God, Marxism, and the Fall of the West | Ayaan Hirsi Ali | EP 457
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali. They discuss the subversion of the West, how the pursuit of truth has become the ownership of it, the corruptive nature of the oppressor/oppressed power narrative, the importance of Christian ideals, and why a push for restoration is more necessary than ever before.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Fellow at the Hoover Institute at Stanford University, a Senior Fellow with the Future of Diplomacy Project at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at The Harvard Kennedy School, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the bestselling author of “Infidel” (2007) and “Heretic: Why Islam Needs a Reformation Now” (2015). Born in Mogadishu, Somalia, Hirsi Ali strove to live as a devout Muslim during her early life, but in 1992, fled to the Netherlands to escape a forced marriage. She became a citizen and went on to study at the University of Leiden. From 2003 to 2006, Hirsi Ali served as an elected member of the Dutch parliament and then moved to the U.S., where she founded the AHA Foundation to protect and defend the rights of women from harmful traditional practices. In 2024, Hirsi Ali founded Restorationbulletin.com, where she explores the forces of subversion plaguing Western society.
This episode was recorded on June 13th, 2024
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:13) Intro
(1:55) Restoration Bulletin
(4:25) The subversion of the West: “we all feel that something is off”
(11:33) Collusion between Islamists and Neo-Marxists
(13:47) Good dialogue and cultural Christianity
(16:03) The rise of tribalism in the West, metastasizing Marxism
(33:25) Can the institutions be saved when they are so corrupted?
(42:58) De-Radicalization: Germany and Gaza
(46:56) The victim/victimizer narrative is a major problem for Jews
(51:31) How Europe failed at integration: “we are becoming like them”
(58:17) Recognizing that we are lost: spiritual bankruptcy
(1:13:03) Society is based on the principle of sacrifice
(1:18:24) Tolstoy’s Confessions: the golden chord and the abyss of despair
(1:20:13) In conversation with Dr. Richard Dawkins
(1:25:17) The surge of presentism and the need to protect the classics
(1:27:34) The miracle of the Abraham Accords and the modern Pharisees
(1:36:07) We must offer a better invitation
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Ex-muslim here I converted to Christianity years ago, and escaped the death cult teachings in the Middle East. I still wonder till this very day how have I ever believed in such a thing and what good have I done in my life to be blessed and saved by our Lord Jesus Christ ❤
@ZakBB-nh8yd
7 күн бұрын
Liar
@hamodalbatal464
7 күн бұрын
@@ZakBB-nh8yd it seems I have hit a very sensitive nerve on your sub-Islamist mind الحمدالله على نعمة المسيحية ✝️ و نعمة الردة عن دين التدعوش و الاجرام و كفى بها نعمة
@anthonybrett
7 күн бұрын
From a religion based on death and hate to a discipline based on on love and forgiveness. Now you are truly aiming for God. ;)
@anthonybrett
7 күн бұрын
@@ZakBB-nh8yd Forget the path of hatred and drink from the blood of Christ my friend.
@larcm3
7 күн бұрын
Same here. I was ex Muslim but I left Islam for Buddhism. The Abrahamic cults are pure evil. Buddhist teachings have brought peace and tranquility in my life
I said to my 14 year old today in the truck while playing this podcast. "Now, this is a lady who is a hero". My daughter responded, "I totally agree mom, I remember Aayan from a few years ago when you were listening to her speak." My heart grew two sizes.
I love this lady. She has the most beautiful combination of a fierce intellect with a gentle soul.
@1fitRN
7 күн бұрын
“Blessed are the meek, they shall inherit the earth.” Yeshua of Nazareth
@Yorkshire7
4 күн бұрын
She’s making money from her day job through anti Islam propaganda which the media pays extremely well.
@teresabrown9027
4 күн бұрын
Agreed
@MohamedAli-lt9ju
3 күн бұрын
Hahaha..made me laugh there. No, she's just been wheeled out again by her puppeteers, this time with a flavor to infiltrate the rising conservative/populist movements in Europe and the US, and divert from the real elephant in the room (right-wing antisemitism) under the cover of "Islamist antisemitism."
The problem is that in the US we have freedom of religion and islam is considered a religion but i believe it is a political system not a religion and it destroys any country that embrasses it.
