A great piece of Glasgow history and some great styles, thanks for adding this.

Thanks millbury55, there's a 2nd part posted as well, glad you have enjoyed watching this little piece of local history.

Brilliant documentary...thanks for posting

@chazmork8265

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks TheDG Sexperience, there is a part 2 uploaded with Frankie Vaughans involvement in the Easterhouse Project, enjoy!!

@TheDGSexperience

10 жыл бұрын

I'll have a look later!! Ta..

Even in the '60s slumlands of Glasgow, kids were cleverer and cannier than they are today.

@richardkelbie5362

3 жыл бұрын

They werent stuck in houses

I remember my pal took me to see his old pals in Possilpark. They were a great bunch of young men. They accepted me a stranger, saying any pal of Alex's was a pal of theirs. I told them I was getting a bit of hassle by a group in my village. The gang walked Alex and I back to Queen st station. One guy wearing a Crombie jumped on the train beside me, he opened up his Crombie to reveal an array of weapons, he said when I have finished with Bs you won't get any more hassle.I persuaded the guy that I could sort things myself. I didn't want him getting into bother over me.I got my eyes opened that day and often wonder how they all got on in life.

Loved seeing and hearing the Effect,,,absolutely brilliant. ,, I was in love with Jimmy Ingles....

I joined the navy in 1960 s and i only went back to Glasgow only on my leave and i seen the gang slogans spray painted all over and decided to migrate to Oz in 1967 when i left the navy ,was the best move i ever made , i went back 4/5 times only for a holiday but things seemed to get even worse looking now at these videos , i find pathetic , the mentality of these youths is unbelievable, but then society now ,everywhere has gone mad , i am 70 now and feel civilization will be lucky to last 100 yrs if its lucky

@chazmork8265

9 жыл бұрын

Your destiny was Oz, the whole world has changed forever as we know from the constant barrage of negative media available dwelling on ''appeasement'' to someone ''offended'' enjoy the rest of your days in the sunshine Dave, you've earned your rest, I myself have just been a grand da for the 2nd time, got a beautiful 7 pound 10 ounce grand daughter, and I can only hope the time she is grown up, the world is a far better place than what we are seeing around us today, all the very best to you, god bless

@lightofgoku

9 жыл бұрын

you cant blame the children of children my friend , its the parents in scotland that have a lot to answer for, i have known violence all my life in scotland it was made out to me as a child that if i didnt fight and win i was nothing , it has instilled a mentality i have fought long and hard within myself to change

@sharonpayne9740

7 жыл бұрын

poverty.

@williamreid8067

7 жыл бұрын

IoM tty 1957

Read "Autobiography of a Murderer" by Hugh Collins. Joe Devlin plays a big part in the book,great read.He ended up Stabbed up by someone who was hiding in a wardrobe,who jumped out and murdered him.It's all in the book.

@happybee7725

Жыл бұрын

I don’t need to read the book now.

5:47 poor lad was givin a right flackin for sure

Charles Murphy, you referred to these guys as Mods. How did you work that one out?

@frasercheyne8332

3 жыл бұрын

The three button suits, smart look, the style/cut of the clothes and shoes and hair. The fact it was the youth of the sixties too. Mods were around from early sixties right to now with a big 'revival' late seventies to 80's then another with the likes of oasis but they're a btmritish sub culture of music, style, hair etc not just a scooter, I've been a mod for 35 years and I've never owned a scooter ever for example. Never sat on one even lol

Does anyone have the original release date and production company for this?

@rodger5965

5 жыл бұрын

its says at the very beginning of the film, stupid.

Doesn't matter what decade, just sad

Class style! mod style suits and hair cut. A lot classier than today's "neds"

the cop being interviewd looks like 60s killer bible john, lol perfect cover

@MsJimbo1960

10 жыл бұрын

I thought that as well,and there are some people that say bible john was a jelly whopper!!

@torquemada3273

4 жыл бұрын

@@MsJimbo1960 FFS...my instant thought...dead ringer m8...Slainte

@rosswhitehill4433

2 жыл бұрын

Bible john is Peter Tobin

@chazmork8265

11 күн бұрын

Said that over 19 years ago , head of "The Untouchables" my school pal in LochendTam McDonald his dad's sister Jemima was one of "Bible John's " poor young lassie victim, stuffed up a lum that's how I knew there was more than one faceless coward no way could one guy done that heinous crime ☯️🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🐕🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🌞

lol was a nice punch @ 5.34 right into front of the copz tae

welcome to the concrete Jungle.

