This is next level kind of swing analysis. Sasho really knows his stuff. Golfers who are serious about their game should look into this. Thanks for sharing - learned something new.

As a tennis coach and avid golfer (in NS ;) I find this so fascinating. Great questions and explanations !

@GolfInsider

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Glad it was helpful!

This was extremely interesting and informative. Well done!

Fascinating - would love more on the wrists - you seem agreed that they make a substantial contribution and I'd thought they released because of physics - now confused 🙃

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Thanks Mark - an article is being drafted as we speak. It will be live on Golf Insider UK - golfinsideruk.com/ in the next 7 days. If you sign up for the email list you'll get it hot off the press. Many thanks, Will

@TheNYgolfer

4 ай бұрын

@markwalker5 This is going to be long, but well worth the read. There are hitters, and there are swingers. A hitter gets clubhead speed by adding a pushing force into the shaft via the active straightening of the bent trail arm during the downswing. So the trail hand is very active. The swinger does what you so nicely said , he/she uses "physics" to release the club. The hands are inactive. Their job is to simply hold on to the club. Swingers have long swings with huge shoulders turns in order to tightly wind up the body, then on the downswing they shift the weight from the rear foot to the front foot, which then pulls everything around in sequence (kinematic sequence) which ultimately results in the "slingshot" effect ie: the clubhead speeds up as centrifugal/centripetal force takes over when the path of the hands transition from a basically straight line path to a more circular path. It's pure physics with no conscious effort to apply any power via active hands. To name a few swingers with long swings, Bubba Watson, John Daly, Fred Couples, and Rory come to mind. Rory and Bubba said that their power comes from the slingshot effect caused by the turning of the body. Daly said he pulls with the left side and the right arm does nothing. It's just there for structural support. Daly's statement killed my clubhead speed for a long time because I concentrated on pulling with the left side. I finally realized that yes the left side pulls but not because I consciously pull with the left side. That pull is an automatic result of the weight shift on the downswing, which "pulls" the left side without me thinking about it. What a difference that made. Now, the hitter has an active trail arm/ hand, as I mentioned. The hitter does not need nor wants a long swing. The clubshaft does not go anywhere near parallel. They have what is often called half a backswing. They have no need to coil the body. Hitters with short backswings are John Rahm, Tony Finau, and former world long drive championship Sean Fister. Swinging is much easier than hitting. Since swinging uses physics to release the club, there is no timing of the release involved. It's totally automatic. A hitter has to time when to thrust with the trail arm/hand. That release effort happens around the time the clubshaft is basically vertical to the ground on the downswing, when viewed face on. If the hitter were to have a long backswing, the addition of power would have to be delayed more. So, there is no advantage to having a long backswing for the hitter. The best thing to do is to learn both methods. If you are strong but not very flexible, hitting is a better choice. Weaker players who are flexible are better off swinging. The majority of female pro golfers are swingers. Often, people will ask, if a swinger has inactive hands, why then do I get a slower clubhead speed when swinging one handed with just my lead arm? It goes back to what Daly said about the structural support the right arm offers. It gives rigidity to the power package (triangle formed by the shoulders and arms). Take away one side of the triangle and the power package weakens. 2 swingers that I know of have a very unique feature in their swing. If you look at slow motion video of Fred Couples and VJ Singh, you will notice the trail hand almost lets go of the shaft through impact. That is because they intentionally grip the club super lightly with the trail hand because they don't want the muscles in that hand to become active. This brings me to the enigma named Ben Hogan, who famously confused several generations so far, with his widely misunderstood statement that he wished he had 3 right hands. He then went on to say he hits equally hard with both hands. So, what does that seemingly contradictory statement mean? Well, he knew he couldn't overpower physics by adding right hand power to the swing, but if he had 3 right hands, then he could overpower physics and add speed. Hence the "I wish I had 3 right hands". So since he didn't have 3 right hands he then said he hits equally hard with both. To me, that's a feel vs real statement. He had a huge shoulder turn and went past parallel on the backswing. A classic swingers wind up. He also practiced swinging with several fingers of the right hand off the shaft. Why do that if you "hit" equally hard with both hands?? Hogan was known to give false info to mislead competitors. Swing or hit. Pick your poison. I hope this cleared up some, hopefully most, of your confusion.

Great 🇨🇦 dry humour!

@GolfInsider

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Glad you enjoyed it!