One M1, 8 strips of ammo, one helmet, pair of gaiters, and a web belt. Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

I get visions of Steve McQueen and his Shore party in the, "Sand Pebbles."

@stevedoe1630

10 ай бұрын

A must-read book, for any one interested in steam propulsion. 👍

@stillcrass

10 ай бұрын

Such a greatfilm

@studinthemaking

10 ай бұрын

@@stevedoe1630 it’s the only book the author wrote. He died suddenly after that. It’s such a thick book!

@DRAGONSLAYER1220

10 ай бұрын

"What the hell happened!!" Greatest closing line ever.

@shawnmccarthy8764

10 ай бұрын

Love that movie

According to the Bluejacket handbook of 1940( my fathers ). The cartridge belt and leggings would already be in the sailor’s regular issue and in his sea bag. The ship board rifle was the M1903 rifle. that’s what he had issued to him for guard details all through WW2. Dad served on cruisers and destroyers.

@reccecs4

10 ай бұрын

Outstanding to go back to primary sources to refer… I would guess it means the M1923 cartridge belt for the Springfield and Garand, not this specific kind of cartridge belt which would be needed by literally nine people on board… and only on ships with externally primed guns, not even the vast majority of the Navy. Even then, I’m surprised a M1923 belt and presumably associated kit would be issued to every sailor rather than just being held in the arms locker 1:1 with the weapons they go with. I mean, if you don’t have a rifle, there’s not much need for a cartridge belt.

@kennethhummel4409

10 ай бұрын

I’ll have to dig it out and then post a list of basic marching and armed shore parties kit/equipment back here in a day or so.@@reccecs4

@jasonvant7714

10 ай бұрын

@@reccecs4 maybe a cartridge belt was issued out to the enlisted to be available for security watchs but there aren’t that many small arms aboard a ship. We had a little over 2 dozen M14s, 10 shotguns,about 2 dozen 45’s,2 M60’s and 2 M79’s for about 220 crew. So yeah not that many guns for that many serviceman but thats why we had a missile launcher , 76mm,ciws,torpedoes and helos.

@kennethhummel4409

10 ай бұрын

Ok it looks like it was the WW1 M1910 cartridge belt and leggings were to be a part of the gear for sailors expected to perform guard and sentry duties. On a side note a destroyer was expected to have field gear for 4 eight man squads as well as a minimum of 4 M1918 BARs, 4 Thompson M1928 SMGs, 24 to 30 M1903 rifles and 8 to10 M1911 pistols for properly equipping the landing forces. The same weapons I think were used for arming the guard and sentry details. If I remember correctly a battleship was expected to have enough small arms to equip a company sized formation of sailors complete with medium and heavy machine guns.@@reccecs4

@oneparticularharbor144

3 ай бұрын

Yep the ‘03 rifle was standard for both Sailors and Marines until well into ‘42 I believe , the M1 didn’t get to them until later in the war and there were 03s on ships until nearly the end of the war once production had caught up with demand by the Army .

Interesting that your grandfather was in the Philippines. My uncle was in the Philippines in 1941, working with the Philippine Scouts. He fought with them, and made the death march, made it through the Hell Ships, and was liberated in Japan a week or so after the surrender in Japan

@chevychase3103

10 ай бұрын

Was he a prisoner at Cabana 21? Sorry that was talk to text and I don't spell well.

@richcrozier1108

10 ай бұрын

Cabanatuan? Yes prior to going to Japan where he was liberated at camp zentsugi

In the late Seventies I was issued WW2 leftovers as a Marine, and some of that gear was still in service into the Eighties in the Army. The buckles changed but the pistol belt was still being used as late as 2010 when I retired from the National Guard. Shore Patrol and the OOD on the quarter deck while in port sometimes had white pistol belts issued.