@wilhelmbuzzkyll
7 күн бұрын
All organized religions are political systems. The Catholic Church is one of the most influential political institutions in the world. It isn’t being political that makes Islam a terrible ideology.
@anitakathleenpierce4420
7 күн бұрын
Religion means re-link to our roots! The west is the most lost people because of the dark ages and control of record keeping by the Catholic Church to keep us divided …. Other countries have their dynasties and are not lost from their own history like the west
@vvv70v
7 күн бұрын
The end goal of Islam is to submit the whole world to sharia law also known as a political system. It is not just a part of their book but rather the main goal of it.
@TERRAVIEWTOURS
7 күн бұрын
@@vvv70v You nailed it
@FlyingGospel
7 күн бұрын
@@wilhelmbuzzkyllThat's a hate fueled assumption. You know nothing of true religion. Islam is not a religion as OP said.
"after the Soviet Union fell there was no reckoning" . Wow I could listen to her all day. Thank you, Dr peterson, for letting her speak at length uninterrupted. 👍
@Video2Webb
6 күн бұрын
And how much more she has to give, if she gets the chance.
Her face is glowing. Apparently, she has found the peace of her maker, the peace that surpasses all understanding.
@Mollica03
3 күн бұрын
shes deluded. its one form of control to another as far as religion is concerned. The abrahamic religions are the most disturbing and destructive, because they basically preach the same and yet find a way to make the brothers of faith hate each other
I was hoping for this discussion for a long time. I hope she goes on Joe Rogan next. The world needs to hear this Woman.
@TomFooleryTheAustere
7 күн бұрын
Why? Rogan is a spoke in the wheel of destruction that she’s talking about.
@jimluebke3869
7 күн бұрын
She doesn't go anywhere she could be tracked to. The woman has real enemies, serious ones.
@JenkinsPsych
7 күн бұрын
@@TomFooleryTheAusterequite the opposite. He’s a free thinker and talks to people on all sides of the spectrum. We need more open dialogue, that’s what Ali is talking about!
@rustymcrae7739
4 күн бұрын
@TomFooleryTheAustere what makes you think Joe Rogan is a spoke in the wheel of destruction?
@jimluebke3869
4 күн бұрын
@@JenkinsPsych Joe encourages people to use drugs, for one. If we're comparing subtly destructive cultural fads, the one with the highest objective bodycount is drug use (100k+ per year.) He's also irrationally hostile to Christian teachings. The only time I've ever seen him get actively angry, was when he was talking with Matt Walsh about the Christian definition of marriage. Joe's certainly not "open to dialog" about that. So you have Joe advocating not only for death (drugs) but celebrating sterility as well. You could argue that despite these failings he's still a net positive, sure. But you could easily imaging a Joe _without_ those failings, and they are very serious failings.
people in the West need to learn again that it is ok to say „NO“. you don't have to accept and deal with everything that is thrown in your face!
@deanheystek2522
7 күн бұрын
It used to be that it was allowed, to say no. If you say no to medical interventions and lockdowns, for example....
@witoldnowak9327
7 күн бұрын
It starts with saying “NO” to own leaders. It is hard as history demonstrates again and again, even for the clowns.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
6 күн бұрын
The 1st thing to throw out of a 30 story building is multiculturalism and diversity shyte 💩
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
I wrote an entire book against radical homosexuality in 2017 and was not exactly celebrated for it!
@deanheystek2522
23 сағат бұрын
@rosalvabooksllc354 Celebration isn't what we look for, but revelation.
I just came back from swimming with my kids, getting ice cream with them, shopping for swim suits, and getting caught in a rain storm. In short, having a great day with my kids. And I come back to find this and my heart is just a bit too full for words yet. Dearest Dr. Peterson, I was thinking how many years you admired and venerated Ayaan and wanted to speak with her and how you finally did when you were just getting a bit of health and strength back, and how talking to her strengthened you. And now it’s so much to take in that you got to speak with her again, after her conversion. I’ll be listening tonight after the tired and waterlogged kids are in bed. Will share thoughts then. But for now, I just wanted to leave the most enormous cherishing hugs for both Dr. Peterson and Ayaan. May God grant that I can give you both those in person one day. With love from Ruth Anne, Rainy Day Person ❤
@bestdjaf7499
7 күн бұрын
Dude, it's all about the money. Nurses & Doctors loved COVID because they were paid 2x-4x the hourly rate. A lot of people loved it, because they didn't/don't have to go to work & save thousands of dollars. On the opposite side, you have people who were fired & businesses have been closed. My sister saved thousands every month working remotely. My dad has $60,000 credit card debt. The same with everything. When you wouldn't be able to afford time with your kids, & will have to work nights/weekends delivering Uber Eats, then you will really understand.
