her top was most definitely chosen on purpose. showing the black and white, the ying and yang, the good and bad coexisting inside ginny. And probably also how she is caught between black and white people, belonging to neither of them and struggling with being a woman of color which her white mom could never understand. Or maybe I'm just reading way too much into it ahaha

@shawngood7980

Жыл бұрын

Nah I felt like there's was a lot of symbolism is when it comes to the colors of the characters for example max wearing bright color or ginny wearing dark colors.

@flaiirenn

Жыл бұрын

no, you're catching onto something for sure

@latonitobonito

Жыл бұрын

its ginnopulus and giorgio bro, its not that deep.

@kristenmckinney3771

Жыл бұрын

@Sagarika Mohapatra I don't necessarily agree. I think we can all agree that Georgia was a questionable character at some points but overall an amazing mom. However, just because you have an amazing parent doesn't mean that they're meant for you. Sometimes you just clash and you'll never be able to to see eye to eye or see the sacrifices you made for each other. It's like water and oil, both are amazing and are needed but for different purpose and neither one of them will be able to mix.

Georgia did everything to keep her children safe and to keep their custody she literally take bullets for her kids . I don't think she's a monster at all loved her character i wish i had mother like her we don't understand the feelings of our parents until the day we become one 🥺🥺🥺

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

You can say the same for Georgia. How many times has Georgia tried to deny Ginny’s experiences especially as a black teenage girl? It’s a lot

@ChanBoogie310

Жыл бұрын

She people looking at it from an outside perspective. Try to put yourself in Ginny shoes, finding out your mother murder people and is hiding all these secrets, always moving and never knowing the reason why. Yes she did it for them and they understand that but she doesn’t realize how it harms them and didn’t really try to understand until recently.

@rikaze

Жыл бұрын

I think we all want to paint characters, and people, in broad strokes of good and bad. One harsh poem doesn't mean Ginny doesn't acknowledge all the good and love Georgia gave her. But all that love and sacrifice doesn't mean that Ginny wasn't hurt by certain things Georgia did and said, or didn't do or say. I think this scene, and show, is beautiful because it's not about trying to make it through life always being in the right, but rather about having enough love to heal yourself and each other when we all inevitably make mistakes. Ginny is allowed to have her pain heard without denying that Georgia is a good mother. Good parents aren't those who never cause their children pain. Good parents take responsibility for the pain they've caused and try to make up for it.

@rose-5445

Жыл бұрын

How can people like ginny

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

@@rose-5445 how can people like a narcissist mother who decides that dressing up as a white slave owner can’t upset her daughter? Like you’re weird

Antoine is such a amazing actress love this scene so much it was so powerful, and heartbreaking her poem was amazing I could feel her pain what she going through😭👏🏽❤.

@amandaobando259

Жыл бұрын

Toni is a great actress. She used to do stand-up when at school and she was too good HAHA i was like 'nah, why is she pretending to be a cactus right now. She's too good' I keep watching her in this and i'm so excited for her future work

@BeverlyBeaver

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t get the poem except the mom part which was way off and she is the monster not her mom

I love this scene because of Antonia and briannes acting but I think the fandom really did NOT understand the point of this scene in anyway shape or form

@itzzz.zahra_

Жыл бұрын

this!! exactly what I’ve been saying. people from the fandom don’t understand ginny this season and aren’t really trying to and it shows and not gonna lie it’s annoying as hell trying to explain to people who don’t try to understand her.

@19Rena96

Жыл бұрын

@@itzzz.zahra_ Imo she was actually like a normal teen who is struggling. I don't know why so many people have a problem with her. S1.. ok fine, she definitely had some bad/weird moments, but s2 is all about character growth and working on her problems.

@itzzz.zahra_

Жыл бұрын

@@19Rena96 preach!!

@terynb4407

Жыл бұрын

@Verena_fcb8 it's like people never been a teenager before and hasn't struggled with figuring who they are, ups and downs of friendships, and mental health. In S1 we were just now figuring out that oh she commits self harm but we didn't see the emotional baggage of it all until this season

@LoungingPotato

Жыл бұрын

The fandom has always had a hard-on for hating Ginny. She can't have any negative reaction to anything her mother says or does without people saying she's a brat and should just be grateful. I really fucking hope those people don't plan on becoming parents because they would be awful at trying to understand their children...

I know Georgia gave everything for Ginny to have a good life, but you guys clearly missed the point of this poem. I still think it’s horrible that Ginny called Georgia a monster, but she feels like she is no longer innocent because she knows too much, probably because Georgia treats her like a best friend rather than a daughter.

@teresamarie7460

Жыл бұрын

Ginny told her therapist Georgia hides a lot from her. Also, the PI told her about Kenny. She didn't confront her mother until she told Marcus. After her mother explained why she did that to Kenny, she still couldn't understand because she has never been through anything traumatic in her life. Ginny is one naive teenager.

@sista363

Жыл бұрын

@@teresamarie7460 exactly. She's so sheltered that she doesn't even know the dangers her mom protected her from

@Nanda-oq5mb

Жыл бұрын

But she was the one who wanted to know she was always shouting that her mother didn't tell her anything nd when she did tell her she behaved exactly like a privileged brat. I'm not talking bout the part where Ginny felt bad for the deaths of those ppl I'm talking bout the part where treated her mother like shit even after seeing how much shit her mother had went through. She was like ok yeah u did that for me now let go back to my pity party

@TheSafiera95

Жыл бұрын

she was the one throwing tantrums of all what georgia's been hiding. there is a reason her mother hid all of this from her and now when she finally knows she's going to cry about not being innocent anymore? please. georgia has done TOO much for her to be called a monster.

