The thing about this combo however is that it is non-deterministic, which means you actually have to play it out to represent a loop.

@TypicalGeminiMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that is one of the downsides to this combo but it’s still a powerful combo

@karl-erikvik3400

Жыл бұрын

@@TypicalGeminiMTG You say downside, I say funny (at least the first time)

@aldermach6194

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think this ruling is shit. Yes, it can, and has, taken at least 10 minutes to draw the deck, but given that you can draw at almost every time that you dredge and can dredge infinitely, that means that the probability of you drawing your deck becomes absolute and should therefore be considered deterministic. Finite cards with infinite attempts to draw means that you can and will eventually draw your deck.

@bruhyoufarted3689

Жыл бұрын

@@aldermach6194 You can have your opinions, as I have a similar one, however this is just how the game works. Still, you can reason with your edh table in order to try to make it go faster.

@noahgolden6258

Жыл бұрын

im ok with having an audience to see my pimped out deck for 10 minutes

Huh... I guess with finale of devastation being a decent enough tutor on its own, we don't need to rath's edge loop anymore? That was my go-to, with praetors grasp as the backup. Winning at instant speed by looping crop rotation a billion times always made me smile :) Haven't touched the game in years, but I have fond memories of comboing out through a chains of mephistopheles.

Bonuse points if you use bitter ordeal and exile all oppoents libraries due to the infinate graveyard hits

A durttle strategy for a durttle commander lol Vigor and Gaea's Blessing are solid budget options for resetting your library. Throw in Underealm Litch and you can't deck out unless UL gets exiled

@TypicalGeminiMTG

Жыл бұрын

Those are some solid budget options good advice thank you!

Nice

@TypicalGeminiMTG

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Using scridge familiar dose the same thing with a less steps.

@TypicalGeminiMTG

Жыл бұрын

I was unaware of Skirge familiar as a card at this time but yes you are 100% correct 😁

I don't understand, how are you drawing your deck if you are dredging your library instead?

@TypicalGeminiMTG

6 ай бұрын

When you draw from discarding dakmor salvage you dredge but when the mill happens you could hit lands. That’s when you actually get to draw. The discard outlet is where the dredge comes in

@atomicdad3920

6 ай бұрын

@@TypicalGeminiMTG so every time you dredg a land you can use that land to draw instead of dredging? That makes sense now

@TypicalGeminiMTG

6 ай бұрын

Right because you are discarding a land for the draw trigger you dredge with so what gets milled from the dredge tigger is what you draw. Then discard the dakmor salvage and do it again

@radikaldesignz

Ай бұрын

Trick is, when you mill at least 1 land per dredge (with dakmor), your number of draws on the stack increases. Eventually, you'll have enough draw triggers on the stack to draw the whole deck after shuffling with a kozilek trigger.