Kobe Melo and TMac not getting mentioned in the all time bag conversation is crazy to me they did whatever they wanted for years on offense

@adamfeliciano6321

8 ай бұрын

I never thought I’d see the day lol

@acmeoneconnect

8 ай бұрын

Facts

@MrClubdjaz

8 ай бұрын

Big facts, having a bag is a lot about skill and Kobe had the most skill by far

@jethuy2

8 ай бұрын

@@MrClubdjaznot in the way you thinking , a “bag” usually meaning dribble moves…Kobe foot work , basketball iq, back to the basket game, quickness, etc is what he is known for. Melo played bully ball , back to the basket , mid range, etc, and tmac out of all three I would say is the closest to elite dribbling skill, but once again, he is known for his all around skill set to get open shots, quickness, length, and etc. non of those guys were known to be dribbling phenomenons and crafty with the ball.

@jethuy2

8 ай бұрын

Matter of fact I’ll throw Paul Pierce in for having a bag

“If he miss it’s the balls fault….the rim trippin” Pure facts🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@bankrollbeezyb

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@t-god2439

2 ай бұрын

🤣 I hate playing with players like that 🤣

It’s Kobe, I witnessed Kobe score every possible way, his finishing abilities was elite, his mid range from posting up to shooting off the dribble was elite, his 3 was good but when he was on which was often his 3 was elite. Kobe can post finish and shoot plus the shot making watch his 60 point game vs NY best offensive display ever

@Romeferlano

8 ай бұрын

Left foot right foot ... million moves ur right my guy

@Ariel-2255

8 ай бұрын

Talk that Talk!!! People don’t understand! This is an easy answer!

@anthonylewis9267

8 ай бұрын

Kobe was elite skill wise

@2six9

8 ай бұрын

Real talk we are FANS of the game and may be passionate about the sport, however, these dudes PLAYED against these guys. I think their opinion are more valuable than most of the comments here.

@d-jones3853

5 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯 I agree it’s Kobe

Definitely Kyrie, he can shoot any shot at anytime, can finish with either hand both equally effective. Actually utilizes a lot of the tricks in his bag too more often than most players by reading the defense and reacting accordingly.

Not talking about Kobe when it comes to “bag” is not valid

Kys bag is crazy. Post ups, triple threat, floaters, left hand, right hand. Mid range, 3 point, deep range, and the dopest part is he can do it in no dribbles, 3 dribbles or less, and unlimited. Which is a testament to his footwork and pace with the ball.

@macmannie1113

8 ай бұрын

🖤🔥🔥🔥

@theartofcompetition5965

8 ай бұрын

Agree he could do more than kobe using skill kobe cam do more than kyrie using height and athleticism

Baron is underrated he was one of the first 200lb guards moving like he was moving 🗣️💯👏🏿👏🏿

@edwinafamefuna4383

8 ай бұрын

Definitely

@troy8325

8 ай бұрын

My pick also

@jarrensleezluis3878

7 ай бұрын

Steve franchise

@nathanieljenkins1368

5 ай бұрын

@@jarrensleezluis3878thank you bruh I was just about to say that, ppl be acting like the franchise is just a movie character or somthin lol

Kyrie is in a league of his own all-time when it comes to his bag. Which makes it even more hilarious that he was cooking random dudes dressed up as Uncle Drew 😂😂😂

@GJG_3

8 ай бұрын

Nah he's in Kobe's league. Bag isnt just about handles.

@mofethegreat

8 ай бұрын

@Gabriel-ld9hn and kyrie has every single back from floaters with either hand, jelly with either hand, jump hooks, etc.

@1OnlyBxnds

8 ай бұрын

@@GJG_3He in his own tier above Kobe no disrespect to mamba but He’s(Bean) said it him self he is complete all around

@Book.of.Treason

8 ай бұрын

@@GJG_3kyrie can literally do anything when it comes to scoring

@makesmartTROYces

8 ай бұрын

Post-game top

Kyrie for sure ! he can do anything he wants and has counters for anything when he gets going

@KxngKUDA

8 ай бұрын

Shumpert said it best: "Kyrie is the only player [in NBA history] that plays defense on offense." Meaning he plays completely off instinct, and let's YOU dictate how he gives it to you. He has a counter for literally ANYTHING you can think of.

@KxngKUDA

8 ай бұрын

Honorable mention from that cloth: Jamal Crawford. Same deal, except he did have his safety move to always come back to (the double BTB). Sidenote: Kyrie is also the only legendary ball handler without a signature move

@darnellwilliams8783

8 ай бұрын

​@@KxngKUDAnah I can't let yall lie you can't tell the story of basketball without mentioning Allen Iverson 😊

@reembright4231

8 ай бұрын

I approve this message 👍🏾

@terellwhite3361

8 ай бұрын

He can do anything

Joe Johnson definitely had a bag

@BrklynBread

8 ай бұрын

Good one. Joe Johnson is up there

@jarielgonzalez3516

8 ай бұрын

For damn sure

@potatopoison1130

8 ай бұрын

He was cooking in the Big3

@edwinafamefuna4383

8 ай бұрын

Facts

The fact that Pistol Pete forced the league to create so many dribbling rules shows how dope he was

kyrie hands down no question. like he really can hoop, pure game

@ChargedGuilty-xp1cx

8 ай бұрын

Facts him and Paul Geroge my favorite

SGA has a really unique bag and Pace that he plays with, Paul George like a unicorn out there too with the way he moves and gets it done at 6'9.

