Sounds Helen Ziller feels threatened by The PA does she want to keep neglecting nd leaving the Coloureds out. Does she not want fairness also for the Coloureds nd all Rainbow Nation. Coloureds too need to be included in tge scholarships programmes. It should nt be about controle but fairness nd unity for All

The PA joined the GNU before DA joined. If I am correct DA only signed up on the day of the first parlement sitting.

Helen is being silly to have said what she said she needs to change her attitude towards PA they have the rites to be part of the government

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

What Zilla needs to learn is that PA was voted in. Similarity between her and Zuma is that they think all the votes belong to them. Ego dictates what they think.

@AndrewMcFarlane_1

Ай бұрын

The agreement was signed and PA can't say what must or must not be in a document when they are not part of it

@brendakruger2597

Ай бұрын

@@cheznone9296 Zilla is an intelligent woman. She just needs to keep quiet.

IF THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT SIGHNED BY THE DA AND ANC THEN I AGREE...BUT THEY SIGHNED A AGREEMENT!!..THATS THE DIFFERENCE...

It’s a signed deal. Now do you say that clause isn’t applicable yet

I like Charles, PA’s attitude has been pleasant

@berniceclassen4531

Ай бұрын

Charlse started the party. Gayton is the coloured man that is a front most probably.

Helen is within her rights to not want to go with the PA they declared war on the DA prior to the elections

@annebantam2562

Ай бұрын

What rights may I remind you she is not the majority party and secondly she speaks like that of a boss mentality

@user-md4op6ko3y

Ай бұрын

@@annebantam2562 never underestimate the power of a women she is the boss and is the pivot of the DA like it or lump it

Yes it's not going to be easy but they are different parties but it's not about them but the country,I'm praying for the President to be firm in appointing people and not be easily swayed by anyone🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤

we meed UNITY..... Why are you stirring Media

@Yvdberg

Ай бұрын

Immaturity and everything he is accusing Helen and the DA off...

@ralphsmith2739

Ай бұрын

Helen and the DA has a history of arrogance.

Helen is scared of pa double crossed people of Capetown look who is in parliament

So he's suggesting that the parties in the GNU are going to be a surprise, and if you're not happy at the end you'd just withdraw? What if the final GNU doesn't have 50+1? Because parties might just withdraw at the end of this process if they don't agree with the make-up of the GNU.

@philipcowie2478

Ай бұрын

everyone please just ignore this common sense and logic being spewed here. thanks

@CNCza

Ай бұрын

Will be a plus. Re-vote.

There is something odd here. The president must form the cabinet before the coalition agreement is finalised. Did i hear this correctly?

I love the simplicity of the PA

DA stop being a bully do it in your party but in GNU hold your horses mam don't make people look at DA in a bed way as difficult to work with it's not an partied era this one please show some love and respect for black people🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤😂❤

@brendakruger2597

Ай бұрын

This has got nothing to do with black people

@helgapenzhorn796

Ай бұрын

​@@brendakruger2597she does speak "down" on other parties in a rather jarring way. Her style does not befit a Government of National Unity. She still speaks as if she is the main opposition party.

@ralphsmith2739

Ай бұрын

There's this new syndrome called LOOKING DOWN ON OTHER PARTIES.

Gayton youre not welcome read the clause clearly the ANC and DA hold the power

@infoBot7Vidhrm

Ай бұрын

You may be a Gate-keeper for the DA, but I don't think the ANC appointed you as theirs, as they have their own. So, you should get out of the way as you don't make the decisions here.

@user-md4op6ko3y

Ай бұрын

@@infoBot7Vidhrm this is a Democracy I can express my opinion all I want

@infoBot7Vidhrm

Ай бұрын

@@user-md4op6ko3y Absolutely! Just as it is Gayton and PA's democratic right to take part in the GNU by accepting the invitation of the executive decision - makers here, the ANC, not the DA. Got that?

Why is Helen Zille more opposed to the PA than even the EFF or the MKP? She is even buddy-buddy with Zuma himself!

@patiencedlomo4519

Ай бұрын

PA is their most dangerous party in the WC

@dawidmare7383

Ай бұрын

Don't know where you got that, but it's definitely not accurate. It's true that PA gives DA sleepless nights, but in no way is the Zille friends with Zuma. And I'm sure after Zuma's so called "state of the nation" adress, less likely so.

