thank you

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words, Tim! =)

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s great feedback, we try to go with quality or nothing on this channel, just like our tea and tea ware. Thank you!

Hurray, I've been waiting for this episode! Did you consider talking about Korean hwangcha and how it differs from Chinese huangcha? And Korean tea categories more broadly; I'm still trying to understand the difference between balhyocha and Chinese oolongs or hongchas

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

West China Tea doesn't currently have any Korean Teas in its catalogue, but it's certainly something we'd be interested in learning more about!

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

I (So-Han) am not qualified to present on Korean teas, but I’d love to have a guest on to talk about it.

@nintendonut100

2 жыл бұрын

Korean hwangcha is a form of partially oxidised tea. Supposedly it differs from other kinds of teas (including wulongs) in how the oxidation is done, but I've never been able to find any details on it. Korean tea doesn't seem to have anywhere near as much information about it in English as other Asian teas, which seems to be even more the case for Korean teas that aren't green. I've had one Korean hwangcha from a vendor that specialises in Korean teas, and it was a very odd tea, much closer to hongcha than anything else. I didn't personally care for it myself (it had a strange dusty taste,) but that was just one example of hwangcha, and I've no idea how representative of the style it was.

Drinking some _Jūn Shān Yín Zhēn_ (君山銀針, _Jūn Shān_ Silver Needle) while watching this. I get full on (i.e. for both smelling and tasting notes) roasted soy beans and dried straw with this tea. The liquor was a really pale yellow-green, unlike the teas in the vid.

Modern rouge brought me here and honestly I'm amazed. I'm drinking black and gunpowder green to lower the coffee so now I'm looking to buy the set so I could try and squeeze it in my 15th. century reenactment group. Greetings from shores of Adriatic sea :)

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Woah a 15th century reenactment group sounds awesome!

Found you through modern rogue. Already a big fan.

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I only had yellow tea 2 times in my life. The problem I found was that until this day I have no clue to know if it was real yellow or just the seller spinning a story to get rid of some funky green tea. Also, both of them were so very different in taste so who knows, 1 may have been yellow or both or just none of them. I suppose, like with many of these harder to get by teas, sellers just really want to be able to sell something 'exclusive' and know that you probably don't have a good frame of what a yellow taste like. nevertheless, they were very tasty and in the end isn't that what really counts?

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

At the end of the day if it tastes good and you feel good drinking it, it's good tea ☺️

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. If you want to for sure try some yellow tea, we’ve got some on the website!

great channel, found you through the rogues🤘🏻

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Sounds like this is a real rariTEA. 🙂

Here after your appearance on Modern Rouge, looking forward to diving deeper into tea.

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving us a looksee! Those Modern Rogue homies are great.

Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge! Very much enjoyed the video. When you talk about the yellowing process and shaqing around 28:00, you mentioned shaqing happening after menhuang. Is this common? The way I understood the process, I thought menhuang would usually happen after shaqing, starting with still-hot leaves, or iterating between wrapping and frying. Is this different for different yellow teas?

@PeiChenTeaPalace

3 жыл бұрын

Thijs, you are right. All yellow making processes I have seen in China (MengDing HuangYa, JunShan YinZhen, HuoShan HuangYa, MoGan HuangYa, etc.), the ShaQing is first and then comes the MenHuang, not sure why he mentioned it the other way around, maybe it was that new, second tea he was trying. In Chinese, the soup is yellowish golden, but because of the early ShaQing, yellow teas should be quite green! It is common for old, aged green tea to be sold as 'yellow' tea but is nothing close. Most yellow teas are a very vibrant green color with a slight yellow tinge, due to the ShaQing that is done at very close to 0% oxidation, prior to the MenHuang.

@ThijsVogels

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeiChenTeaPalace I see, yes, thanks for clarifying. Something that also made me think in the video is the description of yellow tea as 'less grassy' than green tea. While it sounds sensible, I also think 'grassy' is not usually a desirable characteristic of green teas either. What are your thoughts on that?

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching the show, and thank you for the comment! Indeed you are correct that Shaqing does come after menhuang, and that So-Han misspoke in this episode regarding the order of operations. Thanks for catching this!

@legro7317

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeaHouseGhost Thanks for clarifying this point! However, doesn't that change the "story" of Yellow Tea slightly? With the 焖黄 process following the 杀青, my understanding is that Yellow Tea differs from Green/Oolong/Red Tea not so much in the grade of oxidation, but rather in the fact that its oxidation is non-enzymatic (as the enzymes have been "killed" during the 杀青). Or am I missing a point here?