And as to "hurry up and wait", a story: So I was sitting out in my HMMWV one evening, reading, on my QRF day of our 3-day schedule (patroling, QRF, patrol base guard duty) when the troop operations center radio watch sprints out in an air of consternation. He spots me in my truck and shouts "troop radio on!" with our troop commander ambling up behind him. So i flip my radio, the loudspeaker and the power amplifier on and start the engine, as fast as it takes to say it. He finishes running over and says "the generator crapped itself. You're x-ray, I'm getting the generator back up." and takes off towards the generator. By this time, the CO had made it over to my truck as a muted "kabang" was heard. The radio immediately starts sqwaking "Blue one (third platoon's lieutenant) hit an IED at BOSTON and BB KING! We're gonna need a medevac!" I reply "X-ray, copies. Stand by for six" I look at my CO and say "White (second platoon) is QRF: roll?"" He replies "Yeah, go." to me as he takes my radio's hand mic. so I run back into the sleeping area of our PB and pass by the X-ray, (who's announcing "TOC is back up.") and into our area. I announce "CO says Get Hot! Blue One hit an IED at Boston and BB king. Casualties likely." Everyone who was watching movies and playing on computers on bunk beds dropped what they were doing. In less than 10 seconds we were in vehicles, armed, armored, equipped with night vision, locked, loaded, and out of the gate. We were providing security and searching for the trigger man in under a minute. You can move quite a bit faster than most would have any right to expect, with practice.

Fold the flair of the dungarees tightly. Lace the leggings from the bottom up. Tightly. Retighten as you go. When you think its tight your wrong tighten it up some more. It helps to have pants unbuckled and belt loose.

In 1976/77 when I was on the "repel boarders" party (a joke if there ever was one) while in port, during drills we went to the ship's armory and were handed weapons by the gunner's mates. We were given either the 1911M1, or a 12 gage shotgun. Each weapon had a note on it of where we were to deploy to... forward brow, after brow, or the brow to an adjacent submarine, if we had any alongside. They weren't loaded, of course, but did have ammunition pouches. Although I never saw one, supposedly we also had M-14's for the ship's rifles.

I think we all know which tool sailors most like to use when going ashore. Let's just say certain establishments that provide special boxes for those tools would start doing a roaring trade.

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

dont forget the "pro kit!!

That grab and go is exactly right.. plenty of time in between... helps focus, steady nerves, occupies hands

The 1943 Landing Party Manual suggests that Cruiser & BB Landing Parties would be fitted up with M-1903 rifles with the Mk I bayonet (USN equivalent to the War Department M-1905). Each Squad would have a BAR man and two AG carrying reloads. By the 1945 LPM, Squad leaders & Officers are issued M-1 Carbines, and the riflemen a mix of 03A3 and Grands. The Weapons platoon has a mix of M-1917 and M-1919 MGs. There's a spattering of Grenadiers with rifle-launched grenades as well.

@CAPNMAC82

10 ай бұрын

The history of Landing Parties goes back to the Spanish American war of 1895. The Sailors would have the 6mm Navy Lee, and the Colt "potato digger" machine gun in 6mm as well. After the 6mm Lee is removed from service, the Cal..30 Krag is used; the belts are a mix of blue, gray and khaki with individual cartridge loops.

As I recall from my studies of the Pacific war one landing of note conducted by the battleships was in August of 1945 in Tokyo Bay from the Iowa and Missouri as well as other ships to secure and disarm Japanese military units in the area. The battleships with their large crews were ideal to handle such assignments.

Has the museum ever considered a weapons display? I realize the state may not appreciate it but if displayed appropriately / safely it would be an element of the ship's history. If the answer is yes, I've got a non-firing 1903 Springfield I'd donate to get you started.

@poowg2657

10 ай бұрын

If the state doesn't like it I'm sure one 16 inch round would shut them up.

@poowg2657

10 ай бұрын

@@zippydastrange LMFAO!

@SargeMorris

10 ай бұрын

@@poowg2657 I'm a huge fan of shelling Trenton with a 16" gun. Just ask Trenton what happens when America goes to war around Christmas Day, 1776. I think they need a reminder.

@MandolinMagi

9 ай бұрын

I've seen several other museum ships with weapons displays.

Looking mighty spiffy in that pistol belt 😊😊😊

One of the great indicators of how important i am guessing they considered this is they put the storage of something thereotically they would have to do on deck, 7 stories deep in a ship without elevators.

En bloc clip. Stripper clips are ones you strip cartridges from into a magazine while an en block clip is inserted into the firearm and works as part of the magazine.

@georgelewis9127

10 ай бұрын

Correct!

