God does not exist: The philosophy is naturalism | Sean Carroll and Lex Fridman
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Faith is belief in the absence of evidence.
@ZaShiesty
29 күн бұрын
There is evidence but it is not scientifically verifiable
@Beaudreams
29 күн бұрын
cooked.
@hallucinatingsiren
29 күн бұрын
Tell that to Paul Tillich
@Imaginethis304
29 күн бұрын
@@hallucinatingsiren If I could I would, so I told it to my theology teachers instead.
@ZombieCartmanYT
29 күн бұрын
Faith is the belief that all the evidence of intelligent design couldn't have existed in the absence of God.
My guess is that we won’t be able to use physical theories to replace morality and similar categorizations because it will not be practically computable to model or deeply investigate individual thoughts, opinions and motivations.
"Believer in a machinastic universe." In other words, believer that under certain circumstances simple things can become more complex and that complexity can compound into things more and more complex. It is also to believe that to deny this on the grounds that it violates the second law of Thermodynamics, is not to understand the second law of Thermodynamics.
Kind of depends on your definition of God. Too many people hear “sky God” and immediately dismiss the idea when there is much more to it than that.
@chrismcclain6518
29 күн бұрын
Maybe sky God doesn’t exist. The Bible doesn’t promote a sky God, but it does contain the writings and testimonies from over 40 authors stretched over a span of 4,000 years that all consistently describe the same God, who and what his is. However, many people today like to conform God to their own beliefs and fantasies of what he is without acknowledging what he SAYS he is. People, times, and society all change, but God has always and always will remain the same. Point being, I believe there is definition for God that is far more credible and consistent than the god we people can each individually define for ourselves (hence, each person’s god is different).
@renetuuliranta4980
28 күн бұрын
@@steelearmstrong9616 Is that supposed to be an argument against a creator?
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
@@renetuuliranta4980where is this god?
@aiya5777
28 күн бұрын
Either way the belief in God, Gods, supernatural whatever are just placebos at best when it comes to the Real deal in life, ofc placebo isn't enough placebo by itself is useless
@soniccynic4746
28 күн бұрын
@@steelearmstrong9616you should look into NDE’s. I used to think like you. Now after investigating 1000’s of NDEs I have no doubt that there is an afterlife. Nothing connected to our religions. Just a greater consciousness which seems to revolve around a sense of deep love and belonging. I used to think the lights just get switched off, now I am kind of excited to live for eternity. All the best.
We don't know who we are.
@tbone5654
28 күн бұрын
Or what we are, or why anything exists.
@rikib.3444
28 күн бұрын
@@tbone5654 fundamental questions that remain unanswered to this day
@rct999
10 күн бұрын
Does God know who he is?
@tbone5654
9 күн бұрын
@@rct999 We have no evidence that god/gods exists, and no evidence god/gods don't exist. Religious people say they believe in god knowing the definition of the word believe is, "an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without ""proof."" Many say it not knowing the true meaning of the world. I Do wonder, if god or gods do exist, does god/gods know who he/she/it is?
@rikib.3444
9 күн бұрын
@@rct999 Knowing about It-self makes It-self partial and so It becomes us.
The issue here is your acceptance of vague statements that ultimately mean nothing as there are, in fact, arbitrary due to their subjectiveness. You should understand the paradox that the scientific method is our best hypothesis of dealing with, that "true" or classical knowledge is impossible for a spatially defined frame of reference. We, as a lifeform, are limited to, at best, educated guesses. That we have to operate on faith in our assessments of reality while understanding that faith is an irrational mentality so that we take responsibility for our own actions and refine our assessments to better shape our environment in the chaos of it all. Actually, knowing a thing requires knowing all things but to act requires us to place faith in that we think we know and treat a guess as a fact.
@Dapryor
29 күн бұрын
I agree with most of that. I don’t think we have the ability to ask the right questions.
@thecoolguy3498
29 күн бұрын
Idk. Technology and science working as well as it does says that we have a better understanding of the world around us then some think we do.
@IzudeDarkwolf
29 күн бұрын
@thecoolguy3498 you clearly haven't tried researching quantum physics and the rampant pseudosciencific "rationality" where the supposed mathematical experts don't understand what a fucking percentage or probability actually is. It's rather convenient that they repeatedly tell you what experiments show with no explanation of what the experiment was, under what conditions, and what the actual, literal physical result was. Just still unfounded conclusions, hoping you eat the shit they make money off shoveling down peoples throats.
