Golf GTE - Battery defect and repair P0AA600
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Golf GTE Hybrid - The perfect tool to sell "black" under "green", at the price of gold. Perfect propaganda that the "expensive" and "unprofitable" battery is rewritten for the entire EV market in the last 10 years, because it is indeed expensive, but on a hybrid. Unreasonably expensive per kWh and unreasonably poorly designed. A hybrid playing EV and stereotypically doing media damage to the EV industry. The third next to the GTE coming to us, and very likely not the last. We rejected inquiries about this vehicle about 5-6 times. This one arrived with a defect internal insulation, which could be any internal high-voltage component. After testing the system and the junction box part, everything pointed to the battery, which was already changed once under warranty in 2019, and the new one outside the warranty is 11,500 EUR. In order to dismantle the battery, the complete fart pipe must be removed and then the battery. The screws rot on the "fart girl" rot. After opening the battery, there were no traces of water and antifreeze, but we isolated a puncture on one of the cells. After a closer inspection, it appears that the protective sheath of one cell on the fourth block has broken. At first a harmless problem, at the second a very dangerous condition. If, by any chance, the sheath breaks in another place, i.e. on another cell, a short circuit and possible ignition will occur. We safely saved that block for repair, and we installed an already repaired and balanced block in the battery system, which we added balanced to the rest of the battery system. Everything cleaned assembled first tested then everything opened again, glued and finalized. All tests passed and ready for the owner's new "savings", and we are eagerly awaiting them. We are also working on when everyone switches to a hybrid with diesel, we open a corner for "sponsors" and a boss for "savings". Clean gasoline or clean electricity if you want to avoid it. We recommend to fellow "hybrid victims" mechanics to avoid servicing these vehicles, there is a dangerous possibility that you will have a "it worked when I arrived" failure. So a warm recommendation, go pure petrol or pure ev, avoid hybrids.
Video of complete repair:
Failure: P0AA600, P0E7400, P0D9100,
Part Number: 5Q0915590R, 5Q0915591E
Battery Panasonic 25Ah, 8kWh, Made in Japan
OEM price: 11000 EUR (VAT included)
EV Clinic fine price*
*Diesel is better - 20,000 euros
*Hybrid is better - 35,000 euros
*Hybrid is crap - 2000-5000 euros
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Wonderfull! Best luck to owner , and keep saving!
pozdrav jedno pitanje imam etron q7..menu je top za sad radi sve top,primetijo sam u posudu za hlađenje el.motora da malo fali tekučone,,dali mogu sam dodati,jeli ista kao za motor,,pošto ima nekakav katanac gore,,jel to uopšte za dodavat,,hvala
Very useful video. Can you share what you charged the customer for labour and parts and how long it took? Mine has been with VW (UK) for four months and counting after my GTE wouldn’t start up. They keep saying ODIS needs updating… 😔
does it have manual cooling/warming as Tesla’s battery has?
Greetings from Belgrade, your work is amazing, I'm a fan of yours, keep it up!
@draganglisic9058
Жыл бұрын
Zdravo....da li je dobra odluka kupiti pasat plug in hibrid 2017 godina
@Gaja9314
Жыл бұрын
@@draganglisic9058 Bilo kog plug in hibrida ima smisla kupiti samo ako prelazis bas dosta po gradu, i imas gde redovno da ga punis, pa da tako napravis neku znacajnu ustedu u gorivu, u suprotnom uglavnom nema previse smisla, jer bi ti svaki potencijalni kvar na njemu ponistio bilo kakvu manju ustedu.. i ako taj plug in hibrid ima takozvani "EV mod" da moze da se vozi samo na struju po gradu, bez paljenja motora.
@draganglisic9058
Жыл бұрын
@@Gaja9314 nista mi nije jasno.....toliko pozitivnih stvari sam čuo za Toyotu Prius....sad sam zbunjen skroz.......čak sam se dvoumio prius plug in hibrid ili pasat b8 plug in hibrid.....izgleda bolje bežati od toga
@Gaja9314
Жыл бұрын
@@draganglisic9058 većina tih hibrida su lose napravljeni, ili cak imaju programirane defekte.. treba izbegavati.. cak i potpuno elektricni od nekih proizvodjaca imaju programirane defekte.. najsigurnije je da kupis Teslu ako mozes da priustis.. zavisi i kako koristis auto, jel pretezno grad ili autoput?
@draganglisic9058
Жыл бұрын
@@Gaja9314 programirane defekte....kao mobilni telefoni😀 uglavnom gradska vožnja
😂😂😂hahaha, I always tell them that hybrids are a complete waste of money ! I owned one and I will not buy one again!
Do you think in general, pouch cells are worse than round or prismatic ones? At least for me i see so much inflated batteries in phones and laptops, and none in older laptops or other tools with round cells.
@evclinic
8 ай бұрын
They (pouch) are absolute crap for any serious automotive purpose. Best cells on planet earth are cylindrical cells, then prismatic.
@MrTechfreak95
8 ай бұрын
@@evclinic yeah that's what i thought as well when i first discovered that some cars have those damn pouch cells. Thanks for you fast answer. And keep up the amazing work. :)
@ISpiksterI
7 ай бұрын
@@evclinice-Golf has the same pouch cell design? Why are they more reliable then GTE models? Because of the bigger battery or is it something else?
