R.I.P StackOverflow

@mattizzle81

Жыл бұрын

No question is stupid anymore 😂 I can be free to ask or suggest without getting rudely berated 😆

@juzuvloke

Жыл бұрын

I never got too sour about the arrogant devs telling me "I don't know why you'd ever do it like that!" Here's the correct way. 😂 That's just me. These are awesome tools though. I'll use these if I ever decide to get back into learning coding! Just nuts!

@iCrazy414

Жыл бұрын

Good riddance, no more scrolling through condescending comments to finally my answer

@toadlguy

Жыл бұрын

Without StackOverflow and it's ilk, where will GPT4 (and it's ilk) get it's training information. Will 2022 (or whenever GPT4's model was trained) be the end of new knowledge (at least on the internet)?

@MePeterNicholls

Жыл бұрын

@@juzuvloke it’s because that’s not what most do. They’re more like “get lost noob”

Just in case you didn't know, the original Copilot is based on Codex model - you're correct in that, but it is still an OpenAI model. They've basically switched from OpenAI's Codex model to OpenAI's GPT model

coding without ai is like going back to Stone Age

@kevinesh

Жыл бұрын

and Stone age was just a year ago...

@floradreamweaver3646

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinesh yes that's what we called revolution

@Q_20

Жыл бұрын

Imagine coding without Google and stackoverflow

@yahiiia9269

Жыл бұрын

@@floradreamweaver3646 More like evolution.

@nossir

Жыл бұрын

Damn... my passion just became ooga booga... damn

AI might not replace developers yet but it can push requirements for the jobs and salaries down

@michaelnurse9089

Жыл бұрын

Or 10x the current devs - leaving every intern position harder to win than American Idol.

@ex0stasis72

Жыл бұрын

As a brand new software engineer searching for my first job, I say, "Good." I don't need a 6 figure salary nor the expectation of no-lifing my job to justify it.

@adwaitvedant3297

Жыл бұрын

It won't replace developing job as a whole..But it will significantly reduce the need for mass people in software development....Now 5 people can do the task of 50 people...

@randalvc

Жыл бұрын

@@adwaitvedant3297 Goodbye to those 45 other developers (yeah they lost their job)

Жыл бұрын

I think the right strategy is to totally incorporate AI in our workflow. We will be 10x more productive. But that does not mean that developers will be fired. We must remember that every time there is a new tool that improves our efficiency other companies benefit from it as well. So, if our competitor now has the equivalent 10x more developers as before, we must be 10x more productive as well, so everybody keeps their jobs, otherwise the company dies for lagging behind. Excel didn’t replace accounting people, photoshop didn’t replace artists and CAD didn’t replace engineers; what all these people has got to do was to learn these tools. That’s what I think we must do now.

entered the waitlist, thanks for the video!

Maaaaannnn, tests are THE THING in programming. It makes life so much easier when making modifications. But still, due to the lack of time or simply because I have to remember the framework, I feel bad when I don’t make enough tests. If copilot can make tests, it will be a world of difference. It will be just a matter of asking for them to be created and then make adjustments. It will also help to remember and learn the framework in the process. When I saw that I went nuts!

The company I work for enforce writing tests and copilot speeds that up ALOT!

How does one consider intellectual property protection when using these tools? Are the models running locally? Or is your code getting uploaded to the cloud? Seems like a huge IP security hole and just a way for MS to gobble up more code.

I think this AI will change visual studio in many ways. I can't wait for it.

The main reason I don't particularly enjoy utilizing this tool in my regular activities is that I worry it may hinder my ability to code independently

Awesome! I can’t wait to try this 🥂

Thanks a lot sir! Very useful

Alex, I have a question, maybe you can ask ChatGPT as well: how come with this quality videos you only have 125k subscribers? Mindblowing..

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

gotta start somewhere 😆 thanks!

Lol. Alex, yeah I write tests when it's for custom types that perform a unique function. Like specific unit types converted and used by things like firmware.

i love your videos and your calm voice

doing the unit tests.. every second time :D

I think this command line intelligent interface is more revolutionary than the coding tools. I do not believe that ChatGPT will ever replace developers, but that smart CLI has a better chance to replace admins.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it looks like one of those under-the-radar tools that will unleash the most power.

It seems like the power of Copilet X is as big as how much a user know of the topic.