@mr.y981
7 күн бұрын
Your pfp is creepy Baby Raindeer vibes Calling the cops...
@afringedgentian5426
7 күн бұрын
@@mr.y981My profile picture is the professional photo I had taken with Dr. Peterson when I met him in Boston. I am proud to stand for and with him.
@stubinski268
6 күн бұрын
@@bestdjaf7499a bit of a simplistic overview about covid I think 🤔
@afringedgentian5426
5 күн бұрын
@@mr.y981 my pfp is me and JBP.
Fear of Islam is not called Islamophobia. It's called common sense.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
It's deeper than Islam
@MrMustang13
8 күн бұрын
Islam is just another tool in the Devils toolbox.
@ladannuri4702
8 күн бұрын
Says the genocide supporter😂
@richierich440007
8 күн бұрын
Correct 🗣️
@annjames1837
8 күн бұрын
Islam is the only religion that requires a pretend word like Islamophobia to protect against critical facts
I loved when Ayaan told Dawkins, "I choose to believe." It is a choice of the will; God giving us free-will makes it so.
@JayJay-wg5ex
7 күн бұрын
why is that more romantic than ' I choose not to believe?'
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
7 күн бұрын
Yes that was a great talk! I notice there is something about Dawkins that he hates Christianity. I think it clouds his judgement and thoughts. Just like how Sam Harris hates Trump so much that he can’t make a clear argument for some of the good things trump did. The danger of the intellect for sure. We need more of these conversations. ❤ we need to keep talking and keep an open mind.
@esthermarcen7587
7 күн бұрын
@@JayJay-wg5ex feel in peace with it
@karenaiello9817
7 күн бұрын
If we loose free speech we will be finished. George Soros wants to buy all the radio stations to be able to brain wash the mass of people who already can't watch. t v or movies
@divine0enigma
7 күн бұрын
choosing ignorance isn't a brag.
My Daughters middle name is Ayaan. In her honor. She'll be 17 in few days.
@Hichkas111
7 күн бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🎁🎂🎊🎊🎊
@dianamills5243
7 күн бұрын
Good choice.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
6 күн бұрын
Well done!
@abaker4692
6 күн бұрын
How did you know who she was 17 years ago?
@curtbarker2704
6 күн бұрын
She has been a voice for more than 17 years
This is a critical conversation that needs to be heard.. if enough people don’t wake up chaos is inevitable
@justthedon1792
7 күн бұрын
Chaos is always present
Christianity that's the most fundamental part of what made western society so wonderful and free and prosperous. The abandonment of Jesus on the west has caused its collapse.
@nickh.9816
7 күн бұрын
I believe you are correct.
@lucacuradossi1040
7 күн бұрын
Nah it was the enlightenment, the bible ruled for over a 1000 years and many "evils" of today as slavery and sexism was endorsed by that book. The shift happened in a christian environment but it wasn't because of the ideas of the book.
@scribbler60
7 күн бұрын
That's an interesting take. It should be noted that the more religious a society, the less free it is, the less prosperous it is, and the more violent it is.
@donnafoster5215
7 күн бұрын
@@lucacuradossi1040With the advancement toward literacy, translations into common languages, and printing technology, the Bible became more widely influential.
@lucacuradossi1040
7 күн бұрын
@@donnafoster5215 so? In western countries the laws are in direct opposition of the bible
Thank God people like this have devoted so much to getting us out of this insane mess.
@ip6289
7 күн бұрын
They have no a slightest chance, unless we stop relying on someone's help and join them
@cinders302
4 күн бұрын
The trouble is, the world seems to still be in a Holy war, and I believe will continue and be much harder to control because of globalization being what it is. I hope I'm wrong. She's a bright woman. I appreciate her demeanor - in part because it directly opposite of my own.