@IzudeDarkwolf
29 күн бұрын
@@thecoolguy3498 to put it bluntly, thinking one knows is the greatest sign of ignorance.
@thecoolguy3498
29 күн бұрын
@@IzudeDarkwolf That’s fair. Very good point when stated like that! Also why I don’t understand so blindly following religion. In a way, it’s both ultimate ignorance and also the opposite of ultimate ignorance, because they accept that they are unable to fathom it themselves. What a mind-bending subject to think about, which is why I typically tend to not pay much attention to it.
Naturalism, physicalism, emergentism. Notice it is not quantumism. The natural, the physical, the surprising and wonderful---that's where we live. Quantumism is the rarely visited basement, which takes extra initiative to descend to.
Sean: That's a very pothead question, Lex. I was wondering if he was gonna call that out lol
- Sean Carroll died! - What happened to him? - died in a accident, the wave function took care of him. - God bless his soul 🥲
it's ok to say that science is in a limited set, like mathematics is, so that scientists can bound their realm by just that
I’ve noticed that the intelligence we have at this point in time is why we are so arrogant about the God question.
@brun4775
29 күн бұрын
It is mainly arrogance. Most people are self-centered, so myths about gods that care about them appeal to many people’s vanity.
@ZombieCartmanYT
29 күн бұрын
@@brun4775 People are arrogant enough to think they are Gods.
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
@@ZombieCartmanYTno. It’s just silly.
@aiya5777
28 күн бұрын
the theistic mentality 🤡🤡🤡 other people don't agree with your opinion, therefore they're arrogant
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
@@aiya5777 no they’re sad. God is a comfort blanket. A night light. Santa clause. For morons that need it.
So Sean believes in a machinastic universe. So, what is the opposite of a machinastic universe? Am I wrong in presuming that that is what Mr. Fridman belives in?
Question for sean: where do thoughts come from? Let's not speak of the brain's steps in post thought process, rather the initial thought, kind of like the moment of the big bang (if you believe in big bang).
@aiya5777
28 күн бұрын
when you're thinking thoughts right now, ofc it's just the motion of your particles cascading down various neurons inside your head and so on at every single one of those motions collectively and individually is fully governed by physical laws, and that's the end of a story
Was a good podcast but this is just a bunch of vague big words I don't get it. Somebody explain???
I have been dead, twice. Ten minutes and 12 minutes. All I can say is this fella is in for one helluva surprise. He is going to crap his noncorporal pants when the sky scraper size snake made of parrot feathers with butterfly wings greets him.
Sean needs to have a sesh with DMT, ayahuasca, 2500ug of LSD or Bufo...I would love to hear the same conversation again :D
@Kangrej98
21 күн бұрын
We know how psychedelics affect the brain and we know all of what you see under its influence is happening only in your brain. Just look up what neuroscience has to say about it.
"Causally efficacious."
Well we don't see Lex jump in with his definition of supernaturalism did we. Maybe in the comments. Maybe I'll post one of my own.
“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,/Than are dreamt of in your philosophy” (Hamlet, 1.5. 165-66).
Precisely! We are part of the physical world and everything physical has a beginning and an end. No exception! The carousel of life! The 2nd law of thermodynamics demands it. But how would you explain the 1st law of thermodynamics? Where does energy come from? (How does energy enter the physical realm, when it cannot be created or destroyed and when everything physical has a shelf life?)
@isaiahking4165
28 күн бұрын
Not sure if this is you just giving an brain teaser, or using it to prove the existence of god. But personally, I think that the god of the gaps argument is pretty poor. Just because WE don't know, doesn't mean its proof of god.
There have been over 3,000 gods worshiped over documented time, and every subsequent religion has simply co-opted from the previous religions and maybe added a few new elements for differentiation purposes. In simple terms, religion had first been developed to explain the unexplainable, and then clearly developed into a societal controlling mechanism. In today’s world, religion is quickly becoming a lazy way to go through life.
@Imaginethis304
29 күн бұрын
💯It's very much used as justification to control others. Just have faith, they say. Trust in God. Pathetic and laughable.
@ZaShiesty
29 күн бұрын
@@Imaginethis304how exactly does trusting in God control you?