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

and ejects with an audible "PING" when its empty.

During WW2 the sailors would have had 03 springfields. Garands were issued to the army first, the USMC started getting Garands in 42. The springfields would probably stayed aboard the ship until it was decommissioned. For the vietnam period, probably would have had Garands, as they had millions if them, and they were still standard issue for national guard units in that time. The 80s, maybe M14s or Garands. The landing force was largely just a tradition by then, so they would have gotten leftovers from the inventory. What should have been on the belt varied per their role. Everyone would have had a canteen, small battle dressing, and cleaning kit for their weapon. Everyone not with a long arm would have a pistol and magazine pouch with magazines. corpsmen and the chaplains generally would be offered pistols but not obligated to take them as noncombatants. Riflemen got a cartridge belt. BAR gunners and assistant gunners would have gotten a BAR magazine belt that carried spare magazines. Machine gunners got a pistol, assistant machinegunnners got rifles and a heavy pack with ammo and the tripod. Ammo bearers got rifles, and additional machine gun ammo. Squad leaders got submachine guns or rifles as available. Radio operators got a pistol and a herniated disk from the spare batteries for the radio. Other support people got a rifle or later in the war maybe a carbine if they got issued to the ship by then.

@AzraelThanatos

10 ай бұрын

I would assume that the landing force would also be a boarding/counterboarding force as well if needed. Though more common on smaller ships because I don't see battleships being used for more interdiction work

@sqike001ton

9 ай бұрын

In the late 60s to early 70s they had gotting rid of the m1s m14s were easy to come by for the army and navy so the replacement was made during port stops but all new ships in that time were being issued m16s so till 1980ost ships had m16s I know a sailor how somehow spent 10 years on the same ship 1968-1978 and they went from. M1-m14-m16 in the 10 years his ship was a WW2 ship

When one goes ashore one doesn't want to drink the local water so, you bring your own water. That is a very nice holster for the 1911A1; the belt looks great. Thanks Ryan for the demonstration of Naval belts. I did have from the 1916 Pancho Villa insurrection the U.S. Army Cavalry officers leather pistol belt and round bronze buckle that a relative had used.

For Vbss visiting boarding search/ seizure we had light body armor. A camel back, a m9 pistol with 3 15 round mags and or a mossburg 500 or Remington 870 shotgun or a m4 carbine or in my case a mk 18 pdw carbine. We also carried flex cuffs and first aid kit. I even carried a couple def tech 25 flash bangs on extremely rare cases.

As a kid I bought original Army surplus of the items you showed. My Dad would drop me off at the surplus store, while he called on his Vending Machine customer across the street. I loved that place and bought all kinds of stuff from there. When I was in Basic Training @Ft. BRAGG, NC in 1968 we were issued the same belts and canteens. We also ate canned rations from WW2 that were in perfect condition.

One on my favorite "Shore Party", "Going to Shore" movie scenes is from the movie "The Sand Pebbles". Damn Good Movie!

My grandfather served in the 1950s. One story he had was that when the ship docked at a friendly port, the first sailor allowed off the ship was an officer escorted by 2 MPs had to take code books off the ship to check them in. He would put on the pistol belt, carry the code book off the ship, check it in, and then take off the pistol belt and hand it to the MPs - his job was finished, time for shore leave. So whichever officer volunteered for that duty got to start shore leave while the rest of the crew were doing duties on board. Gave him quite the head start.

in case youre wondering, the helmet (M1) ryan is holding is ww2 issue, you can tell by the sewn on chinstraps. the liners an earlier one, possibly ww2 itself, but no later than 1963 as thats when they changed the webbing style. cant tell the age of the WX OBSERVER helmet other than the rim has the seam in the rear so its 1944 or later. i wonder what a WX OBSERVER is? the other stuff; leggings, m1938, dismounted belt, pistol, m1936, web pouch, field dressing, m1934, web field dressing, carlisle canteen pouch, m1910, canvas duck canteen, m1936 cup, m1910 holster, m1916, leather pistol, m1911 (A1?) pouch, magazine, m1923, web the belt ryans referring to would be either an m1910, m1923, or m1942 as all were used up through and after ww2. my favorite colors is in-between the khaki and darker green (OD#7), its called OD#3 and is just slightly greener than the khaki. love these equipment videos ryan, THANKS! especially thanks for showing the marked M1!!! i love marked M1s

@glennrishton5679

10 ай бұрын

I am glad you mentioned the holster. It looked to me by it's length it was made for either the Smith & Wesson or the Colt revolvers not for a 1911. The holster I carried a 1911 in while on watch in the early 70s did not have the tie laces.