THIS woman! ❤ Absolutely love Aayan and it's always wonderful to see her! As an art historian I am so appreciative of she, and Dr. Peterson most certainly, speaking out for the Western canon and our institutions which house these works who are choosing instead to destroy their importance in the name of 'woke.'
I wish subversion was talked about so much more. It's the core of the vast majority of our issues in the US
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
I'd like to tell you more but can't here
@nickking-edwards9301
8 күн бұрын
Yuri Bezmenov aka Thomas Schuman was right ✅️
@bubblepopper9979
7 күн бұрын
Three world powers, two are the same, third is paid off by a fake nation, history can’t be questioned, speech is cens0red , Brandy Vaughan is gone, WE CANT TALK ABOUT IT!!!
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
6 күн бұрын
@@nickking-edwards9301bingo
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
In our politicians, courts, and universities. May they be betrayed themselves and their evil goals come to an end.
Having watched Ayana Hirsi Ali’s … conversation … with Richard Dawkins, I loved how she hugged him at the start. And at the end .
The bravery and logic is inspiring. Praying that Ayaan’s optimism becomes reality because otherwise we are in huge trouble.
"Now when these things begin to happen, look up because your redemption draws near." Luke 21.27 ✝️
@lucasramirez320
3 күн бұрын
Amen Brother. 《And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet》Matthew 24:6
She is such a gift.
@NeoKnotSee
8 күн бұрын
She is a useful tool for our cause but too much melanin to be one of us.
What we find in the teachings of Jesus is radically different from Islam. Thank you both for opening up a better conversation on the de-Marxification of our universities and K-12 schools, and the hope of a restoration of Judeo-Christian values. It will be difficult and take a lot of the kind of courage you demonstrate continuously renewed in the place of prayer.
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
There have been people fighting this for years. They just weren't publicized or heeded.
After the last Marxism episode this is gonna hit hard. Communism and Islam have some similarities that are not talked about.
@JordanX767
8 күн бұрын
They whine and complain in similar ways.
@bookillful
8 күн бұрын
Both nihilistic, both promote the desecration of humanity and call for destruction of those who don't believe. Whereas Jesus, through his knowledge of the Jewish faith called for love of all of humanity. To live by the Spirit of the Law, not just the Letter of the Law.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@bookillful Both are knewstick
@piob9801
8 күн бұрын
imo, Both of them were borne out of envy.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@piob9801 Marx was originally created as a new religion like scientology
Ayaan Hirsi Ali- dont be ashamed of the Gospel of Christ because it is the power of God unto salvation! Share your story, and Glorify his name on earth!
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
5 күн бұрын
She, like many young followers of Christ, need time to walk their faith in Jesus. Be patient and kind. Don’t trim the small shoot before its maturity .
@Mowglibaloo2
5 күн бұрын
Proud of my Christian faith and what it has done for my life.
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
It is truly our power and protection and wisdom.
I’m 83 and had this experience when I was 27 and have thought about it and talked about it ever since. It has been a defining moment. It is simply the experience as expressed by Ayaan - thank you.
I am a Born Again Christian and although I have never been evangelical that might change. It gives me such joy when people when people from Christian cultures embrace their Christianity and just as much when people from very different cultures convert! There no better feeling that Christian fellowship. Godspeed to us all.
@cinders302
4 күн бұрын
Muslims will say the same. And the wheels goes round and round
@Camille_Anderson
3 күн бұрын
@@cinders302 there's no comparison!
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
Evangelical just means tell someone about it! It is a requirement of salvation according to the Bible. Jesus said Matt 10: "2Everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father in heaven. 33But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. It shows sincerity and courage.
Im glad Im born again and serving Christ alongside an intelligent woman like Aayan.
@santiagogarciamedina4775
Күн бұрын
Heretic.
"The truth is compelling when a french intellectual is forced to swallow it." 😂
@joeday4293
8 күн бұрын
As the kids say these days, that was a bar right there. LOL
@SidMajors
8 күн бұрын
Yeah that made me laugh as well xD he’s not wrong though!
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
6 күн бұрын
A French intellectual is such an oxymoron.