@thirtyacres7504

8 ай бұрын

The way Paul George can get low like a 6'3" point guard is incredible. Surprised he doesn't have major back problems lol.

@KingDavidTBE

8 ай бұрын

​@@thirtyacres7504odee

@Rapdurrrr

8 ай бұрын

Top 5 bag

@SekeU85

8 ай бұрын

You do know Shai is 6’6 right? Y’all kill me in these comment sections lol where did you get that info from?

@hoop-nationmedia9287

8 ай бұрын

@@SekeU85 Paul George 6'9

Gil so funny man unintentionally, instead of just saying he has great body control he said “he knows how to move his hands individually with his feet”😭😭😭

@kidmoore17

8 ай бұрын

There’s a difference

@jonoak

8 ай бұрын

You mean coordination

@StettyT

8 ай бұрын

@@jonoak I mean body control like I said

@jonoak

8 ай бұрын

@StettyT not what he was trying to say he said moving all in motion at the right time=coordination for the simple minded

@StettyT

8 ай бұрын

@@jonoak that’s exactly what he was trying to say tho, I’m an actual athlete I REALLY relate

Gils comments on the 1987 dunk contests got me crying 😂😂

@caldwell2253

8 ай бұрын

Facts, facts, facts thooo, is it not facts🤷🏾🤣

@dewdesi

8 ай бұрын

​@caldwell2253 it was the greatest contest up until that time period and then people started doing different stuff over time... Its supposed to be that way

@qdigggs

4 ай бұрын

So I guess getting 10 tries to dunk and getting a 50 is better ?😂

I can't believe y'all didn't mention TMac or Penny. Penny especially with the bounce type handles he had and passes

@cresswellchipman2768

8 ай бұрын

Even Derrick Rose!!

@mikesmalls8260

8 ай бұрын

They never shout my boy penny out man😡

Kyrie for sure but people sleep on Paul George he literally can do everything

@keithwisdom1663

8 ай бұрын

Paul or curry. Kyrie curry kd. Kyrie for entertainment the best

@TOKYO9AIN

8 ай бұрын

@@keithwisdom1663 curry is excellent at 1 skill he is far ahead of everyone on that skill but it’s only one .

@TOKYO9AIN

8 ай бұрын

@@keithwisdom1663 and it’s entertainment to you becasue you don’t have to guard it .

@thirtyacres7504

8 ай бұрын

That's true. And PG played great defense all of his career like MJ and Kobe.

@lokey987

8 ай бұрын

T mac

Baron Davis with CHARLOTTE Hornets was sooo nasty back in the day... Used to love going to see him play. Hated to see him go. He would have been a beast in the league today

@brandon504boi7

8 ай бұрын

Baron Davis was Nice ASF 💯💯💯

The bag I use to love was Andrew Toney and Tim Hardaway. People don't know it, but Earvin "Magic" Johnson stole one of Toney's moves, it was the fake crossover move driving to the cup, Toney created that move. So what I did, because I couldn't totally duplicate Hardaway's crossover move, I added my own twist to it. Hardaway's move consisted of taking the ball through his legs from the front on the herky jerk move. I tried it but couldn't perfect that move, however, I could go through my legs dribbling from the rear, so what I would do is do the Toney fake crossover, and dribble through my legs, fake left and come back quickly to the right, and if you didn't go for the fake I would dart past the defender going left. This was great pure basketball talk.

NOBODY SAYING PAUL GEORGE!!!???? IM LOST!!! He has one of the deepest bags🔥💯💯

@itsefielder

8 ай бұрын

PAUL GEORGE IS UNDERRATED

@FieryMaQ

8 ай бұрын

On my soul!!!!

@pdcook83

4 ай бұрын

Overrated

I know it's probably not popular opinion but Steve Franchise Francis. He had a lot in the bag too.

@duronbryant5921

8 ай бұрын

Right, Steph Marbury was deep 💯

Dunking in the 80’s was judge by not only creativity, but they prioritized how high the dunker was jumping and how hard they were throwing it down/thru aka thrust.

@t99155

8 ай бұрын

Facts 💯💪 like Dominique

@masculinitymatters9030

8 ай бұрын

They weren't missing dunks like they do now...previous generations of players were really good at the things they were good at. I'm tired of Gil discrediting the previous generation when he himself admitted to have a limited game. Speed is his excuse.