@danquigg8311

10 ай бұрын

Perhaps WX OBSERVER is Weather Observer?

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

@@danquigg8311 that sounds plausible.

@JDale56

10 ай бұрын

I toured New Jersey last summer, she has ready racks all over the ship with stacks of those M1 helmets everywhere (mostly the red fire control helmets) MANY of them had the early front seam on the brim.

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

@@JDale56 i know! one of my favorite things to do is spot m1s in their videos! as you can probably tell from pic i love m1s! i wish i had one of those racks lol. btw the helmet im wearing i call my "d-day" helmet. because it belonged to lt william lewis gray of the 1257th combat engineers. he wore ti in the 3dr wave of d-day, through france, during the battle of the bulge, and on into germany. it was a graduation present from his daughter who was my teacher.

Very neat. Quickly looking at the history of older battleship named New Jersey, it doesn't look like they would have had any opportunity to land a shore party, but it would be cool to talk about if they did.

When I went though boot camp in 1994, we wore one of those green pistol belts with our rain coat folded up and wrapped around it. After service week (week 5), we switched to white belts with our rain coats wrapped around them. After graduation, while at ATD (ATD was still at RTC back then), we carried our rain coats in our hands when we went somewhere.

The web equipment was also known as "782 Gear" presumably from some Navy Supply document. We used it at least into the mid-80s.

Having used that style of belt, Alice style, early 2000s padded battle belts, and current rigid molle pistol belts, I can definitely say the i prefer the modern ones. They can all be set up pretty similarly, and hold the pouches and such in their fixed locations, but only the modern ones adjust anywhere near what I would call fast, if needed. Plus the modern ones have an inner velcro belt, so the load carrying belt just attaches over the top of that keeping everything very neat. Still very interesting to see how things developed

@crazyeyez1502

10 ай бұрын

Yea, i used the same stuff when i joined in 2000, before the switch to the vest style MOLLE gear.

The USS Salem in Quincy MA has an excellent small arms display- if the docent is there he was some small arms examples he will pass to the group in the armory to get a more hands on appreciation ( they are all dewats ), it’s always great to see the kids ( they do a lot of scout overnights) getting a look see- many have never seen up close

An additional note. The leggings you have are Army issue. The Navy and Marine Corps Leggings had six hooks and eyes. The Landing party officers would have been issued a pistol, and there would have been a couple of sailors armed with Thompsons and BARs as well. As stated elsewhere, leggings would have been a part of seabag issue, and would have been part of the uniform for General Quarters Stations and on Watch.

Had a web belt like that in Boyscouts, it was very handy, even made my own pouch for my mess kit and fashioned wire from a coat hanger to hang it on the belt.

We still used the web belts into the 80s when I stood petty officer of the watch on the quarterdeck. We'd take it off and pass it to the next guy on watch, and most often, it didn't need any resizing. We all had a 30 to 32 inch waist lol. I wish I still had that waist.

I used and still have essentially the exact belt, with shoulder straps, as a wildland firefighter. They definitely don't adjust "fast" and it makes a big difference if you wear it for a long time.

I'm pretty sure that for at least most of WWII the rifle issued to the Marines and the ship would still have been the M1903 Springfield, not the M1 Garand.

@charliebulldoghunter6182

10 ай бұрын

Marines were issued m1 garands and the navy was still issuing 1903 Springfield, my grandmother her uncle was on a carrier in WW2 and their a picture of him some Standing with some of the marines and sailors with rifle and I don't know where it is any more

@TheBattleship61

10 ай бұрын

I believe the marines started to be issued the M1 by late 1942 and early 1943 (they had m1903s at Guadalcanal for the most part.) by 1944 when Iowa and her sisters were staring to be deployed, the Navy most likely would’ve had a mix of 1903s and M1s. The Army got them first because they’re special (and yes i am a rather biased naval historian) then the marines would’ve gotten them, Navy would’ve likely been next in the pecking order as I doubt the Army Air Force had much use or interest in rifles.