I ran about with the Cumbie in Glasgow in the Sixties and seventies and we fought with anybody and had a lot of runins with the Shamrock, especially in the City Centre, changed Days, thank God. 😎

I wonder where that Dev lin lad is now did he settle down did he emigrate or did trouble follow him around u hope he had a good life if possible ?

@Mickyboi1

Ай бұрын

As far as I know he is still alive and stays in Royston although is very old, he ended up leading a generally quiet life after he became an outcast by grassing up his pal Hugh Collins for murder in the 70s. Joe still has loads of family with the same surname in Royston/Blackhill

Hmmmmm that sargent talking about the Untouchables just noticed his resemblance to "Bible John " is uncanny to the drawing released my ma knew one of his victims Jemima MacDonald , my ma knew everyone , so strange his haircut watched a BBC Scotland programme a few months ago feel lost for words , just now strange heebie jeebies as we say in Glasgow 🥺

Thanks milbury55, that's exactly what it is, local history, all the best.

0:48 his mannerisms are that of Marlon Brando, in 'On The Waterfront'. Quite charismatic, for such a young fella.

I knew a "peacekeeper", a Georgian called Mark Austerer who had several steel plates in his skull, a steel bridge in his jaw, most of the bone structure in his nose gone and had more stitching than a badly made suit, tough as old boots and then some and he was picked because he had grown up in the very worst of Soviet Georgia and Glasgow seemed like a change up in his fortunes I reckon hehehe

the untouchables as they called there selfs were a bunch of thugs they pulled me off the street in hope street in the ninteen sixtys stood on my head kicked out one of my teeth ripped my jacket of my back smashed my glasses even the sherrif at the glasgow sherrif court went and called me back into the court room and said mr donnelly if you want you can take out a claim for damages[but i never bothered] because i would have got more hassel but forty years later they decided to wreck , my life looking for the so called crown jewels when they ripped my house to bits [whatch the documetary on u tube under this [THE PRINCESS HER MOTHER AND THE FALL GUY [ ORIGINAL]

The guy in the black suit looks like Jimmy Boyle. Boyle's book was the best I read he was only in his twenties when he got life and then got another 26 years ,he was a very dangerous man but he did genuinely rehabilitate after his move to the Special Unit in Bar L

Mad to see Ferguson before Taggart and Man utd

is the same gang hugh Collins was in

He said " ah come fae the Bundy" that's Pollock, the Bundy no longer exist in Pollock, there is a Bundy in Clydebank still… They fight The Drum mob.

''yummy, yummy,yummy we're the sooside Cumbie, an we feel like chibbin. the toon!!'' that cracks me up, only a Glesga punter could take a 1910 Fruitgum & Co song re write it and make it their own🤣🤣🤣my personal favourite was Scott McKenzies ''San Francisco'' Glesga style version ''if your going to ''Sam Plank's Disco''.....'' Glesga Hippys eh???😜😜

LOL. 5:50 to 5:55 - now that's proper policing; the kid chucks a punch the coppers take him out of site and give him a good hiding. That's what we need more of today!

What does Joe say from 1:45 to 1:52?

@grahamblack1961

6 жыл бұрын

Some o' they boys did a bit o' grassin' (some of the boys became police informants), four o' them's daein' time (four of them are in prison), we don't like that a' ta' (we don't like that at all), that's how we go doon a' the time to see the score with them (that's why we regularly go out looking for them, so we can settle the score i.e. take revenge).

Hi I am very interested about this guy is he still alive,they guy was given interview starting from beginning The Shamrock gang leader .As i found out he is Joe The Bear Devlin,and I can't find anything on Google about him, I would like to know is he still alive and or he continued all life being criminal.if someone knows any info please reply.

@rodger5965

5 жыл бұрын

See my post a few posts above this post. He was not Joe The Bear Devlin… The Bear, was another guy… But yes he was Joe Devlin… Joe was murdered about 15 years after this interview. Another guy caught him shagging his bird and beat him to death with a crow bar… Joe was a full time gang member and lived the gang / criminal life till he died… Joe was one of the leaders of The Shamrock but the real leader of The Shamrock at that time was Albert Faults.... Joe and the other leaders were wild and game but Albert was in a league of his own… Albert would literally have stabbed his own granny for a laugh.. RCS=Royston Catholic Shamrock….