@Camille_Anderson
3 күн бұрын
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pidsome of the greatest intellectuals have been French
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
2 күн бұрын
@@Camille_Anderson aaaand THAT, is exactly my point!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the most important topic that the people aren't talking about.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
* not allowed to talk about. Conversations are directed
@NeggaNate
8 күн бұрын
Directed through projection.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@Mr196710 Nothing to do with that. That's a red herring
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@Mr196710 I've seen evidence, but you have not seen countering evidence.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@Mr196710 I've been there, but US citizen
Thank you Ayaan for your courage to speak out against the forces of darkness. May God bless you.
I was at the debate between Ayaan and Dawkins. I was stunned at how sophomoric his case for atheism was conveyed. His argument was essentially that you can’t believe in God and also be a seeker of truth. This is categorically false. You can’t prove there isn’t a God as much as you can’t prove there is. If Dawkins was actually in search for truth, he would be willing to accept that in this case, there is no “truth”. You guys are amazing. Thank you for your sanity. It makes me feel so much less alone.
@umwha
7 күн бұрын
Would you say ‘there is no or truth’ if we were talking about fairies?
@NeraBuffy
7 күн бұрын
"Relativism for me but not for thee."
@davidlynch9049
7 күн бұрын
People who believe in a God can't even answer the primary and logical questions about God: Where is God? Why does he have magical abilities? If he's so powerful, why doesn't he use his powers to stop misery? Why do you think God talks to you? Why do you think God listens to you? As a lapsed Catholic, I know how Christians answer these questions, but the answers are excuses with no verified proof. Since man began, he made up various Gods to help him cope with life. This, to me, is the only valid reason to believe in God.
@KristenCarneyComedy
7 күн бұрын
@@umwhaare we saying faeries may have created earth and the universe? Then yes. Since there is no actual proof of who made the universe, technically that is on the table 🥂
@umwha
7 күн бұрын
@@KristenCarneyComedy it might’ve been fairies. It might’ve been God. It might have been scientific processes. Indeed we cannot say which of these things, but this does not support your argument. This is a god of the gaps argument.
Ayaan’s announcement of her conversation on Nov 11, 2023 is on my family calendar. My children will grow up knowing this day. All the experience and wisdom and grace and courage she has brought to the public conversation on reality we have already benefited from and now the reality of God…we were and are thrilled.
@afringedgentian5426
8 күн бұрын
I get tears in my eyes thinking back to that day and how I prayed for our precious sister Ayaan, that our Lord would bless and gently lead her.
God bless everyone today
@alexcrowbz
8 күн бұрын
God bless you sister
@joellukeovercomingvictoryt8183
8 күн бұрын
Thank you same too you Sister in Christ may God bless you : )
Ayaan is a sweet soul, and I pray for her. Thank you so much for interviewing her!
@janetsmiley6778
6 күн бұрын
Jordan is twisting his intellect into a pretzel to keep from surrendering to Christ.
I am shocked this discussion hasn't gained more views yet. Critical topics of enormous weight that everyone on this planet need to hear and embrace.
This is an excellent summary of a highlevel view of current cultural issues. God bless these two for articulating what we have all felt in our hearts.
@brendanekins2159
7 күн бұрын
couldnt agree more. His description of the way that economic marxism came to be the cultural marxism of today floored me. and shes a fierce one.
Two minutes in to this interview, I like this lady already. Lord, protect and guide her.
I love how Dr Peterson gets overwhelmed with the need engage with the discussion. He even cuts her off a few times, he just can't help himself. It's a testament to the great mind of Dr. Ayaan.
As a Kurdish Shia man from middle east, I thank GOD for having a blessing like Ayaan on our planet. Thank both of you for your efforts for humanity💐
@ladannuri4702
8 күн бұрын
Humanity?this guy celebrates the genocide in gaza. Where is the Humanity for the beheaded babies in gaza?????
@ladannuri4702
8 күн бұрын
Humanity?this guy celebrates the genocide in gaza. Where is the Humanity for the beheaded babies in gaza?????
@thelaserchick1
8 күн бұрын
Bless you and bless the Kurds
@carduchi5881
7 күн бұрын
I learned to think criticaly under the influence of the great Christopher Hitchens. He was among those who took Ayan under his wings early after she experienced the deathcults true colors after the murder of Theo von Ghoch. Totaly understand and support her position. I am glad she is having the great fight and be on her corner.