@evclinic
7 ай бұрын
@@ISpiksterI it is prismatic, eGolf is more reliable because of more cells in paralel and less stress to cells
Good morning brother
Dear EV Clinic Thank you very much for the video. Do you know, if it is possible on VW vehicle to upgrade the battery from 9.9 to 13.3 kWh. I red that the dimensions as well as connectors are same for both battery.
What was the age of the car. The battery warranty is 8 years or 150 k km for this model. And regarding the battery isolation issue there was a recall program from VW where they fix it for free.
@evclinic
6 ай бұрын
It was already changed at 110k on recall, at second failure it had 200k. Warranty of any kind doesnt prove sustainablility
What about Toyota or Honda, would you also avoid buying one of their hybrids? I'm asking since their electronics is also much more reliable in regular cars, at least compared to European brands. P.S.: Great seeing you make videos, I hope you become famous and get enough "sponsors" to buy as many EVs as you wish.
@evclinic
Жыл бұрын
Toyota is “less evil” decision but stil expensive parts for it. Battery etc…
@chriskonte1909
7 ай бұрын
So here's the little Hybrid 101: Don't get a hybrid if you wanna safe some money. For environment readings sure, but not because you're gonna safe so much more gas. Hybrids consume much more fuel when they are running on their combustion engine. VWs Golf Plug in Hybrid has a Turbo engine so all that on and off strains the engine a lot more. Toyota and Honda mainly use full-hybrid systems meaning they have a small battery that doesn't need recharging but has a max electric range of 3 miles. Now thanks to recuperative braking, letting go of the gas pedal and the engine, it charges itself you and it's the simpler system You will have less problems with a Prius or Insight or even a CR-V or RAV4.
Help me problems code p0aa200 golf 8 hybrid 2021
Your last line was "chose petrol or electric, not hybrid". Could you pls elaborate why? If batteries are a way to put hands on customer's savings, won't be worst on pure electric cars? Thank you. Nice video btw.
@chriskonte1909
7 ай бұрын
Hybrid cars have by far the most complex engine and transmission combinations. Depending on the power, battery state, temperature, the electric or gas/Diesel engine engages. Technically both engines are meant to be used from 0-100 km/h, so you can either crawl with the combustion engine on at 8 kmh or drive in ev mode at 90.. Full EVs on the other hand don't have all these problem. Full electric engines usually have around 3000 less moving parts integrated so they are the simplest engine versions from that perspective. Now on 98% of all EVs it's not the electric engine that you have to worry about because they might last 400.000 - 600.000km easily. There are enough Tesla Taxis that have done that :) it's the battery at the end of the day. But even the big batteries have no problems usually lasting around 13 years. Sure some cells might go bad on that way, just like with a mobile phones. But that doesn't you can't go anywhere it just means that you might not have 450km of range at beast maybe just 380km after 10 years. So like I said it's the complexity of having both engines working together that makes owning a hybrid for a longer time. Service is prior and most importantly avoid the European Hybrid since they don't have any experience nor were they interested until 2017 when everyone screamed for a green alternative.
@SkilfulLeader1
5 ай бұрын
@@chriskonte1909thanks for this and i actually agree with your point regarding the longevity of a full EV verses the complexity of a hybrid. I’m actually considering purchasing a 2018 GTE advance, however after hearing and reading so many problems i must say I’m definitely very skeptical now. The batteries just don’t seem to last the test of time, where then the engine takes all the load and no doubt your then faced with further problems mechanically. Lots to think about, thanks
Is this not what the battery recall was for? VW is also very bad at trying to get information for one of their cars!
This is the only video in the whole of yt with any gte issues.... And at 200000 km... Second hand battery would be cheaper...
@evclinic
11 ай бұрын
This one was already on second battery at 200k
@jellyd4889
10 ай бұрын
Which is perfectly ok. There are now second hand batteries available for a few thousand. The second hand trick, is to buy one of these just under 2 years old, then get a full VW 1 Ear warranty extension for 17 EUR a month. Then you are sure that you aren't getting a turkey. Near Munich, most are driving around in villages with hybrids. The EV second hand market is too expensive.
@evclinic
10 ай бұрын
@@jellyd4889 it is not ok if you pay 12000€ for 8kWh battery, which is again defect construcion pack. And that is only problem, you got shit crap problematic DSG gearbox
@jellyd4889
10 ай бұрын
This is the wet gearbox. Just replace the oil occasionally... I have scoured the internet and find no major issues reported, compared to the other dry ones.... No one would buy a 12000 EUR battery, you are correct. That is why the second hand and properly refurbished market is already quite large. You could specialise in it! Your shop seems to know what it's doing. Set up pickup in Germany, they swap out the battery with one of your refurbs, they send the broken one to you for cannibalisation. Maybe VW already do that...
@jellyd4889
10 ай бұрын
BMW's, Mercs, VWAG, all have smallish battery packs waiting for an enterprising company to earn on them.
Parkside FTW
@evclinic
Жыл бұрын
Hybrids do not deserve Milwaukee
He is talking like ICE engines dont go bad and make the car a write-off. Nothing is perfect. I've heard about every car manufacturer that has hsd massive bills due to a failure of some sort.
@evclinic
Ай бұрын
But this ICE+PHEV combination is extremely expensive due integrated electric motors inside gearbox and small overloaded battery systems