Give us back our brutal Boks

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Keo & Zels catch up on the Bok win against Ireland - a perfect result, but imperfect performance.
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  • @brettfleiner4906
    @brettfleiner490624 күн бұрын

    They've played ONE game using some new tactics and these two are saying we should just give up and go back to what we've been doing the previous 6 years? Firstly, a lot of our players are going to be borderline too old for the next world cup, secondly we're already seeing teams like England adopting our old game plan, third WHY would we not want our team to expand their skillsets in the areas that we were previously lacking??? ONE game guys and we WON that game against the number 2 team, I think ya'll are tripping.

  • @robertjan002

    @robertjan002

    24 күн бұрын

    One game and you’re already in love.

  • @jasondossantos3076

    @jasondossantos3076

    24 күн бұрын

    I am normally on board 100% with what these guys have to say... But not too sure about this episode. The adaption is nice to see.

  • @sunlightliquid8420

    @sunlightliquid8420

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@robertjan002in love with what's to come. Trust in rassie

  • @garyburger6319

    @garyburger6319

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@robertjan002 yeah I don't blame him. The backs were much more exciting. We have some of the best backs in the world so let's use them to the full potential. Mega exciting because you can see what they are trying to do.

  • @JohnN-yu8kr

    @JohnN-yu8kr

    24 күн бұрын

    Do you want winning rugby or pretty rugby. Everyone else complains about the boks style because they can’t beat them so try to make them change the boks winning style.

  • @DirkJansen1982
    @DirkJansen198224 күн бұрын

    A suprising analysis...after 6 years and 2 world cup wins I 100% believe Doc Rassie has a plan, that brain is always analysing on a different level that we mear mortals cant appreciate.Take the win. It´s not reinventing the way Bok´s play, it´s innovating the way we play!

  • @user-lw2ng1jb1m
    @user-lw2ng1jb1m24 күн бұрын

    Guys guys guys.. all this means is that the Boks will have the OPTION of an attacking game. WC 2027 is in Australia - it's dry, it's running rugby, it's end to end. World Rugby is trying to negate scrum-dominated games.. Please give Rassie and co a chance. Also, we tried playing tight rugby against Ireland - and lost against them for 6 years. So.. even if we had to put Faf on rollerskates and Pieter Steph in a tutu, it bloody worked!

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    Ur a fruitcake, but hey, sense worx

  • @evanh8749

    @evanh8749

    24 күн бұрын

    Good point about conditions in Australia.

  • @mgeart63
    @mgeart6324 күн бұрын

    Not sure what you guys smoked before this episode...but I would check it, likely a bad batch. We need to develop our back-line attack phase and it will take some time.

  • @frasermilne7801

    @frasermilne7801

    24 күн бұрын

    Agree we need to evolve our attack, but not at the expense of ditching our proven strengths... forward dominance.

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@frasermilne7801exactly, these two are like banana republicans

  • @Camcolito

    @Camcolito

    24 күн бұрын

    @@frasermilne7801 Their whole point is you can't have a "brilliant at everything" style.

  • @harryshark5459

    @harryshark5459

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Camcolito All Blacks in the past can

  • @brettsweet1
    @brettsweet124 күн бұрын

    For the first time gents i respectfully disagree with you. Adapting our gameplan and the way we play is brilliant. Watching siya and psdt down the wing in full flight was exciting. Lets speed it up even more with Williams at 9 and Sacha at 10 for the next game.

  • @Torqradio
    @Torqradio24 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad neither of you two is in involved in the Springbok coaching setup.

  • @dumisaralane

    @dumisaralane

    24 күн бұрын

    Why? 😂

  • @AC-hu3xk

    @AC-hu3xk

    24 күн бұрын

    100 %

  • @vukilemadlala5931

    @vukilemadlala5931

    24 күн бұрын

    100% agree with you .

  • @W0nderer

    @W0nderer

    24 күн бұрын

    I listened to the Irish media and the NZ media and they were generally saying that they're terrified of what we could become. And here these guys are saying we're not playing traditional Bok rugby....

  • @robertjan002

    @robertjan002

    24 күн бұрын

    They’re not applying for the job.

  • @joshuapetersmit7155
    @joshuapetersmit715524 күн бұрын

    You cant win 3 world cups in a row without adapting, i think this is brilliant for the Springboks , the rest of the world is all talking about it. We've built up our fundamentals and now we're adding the spice , really exciting stuff. I understand there's going to be some growing pains with this new style but I'm sure when it clicks we're gonna be a force to be reckoned with.

  • @gregiliffe7120

    @gregiliffe7120

    24 күн бұрын

    Plus Pollard missed some easy penalties.

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    It's not a new style, it's simply adapting on the field to what's happening. U can't say, let's up and under alot b4 a game and think shuts going to work. All of you pretending U have a grip and handle on the game but can't actually state in any clarity which way the play will go minute by minute b4 it's hindsight. You rugby kenners and gurus all sound the same but know zip.