@Dawg476
29 күн бұрын
@@ZaShiestyBecause your trusting someone you don’t even know is real hence why you have to say you have “faith” in god not that you know god. Faith by its definition is believing in something without evidence.
@Imaginethis304
29 күн бұрын
@@Dawg476 💯
@kotonizna
28 күн бұрын
Religion and faith are two different things. Many people now believes in God but not religious at all.
I'm not religious enough to be an atheist.
@phoenixmodellingphotography
29 күн бұрын
Lmao that's a good line
@wingzero7316
29 күн бұрын
The old testament ancient Jews and modern day Muslims sacrifice animals to the Abrahamic God, God wants animal sacrifices which seems stereotypical satanic ritualistic. Reasons for animal sacifices is due to repentance for original sin caused by adam and eve bringing sin into the world which makes no sense. God created adam and eve without the knowledge of good and evil aka right from wrong much like a baby understanding. God supposed to be all onowikg, all powerful and perfect somehow expected adults with a baby like mentality to obey him and not eat the forbidden frute in which God created and placed in their midts (garden of eden). It like is parents placed a posionus plant into theirs babies play pen and get angry their baby didn't listen to them about not eating poison plant. Such parents deserve to spend rest of their lives in prison. Christianity is self refuting, Jesus and God supposedly one and the same, therefore God cannot be all powerful, all knowing, all loving, forgiving and perfect because God has limitations by not being able to just forgive humanity, instead God went through all the trouble of turning himself into a human in order to sacrifice (human sacifive) himself to himself to please himself which we told is why Christians don’t have to commit animal sacrifices. God committed genocide, Noah flood, killing first born in Egypt including children, Sodom and Gomorrah and etc. In both old and new testaments are contradictory on lots of things example slavery. A lot of passages support slavery and some can be interpreted against it, no biblical laws clearly against owning humans as property. There no scripture in bible supporting democracy nor mention of democracy, USA democracy was influenced by ancient Greece and USA founding was a product of the secular age of enlightenment, a lot of the founding fathers were not even Christians example Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, read his Jefferson Bible. No passage in bible supports democracy, no scripture clearly supports child labor laws, no scripture supports women having equal rights as men. I can go on and on. Your God probably doesn’t exist and your religion is bullshit. The bible doesn’t have timeless morality it a product of the time period it was written in and the good morals in bible are nothing special, majority of societies and religions around the world have laws against murder, it not unique to Abraham religions and predates them, it a natural survival instinct to not want to live in a society with rampant murders. Religion are all man made and humanity needs to move away from and all other dogmatism to including political dogma, communism, fascism and etc.
@wingzero7316
29 күн бұрын
I would believe in God any God and Religion if there was actually evidence. I was a none believer most of my life but an uneducated none believer who didn’t know anything about science and evidence against Religions/Gods especially Christianity. In 2004 age 19 I was going through a deep depression and I was given Lee Strobel books from deeply religious uncle. I fell for Christian apologetics and creationism because I didn’t know any better. Wasn’t until I researched science and counter apologetics for the first time. Lee Strobel and others like him lie for profits, their arguments reinforced there no evidence for Christianity. Lee Strobel and other like minded apologetics use bible as evidence for the Bible, like the eye witness to Jesus resurrection, empty tomb and etc. with no evidence outside the bible supporting it. Even the exact location of Jesus tomb hasn’t been proven. There are suicide cults like Havens Gate who died for a lie they deeply sincerely believed in, there other suicide cults to. Also none of the gospel writers were actual friends of Jesus, they were written in Greek decades even a century later as is the case of Gospel of John. Writers are anonymous who used the names of Jesus friends. I recommend you read Bart D Ehrman books. Even if they were eyewitness, there are people alive today who claimed to have seen, big foot, fairies, space aliens and etc. if you unwilling to dedicate your life to people you can talk to today, why dedicate your life to claims of people who lived thousands of years ago? The old testament ancient Jews and modern day Muslims sacrifice animals to the Abrahamic God, God wants animal sacrifices which seems stereotypical satanic ritualistic. Reasons for animal sacrifices is due to repentance for original sin caused by Adam and Eve bringing sin into the world which makes no sense. God created Adam and Eve without the knowledge of good and evil aka right, and wrong