@SG-pu3rx

Жыл бұрын

She is manipulative towards her mother and everyone else and a bully. Bffr Teenage angst does not justify being an abuser

the acting tho like damn, I really felt that

Meanwhile, all the girls who have mothers who allow the men in their lives to abuse them are wishing they have a mother like Georgia to protect them. Also, Ginny is so sheltered and naive that she doesn't know Kenny is the monster.

@Sofia-yy8ei

Жыл бұрын

Did you even watch season 2?

@teresamarie7460

Жыл бұрын

@@Sofia-yy8ei Yes. We are critical thinkers when we watch shows so your opinions will be different from our facts.

@Gamingworld-xf6mi

Жыл бұрын

You're only seeing the good side of her. now let me point you out her bad side. 1) She is Immature, she is a grown ass woman who should know how to act Ex: When she threw all the food away when she could have just hid them 2) she doesn't allow her kids therapy, after all she has done to traumatised them and all the signs they showed they need therapy. It's one of the reasons why Ginny is struggling because she needs therapy 3)Georgia never disciplines her kids, Why do u think Ginny is so rude to her mom? Because she was never taught discipline. 4)She let's dangerous men into her life. The main example is Kenny and gill. Which puts her kids in danger 5) Georgia is a bad influence, She taught her kids to always run away from her problems which Is not good and etc which makes Ginny not want to be like georgia but she is slowly becoming like her. Georgia is definitely not someone who u would want as a mom. People are only willing to see the glamourous side of her being some sort of savior and praise her every time but if u actually had a mother like her then u would be extremely depressed.

@anastaciaorekhova7972

Жыл бұрын

@@Gamingworld-xf6mi this!! But people want to stay blind and deny Georgia's flaws so bad😐

@sujnka3191

Жыл бұрын

ginny isn't naive for feeling bad about kenny's death. im not saying kenny didn't deserve it but instead of leaving kenny georgia immediately killed him and then constantly put the weight of it on ginny by saying "i did this for you" to justify it as if ginny SHOULD be happy kenny's dead and should even be thankful for it (which is giving her no room to feel any other emotions). like it's messed up that y'all are upset that a sophomore doesn't like killing

I feel like everyone forgets that yes Georgia may do anything for her kids but at the end of the day she is a murderer. Kenny was a horrible man but she could have just left him or run away but no she just ‘had to’ murder him. No wonder Ginny feels all this rage it must be difficult knowing she’s the reason her mom killed Kenny

@Harmoniagame

9 ай бұрын

Would you leave a man to go and do that to another woman's child? What would've happened if she hadn't killed Kenny, Ginny would've probably been more depressed than she was now, Georgia was just saving her from the nightmares she had to endure in her past

Am I too old to hide under the bed? I'm stuck in a storm But the storm's in my head All I see is lightning All I hear is thunder Just one boom coming one after the other I once was blind, but now I see The blindfolds folds have unfolded from me But try as I might to close my eyes And shut them tight and go back to black To not knowing, to trust Because now that I know I know what I must do for you What you've made me be And I'd give anything to wash it away Scrub and scrub that damn spot out But you can't wash off a tattoo Because now, you see, I'm culpable too I gnash and gnarl and gnaw until I'm raw My vocal cords vibrating With vicious and vital truths That I need to speak That you need to hear My tongue undulating With the undue burden of silence But the sound chokes back into my throat A hard swollen lump I swallow down They say mother knows best But what if there are things Mother doesn't know? Like if she can braid your hair But still stans Scarlett O'Hara You always say I am your reflection But I can't hide behind your smile And from where I'm standing We're on opposite sides of mirrored glass Me and you against the world? But the world is out to get me In ways you can never know or feel So how can you know it's real? I am sick of suffering in silence Today, I will stomp and scream and shout Until every word inside of me is out Just by knowing, by seeing That was my agreeing My hands wet, once clean Dirty with sins I don't mean Words I didn't say, dragons I didn't slay I inherit the sin And I become the monster That I was born from

@fatimafaheem6024

Жыл бұрын

Bro can you pls lmk what's the poem called?

@Chloe26262

Жыл бұрын

@@fatimafaheem6024 it doesn't have one

@starboy.x

Жыл бұрын

@@fatimafaheem6024 ginny wrote it

@Katie.1212

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@rupalisarkar2120

Жыл бұрын

❤

Her words are bitter but true. But just because something is true it is not the right thing. The pain in Georgia's eyes feels so wrong. If anyone else had said those words it would be like she deserves it. But those words coming from her daughter breaks my heart.

@ladytesha1

Жыл бұрын

Georgia needed to hear it. But all she heard was monster Ginny has been trying to talk to her mom but georgia just ignores her this was Ginny only chance to let it out

@krista3446

Жыл бұрын

@@ladytesha1exactly

@Mysterious-Night

6 ай бұрын

@@krista3446she had other chances to let it out though

I don’t care what anyone says this is the worst thing ginny has done. As a parent this is probably one of the most heartbreaking scene for Georgia. To hear your own child who’ve you’ve done EVERYTHING for say this about you. The acting from Georgia was amazing in this scene Also, I agree that Ginny is allowed to be mad. Poetry was away for her to release that frustration she has with her mom. But the pain in Georgia eyes was so heart breaking.

@recreatio

4 ай бұрын

😐

This scene literally gave me chills when I first watched it. Such a powerful scene.