  • @joshuapetersmit7155

    @joshuapetersmit7155

    24 күн бұрын

    @@user-qe1tv1bu2f it’s not just adapting on field , are you ok????? Those are pre planned moves it doesn’t all just happen on instinct, it’s all about game plans , in the World Cup we passed way less , and these past 2 games way more with brown . It’s completely a new style of attack Even Rassie said so the rugby guru , I guess he knows zip. So I’m confused by your message 🤣🤣.

  • @Graham159871

    @Graham159871

    24 күн бұрын

    Don't agree, Boks need to develope this part of their game, when we don't get go forward and teams front up physically like England did in the Semi then we need to be able to switch things up and be confident they can play this way.

  • @elialvah

    @elialvah

    23 күн бұрын

    Adapting to what? The external factors that necessitate adaptation have to be existential, they can’t be imagined. Adaptation happens in response to external pressure. It can’t be preemptive. We can’t guess what we’re adapting to. We can’t even assume the very need to adapt. Adaptation has to be known and necessitated. For example the rest of the world doesn’t want to do 6-2 bench splits. They do it because they have to adapt to us. We are the external pressure that necessitates their adaptation. And because we are successful in what we do, they are forced to adapt to that which is most natural to us which gives us the advantage. We have to stick with success until success becomes failure or conditions (laws) are changed so much that it’s impossible to still achieve success. But the failure or negative impact of changed conditions has to materialize on the field. We can’t predetermine it, not least because the predetermination itself is blind. We’re obliged to try for a third successive World Cup employing the method that hasn’t yet been beaten. Let it be beaten. Then let it be beaten again for certainty. And then we will we need to adapt and we will know where and what we need to adapt to.

  • @jacques-gernorefrans9358
    @jacques-gernorefrans935824 күн бұрын

    Chill guys i predict they will temper this style down considerably working towards the world cup

  • @vkeen_observer
    @vkeen_observer24 күн бұрын

    Guys sorry I think you should trust the process... We want to be dominant and expansive

  • @W0nderer
    @W0nderer24 күн бұрын

    Keo and Zels what happened? Loving the potential of what we saw on Saturday. So much international media is lauding what they saw from the Boks. I loved seeing PSDT and Siya in the wider channels.

  • @bezvalleypestcontrol116
    @bezvalleypestcontrol11624 күн бұрын

    You two should remember we have both game plans, wait until they implement both in one game. They no longer predictable.

  • @AC-hu3xk

    @AC-hu3xk

    24 күн бұрын

    These two guys are losing it.

  • @Lesssvav
    @Lesssvav24 күн бұрын

    Kiwi/Samoan here - You guys are always hilarious 🤣

  • @KewKew-do3kq

    @KewKew-do3kq

    24 күн бұрын

    Bundee ?

  • @Lesssvav

    @Lesssvav

    24 күн бұрын

    @@KewKew-do3kq nah Bundee’s Irish 👀

  • @gakiemdavids4128
    @gakiemdavids412824 күн бұрын

    we not giving up our physicality .. we adding new variety to our arsenal

  • @user-sd5xe5dz2t
    @user-sd5xe5dz2t24 күн бұрын

    I'm just loving the new and expansive Bokke game plan... André Pollard should have been substituted much earlier... he had no idea where the H was... 😊🏉

  • @Skipper4369

    @Skipper4369

    24 күн бұрын

    I almost called you a fake saffa. Then I saw that ending 😂😂👍

  • @user-sd5xe5dz2t

    @user-sd5xe5dz2t

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Skipper4369 😃 i couldn't resist it... and I'm a Pollard admirer... he just seemed pre-occupied on Sat... will probably kick 5/5 in Durban 🏉

  • @herchellejacobs7458

    @herchellejacobs7458

    24 күн бұрын

    U cant blame Pollard bc that style doesn't shoot him just like that kicking style didn't shoot manie and he looked terrible at the world cup

  • @user-sd5xe5dz2t

    @user-sd5xe5dz2t

    24 күн бұрын

    @@herchellejacobs7458 they must just learn to suit straight... otherwise they must put on a shoot and become TV Rugby analysts

  • @bezvalleypestcontrol116
    @bezvalleypestcontrol11624 күн бұрын

    Keep up the entertainment because coaching is not your deal

  • @robbob7923
    @robbob792324 күн бұрын

    I encourage the boks adapting to the times. World rugby is trying to weaken the "brutal" playstyle we love so Rassie is thinking ahead. Love your opinions either way

  • @zikomadikizela121

    @zikomadikizela121

    24 күн бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @rowanwallace1985

    @rowanwallace1985

    24 күн бұрын

    100%

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    If we are so brutal, how come we win by so little every time and allow teams to come back big time. Stop thinking that those other blokes arnt just as brutal. I don't see them running off the field yelling mommy, the boks are brutal

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    Rassie is a giggling pansy in comparison to a more serious brain like the Irish coach. The difference is we have depth. Stop thinking like a Voortrekker in bloody ossewa.