much like a baby understanding. God supposed to be all knowing, all powerful and perfect somehow expected adults with a baby like comprehension of right and wrong to obey him and not eat the forbidden fruit in which God created and placed in their midts (garden of eden). It like if parents placed a poisonous plant into theirs babies play pen and get angry their baby didn't listen to them about not eating poison plant. Such parents deserve to spend rest of their lives in prison. Christianity is self refuting, Jesus and God supposedly one and the same, therefore God cannot be all powerful, all knowing, all loving, forgiving and perfect because God has limitations by not being able to just forgive humanity, instead God went through all the trouble of turning himself into a human in order to sacrifice (human sacrifice) himself to himself to please himself which we told is why Christians don’t have to commit animal sacrifices. God committed genocide, Noah flood, killing first born in Egypt including children, Sodom and Gomorrah and etc. In both old and new testaments are contradictory on lots of things example slavery. A lot of passages support slavery and some can be interpreted against it, no biblical laws clearly against owning humans as property. There no scripture in bible supporting democracy nor mention of democracy, USA democracy was influenced by ancient Greece and USA founding was a product of the secular age of enlightenment, a lot of the founding fathers were not even Christians example Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, read his Jefferson Bible. No passage In bible supports democracy, no scripture clearly supports child labor laws, no scripture supports women having equal rights as men. I can go on and on. Your God probably doesn’t exist and your religion is bullshit. The bible doesn’t have timeless morality it a product of the time period it was written in and the good morals in bible are nothing special, majority of societies and religions around the world have laws against murder, it not unique to Abraham religions and predates them, it a natural survival instinct to not want to live in a society with rampant murders. Religion are all man made and humanity needs to move away from and all other dogmatism to including political dogma, communism, fascism and etc.
@Strawberrytabbyforpresident
29 күн бұрын
@wingzero7316 there is some truth in what you say bro. There is a god a being above us. But what is. I don't know. And idd all religions are man made.
@vagabondcaleb8915
29 күн бұрын
Of course god doesn't "exist". As a tautology, god is not empirical/falsifiable.
Lex, it would be incredibly valuable if you could host a debate between this guy and Hugh Ross. Hugh Ross is a Christian astrophysicist
@vSwampFox
29 күн бұрын
Dr. Jason Lisle also has quite the knack for debates.
@Zummbot
29 күн бұрын
Debates with Christian scientists are a complete waste of time. Christianity has nothing to offer science, and these “debates” only serves to legitimize Christian nonsense for gullible people already prone to believe in mythology.
you mean the philosophy "of" naturalism, I think, not is - in the title
If there are infinite multiple universe, then various forms of "God" exists in many realities.
@Zummbot
29 күн бұрын
…he asserted without any evidence whatsoever.
@jimson3785
29 күн бұрын
@@Zummbot It is a logical necessity. If multiverse theory is true, it is necessary for forms of a "God" to exist. The Kardashev scale shows one possibility of this outcome.
@aiya5777
28 күн бұрын
@@jimson3785 except there's no evidence for such multiverse
@jimson3785
28 күн бұрын
@@aiya5777 You completely miss the point. Sean Carroll, the guy who is making the claim that there is no God, supports the theory of a multiverse. Hence my original comment.
Here in Utah, God is a license plate. 😇
What confusing philosophers and scientists we fabricate nowadays....
@user-vl9pm1dm9s
28 күн бұрын
His view is incredibly lucid. You just need training wheels on the conversation.
Justin bieber and odell beckhem 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 look it up
God is the only answer! Seek him in everything you do!
"God is dead." -Nietzsche,1882 "Nietzsche is dead." -God,1900
@christoforos4126
28 күн бұрын
This is the best comment
@AtheistfanGuava
20 күн бұрын
Mortal concious beings have a crisis/desperation to explain their own existence, meaning of their existence and rationalization of death( ending of conciouness).
@christoforos4126
19 күн бұрын
@@AtheistfanGuava You mean, as opposed to immortal, unconscious beings? Hmmm yes very sciencey, I like it. Everything you think is obviously 100 percent correct and not a projection at all
@AtheistfanGuava
19 күн бұрын
@@christoforos4126 what is a example of immortal , unconscious being ?
@user-hy9nh4yk3p
5 күн бұрын
@@christoforos4126 There are other good comments - here too. This comment - once was published - in a book - on the subject of toilet scriblings - in the 80's. One still ponders - over its meaning and chuckles. Fare thee well - in life's journey.
science also supernatural. is moral natural? science doesn't know. moral needs more than technique.
