GM PCM voltage control device

our newest voltage controller for 2005 + GM vehicles with PCM control and 2pin plug harness. this is a frequency control module, not a volt meter. this is only used for GM vehicles with 2 pin harness.

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  • @FATHERSOFBASS
    @FATHERSOFBASS3 жыл бұрын

    You guys are killing it

  • @jhutch3677
    @jhutch367717 күн бұрын

    Exactly what I need. Running mechman 370 on srx caddy. Starts at 15 but drops to 13+

  • @adamwatkins76
    @adamwatkins76 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video!

  • @b1782w
    @b1782w Жыл бұрын

    Wiring multiple alts? Still use 2 pin regulators and splice / tie in wires together?

  • @bigohm306
    @bigohm3062 жыл бұрын

    Do you still have to splice if you’re using this on a 2nd alternator?

  • @aaronlawrence4218
    @aaronlawrence4218 Жыл бұрын

    i just bought a 320 amp alternator from you guys shipping says i get it monday super excited do i need one of these or just use what you guys send . i also had you guys build it to charge at 14.8

  • @scottiffanimccord1509
    @scottiffanimccord15093 жыл бұрын

    Thx for the mod and the video! The hammering in the background was just to much! I only lasted 58 sec

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    apologies, we are a working facility and do alot of fabricating.

  • @FATHERSOFBASS
    @FATHERSOFBASS3 жыл бұрын

    You guys are bad ass man

  • @ROTTBOXX

    @ROTTBOXX

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got one coming for the caddy

  • @metrosoap1236
    @metrosoap1236Ай бұрын

    I bought a PWM on Amazon, same one you got there. Where can I find the harness for a 2006 Saturn Vue with the 2.2 motor. I put a 06 Chevy cobalt 130 amp alt on and swapped over my regulator now it’s time for the PWM, do y’all sell just the harness

  • @jameslavinder4368
    @jameslavinder4368 Жыл бұрын

    Does having this make it to where you can now run ground wires outside of the rvc and not pass through it.

  • @stephenwhite5444
    @stephenwhite5444 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Hey with these RVC system alternators, does setting the voltage this way, where it's a constant voltage and say 15v (like you did in the video), lower the lifespan of the factory alternator or the battery? I might need to buy one of these, I have two Spal extreme fans that pull my voltage down at idle to like 12.5

  • @ruthless2221

    @ruthless2221

    Жыл бұрын

    What kind of battery do you have?

  • @thedavesofourlives1

    @thedavesofourlives1

    Жыл бұрын

    loading an alternator without increasing the rpm to keep it cool will damage any alternator regardless of voltage (a moderate load even)

  • @davidrobertson9522
    @davidrobertson9522 Жыл бұрын

    Mine don't have a plug in harness so do I just tap the pcm wire into my factory tan wire or do I cut it and just the pcm wire and let the factory just hang?

  • @marke.8334
    @marke.83343 ай бұрын

    Does doing this put a constant load on the engine and keep the alternator running even when it's not needed to charge?

  • @Angel_xXx_76
    @Angel_xXx_76 Жыл бұрын

    Can you consider making one for Hyundai / Kia vehicles please!

  • @Jim-airgood
    @Jim-airgood2 ай бұрын

    Ok so I have the alternator installed and the red wire ran from the alternator to the pwm controller wich is wired up correctly as well my question is on my 03 chevy s10 it has 1 wore for the factory plug do I take the white wire that you have supplied and run it to that and if so what does it do? Am I going to mess anything up if I dont?

  • @Nightshade_6.7
    @Nightshade_6.72 жыл бұрын

    How can we order an alternator from you all with this device?

  • @MIKEMOE99
    @MIKEMOE992 жыл бұрын

    Okay so does this bypass the smart charge completely then? So you get constant charging like the old school voltage regulator way?

  • @ruthless2221

    @ruthless2221

    Жыл бұрын

    It bypasses everything.