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    @user-qe1tv1bu2f

    24 күн бұрын

    We r not much more brutal than any other team. We win by mere points. If we were brutally more overpowering we would simply dominate. We do not.

  • @UlrichHoltzhausen
    @UlrichHoltzhausen24 күн бұрын

    This Bok team has won in Australia. Moody's debut game.

  • @Nkanyiso131

    @Nkanyiso131

    24 күн бұрын

    I think they meant a series win - cause usually we play two games in Australia

  • @LionOnSea
    @LionOnSea24 күн бұрын

    I hear what you guys are saying ito the Boks gameplan. But let's have the season unfold and see where we are in October. I am actually quietly optimistic about where we're going. This attacking shape vs NZ is going to be interesting... Their defense isn't quite as narrow or quick. But I loved the sight of Kolisi charging down the wide channels. Hanekom, Dayimani, Roos, Elrigh and the like waiting in the wings. Libbok and Masuku will also cook in this gameplan. Will start Masuku/Grant vs Portugal and Manie & Reinach vs Aus/Arg potentially and Handre vs NZ.

  • @user-ve4vb4vp1h

    @user-ve4vb4vp1h

    24 күн бұрын

    Dayimani is just not class enough to be a bok

  • @LionOnSea

    @LionOnSea

    24 күн бұрын

    @@user-ve4vb4vp1h would like to see how he fares at Racing... Lots of potential in my view

  • @notenoughstones3873

    @notenoughstones3873

    24 күн бұрын

    I think we will probably play narrow vs NZ because that works the best against them to nullify their game. But difference now is that NZ will have a nightmare trying to prep against SA because they don’t know how we will play. That alone is already a big benefit.

  • @herchellejacobs7458

    @herchellejacobs7458

    24 күн бұрын

    Roos gotta get his chance bc kwagga look lost at number 8

  • @notenoughstones3873

    @notenoughstones3873

    24 күн бұрын

    @@herchellejacobs7458 Kwagga was terrible early on but grew into the game and put in a solid shift in the 2nd half. But he is best when he comes on fresh in the 2nd half. I like Roos but he is very green and wary how he will come up against a very good Irish pack. We are definitely missing Wiese.

  • @abdulwahaabdavids5162
    @abdulwahaabdavids516224 күн бұрын

    It's no longer a 15 man game Zels, It is a 23 man game. The game has evolved. Rassie has seen loop holes in the rules. Added to this, we have built squad depth over the years and other countries have not done that. They unfortunately have not been as forward thinking as the springbok coaches.

  • @zikomadikizela121
    @zikomadikizela12124 күн бұрын

    I can understand Zels concern but i think Rassie knows world rugby will change scrum rules as we are very dominant on the area. So to play fluid rugby will be the only option. Look we already play fency rugby at school and club level so i think its gona work. Great show as usual guys.

  • @iuroaoj

    @iuroaoj

    24 күн бұрын

    It’s just not our style of rugby and it also means that there is no longer a clash of styles, it becomes one dimensional and it’s not a style that were likely to win with the current players

  • @CK007youtube
    @CK007youtube24 күн бұрын

    The reason is to maintain our power, aggressive, and set piece/ structured game with more attacking variables/ expansion. Which, if successful with more experience and repetition, will create a more complete team. I do not think the goal is either or, the goal is to take the nature of the boks to the next level. How the gents can argue that it's impossible to evolve your game towards being complete in all facets is beyond me.

  • @spencercourtis9371

    @spencercourtis9371

    24 күн бұрын

    ...the gents are fearful and old school in their thinking

  • @bevansmith3210
    @bevansmith321024 күн бұрын

    whats the problem boys? Pollard also missed 9 points so it could have been 36-20. Well done Boks, going in the right direction.

  • @davidwalker2402

    @davidwalker2402

    24 күн бұрын

    There is nothing as ignorant as a bok fan, it’s easier to like a fanny rash…😂😂😂

  • @user-kk4lw4mr6i

    @user-kk4lw4mr6i

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@davidwalker2402seems like your trying to say we should only play a certain way now, that sounds more like ignorance to me, rather than a bok fan who is dismayed the podcasters didnt agree with his view point of fast attacking rugby only.

  • @conallgeneral8136

    @conallgeneral8136

    24 күн бұрын

    Libbok could have missed those kicks as well ! And added a different creative dimension!😂😂

  • @vukilemadlala5931

    @vukilemadlala5931

    24 күн бұрын

    Yeah I fully agree with you. I think the boys are also showing versitilit.

  • @dairet1945

    @dairet1945

    24 күн бұрын

    Yeah and if Pollard was playing in the RWC match SaAwould have won, wait that doesnt really work now. You cant have it every way I suppose.