The lad speaking on far left at 10:53 is the young Jimmy Boyle...

These guys were such a load of of cowards! If you want to fight why not go to a boxing club and fight sober!

@oak1739

3 жыл бұрын

Takes more balls to fight with axes and knives than it does to fight in a boxing ring with padded gloves.

@oak1739

3 жыл бұрын

​@Some Guy You couldn't be any further from the truth. I'd rather go head to head with Tyson than with some guy with a hatchet and nothing to lose. If you seriously think that a structured boxing match with rules and the ability to say "I'm done" takes more balls than going head to head with someone in a knife fight, you're delusional.

Y is Glasgow accent changed so much over the years

@scottishgold6595

10 жыл бұрын

I don't think it has changed that much. The deeper you go into the inner city the harder the accent is. Today, the neds and inner Glasgow gangs sound the same to me. When you get around the more posh type, such as trendies they sound more modern, their English is better and easier to understand.

@Asiseeit13

6 жыл бұрын

Drug use has given the Glasgow Ned a higher pitch to his accent, almost a nasal whine. The rest have had their accent softened by early exposure to soaps and media generally.

@bygoneera9521

6 жыл бұрын

Asiseeit13 shut up.

@oak1739

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunaluceat It's mostly slang. We don't speak gaelic.

@oak1739

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunaluceat bad joke

Hopefully someone may give you the answer to the question Callum Neill, good luck and hope someone watching may know grand da from the 60's

don't really know a lot due to my age 16. my dad was from partick in these days and apprently it was hard back then my grandad gentlman jim was very well known and would like to know more about him anyone know anything about him

@jiemurphy7337

3 жыл бұрын

What’s ur dads name

5:34 *thwack!* "fuck off ya eejit!" lol

Ah right Joe The Bear Devlin talking about how he's not a grass when in 1977 he grassed his mate Hugh Collins straight up for stabbing someone outside The Lunar Seven Bar and escaped jail when his mate got life

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What chance had any of them when Mr Cameron the guy in charge of the night club place, even he was absolutely blootered! Lol the guy couldn't string a proper sentence together and he's in charge of folk having a safe and happy night out in a city centre! Somebody get a hold of his story and let's look at who these folks were that were in charge. Same as the idiot polis and his tripe he's spouting, look at him! He's not got the necessary toy dolls when you hear him either. Any and I mean any glesga slightly hard man would make him empty his bladder with a look never mind a physical challenge lol just look at him

Anyone know what ever happened to Joe Devlin? Would like to know if he lived past 30..

@chazmork8265

3 жыл бұрын

yes I do he is still alive as with anyone today his age he is in a mobility scooter.

@adam1975100

5 ай бұрын

How do you know this for sure. Thanks for the upload.

There seems to be two Joe Devlins ,the bear and someone else . Who is the boy interviewed here ? I imagine he lived a short , violent life ?

Lol, but we have a sense of humour, remember this was filmed in the late 60's, times have changed.

Sounds as though some Glasgow woman dumped you big time, there's ugly woman everywhere, after all this video was made in the 60's times change. No matter where you go anywhere in this world women dump you, just in different languages, c'est la vie.

Well they say the best thing in Edinburgh is the road that leads you to Glasgow, pmsl!!!

They all immature and silly but defo as rough and tough as they claim to be, you did indeed risk life and limb going into any other gangs territory alone and if you were accompanied of course you were most likely looking for a fight lol. I was born from a large glasgow family in Glasgow and I know Glasgow on the whole as a friendly great city but if you want trouble you'll get it, by God you'll get it, Edinburgh is toddlers playing in a paddling pool by comparison. It's well said that you'll have more fun at a glesga stabbing than an Edinburgh wedding! Also, you just don't get a hard man from Edinburgh

@chazmork8265

3 жыл бұрын

its called being young, Joe Devlin is still around in a mobility scooter now an auld aquaintance of an uncle of mine, none of us can stop time,I love the Locarno footage always heard about it to see the footage while editing the footage, magic!!! only Glesga folk could take a bubble gum pop hit song from their era and make it theirs, love it!!

6:34 that screw looks like Bible John ..

@MsJimbo1960

8 жыл бұрын

His photo fit poster nob end ..

haha, 'look at the birds we've got, they're brilliant'...hahahaha...

Glasgow gets a worse press than it should, im from London and I know....

@chazmork8265

10 жыл бұрын

It will never change am afraid always show the negative rather than the positive, but hey that's life, there's people out there worse off than us.