Surprised they didn’t mention Rafer Alston. He didn’t go into his bag much in the league but still worth a mention

@ernestsilvers9403

8 ай бұрын

His bag was craaaazzzyyyyy

Lmbo!!! A, Gil a fool bruh!!! “It’s a Windmill!!” 😂😂😂

KY and before him it was Kobe. I’ll die saying for a guard to add a big man Skillset will always put them over any player. Guards aren’t supposed to have post work, post up etc in the paint they’re trained to slash float pass or cut. MJ started that shit Kobe carried it and now KY got it. Idc what anybody says KY has all 5 levels of scoring in his bag plus that shit you do In video games.

@thirtyacres7504

8 ай бұрын

This. Carmelo was technically a small-forward, but he played more like a shooting guard. He had to have a high skillset which includes posting up and bully ball. Charles Barkley is another at only 6'5" playing small-forward and he'd post you up and out rebound centers. Besides Kyrie, MJ, and Kobe, Carmelo (although a small-forward) had all 5 levels of scoring. Kyrie is the most impressive because he's only 6'1" to 6'2".

@GJG_3

8 ай бұрын

Arenas flip flops all the time. They turned this video into who has the best handles, meaning KD shouldn't have been mentioned. It should have been Kobe, Kyrie, MJ, Melo, KD, Tmac.

@GJG_3

8 ай бұрын

@@thirtyacres7504 I always wondered why Melo never had those 30+ point seasons like Kobe and MJ. He was a better pure shooter than even KD. Has the best looking shot I've ever seen. I still cant believe he never averaged 30. Only 1 60 pt game. He gets bashed for being selfish yet he shot the ball less than Lebron and KD.

@pandabear1576

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@GJG_3KD has much better handles than Melo

@chuckk2fuego76

8 ай бұрын

@@GJG_3 he get bashed cause he Melo and always took the money. He could of been on 3 championship contending teams but he picked money each time. Then had to get humbled by the league thinking he was still the ball hog from NY. it was beautiful to watch cause he’s one of the dumbest players with that caliber of talent/Skill. Picked money each time when regardless he was gone get paid the guy was Carmelo smh…he must’ve forgot who he was cause he didn’t bet on himself he stayed in NY knowing they wasn’t competing for shit but higher draft picks. He won’t be remembered how he think he will be which is sad because he should.

I think Mellos intentional fundamental skills should put him in the convo. Even though the moves may not be as flashy, he put everything he worked on on display. A great 1 on 1 option

@GJG_3

8 ай бұрын

They didn't call him Hezo Melo for nothing

Salute Gil's Arena ....Gotta Love It 💎....

The Disrespect they give A.I is absolutely insane. B Jennings was nice when he played but their Allen Iverson slander is 🤡ish

@dewdesi

8 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯

@wadetewano

8 ай бұрын

They did mention that his main weapon was taken away from him , so he had to start again and adjust. There’s love there

@Cgep96

8 ай бұрын

Brandon was not nice. He was a horrid defender on top of being arguably the most inefficient scorer in the league.

@khalilcook3018

8 ай бұрын

@@wadetewano it was taken because nobody could stop it which was real corny by the NBA smh

@khalilcook3018

8 ай бұрын

@@Cgep96 yea he scored 55 as a rookie. You're right he was terrible smh lol. You do watch Basketball right?!

Curry has one of the most underrated bags because a lot of people see him coming off screens and just shooting threes but the dude can finish with both hands, dribble with both hands easy, and has some moves he pulls out your like wtf

@derrickhoward1543

8 ай бұрын

Bro exactly. His bag is way deeper than KD's.

@deepanshu4866

8 ай бұрын

Bro they targetting Steph fans u still don't get it

@derrickhoward1543

8 ай бұрын

@@deepanshu4866 They hate on him

@derrickhoward1543

8 ай бұрын

@@Papellxhase You've lost your mind. Steph bag is much deeper than Crawford's. His bag is deeper than TMacs & PG. His bag is also deeper than Kyrie's. This man said Jamal Crawford. Dawg if you don't get outta here with this bs. No knock on Jamal. He has a deep bag too but c'mon man. Kobe has the deepest bag in history by the way. I noticed you didn't mention him. Smh

@TREZZYism

8 ай бұрын

​@@derrickhoward1543steph does not have a deeper bag than ky stop the cap

Penny Hardaway bag was deep

@kiddaim323

8 ай бұрын

No it wasn’t

@thirtyacres7504

8 ай бұрын

Penny was fun to watch. If it were not for injuries. He was only 25 when his first major injury occurred. And he was never the same again. One of the most athletic players to ever play. He would get to the basket with ease. Him and Grant Hill. Big "What Ifs."