@charliebulldoghunter6182

10 ай бұрын

​@@TheBattleship61I know the marines on Alabama were issued m1 garands

i remember seeing the carlisle bandage tins at gun and collector shows for about $0.50. then when i started to collect and reenact, they were $3 each. then as i was getting out of it, they had gone up to $10 each. the M1910 web gear (which your magazine pouch is) would have been almost entirely knitted/woven. the M1928 gear started using more canvas in its manufacture and as you mention, the M1945 gear went to dark olive green vs the olive drab colors. the pistol belt is correctly identified as an M1936 pistol belt. during 1942 the US experimented with porcelain coated canteens and cups that resulted in glossy black finish. they chipped just by looking at them and soon the steel was getting rusted and the finish was too reflective (compared to bright bare alloy?) so that was short lived. when i was the Mobility NCO of my Air Force unit i was inventorying our mobility gear and swapped out for a current USGI plastic canteen and cup, a WWI era canteen, cup and carrier. it had the 28th Infantry Division's Pennsylvania 'keystone' scratched into the bottom of it. the 'gaiters' are actually leggings and other than the Airborne units, the Marines and Army would have had the ankle boots and leggings as well. any Sailor who walked SP duty or stood watch at the gangway, would have worn the leggings and empty pistol belt.

THANK YOU for making this video! This is a topic I've been wondering about for a few years!

Thanks for talking about that belt. I've got one similar to that, green and came only with a canteen, and I wondered what else it was used for.

That kind of pistol belt wasn't just issued through WWII: I was issued one in Army basic in 2005, and again at my unit in 2006, where I turned it in when I ETSed in 2010. Didn't really use it except for dragging around a drop-leg MOLLE panel I'd bought to carry more pouches of 40mm grenades for my M203. We generally clipped all our junk to the MOLLE webbing on our body armor. Much more flexible that way. After I got out, I bought a surplus pistol belt and eight frag grenade pouches to hold two 8rd enblocs apiece for my CMP-purchased M1 Garand. Because having 128 rounds rather than the period-correct 80 rounds of the m1923 cartridge belt just makes life easier if I ever want to troll for funny looks by entering a 3-gun competition. And OD vs khaki: Khaki was OD, before it got oxidation and sun. I have "new to me" old pattern OD that started as OD, spent time in a window and got sunbleached to almost that khaki color. (Give it another two years and it will be) Mind you that all of that vintage stuff has seen sun and use. It's OD, but sunbleached. "At the Front" (a WWII reenactment repro (and occasionally surplus) militaria company) has a word on this topic.

In all my time in The Corps I never saw a medic...I saw and knew alot of Corpsman and Hospitalman but never once saw a medic! LOL!!

The Surplus stores were a big thing in my childhood. As a Boy Scout I wore a belt with a canteen and a cup like you showed. No pistol on mine though! TM retired but still interested.

Walter and knight. In the 80s only the master at arms and few others had sidearms. Dam dangerous. In my gator ship Marines had the odd m16 or .45. Yes in 87. Not all had m9 barretta. But no ammo on board Ammo on board, but not loaded.

@WALTERBROADDUS

10 ай бұрын

The bad old days...🙇🏽‍♂️

While standing Quarterdeck watches in the 69-71 time frame as the POOW, the belt we wore was white and not at all that uncomfortable. With 24 hour a day use while in port, the webbing lost it's stiffness. Of course we only had the pistol, two clips and 10 rounds of 45 apc, 5 rounds in each clip and no clip in the gun. When relieving the watch, we had to strip out and count each round of ammunition. Sure glad when I got my rating conversion to Engineman 2nd Class and no longer had to stand that watch.

@frankhollein7093

10 ай бұрын

I stood many Messenger and Petty Officer of the Watch. Wore the white belt with the club for Messenger, and 45 for POOW. The gear was hard to get out of the web holsters.

@michaelsommers2356

10 ай бұрын

They're magazines, not clips.

@Sundancer268

10 ай бұрын

Semantics and Clips are easier to spell, besides I was not a Gunnersmate, I was a Radarman.