The modern rogue brought me here and now I want tea 😂

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Shouts to those homies at Modern Rogue! Thanks for stopping by!

Funny that you say that yellow tea is rare because somehow tea makers in Indonesia are making yellow teas. They are not super popular that you can ask random people on the street if they know i, but you can find it here. I've tried two versions of it, one is rolled in the style of bi luo chun and another one that uses bigger leaf material like liu an gua pian. I don't know if they use the yellowing process as how the Chinese makers do it or if they somehow figured out a way to yellow the leaf themselves.

I haven't gone through the whole catalogue of stuff on this channel just yet but I was wondering. Did you have a video at all addressing tea on the go at all? If not I believe that would be a rather nice little thing you could put out if you had the time.

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! We haven't done an episode like that yet! Maybe in season 3!

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea! Erik let’s do it

"they got cute and thought they figure out a way" 😂😂😂 energy is YES

Can you say something more about Huang xiao cha and Huang da cha? I asume there are also different qualities of yellow tea (just like Long Jing, late spring-summer plucks will be much cheaper than early spring). I've drunk some relatively cheap yellow teas and they were nothing like green teas. How to distinguish bad quality, but real yellow tea from fake one?

@TeaHouseGhost

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain what you mean by Huang Xiao Cha and Huang Da Cha? I'm not familiar myself.

@westchinatea

2 жыл бұрын

Those both refer to Anhui yellow teas, Xiao being the higher grade early spring pluck (small) and Da being the lower grade later spring pluck (big). I’ve yet to try a cheap yellow tea that I liked, or that hit like yellow tea for me. Contrast with green tea or red tea, of which it’s definitely possible to get good specimens of for relatively low prices.

Is this a New Tea House episode? Is this real life?

Hey jo... Der Tobias 😘

Does yellow generally taste more like a green tea or more like a lightly oxidized jade oolong?

@TeaHouseGhost

2 жыл бұрын

It can vary! Lots of the famous ones (like, for example, Huang Ya) taste a bit more like green tea to me, but some def lean more toward oolong

@cpa314

2 жыл бұрын

@@TeaHouseGhost interesting, I'm a fan of Taiwanese jade oolongs and raw puer alot but havent had many chances to try yellow teas, even in China.

30:40 What's this opening technique you're talking about?

@TeaHouseGhost

2 жыл бұрын

The Jin Run Pao (soaking steep) opening involves pouring a small amount of hot water into the gaiwan to let the leaves saturate, waiting a moment, then pouring the remaining hot water into the gaiwan before decanting. This is a great technique to use when you don't want to throw out the first steeping.

are there any good teahouses in washington state? i tried looking and came up empty

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Crimson Lotus is up there! And a place called Mio? in Ballard in Seattle. There's some homies doing Gong Fu Cha up in Bellingham but I don't think they have a tea house

@IGuppieI

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeaHouseGhost THANKS! ill have to go check those out!

Came here straight from Modern Rogue! What about you?

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by! Hope you enjoy the show!

jeez...

is that scroll THE ART OF WAR??!

@reubenk1615

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know as well

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

It is not. I think it's from the Dao De Jing!

"This is gong fu tea cha not grand pa tea cha" 😂

Yo So Han, could you make Yellow Pu’ers? Aged yellow tea? Is that a thing?

@TeaHouseGhost

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good question! (also not So-Han answering - this is Erik) - Technically it is possible for Pu'er tea to be processed like Yellow tea, and my understanding is that it would still age. I haven't heard of anyone specifically doing Meng Huang to Pu'er tea, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or can't exist.

@jejehdh

2 жыл бұрын

@@TeaHouseGhost ok cool

You should do a episode on how to store your teas that aren't coins or bing

This whole video I'm just wondering how much you have been influenced by London. You sound like it and the tea pets are a dead giveaway to those who know

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

London, like the place? I've never been there myself. I don't know about So-Han.

@reubenk1615

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeaHouseGhost in that case you must have gotten the tea pets from the same vender or manufacturer since they where carried & sold by MeiLeaf in London who I buy from a lot since I'm in the middle east outside the US. Coincident? Besides these instructional educational videos do you also sell & ship tea globally?

@TeaHouseGhost

3 жыл бұрын

@@reubenk1615 yes West China Tea does ship tea globally but not to every country. They are opening up countries as people express interest. You can email orders(at)westchinatea(dot)com for details

No one can speak of yellow tea who has not tried Shan Yin Zhen of Junshan Island in Hunan. That is the real Emperor's tea.