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
……..what?
@robertoverbeeke865
22 күн бұрын
@@user-xr7fi6dy1w shit. i wasn`t sober and listening for something to disagree on.
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
21 күн бұрын
@@robertoverbeeke865 😂😂😂👍👍👍
The only thing that has had me question anything deeper to life tban nature were psychedelics. They opened my mind up to the endless possibilities of life natural and supernatural. Lets face it, we dont actually know shit in the grand scheme of things.
@user-hy9nh4yk3p
5 күн бұрын
Me - the pursuit of meditation - within the inner reality - of everything - thoughts and feelings etc. Done for 52 of me 63 years ... Good stuff. Fare thee well - on life's journey.
There are 100 god (Jesus, Ram, Krishna, Allah etc) But people believe in jesus not allah and allah people dont believe in jesus, Ram, Mahadev etc So they don't believe in other 99 GOD Then practically you are as atheist as me. I don't believe in none. If jesus is god, why people turning into lgbt? Why churches being empty? Why he didn't made everyone Christian? Why he made Muslims? If allah is god, why it made kafers? Hindu, jewish, Christian 😂😂 Why it didn't help Palestine children?? Why god didn't stop hamas from attacking on isreal? If i say devil made universe people will ask for proof but if god then they will follow blindly. There's no such thing as previous life, after life, heaven, hellll0, god. Have high moral level in your life, help people selflessly. Do good in life. Be atheist. If God was real and actually all-knowing and all- powerful he would know how to make me believe he was real. So far he hasn't yet and so I continue believing he is not real. "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. Ie. Prophet Mohammed make entire new religion is to rule the land. But people won't read books and history and follow religious books blindly 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@ZaShiesty
29 күн бұрын
Do you think it is really conceited of you that you think the creator of the universe needs to prove himself to you?
@billshepherd4797
29 күн бұрын
The answer is Choice. Having free will, God allows us to make choices that are wrong. With out that choice we actually would "follow blindly" as you say.
@Imaginethis304
29 күн бұрын
@@billshepherd4797 Which one of the thousands of different "Gods" is allowing you to make wrong choices?
@pat2562
29 күн бұрын
. As long as you recognize that our "choices" are severely limited by our born mental and physical limitations and then shaped by the place, time and environment we were born into and which is entirely arbitrary. I was never able "choose" to be a doctor or lawyer or physicist, my intellectual weaknesses literally preclude success in most areas. Some people are born sociopaths. A loving husband can be rendered violent by a tbi. So sure, we have some limited agency over our lives but in my experience, the average person way underestimates the role luck played in their lives.
@Imaginethis304
29 күн бұрын
@@ZaShiesty Or is it conceited to think there's a super natural power out there that cares about you?
I ain’t religious but it’s definitely a higher power. Idk it’s name what it look like or what it want but it’s way to much in the world man and science can’t explain or show me.
@thecoolguy3498
29 күн бұрын
You still seem to be reaching. Why are you so certain of this? You’re absolutely certain that this couldn’t all be coincidental? Where did the higher power originate from? I’m genuinely trying to get some insight into people who feel this way
@renetuuliranta4980
28 күн бұрын
@@thecoolguy3498 Its probably not that anybody is 100% certain, but it seems that there being something more is a very real possibility. Is coincidence really a better explanation for all the seeming design and order? We just cant know for sure at this point. Also the fact that nobody could tell where the higher power came from does not disprove it. Just like people who believe in the multiverse can't tell where it came from doesn't disprove the multiverse.
@rct999
10 күн бұрын
The author of this simulation?
God is just the "super" part of the natural world. God is the part of nature that is EXTRA natural. There is what's real. There is what's fantasy. And then finally (and initially), there is the RealFantasy.
@user-hy9nh4yk3p
5 күн бұрын
Yeah .....
Lol this guy is agent Smith. Listen how he talks 😂
@Strawberrytabbyforpresident
29 күн бұрын
😂
@brentwells6123
29 күн бұрын
I. I can’t unhear it!!
word of salad exits, therefore God doesn't exist
Wave Function Realism is supernatural. It proposes that an immaterial entity encodes everything into the future onto worldlines as causal patches. Some of these worldlines represent non-linear undecidables (human experience). By universality, any entity/system that can emulate X (human experience) must be equal to or greater than X. A human mind is Godel/Lobian class, therefore the UWF must be Godel/Lobian or greater. It must be an immaterial mind, which violates matter before mind (naturalism) and supports mind before matter (supernaturalism).