@duronbryant5921

8 ай бұрын

Only true ballers would know that 💯

@lewisalba7825

8 ай бұрын

​@@kiddaim323yes it was,post game ,handle get to the basket at will and could shoot lol you didn't see him in his prime I'm guessing

@willjones437

8 ай бұрын

@@kiddaim323couldn’t have seen a young Penny in Orlando when he was in his prime..

I have to throw Deron Williams in here as well! Utah Deron and early nets Deron was nastyyyy with that crossover, had the float game, had a back to basket game, 3 game. I remember at one point it was him and CP3 fighting for best PG in the league. One of my favourite players growing up 🫢

Man Kobe bag is crazy deep from outside to post to mid to everything

Kd doesnt have a post up game. And his finsishing isnt the grear although its enough. Paul george, kyrie are the only current players that can literally do everything.

@SeddyPooh

8 ай бұрын

That’s a lie before all those injuries KD was dunking on niggas literally he just reached a level in his game where all he has to do is shoot over people the whole game

@jaybuddy5ive

8 ай бұрын

Facts those were the first 2 that came to my mind ppl sleep on PG bag

@chrissaint-louis488

8 ай бұрын

KD def got a post game. Turn around jumper water against any and everyone. I agree with u on the second statement tho

@FieryMaQ

8 ай бұрын

KD don’t really have a bag like that. Like his handles are no where near PG’s. He’s just tall.

the windmill take is gold lmao

Gil has such a great mind for ball. 1 of my favorite players growing up

Larry Bird passes was pretty dope especially with the tap touch pass

Kobe Bean Bryant. His foot work was impeccable . He played Inside and outside game with handles-He could shoot the three or pull up for mid range and would also play with his back to the basket. Up and unders and the Jordan patented fadeaway. Kobe also played defense!!!

@LeChina

8 ай бұрын

Kyrie has every move kobe has ever done and then some.

@Dipset415

8 ай бұрын

@@LeChinaexactly and is the most unique finisher at the rim ever🤙🏿

@788lakers

8 ай бұрын

@@LeChinaKobe has better range with his left hand and a better post game

@larryphillips6791

8 ай бұрын

Facts bro ! Casuals will never understand.

@thirtyacres7504

8 ай бұрын

Not over Kyrie. Kyrie's ability to score around the basket with his left hand is above all players. Left hand off the top of the backboard jumping off his right leg while playing under the rim is wizardry.

I think Kobe, Kyrie, Jordan, and Durant. I think they not only had a lot of moves, but they had a lot of counters to those moves. Those are the guys where you’re just never going to be able to really figure out on defense because you never know what they’re going to do next.

@michaelsledge3904

8 ай бұрын

This the only answer low-key. IYKYK

@a-a-rondavis9438

8 ай бұрын

Jordan, really lol? He didn't have a deep bag per say, he was just much more athletic and quicker than any guard without a zone defense and with several teams flooding the league in expansion and diluting the talent pool in that area. He had unstoppable tools, but not the biggest bag.

@dariusisfamous2840

8 ай бұрын

Durant?

@BadWolve

8 ай бұрын

Not even giving White Chocolate honorable mentions? C'monnnnn

@marvinholt8819

8 ай бұрын

@@a-a-rondavis9438 I get where you’re coming from. My argument would be that Jordan had just about every shot in the book. Spot up, step back, fadeaway, pump fake then shoot, one dribble pull up, bank shot, floater, reverse layup, etc. He had everything for any situation that was thrown at him. Then on top of that, a multitude of counters to go along with them. I think it just depends on your definition of a bag.

I always thought “having a bag” meant multiple ways of putting the ball in the bucket. Not just handles. Hakeem, Jordan , Larry, Kobe ,Tmac Kd quickly come to mind. Kyrie too, but he dont just have a handle, he got so many moves, and he can pull up anywhere , coming left or right, same with layups, 3s, middy. I wish we had more of that today. Now its just all numbers. These guys made the game amazing to watch. Now its just 3s. Shits wack af.

@chrisisslick

8 ай бұрын

Preach!

@skillethead15

8 ай бұрын

It’s everything. Handles, post moves, passing ability, shooting, athleticism… all the different ways you have to put the ball in the hoop. People just talk about handles the most because you can do so many different things when handling the ball. In today’s game Kyrie probably has the deepest bag but I don’t think we talk about Jokic enough when you combine all the different ways he can pass and his post moves. Jokic’s bag is definitely deep.

@randyjeter90

8 ай бұрын

Melo

@casualt3350

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@skillethead15I was about to write this and was looking for this comment from someone. If we’re talking “bags” as in different ways to score, plus efficiently, plus we’ve seen homie dribble and hit off-balance post fades, plus he’s an elite rebounder and passer, and at the least an average defender. That’s the definition of a bag.

MJ then Kobe have the best bags, spot up, shooting off dribble, handles, post moves and footwork, going left going right, attacking basket, playmaking, layups, dunks

@Ariel-2255

8 ай бұрын

Talk that Talk!!! Kobe did expand MJ’s bag though!