@faithsanchez849

Жыл бұрын

I get chills no matter how many times over I watch it, this scene, this poem, has inspired me to write again.

@nightmare18642

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Georgia didn't deserve this

It’s honestly kinda pathetic how much most of the fandom has misinterpreted this scene.

@cherierose356

8 ай бұрын

Fr where is the emotional Intelligence

@RebrandYourselfFor

7 ай бұрын

I'm new but even if "I don't understand" still isn't good, or justified, and I'm not gonna pretend it is for your feelings

@urfavsh1teditor

5 ай бұрын

But it's not fair she called her mom a monster infront of all those people. And she was complaining about her mom dressing u in a Halloween costume that was racist apparently, when people dress up as evil things all the time

Ginny allowed to make this poem, she allowed to have these feelings, buh Georgia has done everything for her. Ginny had dealt with a lot in her past. Yet to call out her mother like that when you could have stopped, like the poem was very harsh. Georgia was never really punished Ginny and allowed Ginny to get away with things like her bf sneaking in her room. Ginny allowed to be mad at Georgia for some things buh I do feel like this poem is to harsh. Amazing poem.

@malyka6639

Жыл бұрын

Mmmm.. yeah lets not act like Georgia didnt dress as scarlett o hara for halloween while raising a half black child. She's insensitive and dreadful. Also Ginny's poem was going wayy too easy on Georgia, I would've said much worse to her psychotic ass

@lillymascaro1398

Жыл бұрын

@@malyka6639 Ok yea Scarlett o hara was bad buh you knw Georgia isn't really racist, she defended Ginny every time their was racist people toward Ginny, buh Georgia only killed Kenny, becuase he was innapropatly toward Ginny. The other man she killed was abusive. The only thing she did wrong to kill was Tom. There was no need for her. Thats my only problem with her killing. Sure Georgia needs to understand Ginny, buh so does Ginny.

@anotherpotterhead1201

Жыл бұрын

The thing is tho, ginny never rlly got to talk to Georgia like that, tell her how she rlly felt abt her, and this was her only chance. If ginny hadn't said it there, it would've just built up and up for awhile till it got worse and all just came out in a fight or smthn. Georgia had to hear what Ginny was feeling.

@malyka6639

Жыл бұрын

@@lillymascaro1398 I didn't say she was racist, I said she was insensitive. Those are two different things, and just because she goes out of her way to "protect" ginny doesn't change that fact.

@lifewithalara

Жыл бұрын

girl as her mother that’s georgias job. Georgia shouldn’t be praised for doing her job especially when ginny could’ve had much better life had she stayed with her grandparents instead of having to live through poverty and have no stability.

I might not like Ginny but I love this poem it’s so heartfelt

"I'm stuck in a storm, but the storms in my head"

Jesus..i mean..this season was amazing i loved every moment of s2😭❤👏🏽

Everyone criticizes Ginny, but as a teenager hiding a m*rder your mother committed is really heavy stuff, besides, we are all kinds of brats as teenagers. Plus the pen was really good in my opinion That being said my opinion isn't really valid as I haven't watched the show, just a bunch of shorts. Empathy comes easier to spectators who can ignore their own shortcomings because they aren't a part of the story, than to characters who get a story they don't fully understand from another person's tongue

I’m glad what they did this season with Ginny because she got so much undeserved hate, but they never tried to understand her. This scene and the therapy scene is a perfect example of what she feels.

@Serqphic

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't change the fact she's horrible at her mother, yes Georgia might be a bad person, but she still tried to be a good mother at Ginny and all she received was hatred and shit. Yes the second season gives us a better understanding about Ginny and how she feels inside, and even some character development, but still, she's a complete idiot

@AnekoAkabane69

Жыл бұрын

Undeserved hate? She literally manipulates the people closest to her for her own benefits, sure she didn't have the best upbringing. But Georgia raised her with nothing but love and compassion, not only that but continues to make sacrifices for her now that she's older. But she wants so badly to be that injured deer and victimizes herself every chance she gets, I'm sorry but Ginny deserves everything she gives out to others.

@ctrlnia2325

Жыл бұрын

she literally cheated on her boyfriend but yeah she’s a victim

@SG-pu3rx

Жыл бұрын

She is manipulative and abusive towards her mother and everyone else. Bffr Teenage angst does not justify being a bully

@Mysterious-Night

Жыл бұрын

Ginny is a bitch and an asshole

We need season 3 ❤️

@simpleshow5571

Жыл бұрын

If they cancel this series like 1899 i’m gonna be very frustrated

@noodle3909

Жыл бұрын

Season 3 would be incredible i’ve rewatched this season 2 times now it’s one of my favourite shows it’s just so good. They could possibly do Simone as Georgia’s lawyer which i would love to see.

@shawngood7980

Жыл бұрын

I want a prequel of wellsberry b4 ginny and georgia

@Kinna2cool4u

Жыл бұрын

They have renewed for two more seasons

@hoppercoley8803

Жыл бұрын

What episode/season is this?

I have a poetry festival coming up in school. And the only poem that grabs my attention is this one.

This scene made me appreciate slam poetry.

ngl this was an amazing poem

@Lokithetimevariant

Жыл бұрын

Nah it was just cringe

@heyangel28

Жыл бұрын

@@Lokithetimevariant it was cringe when she directed it at her mother but it's actually really good.