  • @okkertgreyvenstein5765
    @okkertgreyvenstein576524 күн бұрын

    OK the world is already worried if we going to play expansive rugby, especially Sir John Kirwan, if we can get the cohesion right, with forwards dominating up front , great defense and attacking backline, no one will match the boks. Look how well the bulls did in the urc, yes fell short in the final, because we didnt play how we rocked the urc the whole season with running the ball. Do you two blokes sit in your comfort zone and play stamp kar rugby, you were all so happy to hear Tony joins boks as attack coach, no you singing a different tune, Im with Rassie, i trust Rassie, we will win another world cup. Rassie is in your head in your head.

  • @connoroflaherty
    @connoroflaherty24 күн бұрын

    We will be able to play any way we want 💪🏽

  • @chrismouton1985
    @chrismouton198524 күн бұрын

    I couldn't even make it to 10min with these cackling fools. The rest of the world is trembling for what the Boks can become once we play more attacking rugby and yet these buffoons can't see the massive potential. I don't know about you, but seeing King Kolisi put down Henshaw was one of the highlights of the game. The same King Kolisi put KLA away for that try with a similar attacking shape. It's a good thing these guys aren't coaching the Boks.

  • @hannesbornman1045
    @hannesbornman104524 күн бұрын

    You two seem to have completely missed Andrew Porters illegal pulling down the scrum and pre-engaging the entire first half. The ref never caught on. Steenekamp finally shut it down at the end.

  • @jonathanredman2153
    @jonathanredman215324 күн бұрын

    I had the same feeling after this win, if we dont win in durban this win means nothing to be honest

  • @bernardswart2019
    @bernardswart201924 күн бұрын

    This team won in Sydney 2022, they did win in Aus...

  • @heynw1
    @heynw124 күн бұрын

    I remember Rassie said in Chasing the Sun that they wanted to add another layer to their game but they got stopped by the COVID catastrophy. I think that is what they are working on.

  • @duncanwcraig9668
    @duncanwcraig966823 күн бұрын

    kiwi here. Imagine being able to have Lukhanyo Am on the bench. Kriel is on fire. And having Libbonk and Williamse on standby. And Moodie. I think the Boks actually have the best backline in the world at the moment.

  • @CptRumcan
    @CptRumcan24 күн бұрын

    Keo and zels not trusting rassie anymore 😮

  • @evanh8749
    @evanh874924 күн бұрын

    It's always concerning when you see unexpected change... But so long as the core components and foundation of the team remain, think we are in safe hands. We have a changing of the guard expected to happen over the next two years for key positions, so with new players coming in things have to change. All our new upcoming flyhalfs are more dynamic. We need to lock in new depth at 15, Le Roux will not last for ever. Think this style really surprised Ireland, and that might be a big part of this. In the last WC Rassie had 4:4, 5:3, 6:2 and a 7:1 split to confuse oppositions. With some new playing styles they will increase the confusion. Rassie has two years to try new things. Keep what works, and then prepare solely for the WC.

  • @rockandmeatroll
    @rockandmeatroll24 күн бұрын

    As an Irish fan, have to say this show was very energetic and enjoyable. Should be a very good next match, don't know who is going to win 😂

  • @sufsak
    @sufsak24 күн бұрын

    It was a day on earth 2. Maybe we are in an alternate universe. AB's playing like Springboks against England and Springboks playing like AB's against Ireland.

  • @cecildennis-o9l

    @cecildennis-o9l

    24 күн бұрын

    Spot on

  • @lawhollander08
    @lawhollander0824 күн бұрын

    This has got to be the first time that I’ve disagreed with Keo and Zels. Am usually onboard with their train of thought, however, their criticism of the Boks attacking endeavors kind of feels like the Boks are buggered if they do and buggered if they don’t.

  • @zeninyazema7822
    @zeninyazema782224 күн бұрын

    Faf played coast to coast at the lions... I also doubt that they kick a lot in Japan. I think we have decided that we are one trick pony and want to remain that way. I think South Africa has more depth and skill to show and Rassie is trying to mine it. This reminds me of the world cup. Where only Rassie knew what he was doing. I suspect that in Durban they will revert back to world cup rugby.

  • @nickbacon5314

    @nickbacon5314

    24 күн бұрын

    Agreed I think this was designed as a curve ball for Ireland now that we can’t loose the series we will revert back to the old strategy

  • @aphiwekunene7058
    @aphiwekunene705824 күн бұрын

    Ja oues are still dronk from the weekend

  • @SirTyron
    @SirTyron24 күн бұрын

    Reading through the comments here I get the feeling that these two have missed the mark. In simplicity, you cannot undo our inherent strengths, we'll always be able to run over you. We have other elements of the game that will always available to be implemented where necessary. However, playing a whole new style against the number two team in the world and still never losing control of the outcome speaks volumes for the measure of progress this reflects. When we can add a new dimension to our game, the opposition will never know who they're on the field against till we open up. I would say rightly so, the global contemporaries of Rassie and co are very concerned as to what the future of Springbok rugby bodes for the rest of the world. Yes they're making rule changes because of us, and so we are pre-imminently moulding our game to mitigate those changes and remain the dominant force the rugby world hates to love. I gotta give to Rassie and crew, outstanding work!