@lindigregory119
7 күн бұрын
God bless and keep you Sir❤
“They have stage 4 cancer it will cost more to save them.” So true. Love this topic & this lady. She is smart smart smart.
Man, i love seeing brave people!
I find it incredibly valuable to have someone whose intellectual origin comes from outside of Western Culture to help us find the problems in it at this point. There has always been a tension between the forces of order and those of entropy. Currently entropy is winning which implies that the forces of order need to apply more energy to the system.
This was fantastic! I’m not sure if the current situations can be reversed! God bless Israel
1:11:30 It is the wholesale rejection of Christianity that has got us to where we are today... I agree
Biggest thing i reject here from JP is , Islam doesnt need to be weaponized. It is already one.
@kkunknownkk
7 күн бұрын
This attitude and the failure to distinguish between what JP recognizes is an even bigger issue than the radicalized groups. We now have more people (like you) that hate muslims than there are actual muslims that are worth hating.
@r.m5883
5 күн бұрын
YEP!!! Either he knows this and doesnt want to eliminate some of his fanbase OR he doesnt know despite how much he came in contact with it recently
@Mollica03
3 күн бұрын
so is christianity and judaism... all three are weaponosed to tear humanity apart
@johnv5275
3 күн бұрын
@@Mollica03 not even close
@matheussalim5652
18 сағат бұрын
@Mollica03 🤡
Thank You Dr. Peterson and Thank you Ayaan Hirsi Alan. Such conversation is much needed now and you both and others like you are courageous to stand up to the status quo with such civility, authority and respect. I continue to admire you all. Thank you sincerely ❤
She is right about the west not trying to squash communism at all like it has tried with Fascism.
America is still a great dream. The streets never were paved with gold like my grandmother thought they would be but boy am I glad my grandparents came here before 1931
@LyndaStrutt
6 күн бұрын
I'm proud of Jordan Peterson as a fellow Canadian! Thanks for bringing Hirsh Ali on your program!
GOD BLESS YOU JORDAN PETERSON 🩵🩵🩵YOU ARE A BLESSING TO THE WORLD
This conversation opened up my mind and made me curious albeit interested to seek more answers and ask more questions. Please continue... appreciate this very much ❤
AMAZING INTERVIEW. IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION IN NAME OF PROSPERITY, PEACE AND LOVE FOR MANKIND AS ONE.
I sense that something revolutionary is on its way
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
The Hebrew word for 'oppose' is 'satan'. To oppose is to revolt.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
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@Hfxnn
8 күн бұрын
i’ve been having the same feeling the last couple days. something big is coming. whether good or bad, only god knows
@la8076
8 күн бұрын
Nothing ever happens
@MeanOldLady
7 күн бұрын
A revolution is a circle. It's the same bullshit with a new set of tyrants.
That’s it… I’m buying her book. She’s incredible.
@joeday4293
8 күн бұрын
If you don't know her story, I strongly recommend beginning with the memoir "Infidel" - it will make it plain exactly how she came to be such a tough, tough lady.
@geoffkerr5701
8 күн бұрын
Agreed, it's a great insight and painfully truthful @@joeday4293
She should be made a part of all school curriculum
Aversion to conflict is an agreeable human trait. Conflict is what we need. Calling all disagreeable people.
To both of you: This time you did unusually well. Thank you for nailing your formulations on so many details! This was an experience of clarity. Here are several stepping stones from where further important leaps can be launched.
Absolutely fabulous as always
Ayaan Hirsi Ali's life experience background makes her analysis of what she sees in front of her become a strong and trustworthy reason. I agree with her. She has a complete vision.