@michaelsommers2356

10 ай бұрын

@@Sundancer268I was a radioman, who don't even stand watches that required wearing a pistol, and I know the difference.

It depends on what you're using it for. MOLLE gear tends to work better with body armor as it allows you more options on where to put pouches. ALICE LBE is a little bit better than MOLLE if you aren't using body armor.

@monkeyoperator1360

10 ай бұрын

i think ALICE gear was still being used into 2011 at least for basic training

Naval landing forces on capital ships were trained in Army tactics and would have all the individual equipment on hand to function as Naval infantry. In addition to individual weapons, crew served machine guns and even anti tank weapons would be available.

Newly minted marine arrives "Permission to Come aboard" Permission granted, go stand next to those supplies, and they'll take you to your store room along with the rest of the supplies.

The gaiters are really needed if you are wearing bell bottom Dungs. I love my Dungs but damn running in those things if they're wet is a freaking hassle....unless you got gaiters on. The reason why the leather tie is missing from the pistol holster is because if it gets wet and its tied to your leg.... you will never get that knot untied and if you let it dry in place it shrinks enough to make you wonder if you could lose your leg. OH, that equipment was still around in the 80s. Hell we were still finding freaking Spam and coffee from WWII in the 80s.

Hi Ryan, very good as always. I would suppose that individual sailors would know roughly what ajustment they need so they could zero in on it fairly quickly.

OK bonus points for the Sand Pebbles reference. Holman come down, Holman come down.

I had a web belt just like that I was issued when I entered the USAF in 2006. It was a green web belt, but still, it was pros left over from the Korean War. I mean it worked for what it needed to do which was hold the canteen. Other than that I never really used a belt. I was issued Kevlar armor like everyone else. And even then I didn’t use it that often, but I was forklift and tractor trailer driver.

The Sergeant Major in my first unit used to reference the Naval Landing Party manual for drill reference.😂

Ryan your content is fantastic and I love it. PLEASE get a clip on mic. It would really improve the audio quality.

Not gaiters, leggings. Because the Navy back then had low quarter boots/chukkas/boondockers that gave no ankle support but the leggings gave you some support. My ship had a landing force/ships self defence force till I left it in 1990.

@francissullivan5900

10 ай бұрын

My youngest was a French and Indian War reenactor as a teenager. Gaiters was the term that dated to the 1750's.

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

legging, m1938, dismounted.

@leftyo9589

10 ай бұрын

its legging in the navy.@@francissullivan5900

The "cutting out" tactic also used armed sailors as well as marines, back in the 19th century. There were no special forces for that kind of thing, so they'd have to do it themselves.

What ship was your Grandfather on in the Philippines? My Grandfather was on the USS Sheridan was damaged and ported to the Philippines for repair. I’ve learned so much from your channel, especially about the dry dock and dredging.

Dad was a Seabee AND a Military Policeman during WW2. When I was a little brat, I remember dad and mom laying out their military gear to sell for extra bucks. I do still have dad's dress tunic. He was a police officer before and after the war. He said there was nothing worse than being trapped on an island being one of a few Navy MP's among many Marines.

We had those (they called them "utility belts") in boot camp (1977). They were olive drab.

Ryan, we need more info on your grandfathers canteen cup. That is amazing you have that little piece of history. My grandfather was a Radio Control Officer on P-61 Blackwidows in Europe. I have nothing from his service other than a book about 422nd Night Fighter Squadron that was written I think in the 1990s.

@christophertipton2318

10 ай бұрын

That style canteen cup is my favorite and has been since I first went in the Corps in 1971. They changed the handle in the 1980s (I think) and they suck. Also, canteens were changed over to plastic in Vietnam. I always owned an aluminum type (like Ryan's) as you could do more things with it (such as melt water in the winter over a fire). I was out of the military when Molle gear came out, but I do own some stuff that has Molle attachments and I rather like those more than the previous versions. In the Corps all of our combat gear was called 782 gear due to the NAVMC form Marines and Sailors used to sign for their gear. I think the forms and such have changed, but Marines still call their combat stuff 782 gear. Tradition dies hard in the Corps.

S refers to commend staff, S1 is admin. S2 is intelligence, S3 is operations, S4 is supply.