Off the court ??? Man that's why Jennings is Off the Court 😂😂

@teesmoovethagenius

8 ай бұрын

😂😂

@Rafa_AISA

8 ай бұрын

You’ve never touched the court 🤣🤣

PG-kyrie SG-Kobe/T Mac SF-melo/kd PF-cousins/ rasheed Wallace C-Hakeem/embiid

@Mattieb_23

8 ай бұрын

It was on knuckles head I think, Tyson chandler ? Maybe… but they said sheed went up for a fade and he knew it was blocked and literally mid shot he switched to the left hand and cash….

@Mattieb_23

8 ай бұрын

I went back and looked.. it’s Tyson chandler on knuckles head… about min or two in the podcast

It always amazed me about basketball that guys with the deepestest of bags and most entertaining be less unstoppable and less efficient of a scorer than someone with just one unstoppable move or a few unstoppable moves. It’s incredible when u really think about it. And no knock to the deep bags out there cuz it’s still amazing creativity skill and how they get they bread and butter

Iverson was deemed illegal cuz he knew how to carry the ball very fluidly😅 everyone carries now and even added the famous gather step

Kobe had every move in the game 🐐 the bag was unlimited

@timmcdonald9873

8 ай бұрын

And inefficient

@BuddyFlowers-li8iq

8 ай бұрын

A Jordan bag

@zaldivar2124

8 ай бұрын

@@timmcdonald9873 🖐🏼

@LAFitCoach

8 ай бұрын

@@BuddyFlowers-li8iq Jordan 2.0.

@Maxjuliann

8 ай бұрын

@@timmcdonald9873he dropped 81 points on 60% shooting goofy

Not mentioning Kobe, jordan, or tmac is wild to me

@skullyready7786

8 ай бұрын

Wade bag was better then dere if u being honest 🤷 passing dribbling Wade did it all bag wise

@davidlamar2806

8 ай бұрын

Stop

Iverson has a bag 🎒 wtf. Even with out the cross over he was crossing folks. With snatch backs, spins , in and out dribbles. Come on Gil. Iverson could score. Finish great , layup package.

@dewdesi

8 ай бұрын

Feel me, they buggin

@aries148

8 ай бұрын

Not deeper than Kyrie and Curry. Sorry.

@elijahroulhac

8 ай бұрын

@aries148 naw not deeper. No need to be sorry lol I'm saying Iverson have a bag!! Gil saying Iverson didn't. That's blasphemy

@user-hx6ij2fv2z

8 ай бұрын

Man I'm not even watching this ba anymore they bais as he'll at least be real smh

I’m looking for the 9/12 dunks were windmills comment!!! Hahahahahaha The game has definitely evolved.

If we talking total package in all aspects it’s easily Kobe. Some of the stuff he pulled off was insane. Every game you would hear a commentator in awe about the degree of difficulty some shot he took was that he made look easy.

@Ariel-2255

8 ай бұрын

Easy Call !!!!!

No one in history had a deeper bag than kobe from about 2005- 2011. He was capable of doing everything on both sides of the ball and was a good enough passer.

@larryphillips6791

8 ай бұрын

They so disrespectful bro

@seany1508hh

8 ай бұрын

MJ and kobe essentially had the same bag

@larryphillips6791

8 ай бұрын

@@seany1508hh a casual take. Former nba players, as well as non casual fans who actually watched both a lot will tell you that’s wrong. Ofc Kobe got a lot of work from mike. As well as hakeem and etc. Kobe was a better dribbler, shooter, had a wayyyy better left hand, footwork superior, passing ability, and post game was more polished and crisp. Watch more then comeback to me.

@seany1508hh

8 ай бұрын

@@larryphillips6791 im not saying they have the same tendencies, im saying they both have pretty much everything in their arsenal

@jukztv76

8 ай бұрын

​@@larryphillips6791watched them both my entire life. Kobe has the range and handles advantage, Mike has everything else

Gilbert I agree with what you are saying on the 80's dunk contest. But would you say not all windmill dunks are equal? So people just have a flair when the do it. Not everybody body's move the same way in motion so some people just look flier do the same thing. Which results in extra style point.

B Jennings Bag was crazyy . Y’all be forgetting. He was my favorite player from Hoopmixtape era

Underrated Bag is DG and PG.

Kyrie has the deepest bags. But I think Dlo has a nice bag too. A lotta finesse

@thuglife2ea424

8 ай бұрын

Yea dlo is decent I wouldn't put em in the same tier as kyrie , I was think pg 13

@ock50sify

8 ай бұрын

@@thuglife2ea424 yeah definitely not in the same tier. PG gets busy too, I wanted that OKC team to go far.