  • @deeznuttz7980
    @deeznuttz7980 Жыл бұрын

    Does this work on any high output alternator? I have a 350 high output alternator and it's a 3pin do you have a harnest that will fit a 3 pin alternator

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    We have a controller for the gm 3 pin

  • @davidsaucedo4795
    @davidsaucedo47957 ай бұрын

    What difference is this from just splicing factory harness brown wire

  • @johnysmashalot411
    @johnysmashalot4113 жыл бұрын

    Will this work for a second alternator not connected to the vehicle? Will this controll a independent alternator?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes it will

  • @joeypiedra4219

    @joeypiedra4219

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same way??

  • @user-wt2rs4rr6b
    @user-wt2rs4rr6b9 ай бұрын

    If the speed of the generator increases, the output voltage increases or remains constant

  • @IIDontCareBro
    @IIDontCareBro2 ай бұрын

    Will this work with stick battery?

  • @lylegoodluck
    @lylegoodluck2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have to have high output alternator? I have stock 160amp alternator in me 08' silverado

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @jesusfavela3434
    @jesusfavela3434 Жыл бұрын

    What if your using this regulator on the 2nd alternator that for bass amp only and has nothing to do with the vehicle charging.... Do I still tap that white wire into the 1st alternator factory harness or do I leave it alone and zip tie it out of the way?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    white only used when turning off dash light. for secondary it is not used

  • @jesusfavela3434

    @jesusfavela3434

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa sweet thanks .. just waiting on it to be delivered. Had the xs power vcm but it wouldn't let me raise voltage it would read 9.2 but on alt I was at 13.6

  • @markie1993
    @markie19932 жыл бұрын

    Can I use this on a 2014 chevy captiva. Have a singer 240 alt and it's internally regulated.

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    So long as it's a 2 pin style gm regulator yes

  • @shawnschuldt454
    @shawnschuldt4542 жыл бұрын

    I previously bought a pwm controller to make one myself but I may just buy yours to make it easier. What I'm confused on is I thought in my research it uses the pwm signal on a 5v not a 12? The pwm controller I have outputs whatever voltage I feed it unless this one doesn't. Or it's ok at 12v

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    We do the extra work so others don't have to. Yes it's easy to buy a pwm online but it does not come with any plug harnesses

  • @jermainephillips5179

    @jermainephillips5179

    8 ай бұрын

    5 v.i used the usb port from my stereo. Cut the other cable end off.its on youtube

  • @niuvarduque242
    @niuvarduque24210 ай бұрын

    I tried to do what you did but on a Honda accord 1998 on a 4 pin alternator and it didn’t work. Do I Have to connect the computer wires to the alternator connector or I have to disconnect the computer wires from the alternator connector? How can I connect the wires?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    10 ай бұрын

    Honda not pcm, it's eld. Totally different

  • @makskoma
    @makskoma Жыл бұрын

    In car with pcm controlled alternator only 1 problem: Its all very good,you did bypass the pcm so the light wont appear in dash,you run 15v,but what happens when you fully charged your lto or battety???It keeps throw charging to the battery cos there is no pcm telling not to charge,in that case your alt always charging,always under pressure and the battery too

  • @lepedoxx

    @lepedoxx

    10 ай бұрын

    Only 15.5 isn’t full charge for most lithium 😅

  • @ryantallent1883
    @ryantallent188311 ай бұрын

    I have a 2007 Chevy avalanche ran 12v ground and connected to regulator I cannot control to get less or more just says at 13 no matter what I set it to? Any thoughts?😊

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    11 ай бұрын

    What percent and hz. 13 .9 is minimum setpoint. Remove any sensors on negative cables as well

  • @davidsaucedo4795
    @davidsaucedo47957 ай бұрын

    What is the difference in your harness from just tapping into the factory harness

  • @100pyatt

    @100pyatt

    6 ай бұрын

    Adjustment

  • @mistabigshow
    @mistabigshow11 ай бұрын

    I have this in my 08 escalade. 160amp alternator and 2 batteries. Mines dont keep steady. Its all over the place when the music is turned up. Sometimes it drops to 11.0volts. I have it set but it dont seem to keep the voltage up. Any ideas?