@wetukman

10 жыл бұрын

So true and im happy in Glasgow how about that?

@chazmork8265

10 жыл бұрын

Cool Chris it's a very vibrant city, so yeah we have a few bams so does every city am afraid, glad your enjoying living here, all the very best!!!

@weeman8065

8 жыл бұрын

Doesn't get worse press, just shows the reality of Glasgow, obviously some areas are vibrant and some areas aren't, but I think it's best the press give an idea to tourists of the reality instead of letting them show up to Easter house, possil, castle milk etc thinking all Glasgow is going to be a colourful lovely place.

@1061andy

7 жыл бұрын

Charles Murphy .

who's in my gang my gang my we gang

Cant understand a word those scotts are saying ! “Ooo bloooo anda eue ya know? “Lol

Gangs in suites and ties?

Is Glasgow any worse than Manchester, Liverpool, South London, or Sheffield?

@ZooScott

10 жыл бұрын

Fraser Dorrian Aye for a long time too.

@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1

10 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the first three but its definitely worse than Sheffield. Sheffield is the safest big city in Britain. Im not saying it doesn't have tough spots- all cities do, but there is no way its comparable to Glasgow. Glasgow has proportionatly more murders per 100,000 people than London. I think it's improved a lot but it is still unquestionably a tough, violent city. So yes I would say it's worse. For decades 'Glasgow' itself was a byword for a tough place.

@bnns1219

6 жыл бұрын

Yes glasgow has double the murder rate of london and 170 gangs 10 more than london even thought its a lot smaller . Seems that the gangs and knifes are starting to calm down. But at the end of the day glasgow will never change as much as people want to move away and hide from the stereotype of knives and gangs its true all over scotland not just glasgow . The small town where i live near glasgow has 10000 people and 3 gangs in one small scheme. Depends where you go in glasgow go to the drum pollok easterhouse calton and you will see.

@enzomangono7239

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@adayatatime5215

5 жыл бұрын

It was far worse than them all

Joe "the bear" was known as Joe "the hare" to other shamrock members due to the speed with which he would leave when things kicked off. Pointed out Hugh Collins in court and made a statement against him which led to Collins' conviction. Still lives in Royston Road I believe but is treated as a pariah due to his role in Collins conviction.

Maybe he was in one of the gangs in this documentary,lol!!!

Glasgow is still miles Better i lived through those times we kids sure seen some fights back then i was born in Glasgow in 1966 getting old noo still miss the place

Aye, bring m in here pal lol

Wish there were sutitles, can't understand much to be honest!🤣

He looks like a young Ray Winstone

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It's not like this now. It's in colour for one.

Ah know ffs the documentary is made in the 60's and he was probably had a ''dry bath'' these guys ain't used to women talking back to them, lol!!!

Nicholas Westwood Kidd was busted a cop shot in the chest, and so was i in Sudan in 2005 at the age off during the civil war. i will upload a Picture of my dented chest to prove my point.

Very clever people wonder were they are now ?

Group disorder. He said it about ten times.

Well I'm from edinburgh but I am an eighth weegie because of my grandad. I've been to hospital but there's nowt they can do, I've just got to keep taking the pills and hope for the best. Lol.

@RayzrBlazer

2 жыл бұрын

You good g?

they developed in to meat wagon----not a mob to meet

Cumbie, Ya Bas.

Tongs Ya Bass!

Does anyone remember a gang called big fleet?? Glasgow

YBT

look they came to springburn n got wasted--------we joes a prk----collins was the guy

@rodger5965

5 жыл бұрын

The Shamrock rarely ran away, I dont know about now but back then they were game as fuck… Joe went ahead wi Shug… Maybe they got done in Springburn I bet they were outnumbered though… Shug murdered hingey fae the Peg…

lol fantastic

They're speaking English, yet I still need subtitles. What an accent...

@grimmerMD

10 жыл бұрын

***** Lol even when Scots try a translation and it's typed you can't understand what they're saying.

@SpookyElectric319

8 жыл бұрын

They are Glaswegian.

@frasercheyne8332

3 жыл бұрын

Yet we can all understand your accents in "igurlund" eh? Just as strong just as regional more ignorant and bloody arrogant though eh?

Until merapeaks ruined it

The untouchables ha ha ha

@10:46 Ma maw.

Possil Pigs Ya Bas 😊

He know he know ,can this fud really talk he know