  • @LeMerch

    @LeMerch

    24 күн бұрын

    Ireland handed SA 14 free points off 2 unusual mistakes that never happen. This is what people in SA are not seeing. Without those 2 gifted tries, the score was 13 - 20 to Ireland. As a neutral, I think SA fans seem to be really underestimating Ireland heading into this second test.

  • @MrCarlsanders
    @MrCarlsanders24 күн бұрын

    Kiwis are impressed looking at that Bok backline...Been waiting to see the backs unleashed for decades...you won first time...keep going, keep getting better.

  • @PMGflavour

    @PMGflavour

    24 күн бұрын

    As Safa couldn't agree with you more...

  • @HeeniKeke

    @HeeniKeke

    23 күн бұрын

    Kiwis respect ALL opponents

  • @christiaansmit1380
    @christiaansmit138024 күн бұрын

    Would have liked to see Sacha do more time in that game.

  • @elialvah
    @elialvah23 күн бұрын

    Relax guys Rassie is confusing the enemy. The Boks will be the Boks when it’s time to win big things.

  • @MOTIVATIONENFORCER
    @MOTIVATIONENFORCER24 күн бұрын

    175 passes is a lot better to watch than 200 tackles, its a lot less energy sapping too. Its great to watch, its what we want to see! Kurt Lee is what we want to see, not mauling all the time.

  • @frik422
    @frik42224 күн бұрын

    Let the Boks have n little bit of fun with this Rugby League stile play .Isn't that wat WR wants with all the law changes. They will get it together, the team will change going to 2027 and we will loose games ,so long as Rassie gets us that hattrick in 2027 I don't care how they play. Spice it up. .You have to Agree that it makes it difficult for opponents to plan and pick players against the Boks.

  • @Forest9528
    @Forest952824 күн бұрын

    Bro is complaining about giving the already best defensive and physical team in the world an all black level attack If they pull that off the boks would be unstoppable

  • @Lihle22
    @Lihle2219 күн бұрын

    Just came back to the video to say you guys definitely called it!!!!The are out of their depth with this new style!!!

  • @markisaacs5277
    @markisaacs527724 күн бұрын

    Innovation.....and the Springboks is doing it

  • @martmeister
    @martmeister24 күн бұрын

    This opinion piece came out of nowhere. I have never been more excited to them play like this and for other teams to neither know who we playing, but what style we playing. They will never be able to properly prepare to play against the boks. it's exciting times for me. It's time for us to unlock more potential.

  • @warrenvaughan6941
    @warrenvaughan694123 күн бұрын

    Guys! Really? Rassie is building on our traditional strengths and evolving the boks. Watching that game I felt we saw glimpses of an exciting Springbok future.

  • @johndickie5069
    @johndickie506924 күн бұрын

    Guys absolutely love Youse but serious kak prat here... The Springboks need to evolve cause trust me many laws will change before the next world cup ... Rassie is a genius thinking ahead ..

  • @SamWashkansky
    @SamWashkansky24 күн бұрын

    Personally, I'm very excited with what's happening. I think it would be foolishly to think the Bokke will abandon what is in their DNA. What they're doing is evolving their game, and adding another layer to our game. SA will still apply the 'Slow poison' through our pack and line out and use the extra layer to finish. Having the ability to play a more expansive game will also keep the opposition guessing what we'll bring to the game. Give them time, I'm sure the bokke will develop a game model which makes the most of our big pack and excellent set pieces and rucking and mauling, but also maximizes the skillset we have to unlock our back line.

  • @ryandeetlefs1578
    @ryandeetlefs157824 күн бұрын

    Wow I didn't expect this reaction to the Springboks adding a new dimension whilst the rest of world is terrified at the prospect. With our dominance with the forwards to get across the gain line and giving momentum for our backline to utilize their incredible skills on attack we can become unstoppable. Our last 2 world cup wins were certainly not dominant let's be real. Give it time.

  • @notenoughstones3873
    @notenoughstones387324 күн бұрын

    They are not reinventing the game we play. They are adding more weapons to the attack. We obviously went full balls with phase play in this game but I think we will get to a point where we will be able to play different game plans vs different teams or different conditions and can even shift between styles in game too. But to get there, we need to get comfortable playing with more dynamism on attack. Once we get to the point where we can play various styles, it would be a nightmare for opposition coaches to try analyse and prep. This is what made that NZ team from 2011-2015 so good. They were able to attack out wide and decimate teams but could also play tight and direct to win games too.

  • @notenoughstones3873

    @notenoughstones3873

    24 күн бұрын

    Also we created a lot of opportunities and line breaks with our new attack but weren’t clinical enough to finish and that just takes more time to get right. Once it does click, along with our strong pack, set piece and defence, we will be very hard to beat

  • @Capie
    @Capie23 күн бұрын

    I did some basic maths Loftus to Kings Park = 622km* scrum going backwards at 8m/5secs (96m/ min and 5.7km/h) So, 109hrs (4.5 days). If we had carried on scrumming we'd have them safely in Durban by Thursday morning (*if they take the toll road)

  • @jeremymaarman2949
    @jeremymaarman294924 күн бұрын

    I fully agree that for that Game Plan they need Grant Williams and Libbok.