  • @pookeyjames8241

    @pookeyjames8241

    7 ай бұрын

    Sounds like your amp is trying to pull more power than your alt and batteries can keep up with. Probably need a high output alternator 160a isn't nearly enough for some modern setups. This regulates voltage it doesn't create it.

  • @pookeyjames8241

    @pookeyjames8241

    7 ай бұрын

    Also have this problem with my 2010 Silverado with a 145a dr37. Going to upgrade to a 240a pure power.

  • @justindeforrest6338
    @justindeforrest63382 жыл бұрын

    I need one, I have an autotech 320 for my tahoe but I cant find this on your website

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    autotechengineeringusa.com/Pulleys,_Regulators_(Int/Ext)_Knobs,_Plug_Adapters

  • @JamieCarAudioChannel
    @JamieCarAudioChannel2 жыл бұрын

    you have a website where we can buy this I have a 2003 Gran Marquis with car audio system want to charge higher then the 14 I am right now

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @ricardojuarez291
    @ricardojuarez2912 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2000 dodge ram diesel and I need an external voltage regulator similar as this one, do you guys have it??? Send me the link to go and buy it right away.. thanks and Merry Christmas

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @ninja-vanish8086
    @ninja-vanish80862 жыл бұрын

    Does the pwm signal wire connect to the L terminal on the alt?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Now

  • @sherrod833
    @sherrod8332 жыл бұрын

    Will this do multiple alternators?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, 2

  • @anubisprince36
    @anubisprince362 жыл бұрын

    Can I use this on my js 270a on my 2014 equinox?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    If it's a 2 pin pcm controlled regulator then yes

  • @chevypowerish
    @chevypowerish9 ай бұрын

    Did this product never make it to market because it's not on your website?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    9 ай бұрын

    autotechengineeringusa.com/Adapters,_Connectors,_Harness,_Pulleys,_Regulators

  • @davidrobertson9522
    @davidrobertson9522 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2018 chevy silverado lt how do I get the harness I have a pcm monitor already

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    Email, info@autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @3fingerclay439
    @3fingerclay439 Жыл бұрын

    Does it work with the Mazda Pd alternators?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    No

  • @leftyrodriguez6633
    @leftyrodriguez66332 жыл бұрын

    Hi I have I Toyota Corolla 2003 n I whant to add that I haved

  • @johnysmashalot411
    @johnysmashalot4113 жыл бұрын

    Where can i order this? I seen it on custom electric service?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    3 жыл бұрын

    www.apacatapult.com/autotech/product_desc/17864

  • @ogunkiyode5848

    @ogunkiyode5848

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa I need 1

  • @KuWizZ
    @KuWizZ9 ай бұрын

    I need voltage booster for Toyota Camry hybrid 2023. I need 15 or above to run my XS Power Yinlong bank 80ah. Can anyone help me please? Struggling since 5 months.

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    9 ай бұрын

    Do you have alternator?

  • @basshead402lincoln
    @basshead402lincoln Жыл бұрын

    Still have some questions how can I get in contact with y'all

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    800-345-4952

  • @howardsmith876
    @howardsmith8763 жыл бұрын

    Just hooked one of these up in a 08 Malibu worked great until I cut car off. Cut car back on and the battery light is on and alternator isn’t charging. If I let car sit for about 30 minutes then it works again....any ideas?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Loose wiring

  • @howardsmith876

    @howardsmith876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa checked all connections again today and everything is tight....charged fine this morning and then this afternoon would not charge. Let car sit for about a hour and cranked it again and it charged fine again. Works when car is cold and if car has been run for a while and it’s cut off and re cranked it will not charge until it cools down

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@howardsmith876 where is box located?

  • @howardsmith876

    @howardsmith876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa inside car on dash....

  • @trillneal

    @trillneal

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have the same issue on 2016 GMC Yukon. Mine will charge to 15.5 but if turn the car off and restart it the battery light is on and the alternator won’t start charging until my voltage is down under 14v then it kicks on.