@skullyready7786

8 ай бұрын

Dat nigga can barely dunk quit it 🤣 dunks packages can be a bag

@dominiquewilson

8 ай бұрын

Kyrie has the closest bag to MICHAEL JORDAN

@derrickhoward1543

8 ай бұрын

Steph bag is much deeper than DLO. Fuck out here with this bs

Love the flowers for BD. I used to hate going against him as a Laker's fan

this set being in Gil’s HOUSE is crazy 😂

@julianprospers

5 ай бұрын

I say that every episode. Has a whole Sportscenter esque set at his crib is 🔥

Kyrie Irving hands down 💯 he arguably has the deepest bag in nba history 🔥. True definition of a walking bucket.

@nkohu

8 ай бұрын

Can’t dunk or post up

@SKTV1991

8 ай бұрын

​@@nkohuKyrie def can post up and dunks when he needs to. That has nothing to do with having a bag

@surgeonso4345

8 ай бұрын

@@nkohuKy most def can work the post.

@wysemanacc84

8 ай бұрын

I am sorry KY can ball but I cannot compare him to all those guys that were Bus drivers like AI. KY has a deep bag when you are not the focal point of a defense night in and night out. He has always been Robin and the pressure to deliver has never been on him. So this notion KY has the deepest bag is a little overrated.

@peanut-iy8ny

8 ай бұрын

@@wysemanacc84 🧢 AI and kyrie Irving is on the same level.

T-mac’s bag is massively underrated !

@oneofone_1333

8 ай бұрын

especially for his size! Tmac,Kobe,KD,Kyrie

“9 was windmills” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@trvspvrk

8 ай бұрын

shit hilarious

Somebody pls look up "Nick Van Exel's Ultimate Mixtape" dude was a underrated player in the 90s, he had a bag for sure.

KD, Kyrie, Kobe, TMac. By far the most talented players to set foot on the court

@ShakilMia-zt7xn

8 ай бұрын

And Curry

80s dunkers were judged more on hangtime and power. MJ was the first to have both but also be agile in the air.

I'm glad" B-Diddy/Boom Dizzle" Baron Davis getting respect. His game was nasty. Baron and Steve Francis was my favorite point guards in 2000s era.

Gill is funny, "9 out of 12 were windmills" LOL

Gil is a 100% right about the evolution of the game. Guy now have more freedom of expression mainly due to more spacing due to the defensive adjustment to three point line instead of the top of the key The truth is though. I see more 90s and early 20s player shining in this era than those transitioning down the other way

Kobe is the only person I’ve ever seen cross people over without dribbling. On a regular basis. His footwork, spin moves, pump fakes, handles, shooting with his left hand, dribbled left as if he was left handed…. This is the area where Kobe is the GOAT. Jordans bag impacted winning more than Kobe but Kobe is the bag GOAT.

@Ariel-2255

8 ай бұрын

Talk that Talk!!!

The same thing B said about nobody being able to guard Kyrie straight up can also be said for Steve Francis,

Josiah you're a real one for mentioning B Diddy ❤️ much love

Sebastian Telfair had a baggg 🏀🏀Stephon marbury too

Tracy McGrady. There’s nothing in the game he couldn’t do. Both sides of the ball

@chrissaint-louis488

8 ай бұрын

PG13 and exact replica with better defense

@superdupermacc9839

8 ай бұрын

Naw Tracy didn’t play no defense that’s why he never won a ring

the pistol pete love is great. He is really so underrated.

What gil said about ai and the league not being able to go side to side in crazy

MJ’s bag was CRAZY!!!! People sleep on Jordan’s handles. He wasn’t doing some of the same crazy crosses and stuff as today but his handle was hella tight. Also his counters were bananas

@brandonlee34444

8 ай бұрын

No three pointer puts him out of the convo.

@stefslyfe

8 ай бұрын

@@brandonlee34444 nobody shot threes back then. And he shot 34% for his career, same as Bron. And that’s with only attempting less than 2 per game

@MrMrnate32

8 ай бұрын

@@stefslyfethat’s a lie , many players shot 3s. He just wasn’t one of them. People act as if Reggie miller started shooting 3s after Jordan retired😂 Reggie came In the league in 87 and was a shooter. Also Mitch Richmond /chris Mullen/dennis Scott / etc to name a few Dan marleje

@stefslyfe

8 ай бұрын

@@MrMrnate32 back then you had guys who were specialists. Their sole job was to shoot (Dan Majerle, Reggie off of screens, Chris Mullen could shoot but he was also a creator and his percentage wasn’t much higher than Jordan’s) also teams offenses were such that the team might attempt 5 or 6 threes a game….THE TEAM!!!! Now guys will individually shoot 5 or 6 in a quarter. You can’t compare now to then because the game was VERY different. If the game were as free flowing and the rules were the same AND offenses played the same there’s no reason to think that Jordan wouldn’t have also had that as part of his game. But it doesn’t matter what I say because you clearly just want to be right so believe whatever you wanna believe. I’m 43 and lived through the Jordan era so I know what I saw and no amount But this or that is gonna change what I think.