@Zummbot
29 күн бұрын
Everything you just said is pure woowoo.
@eenkjet
29 күн бұрын
@@Zummbot It's the opposite. It's computer science and the least "woo" of measurement problem interpretations. "Woo" is usually reserved for CCC (consciousness causes collapse). The above explanation models Everettian with Special Relativity (relativistic measurement which results in causal patches). Do you follow this topic?
God created the universe. Then who created God ? Oh God is eternal. Do you have any evidence ? No. The Universe is eternal. No, How do you know that it's eternal ? Because either you don't have nothing to prove God exists and it is eternal. You can claim anything ! Yes, i have no way to demonstrate it. Therefore our Universe is uncreated.
@Math_oma
28 күн бұрын
"Who created God" and "who caused God" are questions no philosopher familiar with the classical arguments for the existence of God would take seriously due to the fact that they are equivalent to asking "who caused that which is uncaused?" or "what cause is prior to the first?". The answer to those two questions is obviously "nothing". And who are you talking to in your little dialogue? Someone who doesn't know the reasons (strawman) or someone who does (steelman). That there is something uncaused which fits all the classical attributes of God can be proved using arguments you may find in books like Ed Feser's "Five Proofs of the Existence of God" which carefully think through what it means for there to be causation (there's plenty of evidence of causation), and we're inevitably led to the existence of something which is causally prior and cannot possibly be anything we'd identify as 'just the universe' or 'just a law of nature'. The arguments also have nothing to do with the eternality of the universe, as you will see.
One of the smartest guys Lex has had on in the total existence category.
Human history has worshipped over 10,000 different deities, all believing that they are 'the one true god'. Religion is a human condition expressed as the way the individual perceives their reality, or to participate in a collective perception of reality.
@pasifred8589
29 күн бұрын
Almost none of those deities were believed to be the one true god, except for the monotheistic religions, which aligns with the concept of the Creek philosophical unmoved mover.
@Eudaemoniac
29 күн бұрын
@@pasifred8589Aristotle was a polytheist and his unmoved mover is not you’re god
@pasifred8589
29 күн бұрын
@@Eudaemoniac Not the point, is it? Be as it may, he described something metaphysical that can not be moved but moves everything.
@Eudaemoniac
29 күн бұрын
@@pasifred8589Which has nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian god
The universe is not a function.
The problem with “ the physical world” and looking at everything through a scientific lens is it destroys a sense of meaning. God made you, everything that science can prove can’t tell you why you’re here. That’s why God still matters. You’re here because he loves you. He’s part of you. Enjoy the journey.
Of course that God exists and it was here on earth more than 2000 years ago as Jesus. You all smart a… gonna be surprised one day. I don’t get it, humanity thinks that they “eat all brains” and that they are so so smart and know everything about everything but in reality you don’t have a clue what is hidden in the oceans
lol snappier and more attractive label... having a tough time selling it to the masses, eh?
@anthonyz548
29 күн бұрын
No need to sell it... if you go looking you will surely find it and almost certainly no god.
@bryankrauss6334
29 күн бұрын
@@anthonyz548 classic materialist practicing self-denial
@dmcentYT
29 күн бұрын
@@bryankrauss6334 Classic ego maniacal human practicing “we created all the bearded man did it all” what a deeply egotistical existence to think humans are the end all be all.
@anthonyz548
29 күн бұрын
@@bryankrauss6334 I assure you friend, I don't deny myself much.
All that advance knowledge, and no common sense! I feel sorry for all with this mindset.
@isaiahking4165
28 күн бұрын
Whats the common sense of god?
@SandeepSingh-ip7pk
27 күн бұрын
@@isaiahking4165to create is one of them. All knowledge is with him. Everything could not come from nothing. That everything has a purpose. Your purpose is to know your creator. And worship him in the manner that he prescribe. He knows his creation. And what is best for them.
@isaiahking4165
25 күн бұрын
@@SandeepSingh-ip7pk I think the cosmological argument is interesting, and it sounds like your referring to that a bit. But I just think its an argument that cannot be disproven, but also cannot be proven. What makes you say all knowledge is within him? What about our purpose being to know our creator? And the bible is not a applicable source to point those arguments to, because the bible itself is not any more objectively factual than any those other arguments.