I like how you react to it, im as excited as you sir

I have copilotx. Im a senior engineer and it’s nice when you need to know how to format a gnu sed command but it’s useless for real programming in my experience. It sends you down crazy rabbit holes wasting time but never really solving your problem. It’s absolutely impressive but for me it’s not effective. A lot of the questions i ask it I get very reasonable and believable answers that once I try it I realize it’s wrong. It will apologize for the mistake and tell you something else to try that is also entirely wrong but sounds reasonable. My mind is blown that people say this is helping them. One thing it does a great job at is help with printf debugging. Tell it to format and print all the variables in scope and it will generate you gorgeously formatted print statements, but it’s not going to do your engineering.

"Pre-debugging" should eventually remove any need in static typing. Thank you for the video.

Alex, Alex this is just getting better and better. Sinner btw!

They will have to attach it to the compiler for debugging. Let it try different things. That is compile time bugs. Run time bugs will be harder but not impossible.

Alex you are the best 👍

What an exciting and horrifying time to be a developer

I love Copilot but I don't use it nearly enough. If it can help me turn code files into Jekyll documentation it might just save my sanity. If it can't do that, maybe it can help me write code that converts code into Jekyll docs, and that will be juat fine too. I can't wait to dive in and give the newest version a run.

I think the name "chad-gpt" is accurate. (saw it somewhere in the subtitles of the video)

thank you o much

What makes copilot better than the gpt 4 extension in vscode?

how is it different from chat gpt? it does everything you mentioned.

Can it answer design, architecture questions?

Unfortunately copilot does not support Visual Studio for ARM64 ... yet.

I like the codehorror guy, he had the best intentions when he made StackOverflow, he is a nice guy, however, he is partially responsible for the toxicity of stackoverflow because he created it with that reputation system.

I've been waiting for AI to write my tests. 😮

Where would i start if i want to start learning Web and App development ?

@varshniveralevel8347

Жыл бұрын

HTML5 CSS3+ framework JavaScript + framework Node js Mongodb and SQL

nice video keep going

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

thx 🙏

Crazy how afraid people are of these tools, but man, I can't wait - Copilot already saves me so much time; though using GPT4 and giving it code, telling it the update required, and having it just spit it out is beyond insane/helpful for quick turnarounds.

@mattizzle81

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I see it the same way as you. Maybe because I’m not a full time developer but use programming in my job anyway. It will just supercharge things. So much to do, so little time to do it. 😂

@michaelnurse9089

Жыл бұрын

It is because you lack the foresight to look five years down the line when some kind of AI is used by a startup to Netflix your whole Blockbuster-style employer. Until then, happy coding.

@KoralTea

Жыл бұрын

Because it devalues your work, if it ain’t too special anymore then why would companies hire more people and pay higher salaries?

@mattizzle81

Жыл бұрын

@@KoralTea It only devalues working without it. Those who are proficient with this technology will do very well. Yes tedious work will be replaced but the increased productivity will create demand for “more stuff”. More software will get created and mote complex software since it will be more manageable to do so.

@alisoylu4034

Жыл бұрын

Sure, you will save so much time such that you won't need to do any small piece of work soon :):):)

really excited for this

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

me tooo!

Tbf to the sour stack overflow devs and mods, they walked so copilot x could run and without their passive aggressive judgement the training data would be 💩

that's awesome (Copilot X and the video ) and yes, i may could have done more testing with my code in the past 😅

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

and yes, copilot is impressive

Finally automated tests on selected code 🤣

I am always afraid of this tool would spoil me and make me unconfident about the very code I wrote myself.😢

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

i’m spoiled and proud of it

I'm wondering if it can TDD.

I'm not doing tests until the code is complex and critical enough to require it. Mandatory coverage is a waste of time, and most tests created just to reach the threshold are useless.

5:37 I don't even really understand what unit tests really are °_° I know, a big OOF!

what's funny ist, now that people will use this and not ask and solve anything in other platforms, as the new technologies occur, people will start to not find solutions to anything

RIP stackoverflow 😅

I always unit test and integration test for every story 👼

Can’t imagine one day a non-developer without any domain knowledges can produce equally quality code of a senior developer.

can the chat still respond to general question unrelated to coding?

Tests? what are those ? 😁

warp terminal already has cli ai

Its not launched yet is it? TBH your heading seems to suggest that.

I do test! I release to production and see what breaks. **Kidding kidding (not kidding) **

Gotta love coding humour 🤣

About the unit test. I have set up our pipeline so that it checks for 80% minimum code coverage. Now everyone is forced to write tests or their PRs will be instantly rejected. 😎😈

Who does tests🤨.... I test in production🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I've never written tests for personal projects ;-;

Does it support PHP? or only Python and JS?