@Lokithetimevariant

Жыл бұрын

@@heyangel28 no I mean it's not about direction , to anyone The point is about how the poem was made It's like I'm so sad and my mom is a monster , but ya it would've sounded better on a different topic

@yoursimsplayer

Жыл бұрын

Georgia fanboy detected

@yoursimsplayer

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lokithetimevariant You're just saying that bc you don't like what Ginny said lmao

WE NEEEEEEED SEASON 3!

I'm glad Ginny got those feelings out, but that made her mom cry😢😢

I don’t understand why everyone is so pissed off at Ginny like ya. Her mom did things for her. She literally killed someone for her. And yes I’m georgias head she was trying to protect her but Ginny was a kid. And she had to protect her mom from a crime that she didn’t even ask for. For something that she didn’t expect. You have to understand that Ginny grew up with her mother. Someone she knows to be gentle and caring and sweet. Like a mother would be. But then to wake up one day and realize she killed someone ? She’s feel like her mothers a stranger. Someone she didn’t know and yes she’s struggling to understand the reason but neither Ginny nor Georgia is in the right or wrong here. They are people. And sometimes things aren’t so black and white. Reality lies in the grey and for you to completely ignore Ginny’s or georgias feelings in this situation is utter stupidity.

Ginny was so brave to face her mum as she said that

@haze_was_here

3 ай бұрын

She's not "brave" She's a horrible person. Georgia did SO MUCH FOR her, and ginny just whines about it? She's a brat, yeah she also faced shit, but like she has to step out of her protagonist zone, she thinks that oh everything revolves around her because what? She's a woman of color? She just wants mommy issues that's it.

@Christie-ot9xk

Ай бұрын

She was a bitch for it

I sobbed

This is a good scene

This sort of thing to say is consistent with Ginny's characterization but that does not make it right. One thing is to expose your feelings and one very different is proclaiming your mother is a monster in front of people that knows her. Yes, mothers can be horrible but Georgia is way more nuanced

That awkward pause tho- 😂

This scene made me want to write my own poem so I did and it’s about me struggling with depression

Joe is the only one that didn’t clap

ginny is the right one here tbh

@CreativeCreation7151

4 ай бұрын

WTF IS WEONG WITH YOU “GINNY” PEOPLE she INSULTED HER OWN MOTHER

that is so real.

some of you including georgia don't understand that the poem was a literal cry for help. the only part georgia noticed is when she called her a monster, she is a great mom but while the past is slowly "eating,, her she pushed away her daughter and her problems. "scrub and scrub that damn spot out but you cant wash off a tattoo", by my guessing, she meant that no matter how hard you try to feel better you just can't. (or something else), georgia COULD understand man. but she didn't because she makes things about herself and her past most of the time and ginny did do some messed up shit in her life and to her mom but she's a typical teenager and she goes through her own shit too which is completely understandable + in S2 she had a huge character development which is great and makes things less complicated for people that care to understand her character, georgia did get the positive recognition in the show so it's time ginny gets that part for a while, she deserves it.

@lisasimpson361

3 ай бұрын

It’s what happens when you cry wolf, Ginny has had this attitude since day one, it’s not a bad day anymore, that’s her character and her character sucks

I feel like everyone who hated on Ginny's speech reacted much like Georgia and only cared about the words written, not the meaning behind them. Granted, I do agree being called a sin and a monster by your own daughter, who you fought so hard to raise is very painful, and understand why Georgia reacted the way she did, especially knowing her past. And Ginny's not a saint either, we all know that much. But the past doesn't define who you are, so whatever Georgia went through, does not excuse any of her current actions. Ginny is 100% in the right to be hurt by Georgia, and for a teenager who looked up and admired her mom for as long as she did, to find out her hero did the cruel things she did is a massive burden, for sure. Plus, I think it's an amazing show of strong character for Ginny. That she doesn't let her love for her mother blind her to the truth, and isn't scared to defy her. The entire point is that this poem isn't about Georgia, but Ginny. Ginny's feelings. Ginny's words. Her screams, her shouts and her stomps, metaphorically speaking. For once, the spotlight isn't on her mom and Ginny, however vaguely, can speak about her feelings publially, pouring her heart out to a welcoming audience. Both characters are equally great as they are terrible (then again, Ginny's worst action being cheating on her boyfriend and Georgia's being literal murder and embezzlement says a lot more about what's considered "evil" nowadays, like no hate, just it's giving delulu yk what I'm saying? 💀) and that's what makes them so genuine and human. It's supposed to make us both love and hate them, but somehow, it makes the fans hold Ginny more accountable and Georgia less? Sorry for the essay. :(

@lisasimpson361

3 ай бұрын

It’s because Georgia tries over and over, that’s all she does. All Ginny does is b itch

@gratz_03

2 ай бұрын

The characters live in the moment, not analyzing every sentence of the poem...

one of the best scene of all time

i felt bad for gergiaa

@caitlindonaghy2211

Жыл бұрын

Me too

Ginny has the right to have feelings you know 💀 Her mother killed her ex father-in-law and has done a lot of other illegal things too. Georgia is a murderer, obviously Ginny sees an issue with that wtf

Like the acting. It’s raw!!!

@faymrrg7138

Жыл бұрын

It's horrible, the serie is an absolute disaster, so ridiculous and cringy!!

@leahxedits3383

Жыл бұрын

@@faymrrg7138 its so good yall have bad taste but ok

wow... just wow...