@chriatinemogne2835

Ай бұрын

It's not the PA per say she is bitter and see Geyton as her biggest threat..they took her votes..problem in disguise..she must be disciplined..totally out of order..exclude DA..other parties will make up more than 51percent..

@chriatinemogne2835

Ай бұрын

White arrogance..she must be excluded

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

Glory Hunter. Has a hard on for anyone with the numbers.

Perhaps it's time for Helen to go.

@QueenZan

Ай бұрын

She's a Sassa gang, retirement is long overdue😂😂😂.

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

Helen is better than convicted criminal and xenophobe mckenzie,

@kennethward2537

Ай бұрын

It's about time ! she should have been gone 5 years ago.

@squibsp

Ай бұрын

Helen is a very capable person and very astute, the type of person this country needs at this moment

@annebantam2562

Ай бұрын

​@@squibspthat's not true Helen still has that apartheid mentality very bossy it's either her way or the highway

Charles Cilliers is my new favourite person

@kennethward2537

Ай бұрын

Did you vote for him ? Just a thought ....

The PA will probably leave the GNU once they don't get the positions that they demand.

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

NOT SO. Watch this space.

@ralphsmith2739

Ай бұрын

If Gayton McKenzie says the PA will leave then you can bet your life on it..

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

Ай бұрын

@@ralphsmith2739 That flip floppers word cannot be trusted.

@ralphsmith2739

Ай бұрын

@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Jealousy makes you nasty!!!😄😄😄

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

Ай бұрын

@@ralphsmith2739 Jealous of a flip flopper ? Nah , don't think so.

If these political parties are for citizens best interests why other parties are being discriminated. This is completely racist

She should be voted out as early as possible without any delay

@ThembaTsela

Ай бұрын

Well, without DA, these small parties don't have the numbers to prevent a VONC.

GNU needs the PA party! PA showed the DA a thing or two in the Cape, Helen is threatened by Gayton, maybe it is time for her to go

@margaretnayger2426

Ай бұрын

They do not need any other party DA and ANC already have 60%

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

PA should be isolated for their tacist, xenophobic and criminal rhetoric

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

Ай бұрын

PA showed us how not to run a town. They just lost 2 seats to the DA in this weeks by-elections. People are waking up to what the PA really stands for.

@user-md4op6ko3y

Ай бұрын

Helen will laugh at how much an idiot power hungry Gayton is remember they declared war on the DA prior to elections

@JanitaSchoeman-sx6ye

Ай бұрын

PA are hungry for power and that is it. They said themselves they know nothing of running a country … THE DA KNOWS HOW TO!!

Helen renew your mind... its not about you, never was and never will be.....its about whats best for South Africans

@oswaldbarnes5861

Ай бұрын

Vehemently disagree with you. The recent by-elections are a reflection of poor governance in Beaufort West and Laingsburg by the PA...empty promises!! They should not be included in the GNU!!

The ANC needs to let Zille go and let John Steenhuizen speaks. No need to have an old mamma who wanna dictate

I agree with Charles

Helen please your ego .... voters dont need your arrogance please....viva PA 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

@gwhoughton19

Ай бұрын

Hi I'm not pa supporter but I agree this is for our country not their issue

@gwhoughton19

Ай бұрын

Also both parties must find peace

Just have the discussion. And allow them in. Come on the parties want inclusion

Why does the media in the majority only provide a one side. Why did they not have a DA representation on the program. And in the future have the other party that are being discussed in absentia (MK and EFF) to at least be able to defend themselves. One sided reporting is poor journalism and we should not accept midiocrity.

Other parties can learn a lot from this man.

@berniceclassen4531

Ай бұрын

Is Gayton just a front for a white man who started the party.

@annebantam2562

Ай бұрын

​@berniceclassen4531 get facts straight Gayton started this party what white man are you referring to

Now Helen is the one who is running our country??

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

Yes, She should ran it,

@RedReignAuto

Ай бұрын

​@@jameskillu9171 that granny must go to a retirement home

@annebantam2562

Ай бұрын

​@@jameskillu9171hi wena you again in south africans issues go have your say there in Zimbabwe

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

Glory by proxy. Steenhuisen her lap dog.

Helen thinks she's in control of the GNU not at all and all the parties are welcomed what is it that she is afraid of in PA? weather she likes it or not they are people's favourite in the GNU 😂😂😂😂😂

@Jagged-mm7sb

Ай бұрын

Some ANC member think they are in charge. Da what to be included in the discussion

For me the GNU was created to protect certain Parties why? Why did we vote if they can't be opened to all South Africans and AIR their disagreements because after all as a Citizen we have voted as South Africans for CHANGE.