Steph is so underrated under the rim. His bag is deep af. Shoots from anywhere. Can finish. And has a tremendous handle. O n he can pass n moves the best without the ball. It’s Steph for me.

@bGzzzzz

8 ай бұрын

Steph is great, but his handles and finish at the rim is nowhere near Irving’s, Curry’s advantage is his amazing cardio and quick shot release.

@rylandwells403

8 ай бұрын

@@bGzzzzzI agree with the original commenter. I think we mistake the flair kyrie plays with with technical proficiency. While I think kyrie is more creative with his dribbling, Steph is definitely more fluid and potentially even more decisive. And then when we talk about finishing at the rim, once again kyrie is more flair (with insane proficiency) and Steph is more delicate touch and as of the past several seasons, more strength. In fact, Steph has consistently had as much or more attempts in the restricted area as well as higher fg% on his finishes in those areas too compared to kyrie. But no one is really paying attention to HOW great of a finisher Steph is when kyrie is finishing with a reverse scoop layup with perfect English on the glass. They’re a very interesting study! Two different sides of the same coin

@bGzzzzz

8 ай бұрын

@@rylandwells403 - technical proficiency isn’t the same as “how deep is your arsenal”….. when we’re talking about how deep your bag of skills are it’s basically how many ways can you put the ball in the hoop. Steph has his 3pt shot and running floater, that’s about it. Kyrie has a 3pt shot, mid range fadeaway, pull up mid range, running floater, ambidextrous, reverse lay-ups, scoop shots etc etc, his bag is much deeper. The best way to determine who has a deeper bag is asking the question, who would win a 1v1, both about the same height same position, who would win?

@MacTeezy

8 ай бұрын

​@@bGzzzzzKyrie Cooking Curry In A 1v1 , It Would Be 2016 All Over Again 😂

@bGzzzzz

8 ай бұрын

@@MacTeezy - tell me about! Yet these people try to be politically correct by stating “well Steph has technical proficiency”….such muppets.

I’m on 🍄 watching this shit …I had to screenshot that damn dog to make sure I wasn’t trippen 😂😂😭😭😭😂

The pistol p shout-out was 🔥🔥🔥

The fact that Kobe never came up is criminal. Not saying he had the best bag, but it was deep ASF.

@A1God25

8 ай бұрын

The bag they’re referring to is clearly handles/dribbling. Kobe isn’t up there whatsoever when it comes to that. Y’all always trying insert Kobe into everything ever since his death & that shit is annoying.

@thezabarte1

8 ай бұрын

@@A1God25then KD shouldn’t be up there. Kyrie’s bag is so deep because with the footwork and moves that he has, he has dribble moves to go with that. Kobe had simple dribble moves that are effective. Main reason why is his footwork. Kobe has the best footwork in NBA history. Kobe has counters to counters to counters. Just look at his left hand shots, off the backboard, pivot spins, etc. dude’s a maestro. Did you his half spin pivot and adjust mid air vs the Jazz? That shit was sick I’d go 1. Kyrie 2. Kobe

@desmondmedder2635

8 ай бұрын

@@A1God25facts !!

Kyrie has the best bag of all time, but Shai has the potential to have the best bag hes taller meaning he can have post move bags too (Jordan has an underrated bag when you take in consideration his era and how ahead of his time he was compared to other players its insane no one was even close to him)

@kareemstraker8326

8 ай бұрын

Kyrie has a post move bag as well👺

@MrDiMES123

8 ай бұрын

Shai is not like that

@dandyaniel5986

8 ай бұрын

@@MrDiMES123 shai is much younger thats like comparing 2013 KY to nows KY

Bruuuuuh, a Bugatti in 90s is not faster than Bugatti today. Soooo true. Killed the goat conversation in one line.

“If kyrie miss it’s the ball fault, the rim tripping” 😂😂 straight up

Kobe, hands down.

@Ariel-2255

8 ай бұрын

Talk that Talk!!

Gilbert kept a pistol in his bag

@dremac33

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@lobolgbt1300

8 ай бұрын

And coke

Bias should always go to the 6’3”-6’6” Guards💯 Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, Gary Payton, Kobe, Andre Miller, Kyrie, Baron Davis etc Handles on the Perimeter/Deep 3…. Midrange…. Floaters… layup releases AND BULLY BALL in the post against smaller guards (hooks, fades, power throughs, etc)

On the passing aspect, Nash had a solid bag behind Pistol pete, Magic and white chocolate nem

Kobe

Iverson definitely had the deepest bag dude did all kinds of stuff literally every game was something different racked up 4 scoring titles from it and could’ve gotten more! Lexie on point to bring that up

@HahaHaha-km4sm

8 ай бұрын

His bag isn’t deeper than Irving.. better shooter, finisher, ball handler, can post you..

@iSpeakGodsWords

8 ай бұрын

@@HahaHaha-km4sm iverson was more athletic than Irving. He did in 1 step what takes Kyrie 3.