Landing parties in tropical areas were probably issued two canteens.

Whatever Steve McQueen had in his belt in The Sand Pebbles would be cool.

Question, I know New Jersey has some crazy gun laws but if someone wanted to leave an M1 Garand to the museum in their will, would you be able to accept it??? I've got an M1 that was born in Oct of 43, and if my children don't want it, I would be interested in donating it to your museum... Great video as usual 🙂

@jimmiles33

10 ай бұрын

Unless it’s battleship specific, it’s best that they don’t take it. Laws are super annoying with responsibilities a museum has once they’ve accepted a donation. It can be a curse you’re stuck with if you take in too much.

@billmoran3812

10 ай бұрын

This is New Jersey we’re talking about. 16” guns are proudly displayed, but sidearms will cause trauma to the locals. Go figure. 😊

One wonders if the sailors had regular rifle and pistol target practice. Probably easy enough on shore but one wonders if there was a way to rig a shooting range on deck at certain times, or if there was at least a pistol range below decks somewhere.

Our weapons locker had 1911’s, M14’s, and Thompson machine guns. The Thompson’s later got replaced with Remington 870’s shotguns. I never got the chance to fired the Thompson’s before they got replaced much to my disappointment.😢

During the Viet Nam era the Landing Party was issued M1 Garand’s. No idea what other Landing Party equipment was issued and I was on the Landing Party. Fortunately, I never had to find out.

Older Army style was OD, same general belt fastener, later converted to plastic, two hooks and the magazine module having first a snap, later velcro. I rather liked the belt fastener, quick, noiseless. Velcro secured mag case, not so much, noise attracts bullets.

Gators are regular issue items along with standard web gear would be stored on ship ready to be issued if needed, but is your personal issue gear

navy would have had the oldest stuff for off shore deployment. the war department wasn't going to pay for eqipment that was not going to be used, so ship crew would have still had WW1 even in WWII

I took the title to mean shore leave and when I saw the pistol in the thumbnail I thought 'Damn! The U.S. Navy party hard.' 😂

Thats interesting, I always thought that was the cleaning kit.

Regardless of whether people used the leg tie or not thin leather strings tend to not hold up well so they may have just broke and not been replaced.

Duty belts (same belt).were still used by watchstanders such as Soumding & Security through at least the late 80s The same belt, sometimes in white but not always, was worn by quarterdeck watches. With a 45.

@VintageCarHistory

10 ай бұрын

Yup. Wore one often.

@dennisfariello4852

10 ай бұрын

@@VintageCarHistoryMe too. Hated them. Not so much the belt itself but standing sounding & security watches. IIRC on the Hermitage only HTs stood S&S watches. On the Yellowstone man it was a long way down to the Emergency Fire Pump Room - 8th deck. I was so glad to get promoted to log room watch.

@leftyo9589

10 ай бұрын

on my first ship all fresh air snipes stood S&S, and all we carried was a sounding tape.@@dennisfariello4852

I like the tan old school gear

I had a sailor in the 1980s tell me they only carried five rounds in their .45 magazines. Do you know anything about this? He explained the five round limit was to keep the follower spring from compressing too much. I suppose if they were in a place where things could get ugly, they had access to more magazines or full magazines.

@dmeric6813

Ай бұрын

The 5 rounds per mag is true. Got issued those plenty of times.

What about the in port watch quarterdeck additional service belt/extra pieces and how many and what roles they would perform

I sure miss having mine strapped on, as a 2111.

What was the Small arms inventory when NJ was first comissioned? Were the marine and navy weapons kept seperately?

I really like that belt and what's on it.

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Obviously one is their service pistol so they can defend themselves

My guess is that every sailor already had things like the helmet and belt issued and only went to the Store room for the actual weapons. Maybe certain very specific gear. So the belt would have already been adjusted to fit and the holster and pouches just needed to be added.

Comms, RIFLES, lots and lots of ammo, grenades, water and food. With comms you can get fire missions from ships and aircraft. With man portable weapons you can defend your location UNTIL the fire missions DESTROY the enemy.