@Mollica03
11 сағат бұрын
im an ex muslim and dont agree with her at all. She is pretending to be gentle but she is putting in dangerous ideas about muslims into people's heads. sure there are problems like in any other religious community, but she is shooting herself in the foot if she thinks her framing of islam will actually help her integrate in a white majority society. These kinds of talks only help encourage racist undertones and people will direct their hate at people like me for being brown or having a muslim name. I want to live in peace and i dont think her antagonism against islam will help me live peacefully in future because people are antagonising people from my race these days
Thank you Dr Peterson for sharing this interview with Ayaan and having this conversation. She is brilliant.🙏
Ayaan is a special speaker, anyone who has a chance, should listen to this
Thanks for this brilliant conversation between both of you intellectuals and very much appreciate both your respective work 💙🤍❤️✡️✝️
I’ve been thinking about a line from Madeleine L’Engle’s novel “The Arm of the Starfish” which, if applied, would completely shatter the victim/victimizer narrative to smithereens. “If you are going to care about the fall of the sparrow, you don’t get to decide who the sparrow is.” I think that is worth an essay and it’s been teasing my mind for months needing to get itself properly argued out and set down on paper. It came to me as I was listening.
@mickeyconnor830
7 күн бұрын
If I may, I recommend sitting down with a pencil and paper and writing out a persuasive essay. For those who may not be familiar, the simplest process begins with a brainstorming map. On the left, draw a large circle with the main point written within it. In the middle, draw 3 circles, aligned vertically, and write 3 points which, together, encapsulate the entirety of the main point. To the right of each circle, draw 3 horizontal lines, and upon them, write 3 examples or arguments which support each of their respective points. Once you've nailed those down, write each of the 3 central arguments out in paragraph form, exploring all of the supporting information you've chosen to present. Once that's done, arange all 3 paragraphs in a comprehensive order, then rewrite them as many times as you need to, in order to present them in the most succinct and convincing way you are able. You can then write an interesting and compelling introductory paragraph, which presents the main theme and touches on the main points. Finally, write a summarization of the other 4 paragraphs which reiterates and emphasizes the conclusion to which you would like the reader to come. I would very much like to read such an essay, with that sparrow analogy as its central theme. I'm curious to see what that would look like.
@afringedgentian5426
7 күн бұрын
@@mickeyconnor830hi, I’m actually a professional writer! Been at this for thirty years and finally going professional!
@afringedgentian5426
6 күн бұрын
@@mickeyconnor830I’m a professional writer but perhaps someone reading your comment was inspired to write something they would not otherwise have written! ❤
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
I hope you do. She only has a start there.
People are emotional, and they believe in whatever they're emotionally attached to. An emotionally influential person can make people believe emotional things without logic or reason. But they'll make it sound logical.
@RandyW-sp5zw
8 күн бұрын
Yes Trudy, the waste of skin, End of story 😁🇨🇦
@rext3404
7 күн бұрын
Hence why wokism is predominantly spread by women.
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
It never worked well with me and I am female cursed with extreme logic.
Among the institutions that need restoration, I would include person-centred health care, which always included spiritual care. We have become entirely mechanistic and materialistic in our approach to medicine. This was not the Christian way. St. Basil's Basilaea included the care of soul, spirit and body.
What a great conversation. Thank you both.
What an amazing conversation. Thank you.
Great discussion. Thank you both for your intellect and faith 💙🙏
Thanks to Ms Ayan & Mr Peterson for this excellent conversation. ❤
Glory to the King 🤴
Blessings from Montreal Canada
Phe-nom-en-al conversation. She has an inspiring mind!
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of my heroes.
She is a fierce warrior. Bravery unmatched. God bless you and protect in Jesus name. Iraqi Christian in Australia, you've the heart of a lion. Stay Strong.
What a wonderful conversation thank you so much again! ❤
Thank you both so much for this conversation. Always such a pleasure to hear Ayan's thoughtful responses, much appreciated
Two of the intellectual treasures of our generation.
Wow. She is so wise.
Can’t wait to listen to this when I’m running! 🏃🏻♀️
@rosalvabooksllc354
Күн бұрын
Running for what? Haha...
Bravo beautiful Ayaan! You are a ray of sunshine ❤️❤️
we need more voiced like this to be lifted up. thank you so much Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
"no reckoning on Marxism after its fall in 1989...." ....👍great point
@brendanekins2159
7 күн бұрын
so good. oh my god..
@floralee7358
7 күн бұрын
@@brendanekins2159 Ms. Ali’s quote - for losers, the history just started (in 1989)…. for those losers in Marxism and communism, this is not about religious fight, or a struggle as they called it, this is the root cause of ALL bloody revolutions (the killing, the robbery of human rights) they initiated,…so, of course, this is not over, this is only a beginning.