This poem's intensity increases every time I see this video. Oh God ginny is like river that's crushing it's dam's wall while reading poem😯 And Georgia's expression while hearing that peom is like she's swallowing pain, tears and she's getting choked on her own breath, while it's poisoning her slowly 😭

I love it

People shouldn't expect teenagers to be naturally empathetic & sensitive to others - they can't when their cognitive and emotional development keeps exploding every minute. Like wee tornadoes of uncontrolled 2 year olds in a teen body. That said, I'm so frikken glad I don't have kids, this phase in their lives would destroy me.

@abthurd

Жыл бұрын

I used to be a teenager. I was never like this. I never had outburst of emotions. Blaming everything on my parents when things went bad. Teenagers can think well too and they're at the age where they should be held accountable for their choices

@ladytesha1

Жыл бұрын

​@@abthurd not all especially when you can see your parents messing up and you can't say anything about it. And not every Teenager's goes through the same things to say that. they are still learning how to communicate their emotions. and if they think you don't care they will act out especially if they gone through alot And no one listening to them

@jadaandino4691

Жыл бұрын

You can expect more from a teenager. By then, they have a set of moral codes and ethics. They are NOT children anymore and their actions have consequences. Neither I nor my siblings would ever do this to our parents - even when one of them kind if deserve it. None of my friends would do this to their parents - and half of them have beyond complicated relationships with them. This is not a phase or teenage rebellion, or at least not an acceptable one. And it’s only because Georgia loves her kids so much that not a damn hand was raised.

@SalznPfeffer658

Жыл бұрын

@@jadaandino4691 expectation does not negate choice. I was stressing that other people should not be placing their own personal expectations and judgement on what empathy & compassion are - which are culturally subjective and NOT objective assessments of an emotional state - on top of a teenagers already chaotic & judgemental life. I didn't negate choice in this matter though. A teen could have all the incentives to cede to the psychological warfare happening inside them but it's the choice to do so that changes things. In this context, I wasn't excusing G's behaviour but understanding why she was behaving the way she was. Considering that Georgia hasn't made Ginny accountable for anything in her life at present - e.g no true repercussions for shoplifting,talking her way out of Ginny getting punished for anything - Ginny has no foundational basis from where she has learnt repercussions in a safe, nonjudgmental manner i.e her mother's expectations of behaviour have been almost nonexistent. With no basis, how does one expect Ginny to learn but the really really hard way of seeing how inflicting pain to a loved one does? This is a painful lesson for both to learn.

@SG-pu3rx

Жыл бұрын

She is manipulative towards her mother and everyone else and a bully. Bffr Teenage angst does not justify being an abuser

What episode is this?

whats that background sound when everyone is clapping and Georgia is crying ?

I thought this poem was all bout Georgia at first, but really it was about what Ginny’s been struggling with although I really don’t think the last phrase had anything to do it, hopefully.

If you hate Ginny, congratulations you missed the point of the entire show! Everyone views the show from Georgia’s past and perspective, but never Ginny’s. Virginia Miller was born to two teen parents and has never known a moment of stability. Her dad came and went and her mom’s boyfriends came and went. Georgia even had abusive men around (notably Gil. No matter how hard Georgia tried to hide it from Ginny, children always know..) At the slightest bit of trouble, Georgia moved them around state to state, so Ginny never had any real place to call home. She didn’t even have time to make friends. Not to mention, her parents had an on and off relationship throughout her childhood. Every time she hopes her parents would get back together and be a family, they break up again. Ginny knows her mother loves her, but she is NOT a stable person. S1 has proven that Ginny feels she cannot trust her mother to be a safe person when she needs it. Why do you think she self harms?? This poem is about Ginny’s pain, and you all are garbage for invalidating it.

people who hate ginny don’t understand her. she’s not just some girl who dislikes her mother for no reason.

@olathebuffoon9814

3 ай бұрын

But her saying she becomes the monster she was born from is so uncalled for

@xdesignsbylivx150

3 ай бұрын

@@olathebuffoon9814 okay but it makes sense. yeah it may sound mean but ginny was murderer. i know she did it for ginny, but ginny didn’t know that.

@fl0rans

2 ай бұрын

​@@xdesignsbylivx150Georgia has told ginny alot of times about the murder and they have a bonding moment and shit but next thing you ginny keeps repeating the cycle of just going back to hating her mother all over again it's kinda annoying.

@elliethequirkysnail

27 күн бұрын

​@@fl0ransIts how trauma works. I keep telling myself I forgive my dad but then I keep hating him again no matter how okay I think it is again. Its a long process and forgiveness is the hardest step.

I think this poem is SO BEAUTIFUL?! I need to know the poet ya’ll please 🙏

Ginnny's facial expressions throughout the poem was actually good!The insult broke Georgia's heart sadly.Atleast the actress did her job well

The only part I got from Ginny that was through was the fact that she is of an different color from her mom so her mom does not understand everything she goes through. But when she called her mom an monster that was not cool, her mother fought to damn hard to keep her safe as well as to ensure she is happy in the best way she bows, she ensured she did not go through the same hardship as she went through in life she never waited for her to complain she was observant and she took action, that was a strong woman and maybe she made a few mistakes but she is only human we are aloud to make mistakes I think Ginny should learn the hard way of how the world will change your every prospects of like how it will turn you into the monster you despise, that words really hurt her mom and I hope she really understands and reflects on them Plus am still waiting on the next season last season did not end well with me hurry the hell up Netflix

Moments like these are good when they don't put crappy remixes in every scene.

Wat episode???

So I don't support Georgia, Ginny has flaws but Georgia murdered people and constantly lied to others all in the name of "protecting" her kids, but murdering people is not protection. Also part of the reason she murdered kenny was for his money.