Probably an M1903 throughout WW2. I have an original 1942 M1923 cartilage belt in khaki color. It's not bad to wear with suspenders. It gets heavy with 10 loaded enblocs, full canteen, bayonet, and medical kit. Throw on two 8 pocket bandoliers, M1 helmet, and haversack.... it's uncomfortable. I can't imagine doing 10 miles a day wearing it.

There is a difference between Khakis and Flat Dark Earth, but both tend to be more for desert arid environments. If it isn't a specific camo pattern I suspect we're going back to Olive Drab.

The Corpsmen would have gotten a belt like that, but, without the pistol, and, extra magazines. In WW2, medics, and, Corpsmen were still classified as non-combatants, and, weren't issued weapons.

I still have my USMC web belt from 1984 with that same style.

Did sailors have small arms so they could work in confined spaces in the ships?

11:23 not saying that's how they did it, but the efficient way would've been to have a bunch of them preset in various sizes and the individual would say "yeah, i'm size X" and they'd be dispensed the closest fitting.

I might be wrong but I tend to doubt ships were issued the M1 during WW2. More likely they had 1903 Springfield's.

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

oh no, we made millions of m1 garands, and every service was issued them by wars end.

@glennrishton5679

10 ай бұрын

I tend to agree with you. I went on ship in 1971 The MarDet had M 14s and the sailors on the security force had M -1s. Also in the armory were Thompsons, BARs and M-1 Carbines.

@leftyo9589

10 ай бұрын

navy ships tend to be 20+ years behind on issue weapons.@@thurin84

The MAAs on the Wisconsin wore those belts with the 1911s but didn't carry them loaded that I ever saw. Their belts were white though

I know what sounding is (how you determine the water depth), but what/how are the sounding tubes behind you used? Did they drop their weighted line down them to hit the bottom?

@josephknaak9034

10 ай бұрын

Measures water in the bilge

@edwardrhoades6957

10 ай бұрын

really long measuring tape with a weight on the end.

Hi Ryan, we are Corpsman not medics (Army or other service). From a "Doc" 8404 FMF, HM1.

I'm interested if ship's company used Garand's during the Vietnam activation.

I have a belt like that, the only real difference is it has an fn1900 in the holster. I also have the helmet and m1 type ammo belt and a bayonet. The only thing that confuses me is my grandfather was in the army air force in wwii my uncle who gave it to me was in the navy in Vietnam, although he mainly served on the ground. My grandfather always said he just changed tires. My uncle only brought up his service once. Having to kill others, and only wanting to spend time with and take care of his family afterwards. I couldn’t even ask a question as it was clearly a dark place in his memory I didn’t want to prolong.

That preview pic haha. "I sell sailors and sailor accessories" - Hank Hill, probably

Reminded of Jack Nicholson in the Last Detail.

Shore duty personnel ever get a Mess kit Ww2 era?

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My grandfather was a medic in the Korean War. He had an M1 carbine along with his med pack, didnt have a 1911. Have no clue why he had a carbine and no handgun. He was drafted into the Army and got there right when the cease fire happened. The only casualties he had to deal with were people who stepped or drove on land mines after the cease fire.

@pauldietrich6790

10 ай бұрын

It's way easier to train the with the carbine for effective hits, the carbine was meant to replace the pistol. To be a good or even a decent shot with a pistol takes a lot of time, practice and of course ammo. And to top it off, it didn't have the range of the carbine...

not sure about the quality of ww I equipment, but much of the g.i. gear in ww ii started off as olive drab and faded to a more khaki color over time/use.

@thurin84

10 ай бұрын

yes, ww1 stuff was mostly khaki, though they were doing a switch to a kind of a pea green when the war ended. between the wars (in the 1920s) they switched to whats called OD#3 which is like the khaki with just a hint of green. during ww2 they switched to the darker OD#7. a lot of ww1 equipment was used throughout ww2 and into the korean conflict, some even into vietnam. the webbing gears is durable so they used it throughout.

What are those “sounding tubes” in the background?

@nmccw3245

10 ай бұрын

For checking the liquid level in tanks - kinda like an oil dipstick tube on your car engine. I believe Ryan made a video on tank level sounding.

@nmccw3245

10 ай бұрын

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Technically, the m1 rifle uses en bloc clips, not stripper clips, which is what the M1903 and all other Mauser action rifles use