  • @dillonsass6609
    @dillonsass660924 күн бұрын

    Rassie is in everyone's head 😂

  • @AC-hu3xk

    @AC-hu3xk

    24 күн бұрын

    Ya😂❤

  • @arceyes

    @arceyes

    24 күн бұрын

    Rent free 😂

  • @pscot9620

    @pscot9620

    23 күн бұрын

    Rassie looks like the Ork commander from lord of the rings

  • @Ashton_Pillay
    @Ashton_Pillay24 күн бұрын

    Dynasties fall due to overconfidence and a combination of the competition catching on and catching up. The Boks dont require a revolution, but certainly, an evolution that adds nuance to the skill set can only benefit them.

  • @Abrie007
    @Abrie00724 күн бұрын

    Come now… Rassie has earned our support, now we need to wait and see.

  • @arceyes
    @arceyes23 күн бұрын

    Bongi says relax. In Rassie we trust.

  • @stevenburrow8804
    @stevenburrow880424 күн бұрын

    For possibly the first time, i fully agree with you guys. Good episode guys

  • @surettemyburgh8629
    @surettemyburgh862924 күн бұрын

    Love you guys. Lekker brainstorm session....let us see where this goes.

  • @ivanlekgwara5139
    @ivanlekgwara513924 күн бұрын

    This is probably the best video analysis I’ve seen in a long time, thank you. It was a tight game and the margin of error was small. The ref did make some calls that favoured SA which lead to crucial points on the board 👌🏿👌🏿

  • @user-bq6bp5ze2w
    @user-bq6bp5ze2w24 күн бұрын

    "The game wasn't big enough for Handre, he deals in world cup finals'" 😂. Great line. Probably not wrong.

  • @steveparis5049
    @steveparis504924 күн бұрын

    It's a false dichotomy, doesn't have to be either or. In fact playing wide and fast only really works with brutal forwards.

  • @timbaker4253

    @timbaker4253

    24 күн бұрын

    Nope; you can’t be offloading before contact and also smashing them over in contact. The flyboard can’t be flat and deep. Etc etc.

  • @steveparis5049

    @steveparis5049

    24 күн бұрын

    @@timbaker4253 well yes but you don't have to be offloading everytime you take contact and the flyhalf doesn't have to be flat every play. I mean kolisi ran over a few Irish defenders, in fact the ref stopping the game for the one time was nonsense, we had a overlap that probably would of ended in a try if play went on.

  • @timbaker4253

    @timbaker4253

    24 күн бұрын

    @@steveparis5049 Keo and Zels don’t think you can play two styles and switch between the two and I tend to agree. Look at NZ for enable; they only play a running game. They can’t suddenly switch to a power game.

  • @steveparis5049

    @steveparis5049

    23 күн бұрын

    Well let's look at what happened in the game, we beat Ireland who we haven't for a while. If Pollard kicked like he did in the world cup and Kwagga Smith caught a high ball it would of been an easy win.

  • @timbaker4253

    @timbaker4253

    23 күн бұрын

    @@steveparis5049 who’s to say we wouldn’t have beaten them more comprehensively if we had used our old subdue and penetrate approach? I think we would’ve. And saying the new strategy worked because we won is missing the point that this is the first time we are playing Ireland at home for a very long time and we are expected to win at home in any event.

  • @leonkatharian9769
    @leonkatharian976924 күн бұрын

    No way rassie will not stick to this ,his playing the World of rugby, he will ply both styles, horses for course s

  • @1nt1m1d4t0r
    @1nt1m1d4t0r24 күн бұрын

    Are you two being difficult for fun??

  • @spencercourtis9371

    @spencercourtis9371

    24 күн бұрын

    lolol. spot on

  • @BaconPancake165
    @BaconPancake16523 күн бұрын

    Bro we evolving our game. We looked dangerous

  • @maynardjunior5638
    @maynardjunior563824 күн бұрын

    It was a experiment guys, we didn't kick in the game, we will improve n in the second test we will play the way we alway play

  • @MarcoV_dj
    @MarcoV_dj24 күн бұрын

    The masters of expansive Rugby , All Blacks , would love for us to play that game style come the championship - Japan , Portugal , Scotland , Aus also keenly watching.

  • @donjohn2065
    @donjohn206523 күн бұрын

    Don't be negative nelly's, first test of the season! New coaching staff..has Rassie ever let us down? Polly's missed pens also flattered the scoreboard.