Off topic, I havnt watched the show yet, just clips, but seeing ginny, a girl who has natural kinky curly hair, black/mixed, I apologize in advance, bc I don't know if she's mixed or black, or Hispanic... But my point, it's nice to see a female character with the type of skin color that I have (I'm probably mixed, I just don't know of what, thanks to not knowing my birth dad), and hair type too, mines just darker brown... After I saw ginny, for the first time in my life, I finally, actually accepted my curls and now where my hair down more, and not in a ponytail or bun. I don't know, I know it's random, but it meant a lot to me, finally seeing a character like me, and I finally felt seen... I didn't feel alone... Maybe im overreacting... But ya.. I just wanted to tell someone how I felt...

@trivoupdate3766

Жыл бұрын

Lucky you

I’m not saying that ginny calling georgia a monster wasn’t bad. But do think about it a way that while georgia did do everything to protect her kids and while that is totally understandable ginny does get to have her own feelings. You all in the comments are so missunderstanding. The point is that none are actually in the wrong because while georgia only wanted to protect her children it also hurt them in a way. Not saying she shouldnt have done that, but all the moving and lying and everything that happend did have inpact on them(mostly ginny cause she’s older). Ginny was just in a bad place and I feel like as much as she didn’t have to call georgia a monster, she did have feelings she needed to get out. She has her own feelings. It’s not like she’ll just feel happy that georgia offed someone even if it was for protection. After all, she is still a kid.

When I heard this poem I started crying because I can relate to it so much….

She could've stopped reading at a certain point to save face, but no. She continued to humiliate her own mother who's done nothing but sacrifice her entire youth to her, and make it seem as though she was anything but understanding and loving. I absolutely loathe Ginny with a passion, but I understand it's just a character. Whoever the writer is did an AMAZING job making her very unlikeable

@winterrrrrrr

Жыл бұрын

She's not humiliating anyone. She's voicing her feelings that aren't ever heard by Georgia. When Ginny told Georgia she burns herself (or she got outed about it?? I'm not sure I don't remember that clearly) she literally made it about herself. Georgia makes EVERYTHING about herself.

@user-lt2gk4fx7f

Жыл бұрын

@@winterrrrrrr The thing is, she did not need to voice out her feelings in front of a whole group of audience at her mother's expense. That's just self-centred and disrespectful.

@winterrrrrrr

Жыл бұрын

@@user-lt2gk4fx7f literally who else do you want her to voice them to? if she says it to georgia shes ungrateful and a brat. if she says it to her boyfriend shes telling other people too much. can yall make up your mind

@AnekoAkabane69

Жыл бұрын

@@winterrrrrrr telling a boyfriend whom I've heard she cheated on, is one thing. Telling a bunch of strangers at a place you WORK is a different story, not only strangers/guests, but also her employers and co-workers got to hear her "venting" as well. All while her mother was in the room, the fact you're even trying to justify her actions 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

@winterrrrrrr

Жыл бұрын

@@AnekoAkabane69 you have literally not even watched the show. you have no context.

What episode is this

I love Ginny character. Idk what yall talking abt

I really understand Ginny, and some people say that she is a teenage and it's difficult for her to accept what Georgia did or keep doing, but this was to much for Georgia, even unfair, if Georgia lose the custody of her children (when she was a teenager)then Ginny would be mad because of that, she would say that she did not care about them and other popular phrases for that case, so....unfair for Georgia, she really fight for her children

The poem is funny 😂

It's muted

My mother would kill me if I did this

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

She would kill you for expressing yourself and wanting to have your voice heard? Yikes..

@randomgeekcrap

Жыл бұрын

@@YanAsims yeah she would murder me on the spot for someone who's very emotional Gorgia handled this very well

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

@@randomgeekcrapidk… because she clearly didn’t understand the point of the poem as she continued to shame ginny for thenpiem

@serenitysubs933

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, ginny looked like she wanted to cry the minute georgia came in. She never wanted her to hear that poem and obviously it was written before they made up

@anotherpotterhead1201

Жыл бұрын

@@YanAsims Mhm. Georgia just continued to make it abt herself, not actually listening to ginny and acknowledging how much pain she was in till she found out abt the self harming. I dont rlly like how ppl attacked ginny for this when she was literally just saying how she felt. Ginnys trauma is constantly getting invalidated i swear smh

To. Everyone that’s hating Ginny she is a teenager she couldn’t face everything ❤

Which season and episode?

@Dana-xn6dv

Жыл бұрын

Season 2 ep 5

Ep. No. ?

Episode?

@Dana-xn6dv

Жыл бұрын

Season 2 ap 5 i think

I LOVE GEORGIA

those comments are giving me a headache. everyone saying "i WISH i had a mother like georgia" is seriously concerning. not only is she a murderer, but she constantly puts the weight of her actions on ginny. ginny KNOWS that georgia did it to protect her, but she never asked to bear the burden of murder. georgia is making her responsible for her actions and it is not fair. i feel like the scene where georgia is about to set up ginny's teacher and tells ginny "i would anything for you" and ginny answers "that's horrible to put this on me" is also very relevant. knowing georgia took someone's life and was ready to ruin her teacher's life FOR GINNY is actually making her guilty and powerless. moreover ginny tried SEVERAL TIMES to mention serious topics with georgia and she's almost never met with answers and understanding. georgia always switches subjects back to light-hearted topics and completely disregards ginny's feelings. im not sure if you all would actually like a mother who's a dismissive criminal or if you just never watched the show and simply judge based on shorts...