  • @Jim-airgood
    @Jim-airgood3 жыл бұрын

    Ok I have the controller hooked up along with the alternator and it stays at around13.7 will not go any tiger than that

  • @lylegoodluck

    @lylegoodluck

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are u using stock alternator?

  • @Jim-airgood

    @Jim-airgood

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lylegoodluck no at that point I had an auto tech 320amp alternator

  • @greenvillecarmax79
    @greenvillecarmax793 жыл бұрын

    Where do you purchase this

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    3 жыл бұрын

    autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @ninja-vanish8086
    @ninja-vanish80862 жыл бұрын

    How do we know what frequency to use?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    We provide that info

  • @abunch421

    @abunch421

    3 ай бұрын

    128hz Information should be free 😊

  • @matt6951
    @matt6951 Жыл бұрын

    Work on a Chevy 2013 2500 diesel?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes it does

  • @matt6951

    @matt6951

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa what’s the link?

  • @blackerlude
    @blackerlude3 жыл бұрын

    I got this controller and my battery light just cane on after about 2 months of it working flawlessly still charging at 14.9 What am I missing I checked all the connectors

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make sure wire connections are solid.

  • @blackerlude

    @blackerlude

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea checked everything with a multi meter and I can’t figure it out

  • @clintonjk23

    @clintonjk23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackerlude did you ever figure it out?

  • @817Teamsters

    @817Teamsters

    3 жыл бұрын

    Atleast yours is charging at 14.9, I can't get mine to stay over 13.8. Only time it goes to where I set it for, is when I Rev the gas! I've changed the belt, and I have great grounds, fucking thing won't keep at volts set to! I'm fucking pissed off beyond belief right now! And the guys on vacation

  • @howardsmith876

    @howardsmith876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@817Teamsters I’ve been dealing with the same thing for over a month now....damn thing works when it wants to ....it works when car is cold if I drive it to the store and cut it off it will not work when I go to crank car back up and alternator doesn’t charge at all until I engine cools down...And can’t get nobody to answer my questions on why it’s doing that

  • @marcomartinez9181
    @marcomartinez91812 жыл бұрын

    I have a 3pin alternator have a video on that ?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's uses our vcm-6003

  • @pork.t.v9462
    @pork.t.v9462 Жыл бұрын

    Is this for the brand x alternators ?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    you can use on the stock alternators with a pcm 2 pin as well.

  • @pork.t.v9462

    @pork.t.v9462

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa thanks bro I just got one with no instructions at all I’m trying to wire it so the wire that goes to the alternator harness plugs in the pwm + on the knob?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pork.t.v9462 onlybon gm pcm style it does

  • @luisgallardo5234

    @luisgallardo5234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa will it work with a mechman 370 2pin gm alternator ?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luisgallardo5234 yes

  • @332ARA
    @332ARA2 жыл бұрын

    Why won't this with a 4 pin? Won't the L and F terminals work the same?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    We sell a controller for thr 4 pin.

  • @332ARA

    @332ARA

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa Is it true a 4 pin alternator is analog and not PWM?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    2 pin is pcm controlled, 4pin is not

  • @Alex0992

    @Alex0992

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa what about a 4 pin that only has 2 wires?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Alex0992 has to have a sense pin

  • @Marcus_1215
    @Marcus_1215 Жыл бұрын

    I have a js 320 alternator and it is pcm controlled how can I bypass it

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    Swap out the regulator or send it to us and we can do for you

  • @jmg5155
    @jmg51552 жыл бұрын

    Would this work on my 2008 escalade

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it will if it's a 2pin regulator

  • @jmg5155

    @jmg5155

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa if I leave it at 14.8 - 15v constantly would it damage my trucks computer or electronics

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jmg5155 not at all. Just make sure you have good battery and stay at 14,8 for agms

  • @ramhernandez5351
    @ramhernandez53512 жыл бұрын

    How can I get this voltage regulator?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    on our website, autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @AJOSUE
    @AJOSUE2 жыл бұрын

    where do I order this?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @stephenjackson3233
    @stephenjackson323310 ай бұрын

    What GM is this for?