@madsteeez

Жыл бұрын

It's language agnostic

test never heard of them hahahahahah

I hardly write unit tests just debugging

When will it be released?

I confess lack of tests. I figured a machine could do it better one day. Forgiven?

programmers should know this is not a good news on the long run.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

nothing you can do. it’s coming no matter what. Might as well learn it and be good at it.

@onilbautista

Жыл бұрын

​@@AZisk the increasing use of AI is a cause for concern, as the more proficient we become with it, the quicker it replaces our jobs. unfortunately, being good at it will eventually become irrelevant, as AI only requires the necessary data to function independently. what's worse is that we're the ones providing this data. it's frustrating to encounter the belief that nothing can be done about the situation, when in fact, these AI tools are still dependent on our input, at least for now. it's baffling that we're allowing companies to utilize us for free, helping them take over our jobs.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

@@onilbautista you might have a good point. but we also really don’t know for sure how things will play out. sitting scared and not allow progress like this to happen is not who we are.

I don't write enough tests :(

I am always doing tests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too Much, it's just Too Much - Everything Everywhere All at Once!

@toadlguy

Жыл бұрын

OK - I Signed Up 😁

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

😆

they didn't give us, they announced it.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

they handed it down upon us

Next up: copilot for nurses.

I am not doing tests, I am bad bad boy.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

yes you are

Thank you, Alex. Apple as always lags behind integration and everything else, very sad.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

Apple helps improve things that are getting stale. AI is not stale yet

@toadlguy

Жыл бұрын

@@AZisk Good point. Yet.

speed of progress is too high for copilot x to matter even next year, it will have replaced itself about 5 times

Great vid, but surely this is going to be more than $10/month now?

Mot at all as a prgrammer senior full stack here. We will always be there. Maybe not jr or lower level though and industry will shift.

so you choiced thumbernail 1

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

sure did. :)

Your code is sent to remote server for processing? Lawsuit incoming

Individual wait list for each feature?? Ok..

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

yep. maybe a bit of microsoft influence showing

Never did units

Finally SO snake nest will be eliminated.

The music in the background is too loud

That is great, but the code goes through Microsoft servers, so it won't be always ok to use it in your professional work.

Where is Google in this game?

if copilot for docs improves docs, that will make the world better. There's too many open source projects with horrible docs :) Every developer has been guilty of poor docs. I know I have in the last twenty years.

@maxwellflitton3973

Жыл бұрын

the irony is that less people will probably read the docs as copilot will autofill the APIs

@benjaminschultz6501

Жыл бұрын

That's an irony I'm happy to live with, tbh.

It isn't Stack Overflow; its been Karen Overflow for a while now.

Assalamu Alaikkum Warahmathullahi Wabarakathuhu 🎉🎉🎉

Dont need too much tests, otherwise many poor project managers and assistants would be useless 😜

Everyone is saying it's difficult to keep up with AI tools, but most of the tools I see are either in beta or, worse, waitlist phase. It's easy to get a product out when the standard for release is just "I have an idea!"

Yeah, totally guilty of not writing unit tests.

So learning programming is a waste now?

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

never a waste to learn

How to use Copilot with Xcode?

@MamaMia84oo7

Жыл бұрын

VSC is king.

I confess!! forgive me of my sins. I don't do tests

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

bad bad!

Unfortunately the uncertain legality of this makes using it for commercial applications not yet feasible. There are still lawsuits pending. From the learning side it remains to be seen if training models on licensed code is judged fair use/transformative. For the usage side since the model loses licensing information, what happens if it inserts some code lifted from AGPL3 project, who can make determination if that snippet is substantial enough?

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

I believe GitHub mitigated this issue by honoring the licences of code that the model is fed.

R.I.O our jobs in 4 years

You are being eliminated but you are happy. Strange...

AI is booming, wondering what else AI can do in 2050

@ex0stasis72

Жыл бұрын

2050? We don't even know what AI will be capable of in 2024 at the rate that it is improving.

@beingwhale

Жыл бұрын

@@ex0stasis72 yes it's moving so fast..

Thanks for this great video. But, dude, it's pronounced "regex" as in "edge-x," not "r-egg-x" as in "egg." It's been that way for decades.

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

no way. it’s from regular expressions not from rejular expressions

@iGhostr

Жыл бұрын

what the actual fck is going on in this thread 💀💀

Open AI is not founded by Microsoft

@AZisk

Жыл бұрын

nope, but they were funded by Microsoft

😍😍

Ok, if you guys want the AI to judge and make any decisions of your coding. You all would get fired

Clippy.