If Sean Carroll doesn’t even understand the Mary’s Room thought experiment (he doesn’t), he shouldn’t talk about these things.
Of course god doesn't "exist". As a tautology, god is not empirical/falsifiable. I'm so bored of this.
@mohammed-mp4vj
29 күн бұрын
I agree 👍 It's so boring and repetitive talking to these edgy nerds atheists . They're literally a teenagers trapped in adults body . Same edgy mentality!!
@chad969
29 күн бұрын
@vagabondcaleb8915 if something isn’t empirical or falsifiable, does that automatically mean it doesn’t exist?
@mohammed-mp4vj
29 күн бұрын
@@chad969 I'm not disagreeing with you 😅 I'm beliver
@chad969
29 күн бұрын
@@mohammed-mp4vj Sry I meant to direct that comment to the OP
@rct999
10 күн бұрын
What if the universe didn't have a beginning? What if atheism was better software than religion?
SC speaks in riddles..he says nothing!
@akudowells869
27 күн бұрын
He doesn’t I been wondering why I been having so much trouble getting through his videos with lex feels like he answers but doesn’t answer anything
Intelligent design is evident everywhere, from physics to the beauty of a tree or the complicate functions of a human brain. God is real.
@TheDanielLivingston
29 күн бұрын
The existence of complex systems doesn't necessarily mean they were designed. You must prove that separately
@dmcentYT
29 күн бұрын
Ego speaking there my friend to think humans are the end all be all and have the special afterlife and all mighty creator of all. Would you fault ants if they would argue their god is the omnipresent? How about slugs and theirs? Keep that ego pumping my friend. You are an accumulation of billion of years of accidents and evolution hard to comprehend so saying beard man created us is much easier on our brains.
@ZombieCartmanYT
29 күн бұрын
@@dmcentYT For all we know the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that the Universe was created for just us to exist in. Until you prove otherwise we will go with the dominant theory. Your Ego tells you that you are correct, because you have nothing else to base your beliefs on.
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
@@ZombieCartmanYTyou’re just basically saying I believe because it makes me feel good. All god is nowadays is a comfort blanket. Or a night light. You need one at least you admit it.
@ZombieCartmanYT
28 күн бұрын
@@user-xr7fi6dy1w I don't need any of those things. I don't even go to Church like a lot of Christians do. You want to believe in nothing so you can live guilt free. Because if there is nothing after life then nothing we do matters. If you really believed that, you would go try to fly. Who knows maybe you can.
lol, hearing him talk about the natural world and "supernatural" world. speaking as though one is legit and the other is for fantasy play time. then turning around and speaking on newton vs Einstein made me actually laugh out loud!! For both newton and Einstein at one point in history what is now considered the natural world of science was at that time consider a supernatural world view of science. I did like how he commented about arguing on what the word supernatural means. but not in the way he meant it, he feels supernatural should be tossed away and only follow the natural. and that felt less sincere and more mokery. this is very sad seeing as how at one point in time earth was flat and to think anything else would be considered supernatural thoughts or ideas, anything but base reality. i mean obviously look around you as you walk around earth seems pretty damn flat.............. so by that logic look around your universe it seems pretty damn void of life but our own and it certainly doesn't look like god is out there somewhere. so this means this is the natural state because I can prove it with my science. I look straight in any direction and I see no curve to the planet. therefore newton is full of shit and his supernatural science is garbage. do you see now Sean how that only hurts your own arguments not helps??? do you see how the wise man would instead simply say that all nature super or not is nature the "super" is simply the unknown aspects of a very real natural reality. just like earth is very much so round
@stevensmith5873
29 күн бұрын
we see this over and over don't we? at one point in time germs were "supernatural". they don't have faith in anything that they can't already prove, so they are stuck.
@VolodymyrPankov
29 күн бұрын
In general the notion of supernatural it's pure stupidity. Because actually if something exist and has some characteristics/properties it's already natural. The analogy with flat earth incorrect in this context. The notion of supernatural created by biological people who selection of monkeys. Consciousness of primates full of biological problems. People want to believe in supernatural. But the notion actually has no any sense.
@Zummbot
29 күн бұрын
You are the Dunning-Kruger effect personified.