  • @nzfreeski
    @nzfreeski24 күн бұрын

    Btw, if the boks can play in the back like the ABs combined with your forwards and bomb squad, that’s a scary prospect

  • @hannesbornman1045
    @hannesbornman104524 күн бұрын

    I quite like the expansive game, but they should only use that game plan when appropriate. I think for the Durban test they should go back to the old school tactics. If the boks over time can fine tune their expansive game the other teams are going to be in a world of trouble trying to prepare for what the boks might being in any given game.

  • @johnnybravo6829
    @johnnybravo682924 күн бұрын

    Great way to start the week listening to a Keo and Zels episode. Thanks boys

  • @timbaker4253
    @timbaker425324 күн бұрын

    I agree with the views on this program but the only thing I would say is that what works in the World Cup doesn’t give you consistent wins between a World Cup, i.e. you need structures and coaching to consistently beat teams which has to include a better attack than the Boks have traditionally had. The Boks style works perfectly in a high-pressure World Cup game Easier is trying to take us to the next level where we can win the in between games too.

  • @lourow1993
    @lourow199324 күн бұрын

    South Africa should really target the rugby championship. One win in that tournament since 2009, and that was a shortened World Cup year one.

  • @nj-ns4sb
    @nj-ns4sb24 күн бұрын

    I think you'll find that Smitty and co. gave the Ozzies a proper klap in Perth in '09.

  • @MoonHoax-md6mp
    @MoonHoax-md6mp24 күн бұрын

    The Boks are much more dangerous when attacking. Changing rugby rules and possible limits to substitutes will necessitate a more open attacking game. Rassie understands these dynamics. The Boks defensive counter attacking game of the past is very dangerous resulting in 1 point victories, a relative low 60% win rate and many penalties against the Boks not to mention "ugly rugby." Rassie understands the new focus and rules necessitating a faster more open game. What is required is some personnel changes in the Bok Squad to compliment their new attacking style. Evan Roos at 8, Kwagga on the bench, Grant Williams starting with Faf or Morne on the bench, Fassi and Quin Horn eventually to replace Willie, with Jasper Wiese and Elrigh Louw coming on board. FMZ must also start or replace Pollard earlier in the Durban match. Handre Pollard is not what he used to be even when playing for Leinster Tigers this past season. The Boks looked much more in charge of the game on Saturday by adopting a more open game against Ireland than in the RWC and other "recent games" against Ireland where the Boks tried to dominate with the forwards only. The penalty count was refreshingly not negative against the Boks for the precise reason that they played a more open game. There is no reason why the Boks can't play a more expansive game for the reasons mentioned whilst still dominating in the forward exchanges. We have tons of backs with pace to spare and young mobile backrow players such as, Kolisi, Jasper Wiese, PSDT, Kwagga, Evan Roos, Elrigh Louw, JC Pretorius, Ben Jason Dixon, Ruan Venter, Milo Gumede etc..... I fully support the Boks new expansive game.

  • @SAPPERBRAVO
    @SAPPERBRAVO24 күн бұрын

    Can we give Faf some more credits that oke is so underated and he's the reason we get tries in the first place. Also, ALWAYS a good laugh watching him bounce off guys 10x his size and Faf just laughing it off after. 😂

  • @ryanfulton2247
    @ryanfulton224724 күн бұрын

    Thanks chaps. Food for thought. 👌

  • @renierswart5878
    @renierswart587824 күн бұрын

    Is no one concerned about our rucks? We are so exposed to jackling due to the expansive play. Players that are good around the rucks are now on the edges of the pitch ready for the expansive game

  • @marksony6123
    @marksony612323 күн бұрын

    Jammer Mense, but you absolutely can do both. I refer to Nick Mallets side of 1998 that adopted a very attacking style. At the same time the defence was rock solid. So it can be done. I know we got knocked out in the semi finals but it was by a freak drop goal. It’s about time we use our speedsters out wide more often rather than just from a counter attack or up and under

  • @roadrunner872
    @roadrunner87224 күн бұрын

    Thanks guys for the great show

  • @frasermilne7801
    @frasermilne780124 күн бұрын

    Agree we need to evolve our attack but not at the expense of ditching our strengths... forward dominance has taken us far.

  • @GD-ib1jc
    @GD-ib1jc24 күн бұрын

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this is kak talk. When our boks really start smashing teams with new style of play yous are gonna do a full 180 and eat your words. I look fwd to that 😂

  • @richardfincham7744
    @richardfincham774424 күн бұрын

    Next World Cup in Australia is going to be won by the best attacking team.

  • @dairet1945

    @dairet1945

    24 күн бұрын

    @@etienne_oosthuizen Leinster's attack has been very bad under Neinabar.

  • @notenoughstones3873

    @notenoughstones3873

    24 күн бұрын

    This gets said every World Cup and every World Cup it never materialises. Even NZ didn’t win 2011/15 playing flashy rugby. They won with great defence, strong forwards and a good kicking game.