I love her❤😚 and how she explain things and her pov ..soo calm and careful
Thank you so much for very interesting discussion. you are amazing people. I was born in Middle East I know exactly what Ayaan is talking about , God bless and protect you. I’ll take this opportunity to Congratulate Ayaan for her conversion hope and pray that she will open many eyes and brings them to Christ the World be safe place.
God damn....thank you both, stunning insights. lucky to live in a world that brings this to us.....
Utopia is an impossible endeavour and yet when great minds come together to respectfully discuss, challenge and debate a topic with absolute truth, we get as close to the heavens as is humanly possible.
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
But it is such an end, there is no sacrifice not worth making. Including the extinction of the human species
@pauliewalsh6875
8 күн бұрын
@@sdrc92126 Define sacrifice, and indeed to whom or to what?
@sdrc92126
8 күн бұрын
@@pauliewalsh6875 You give up your life for a future utopia and since we're all reincarnated, you'll share in the future.
@pauliewalsh6875
8 күн бұрын
@@sdrc92126 Why do you speak with such a confident certainty about reincarnation?
@adilevnatimasheva4370
8 күн бұрын
@@pauliewalsh6875b/c person believes in reincarnation.
Two of my absolute favourite brilliant minds.💝 Please keep deconstructing the ignorance spreading like wildfire 😢
I have just finished the Daily Wire section, and it was excellent, as always. Ayaan has that look. That glow. That light in her eyes. I know that look. I’ve been watching it on many faces for many years. Her conversion is a true inner transformation. It’s a bone-deep knowing that whatever happens to the West, whatever happens to our earthly bodies, whatever happens to everyone we love, that “all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well,” as Julian of Norwich wrote so long ago. I have seen that look on Ayaan’s husband Neill’s face as well; I saw before conversion video and after conversion video and the difference was palpable. It’s a beautiful thing and it is individual to each soul’s journey toward God, Who is Love and Light. And perhaps if Richard Dawkins knew that God is not some fictional Sky Daddy but instead the very source of all love and all light and all goodness and all truth, he might feel very differently about Ayaan’s conviction of soul. And I believe that is what it means to write, and speak, and live for the glory of God. To write and speak and live in such a way that light is shed on the true nature of God, author of love and joy and peace, so that people who have believed lies about God can see Him. And I think that living for the glory of God would save the West and redeem the meaning crisis. With Ruth Anne’s love
She speaks from the hart, and the mind. She is right indeed
Respect for her humility,
What a fascinating discussion!
Love your work! Timeless conversation. Please may request that dates of interview be placed on video. Timing is helpful as the world is change are such a disturbing speed. Appreciate you both. The world needs you!!!❤
So happy she is a believer now! WOW
Hallo Ayaan, leuk je weer te zien en horen Hoop dat alles goed met je gaat. Lieve groet uit Nederland ❤
I always love Jordan’s creative blazers
I love this woman❤️, will have to watch. She has lived an epic life and shes still so gentle
I’ve never had so many KZread adds in a single video. That’s when you know the system recognizes you’re saying the truth. They try to distract and annoy to change the thought process.
@flappyturtlesnatch
8 күн бұрын
Agreed. It seems like they've kicked it into overdrive for the past few days.
@kennethmullen-qe9hg
8 күн бұрын
One trick you can do which almost always works for me, when videos bombard me with ads, is if it looks like crazy ads, when barely getting into the video, drag the cursor and skip ahead playing only the last 30 maybe 60 seconds of the video so that it plays/runs out that last little bit on its own, then click restart on the screen once that pops up, then drag it fast forwarding back where you'd watched up to. A lot of times there will be no ads at all then, BUT they're almost always, at least very greatly reduced in number...maybe one towards the very ending of the video or something.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
6 күн бұрын
@@kennethmullen-qe9hgwe need to be smarter and diligent in our dogged pursuit of the truth, which includes this handy tip!
She's really big on having different viewpoints but communicating and maintaining the friendship , she's a gentle person
Wonderful Ayaan. Thank you for this interview. Great both, Dr Peterson
I was waiting hoping and praying these two would do this! And here we are❤ Dr Peterson please go talk to Paul Logan. God bless you
Not every question has an answer. Not every society is good.