@alanunruh7310
29 күн бұрын
@@Zummbot lmfao that is hilarious because that is exactly how i feel about Sean!!!! what is even more funny is im not the one that makes these claims and is providing the evidence that makes sean look like a fool. that is coming from people like Stephen C. Meyer, Eric Weinstein, Francis Collins, lol hell even Max Planck and Albert Einstein believed in a creator............. but i guess if you believe even those men are victims of Dunning-Kruger effect then really that just says more about you than it does them or me.
@alanunruh7310
29 күн бұрын
@@Zummbot lmfao that is exactly how i feel about sean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! infact i think its hilarious your trying to put that on me when im not even the one thats saying this im just repeating what the experts far smarter than him are saying. i get my info from people such as Max Plank, Albert Einstein, Eric Weinstein, Stephen Meyer, Nikola Tesla, Jin Jong of MIT, Russel Cowburn of cambridge, and Dean Hastings also of MIT i find it fascinating that some of the worlds most cutting edge Physicist and scientist some of which are responsible directly for the very science Sean trys to use to disprove of god. is the very ones that believe in a god.................... you might want to rethink just who is displaying the undisputable effects of Dunning-Kruger.
I agree that the discussion should be about what super natural means and includes. Naturalism can be the same as physicalism or it can also include the immaterial. Even Daniel Dennett told Keith Ward that you cannot have a world view that does not account for information, this is why Daniel considers himself a naturalist because there is more than just matter, there is information/meaning. The difference is that some put this in the religious or super natural because it is not physical. Meaning and information do not have simple location and are not reducible to atoms. But are beliefs, goals, values super natural? I would say no but they sure as hell aren't physical. So both sides tend to miss this point.
4:38 If nobody can explain how the natural world, or anything for that matter came into existence from nothing then I will ALWAYS see that as more than enough evidence for GOD.
@mbolez
29 күн бұрын
This is called "the god of the gaps fallacy"
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
Or an argument from incredulity
@aiya5777
28 күн бұрын
just because something cannot come out of nothing, it doesn't necessarily mean the cause for something would be a supernatural thing you made a claim that there's a supernatural thing caused something, then you bring me verifiable evidences for the existence of supernatural things around us you have 0 evidence for even the existence of Lesser supernatural beings i . E the Angels, the demons
Yeah Sean then define Dark Energy as something other than an immeasurable force. Until it is defined as an actual thing and not a thing that can't be observed or described, then I will assume it is simply God that keeps our universe from flying apart. The Bible describes the birth of the universe in its opening words. Science will one day prove the existence of God and creation. That is why the JWST looks as far as it can and sees more galaxies that shouldn't be that well formed yet. Because the universe was created the way it is. All we can do as scientists is observe.
He believes in the non existents of God. He has to believe because he can’t prove the contrary. There are to many things that are a mystery to be able to do that. As knowledge grows so does the mystery.. Not knowing can make you a believer.
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A tiny Jaw will always say god does not exist.
@isaiahking4165
28 күн бұрын
an even tinier one will listen to a book written by humans thousands of years ago
This is gay
Please don't cover the national protests or international protests or international protests of the invasion of Palestine
@LoganChristianson
29 күн бұрын
What's there to cover? Israel declared war on a terrorist organization and people are upset that innocent civilians got caught in the cross-fire. Welcome to war, bucko!
if god exists than it is natural.. it is just semantics
GOD IS REAL! trust that
@user-xr7fi6dy1w
28 күн бұрын
No. No I won’t.
@user-hy9nh4yk3p
5 күн бұрын
@@user-xr7fi6dy1w What one thinks - one becomes. Fare thee well - in life's journey.
@user-hy9nh4yk3p
5 күн бұрын
What one thinks - one becomes. Fare thee well - in life's journey.
God=The Creator of the Universe Exist! Full Stop
@1970jaw
29 күн бұрын
The Universe was not created.
@user-ir1pw4sf3v
29 күн бұрын
@@1970jaw ..... in your mind appeared from thin air!
@1970jaw
29 күн бұрын
@@user-ir1pw4sf3vNo, it has always existed. There never was a time when there was no universe.
@pracitus
18 күн бұрын
@@user-ir1pw4sf3v religion and cults have damaged humanity so much, you are an example of it
@adamschannel8685
14 күн бұрын
Proof? Or trust me, bro?