  • @stephenjackson3233

    @stephenjackson3233

    10 ай бұрын

    I thought GM was 120?

  • @timothyholguin1192
    @timothyholguin1192 Жыл бұрын

    What about ford do they wire up the same

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    Similar, we have a hack to turn off dash light as well

  • @timothyholguin1192

    @timothyholguin1192

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa only reason i ask i bought one from brandx and the alt plug they sent me has one 1 wire and and it looks like another wire was riped out

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothyholguin1192 the ripped out the option to turn light off

  • @timothyholguin1192

    @timothyholguin1192

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa so with that one wire from the pwm terminal to the alt plug should work just fine but ill have a battery light

  • @aaronlawrence4218
    @aaronlawrence4218 Жыл бұрын

    😅i never installed anything like this before first time but i do have my wits about me any info w is greatly appreciated

  • @joecockheran7682
    @joecockheran7682 Жыл бұрын

    Where could I get one

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @MrKlink951
    @MrKlink9512 жыл бұрын

    Where can I order your device

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @southern_merican
    @southern_merican2 жыл бұрын

    Man you couldn't have waited 30 minutes till he was done hammering?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    apologies, we are a working facility and do alot of fabricating.

  • @davidaranda9383

    @davidaranda9383

    2 жыл бұрын

    No shit. Sounds like he's just bring a ass. Doing it on purpose. Wow... That's the life of a fabricator!!

  • @AdrienStafford-tf2zb
    @AdrienStafford-tf2zb2 ай бұрын

    Where’s the link to the damn thing?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 ай бұрын

    autotechengineeringusa.com/product_desc/17864

  • @AdrienStafford-tf2zb

    @AdrienStafford-tf2zb

    2 ай бұрын

    I bought mine with the harness and the regulator comes on when in acc and turns off when I start the truck. I used a the add a fuse from AutoZone for power. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you.

  • @deeznuttz7980
    @deeznuttz7980 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Ford tho

  • @trucker8084
    @trucker80842 ай бұрын

    The instructions don't tell you any of this it doesn't tell you which wire to tap into

  • @worstcrewchiefever6646
    @worstcrewchiefever66462 жыл бұрын

    14.99 on amazon shipped. generic pwm controller…

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does not include plug harness , instructions, specs etc. Not that simple but good luck

  • @myrik-rm3tq
    @myrik-rm3tq3 жыл бұрын

    Сделайте русские субтитры .Хочу понять аак это работает

  • @SteveSmith-nh6ms
    @SteveSmith-nh6ms Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to have a more annoying background noise?

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    We will add some chainsaw noise

  • @ogunkiyode5848
    @ogunkiyode58482 жыл бұрын

    I need 1

  • @dimaskafa2601
    @dimaskafa2601 Жыл бұрын

    128 hz??

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    On most

  • @dimaskafa2601

    @dimaskafa2601

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa Thank you for replying to my comment.🙏 I haven't had success on Hilux Revo toyota Any other ideas sir?

  • @dimaskafa2601

    @dimaskafa2601

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa i use pwm generator module zk-pp1k

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dimaskafa2601 email us photo of alternator, info@autotechengineeringusa.com

  • @dimaskafa2601

    @dimaskafa2601

    Жыл бұрын

    @@autotechengineeringusa Ok sir tomorrow I will send the photo 🙏 It's midnight here (Indonesian)

  • @LeekAudio
    @LeekAudio Жыл бұрын

    I had one and it stopped working in 2 months trash

  • @autotechengineeringusa

    @autotechengineeringusa

    Жыл бұрын

    sorry to hear. we would have swapped it for you. alot of people been running for years, but such as electronics, things do happen

  • @myhoe
    @myhoe2 ай бұрын

    How do you reset one? Mine has stopped working, it still lights up and the knob still changes the %'s but the volts don't change when I meter it.