@Ant-Tee

8 ай бұрын

@@HahaHaha-km4sm nobody finished like I. Finished he laid up over anybody and did it the most got 4 scoring titles easy They changed the entire league defense and still didn’t stop em. I’ll put ky behind him

Na that 9/12 dunks being windmills is hilarious 😂😅 8:17 it ain’t change brah 😂

Kristi Tolliver has some of the most amazing game you will ever see from a guard in any form of basketball! A real life hooper!!!

@ThatBo03

8 ай бұрын

She's nice! Chelsea Gray too.

Stop tripping Gil Kyrie Bag Top Tier 😂😂

KD because of his point guard background A lot of people don’t know that KD was actually a point guard back in HS until his 5 inch growth spurt in one summer. That explains his handles

@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1

8 ай бұрын

He’s bag is crazy but not the best

It’s hard to judge a bag from the 90s and earlier since the refs didn’t let them carry, travel, or ‘zero step’ gather while allowing defenses to hand check. It’s so easy scoring one on one these days. I’m in my mid 40s and it’s so much easier to score. I can basically score at will against hoopers half my age. So, ranking bags has to be done with some context.

@reubengermain9771

8 ай бұрын

Facts, I'm 44, and was cooking kids in NYC in the summer (and half the speed I had at 30), playing with these new rules is a joke for 90's teens. Step back, gather step b.s is unfair...and you know we all got that fade away from MJ so posting them up all day is BBQ chicken with extra sauce.

D.Rose and his jump shot improved every year before injury

Kyrie is the best talent with the ball...Steph..same thing...but deepest bag...KD, Paul George, Kawhi, Middleton, Lebron...they all can handle, post-up, finish with both hands, mid-range...Devin Booker is getting there..Dame dope too!

@lewisalba7825

8 ай бұрын

Middleton 😅hell no ...others yes you buggin

@Butta838

8 ай бұрын

@lewisalba7825 go look at his complete game... he not a star like the others but his skill set is top notch

@lewisalba7825

8 ай бұрын

@@Butta838 yeah we talking deepest bag ...he's pretty simple

@Butta838

8 ай бұрын

@lewisalba7825 maybe so, but again, complete game... there aren't many players who do all of those things in a game.

@Kd20022

8 ай бұрын

Kyrie can do everything u listed

tmac had the deepest bag in nba history, he could literally do everything offensively at 6’9 , crazy handle , post game , excellent passer n shooter , with alien hops

@HahaHaha-km4sm

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, bag isn’t bigger than Kobe’s

@jukztv76

8 ай бұрын

Kobe does all the same, but with better footwork pumpfakes and hangtime

@GJG_3

8 ай бұрын

​@@jukztv76 And a better shooter. I'd put Melo in the convo too. That hezi is different.

@yet1332

8 ай бұрын

@@jukztv76 dude honestly I watched Kobe growing up so I’m already knowing what he can do , but I always felt Tmac was more talented , he had a longer wing span , was more athletic than Kobe 😂42 inch vert compared to Kobe’s 38 inch vert , Tmac had more hangtime , especially in his jumpers, and his footwork was just as good as Kobe’s n Jordan’s, go watch the highlights

@yet1332

8 ай бұрын

@@HahaHaha-km4sm what can Kobe do that Tmac can’t do ? This man Tmac literally created moves like the hesi pull up had his own sauce n Kobe literally mirrored Jordan’s game

How can you not mention Pete Maravich? He didn't just have a bag, he had a wizards chest of moves, passes and shots and he did it all with basically half-a-heart.

@FanaticForFanta

7 ай бұрын

Good for his time but can’t be compared today

@anonymouslakernerd7214

7 ай бұрын

When they said “Pistol Pete” did you think they were referring to someone else?

Gil needs his flowers 🎉. He gets embarrassed when he is talked about lol. He’s definitely one of the alltime greats

SGA HAS A BAG, I didn’t notice until last season, he scored about 40 and every move was different. Kyrie has a Bag for sure. Top 5 Bags right now KD Kyrie Curry SGA J. Murray

@randyjeter90

8 ай бұрын

U high ja morant gotta deeper bag than Jamal Murray

@chrisisslick

8 ай бұрын

​@@randyjeter90false, ja is just more athletic and quicker.

@randyjeter90

8 ай бұрын

@@chrisisslick the only thing Jamal can do better is shoot 3s lmao I can’t even take your comment seriously

@chrisisslick

8 ай бұрын

@@randyjeter90 take it quite seriously. You've given no argument. People that watch objectively know what I'm saying.

Kyrie got more tools than anyone...

Bd , Darren I literally just started watching this and we are talking about the same people. Rod Strickland. Earl the pearl

Tatum in todays game has a goddamn deep bag, can score in all ways and get past his defender in a multitude of ways. Additionally, he's a great defender and is developing his playmaking every year. If he could only improve his consistency a little bit, he would be a certified top20 legend in the making.