  • @notenoughstones3873

    @notenoughstones3873

    24 күн бұрын

    @@ho6277 that team was bonkers I agree but NZ played % rugby in the semi final to beat SA 20-18 playing very much a territory game and pinning them in their half and kicking penalties when they came. 1st half vs Aus was also the similar until they got a bit of breathing space and capitalised on Aus trying to chase the game. They were way more expansive outside the World Cup

  • @mikezog1030
    @mikezog103023 күн бұрын

    Dayimani would be amazing in the kind of role that they used PSDT in. They need to get him back.

  • @ronanjones7606
    @ronanjones760624 күн бұрын

    3 September 2022 - Sydney - Springboks won

  • @leonswanepoel6899
    @leonswanepoel689924 күн бұрын

    AGREE FULLY. We need to adjust. We have always lacked the skills to attack effectively from set-pieces. We usually kicked up-and-unders or played McKiintosh bump car rugby. Now, at last, we have another option. I support this new option fully. It will take time for the players to perfect the skills.

  • @vinceroos
    @vinceroos24 күн бұрын

    The intro tune brings me deep joy knowing what's coming up.

  • @N1ghtCrawler1
    @N1ghtCrawler124 күн бұрын

    Love the channel guys! To go against the grain though I like the way the Boks are looking to be more expansive but still keep a strong forward game I think could be a lethal next level threat. Keep up the great videos 👍💚

  • @ryanmay7399
    @ryanmay739924 күн бұрын

    Great show as usual guys! Was so looking forward to this show

  • @geoffnelson6756
    @geoffnelson675623 күн бұрын

    Ireland were hanging on for much of the game, but scramble defence kept them in the game, ultimately the TMO prevented any momentum for Ireland, an even split in the 50/50 calls and Doris's try correctly awarded would have changed the dynamic of the game. Its a real killer to have decisions continually go against you.

  • @user-qe1tv1bu2f
    @user-qe1tv1bu2f24 күн бұрын

    Keo and zels, u make a good loving couple

  • @Jan-zh6wn
    @Jan-zh6wn24 күн бұрын

    The springboks got very very lucky. The kicking was shocking.

  • @victordastile5204

    @victordastile5204

    23 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv
    @AffectionateMountainRang-xv8gv24 күн бұрын

    Smoked some strong stuff these guys. Before the program want some of that so i can allso talk shit

  • @kumquat4543
    @kumquat454319 күн бұрын

    These guys were 100% correct, Boks got fucked up by a very average Irish team, and didn't even score a single try with their fancy new attack, we've got the worst of both worlds

  • @jonathanwhitsed2188
    @jonathanwhitsed218823 күн бұрын

    In 2022, the Springboks ended their nine-year drought against the Wallabies in Australia by winning 24-8 in Sydney...

  • @JastorKeane-ln2tz
    @JastorKeane-ln2tz17 күн бұрын

    Your Boks were BRUTAL in the second game alright 🤣

  • @wlk2408
    @wlk240824 күн бұрын

    Pollard made the third most tackles out of all the Springboks. He made more tackles than Kolisi, Kwagga, De Allende or Kriel which is insane. I don't know if Manie is going to last having to make that many tackles. Rucks was a disaster and our ruck speed was awful. Our frontrow carried a lot more ball and made much more tackles than usual. Rassie played with backrowers out wide before. When he was still with the Cheetahs they also played with backrow players out wide and he did it in the World Cup. He mention the tactic in Chacing the Sun 2. Just one thing about the Cheetahs they always had a smaller more mobile pack. We will see in Durban if Farrell can unlock this gameplan. The one try showed the danger of this gameplan when you have tight forwards defending the midfield and they have to make defensive reads if four or five players run straight at them. I think Farrell will definitely try to create more such positions. It is still early days and we will see how it works. I just hope we don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

  • @mariusarendse2596

    @mariusarendse2596

    24 күн бұрын

    I think Manie last the hole game and has way more flair, he suits this type of style play way more than Pollard

  • @wlk2408

    @wlk2408

    24 күн бұрын

    @@mariusarendse2596 Like I said, our ten had to make more tackles than any of the other backs and even forwards. Manie is small and will have to make much more tackles than what he use to do.

  • @mariusarendse2596

    @mariusarendse2596

    24 күн бұрын

    @@wlk2408 your point doesn’t make sense at all

  • @tkbako9691

    @tkbako9691

    24 күн бұрын

    Rassie was probably testing the expansive attack and will switch back to the tried and tested gameplan this weekend, if not just to keep Ireland guessing. Ireland will try to start fast and will get smashed back from the first whistle. Bok 1 point victory loading.....

  • @wlk2408

    @wlk2408

    24 күн бұрын

    @@mariusarendse2596 Manie is not going to make all those tackles. Who is going to make them?

  • @jimsquire-chestnuts8381
    @jimsquire-chestnuts838124 күн бұрын

    Next game we need to retain the Raeburn Shield

  • @tappie34
    @tappie3424 күн бұрын

    Never forget Rassie is willing to lose some games to prove a point, remember Wales in Bloemfontein. People are complaining we play boring Rugby, rather lose some games playing expansive this year and then we can make changes from next year if we have to.

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