Is there a name for this certain type of poem/delivery?

Half of this season was all about Ginny whining and overreacting. I can't stand this character 😭 .I skipped many scenes because of her

@realestsienna

Жыл бұрын

shut up omggg

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

Whining and overreacting orrr are you just not understanding what she’s saying at all?

@Mohamood_jama

Жыл бұрын

@@YanAsims she is just weak 🤣🤣.maybe you can relate to her

@ryleeashton6245

Жыл бұрын

How is she overreacting her mom legit murdered someone like how is that even relatable

@YanAsims

Жыл бұрын

@@Mohamood_jama you thought you ate that so hard💀

I feel like people that don't like Ginny understand what REAL trauma is or not having good parents. Ginnys problems are valid ofc. Georgia killed someone and made mistakes. But instead of trying to understand why her mom is the way she is. She just attacks and internalizes things instead of having good communication. Georgia isn't perfect, no parent is. But she's a hell of a mom. So while this poem was good. I feel for Georgia, cuz shes a lot like me and others that went through real shit but tries their best with all they know. Ginny simply takes on dumb things then lashes out when they go bad. Instead of trying to better her mental health and her relationship with family.

i dont care what people say. this poem was so impactful and georgia totally deserved it. you are all have tour opinions because your parents are strict, THATS IT. georgia may be loosy goosy BUT SHE IS A HORRIBLE MOM. she expects her 16 year old to keep in the fact that she murdered two poeple because of her? thats not something you can take likely. you all are saying she is overreacting like what??????? she killed TWO people, ginny has every right to be afraid of her mother. yall are so shortsighted

@fungenie9046

11 ай бұрын

And this is coming from someone with a really laidback and chill mother so no, it's not because I have strict parents.

@atadbitahistory9660

10 ай бұрын

People keep overlooking how many of the things Georgia actually does can be traumatising and painful for her kids because everybody decided it was cool to snack talk teenagers.

I never understood Ginny and actually kind of hated her until this scene. Now I kind of understand, even if I still don't fully agree.

She is an inspiration, for me im gonna recite a poem tmrw🥹💗

@comedygold8055

8 ай бұрын

Good for you❤❤ hope it goes well

Slam poetry conventions are a plague but the acting here, underneath the usual slam poetry reading bullshit was superb.

1:56

These things tend to be really cringy so going into this i was scared that it would but it totally wasn't

This scene broke me. Georgia was doing so much for Ginny, just to hear her true opinion of her was that she burdens her, and is a horrid being, and a murderer, and nothing more to her. But on the other hand as a person who self harmed herself I know the pent up emotions, pent up energy that u have and the desire to get them out but not being able to because Ur trying to stop hurting yourself. She was broken, and didn't want to break her mother, but did because she'd been needing a release... I cried after this scene coz besides d race difference I relate completely to this character...

Geeze why does she SCREAMS out her poem?? I had the lower the volume! 😂

@chayimvu2769

11 ай бұрын

It’s called passion bitch 🙄

I can understand why Ginny feel this and everything but just one thing which i didn't like is calling her mom monster infront of everyone and especially when her mom was right there

I felt the second hand embarrassment not Gonna lie , this is such a touchy topic

Most of the time I can't stand Ginny... but this poem was amazing!!

Bro this is so awkward.

I’m gonna steal this for my english class😂 RIP georgia i feel bad 4 her

I'm so happy Ginny got to do this. A lot of the fandom is full of people that shouldn't be parents. Hating on Ginny and worshiping Georgia. Y'all have no critical thinking skills.

@Xsara24

Жыл бұрын

I agree like I love Georgia but I hate how some Georgia fans make georgia become this saint and hate on Ginny… they are both really well written characters and it’s okay to love them both. And I think Ginny improved a lot this season character wise.

@zoc.6922

Жыл бұрын

@@the.earthlyaquarius you just proved my point about having no critical thinking skills 😂

@the.earthlyaquarius

Жыл бұрын

@@zoc.6922 How? She is referring to Scarlett O'Hara and racism, naturally this is tied to race. There are multiple ways to interpret the poem but this one makes the most sense since it's already hinted.

@Xsara24

Жыл бұрын

@@the.earthlyaquarius no she never did… tf

@Xsara24

Жыл бұрын

@@the.earthlyaquarius she called her mum a monster coz she murdered someone

Certain people are saying Ginny is allowed to feel how she wants which agree but to a certain point especially when it came to her personal life and feelings. But at some point we also have to draw the line and stop playing the blame game. As child you shouldn’t have to juggle some of your parents problems but at the same time when Georgia was trying to be just her mother and keep her shelter from HER personal background Ginny still took it upon herself to dig deeper into her moms past. Georgia herself told Ginny to stop because the skeletons in her closet wasn’t nice. Ginny brought a lot of stuff on herself when it came to having “trauma” from her MOTHER and blamed Georgia. Ginny used Georgia as an excuse in a lot of her problems SOME she created herself. Ginny was an asshole not just to her mother but also to her friends. Even when SHE was in the wrong somehow she still made it about herself instead of taking accountability at times Ginny was a selfish individual.