Helen is so anti-democratic and terribly unconstitutional

UNITY UNITY THE MORE PARTIES THE LESS CORRUPTION

Zille speak something had deal with ANC and i trust her bcz I can't remember hide here side when doesn't like you so is better a person like that or not pretending

Yes it's too early to talk about that glow

Zille so mal soos n haas moet loop rus en hopelik n beter hairstyle kry genade wie wil nou soos liewe heksie rondloop 😂😂😂

@jeremiahwilliams394

Ай бұрын

😂

@mthemburosemary498

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂​@@jeremiahwilliams394

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

Dis nie haar hare nie. Dis mos a wig man.

ANC must consider MK if DA doesn't want to cooperate

@dawidmare7383

Ай бұрын

Nope. Nope. Nope

@didilekayfinest_onyinye8585

Ай бұрын

​@dawidmare7383 yes...yes...yes

@dawidmare7383

Ай бұрын

@@didilekayfinest_onyinye8585 Think. MK doesnt want to be part of it because of Ramaphosa. Zuma has a grudge because he allowed Zuma to go to jail. Ramaphosa is the president, so hes not going anywhere soon. Plus, all of a sudden Zuma want to our constitution and bring back monarchy. There's a reason why there's no more kings and queens who have all the power. It won't work in a modern world.

@coolplot6336

Ай бұрын

@@dawidmare7383 what has the so called Morden presidents done for us?

@squibsp

Ай бұрын

Are you serious! Go play in the traffic!

So effectively Charles just diagnosed Helen of some psychosis: ( This is not a big issue, its only a problem in Helen's mind, but it has no impact on the world we live in)? I am sure we shall hear from Helen shortly, unless the real political leader of the DA, steenhuisen reigns her in😊

@cheznone9296

Ай бұрын

Pray tell, how? You’ve seen what happens to salt in humidity? John is the same when she is in the room with him.

They'll have to debate about the claus. ❤️✌️🇿🇦

If we have as a country has made it here after so much of debate and noise I think all the parties shuold now concentrate on getting our country to work and that means you all working together for the benefit of our country, it's as simple as that let's agree to disagree our country and the future of our children are supposed to be our priorities

This will be Interesting if eff and MK can join.

Hon.Gayton said in his speech...Hon Deputy Speaker Lottriet I vited for u wuh😂😂😂😂

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

convicted criminal Gayton,

ANCDA+

I think we need to be privy to the contract that the DA and ANC signed as part of the GNU. If ANC is going against the contract that what will they do in the future.They dont have majority so they need to abide by the rules

Helen Zille misinterpreted the clause 24 ,but is trying to use it to her advantage......her advantage.

PA was going to join from the start. PA and DA are on one team.

Mirror

Come on, guys, think of the future 🙏 4:56

EFF and or MK kept out of it cause ANC can still form a governent with EFF and PA or some small parties or ANC and MK alone meaning DA and Company have no hold on ANC or anyone else.

Listening to this conversation I can not help in thinking that the very word “arrogance” is reflecting the PA leader’s language. Previous conversations with him did not give me confidence that he can be trusted given his own track record. He might be the weakest link in the GNU as he is also very egoistic . Just saying …

@helgapenzhorn796

Ай бұрын

The PA leader is McKensey. We need him in government.

@infoBot7Vidhrm

Ай бұрын

Ek verstaan jou pyne Sadie. Jy gaan nog baie lank n suurgat wees ou maat, want Gayton gaan nooit minder geld as jy het. Jy sal daai bitter pil maar net moet sluk mater. Al ontken jy dit ook hoe, dit is eintlik die bron van jou pyne vir Gayton. Terwyl hy die honde loslaat, begin al meer van julle wit mense tjank soos honde wat brandsiek het. Gaan veearts toe.! Netnou besmet jy die goeie honde.

@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087

Ай бұрын

Was it not the PA who joined the EFF in Knysna causing total collapse of the the municipality? Honestly. Our country is falling apart. Fighting like this to be in power is waisting time on the real existing social problems. Our people/citizens should just ignore these politicians, role up our sleeves and start working together in keeping our services in tact. Each town should role up their sleeves and then be in competition with one another for the best run town and province in the country. Those towns then receives prizes shared amongst all the citizens living there. It is ludicrous for any party to be the cause of a towns total collapse. Would a father do this to his children?

@annebantam2562

Ай бұрын

I trust Gayton more than trusting DA are they not the same party that formed the moonshot to make sure to get ANC out of power whereas Gayton publicly said he will work with anybody even the AWB

@TimothySalimu

Ай бұрын

Gayton is utterly arrogant and overzealous I wouldn't work with the McKenzie character😮

PA only care about getting positions Gayton already said he will leave if he doesn’t get minister position

@quintonprince9783

Ай бұрын

And your DA doesn't care about positions? Stop being a hypocrite, what are a political party's main objective? To get into power or somewhat of a authoritarian position to somewhat implement their policies am I right? You people are just plain racist man, over 300 000 people voted for this party...

PA and DA are already working together.

Halen, the Joke is on you. She quickly showed her true colours or intent way too early 😂😂 my hope was that she will try to fight corruption and not attempt to be so controlling.

@LettieBerling

Ай бұрын

You don't know right from wrong go leard it

Was it not the PA who joined the EFF in Knysna causing total collapse of the the municipality? Honestly. Our country is falling apart. Fighting like this to be in power is waisting time on the real existing social problems. Our people/citizens should just ignore these politicians, role up our sleeves and start working together in keeping our services in tact. Each town should role up their sleeves and then be in competition with one another for the best run town and province in the country. Those towns then receives prizes shared amongst all the citizens living there. It is ludicrous for any party to be the cause of a towns total collapse. Would a father do this to his children?

You wrong😮 you do what you agree to if not then you all bananas with big salaries, if this must work then you do it the right way

❤I love our rainbow party equality for all south africans I love you guy's spread the love of Jesus even amongst our enemies

Eff and mkp must not let voters down and join gnu helen has no say she can say in da

@hambakabzela513

Ай бұрын

Let them force so DA and Company leave for the best

Just like when his leader Mr McKenzie put his ego aside when he said that he only would join the GNU if he gets a ministerial post??? That was definitely not arrogant of him.🙄

@quintonprince9783

Ай бұрын

Tell me quickly how would Gayton put his promise to his supporters in motion if hes not hoping for ministerial position? How would he do anything without sufficient power or authority?

Zille I feel for her, arthritis iyamshisa nengqondo

This GNU will fail hear my words.

Small parties trying to be relevant. Your party has no bearing on the ANC/DA/IFP agreements signed. You have 2.09% of the votes and want a ministerial post😂😂. Small parties have a history of jumping around as in Johannesburg

@ralphsmith2739

Ай бұрын

Maybe you forgot what David did to Goliath.

Sounds a bit silly though, because if the EFF decides to join the DA will leave. The DA and ANC, after all we're the only parties to sign the original statement of intent before the speaker was choses. The rest only agree to abide by the statement of intent afterwards. Seems logical the DA and ANC should be consulted according to this document's text. Anyway, what do we expect the PA guy to say? He's obviously acting in his own interest.

Let's wait and see Arrogant 😂😂😂😂

Charles you are Always having "negative"remarks about Helen Zille..Stop behaving like a geek!!!!😮

Bunch of kids

Charles tell helen she is old she can go home oud genoeg 😮

Why afraid of the GNU? People must know how things must work, but now people wants to hide it from us the voters. Helen is open and true towards us the voters.

MK party, PA are like " Still Born Cry babies. Another Parliament of Shenanigans.

X

the is no problem with DA you blacks you should not comment is better for you blacks to keep quiet an movie on with this crisis you hv cause this injuries

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Karen helen 😂

Zille moet botox

Gayton is super arrogant Sir!!!

@Tinker8531

Ай бұрын

NOT MORE ARROGANT THEN HELEN ZILLE, WHO THINKS HER 20% PARTY IS IN CHARGE. .

@sasha8664

Ай бұрын

They Are Tsotsi.Youre gonna feel the competence now NOT your usual decay,incompetence and Decay.WHETHER YOU like it or NoT.Comprende? Probably not.😂​@@Tinker8531

@sasha8664

Ай бұрын

Yes,Gayton is very Arrogant and their supporters are more uneducated 😊

Eff viva

Helen is busy throwing her weight around!

She doesn't like the PA you voted against the DA when you were in a coalition together, PA should at least be honest and have some shame... PA ego should deflat they a small party and stop causing this division

Nobody likes the PA gangsters

PA want minster position ...shame

PA clueless gangsters

It’s a signed deal. Now do you say that clause isn’t applicable yet