I LOVE Ginny and I hate the fact that people who watch Ginny and Georgia will never fully comprehend what Ginny was attempting to say. This poem was a cry for help. She didn’t write this poem with malicious intent. Ginny wrote it so she could articulate her feelings instead of physically harming herself. The fact that so many people don’t understand this is alarming and they should not even watch the show if they don’t understand. Secondly, this poem wasn’t even about Georgia. It was about Ginny and her feelings and how she wants to process them. Ginny is aware that she isn’t a saint, but she is also aware that her mother is either. The fact that so many viewers still see Georgia as one is very telling. Ginny recognises that and she wants to change, she doesn’t want to be like her mother. Now, in saying that, Ginny is well aware and grateful for all that Georgia has done for her and Austin and especially since Georgia told her in the car scene in a previous episode, but imagine being in her shoes. Finding out that your own mother, the person who was been there for you from conception, murdered somebody BECAUSE of you (yes Kenny was molesting her but the point still stands). Now your mother may go to jail for it and you’re the main reason as to why she committed the murder. Not very simple. Ginny is writing about how she wants and needs to change, especially after finding out what her mother did. She doesn’t like the way she acted in the past and she doesn’t want that behaviour to carry on in the future. Ginny has recognised her flaw and wants to change whilst some people (namely Georgia) don’t want to. Finally, Ginny has tried to talk to her mother. Many times in-fact. But Georgia will always dismiss it and act as if nothing has happened. This is shown when Georgia does believe in therapy for her and her two children (when they all so badly need it) and when she finally goes to therapy, she doesn’t even listen to what her daughter is saying or tries to understand where she is coming from. This poem is the only way Ginny can show what she’s feeling. Dang, sorry for the essay, but i am just really passionate about Ginny. She is a complex character and I won’t argue with the fact that season 1 Ginny was significantly worse than season 2. But after season 2, i feel as if people need to change their minds about her.

i had to stop watching this the first time i watched it and i seriously have never had to do that while watching something and trust me i watch a lot. I feel ginny in this scene on a level i cant even begin to explain. i want to thank the writers for going out of their way to truly depict depression, Its not pretty so all the people villanizing ginny can fuck right off. I'm sorry peoples mental illness is hard for you to witness but imagine living with it. remember this the next time you say you are an ally for mental illness, you might be but when the going gets tough it disappears, that's not real allyship

@eyeseeme3

Жыл бұрын

This!!

@ladytesha1

Жыл бұрын

I love this, mentally Health isn't pretty and this show, shows it all

Comment section kids backing ginny and parents feeling georgias pain.

"And i become the Monster i was born from" Damnnn😢😭

I didn't get ginny pov as much as Georgia's... Ginny had her struggles of constantly moving around, not being able to settle in one place, not being able to make friends and so on... It lead to self harming, having a hard time making the correct decision. Before, All she provided with was a small part of Georgia's past. As a teen knowing that her mom killed her stepfather is for sure triggering information for her. It's not something small, Georgia did drop a bomb at once, so it might be overwhelming for her. Although her words and actions were hurtful and annoying (sometimes) Think about it people might say something which we may not mean to say or the choice of words might go wrong. And at some point, we realise it and we learn from the past to become a better person. And it was shown as the episode progressed to the end. Georgia was a teen back then when she had ginny, and on top of that she was struggling in all ways keep her daughter and her alive. She wasn't financial stable neither mentally. Obviously her life was unguided without affection from her parent, growing up with stepfather's sexual abuse. She would definitely tries to make ginny's life better in every way possible even if it cost her life, she was ready. Her methods of protections weren't through right ways, obviously not murder. But she was mentally unstable with lots of things happening around her.She might've been in an overwhelmed phase to act like so. She learned to use weapons in order to protect herself( you will definitely get it)... Again, later on when she came to know that all along her mother knew about her stepdad's action and chosen keep it silent. How betrayed and helpless might have Georgia felt... And again, she was never free from all this... Always being caution and aware like she said in order to keep a step in advance, if she was an emotionless idiotic person like people says ( she was a bad mother not caring about her daughter) then half of what ginny is having wouldn't be there. when last she thought she was going to have something it all got ruined. the last murder was unnecessary even though she did it on sympathy, she was in no place to kill him. It probably might not make sense to everyone but it's just my opinion. (sorry for my poor English!)

Ginny is an annoying brat and i kinda hate her but 'I inherit the sin and become the monster I was born from' is a really good line. Actually, the entire poem slays but i can kinda relate that line.

i mean if she wanted it to rhyme she could’ve said “and i became the monster i always had within” or sumthin like that 🤷‍♀️ but i love the actingfrom toni and brianne, you can tell both of them look emotionally hurt and the way toni portrayed the lines are really sentimental

Ooof the urge to give ginny a groundbreaking slap

What Georgia did was wrong. But to say she becomes a monster because of her mother is way preaching. It's funny cause this teenagers always trying to find their identity and if it's bad choices or not peaches or roses, they blamed it on the parents. If it's good, it's from their struggle, strength. So I guess I am one of the few people who will never be able to understand Ginny and let alone empathizing with her situation. To be direct here, she used Georgia as he emotional outlets whenever she wants to. Never trying to be accountable for the choices she makes. And proceeds to let Georgia shoulder everything under the context that she's broken because Georgia makes her so. It's bs. What amazing to me is, i was expecting Georgia to have mental breakdown or mental health issues for everything she went through, including Ginny's treatment. I guess from this poem Ginny is better off without Georgia. I know viewers would like to see that because Ginny won't be able to survive shit. But Georgia won't be able to survive too without Ginny because her childrens are her life. That's why she went all out to protect them. The healthiest way is honestly for both of them to go separate ways. And then we will see who else Ginny wants to put the blame on

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