Giant Steps using the Symmetrical Diminished
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I love pushing boundaries. Being just a prog-rock guitarist who leans heavily on classical music, a tune like Giant Steps is beyond my improvisational abilities, but that's what I'm here for: the challenge. I may never be a great jazz improviser, but I'll get somewhere new and maybe different in a way that sounds good to me. In the end though, do what makes you happy. That's what people respond to the most anyway. You love playing and it show3s. ^-^
@rickjensen2717
Жыл бұрын
Play 'Coltrain patterns' which are the notes: 1, 2, 3 and 5 of each chord first and then switch the pattern aboud a bit, e.g. 1, 3, 4 and 5; 1, 2, 5, and 3. That's pretty much all he did. You need good technique to play this up to speed but it'll sound great. Just start slowly with each chord at a time.
This changes everything! thank you sir
As a long-time guitar player but jazz student I could improv diminished and whole tone over a static tonal center. I only guessed at and anticipated that this could be applicable over changes like these and actually simplify the improv process a bit. Very cool, thank you!
Man you are playing some great lines
You’re a great teacher. Thank you so much for putting in all the work.
@RichieZellon
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated 🙏
I have really enjoyed books of counterpoint and harmony in the past, this fit right in right on.
Great stuff
Awesome! Really cool sound, I definitely gotta practice this
Great. Someone really needed to study this tune, thanks
Absolutely loved it.
Very nice... thanks for sharing !
At last, something I can play on Giant Steps apart from the usual arps, triads and Coltrane patterns!
This is my new knowledge from you, using scale that can fit to chord changes, thank you ❤️
Great lesson! Your lesson subject matter is spot on.
i like your lesson ; you show the symmetrical diminished idea very well over the chord progressions .... You are a great Teacher . Thank You .
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Manu, much appreciated!
Richie, I agree with the comment that the diminished scale is so helpful but must not be overused.
Thank you Ritchie. You have a fantastic channel!
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
Great playing and lesson,...many thanks for your all the effort
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it Jake!
The best lesson I've ever seen from Giant Steps! ❤️😀
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Walter!
Love it!
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric!
a great vid Richy Z.
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy!
I made it all the way through. Thanks, Richie.
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Tom! You survived...One guy said his head exploded! 🤣
Still with you Richie. ¡Me encanta esto!
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Que bueno!
Yeah,man!
Hahaha I loved this. i have been only doing coltrane changes for the last 2 months, its my coltrane months. ✌️
@aliyarici
2 жыл бұрын
But basics never hurt😁
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Beautiful! New subscriber, how about some jazz comp videos?
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, here are some comp videos... kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXmOmMWjhNK1oM4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJ-n2MeSmLPLdrQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJ-n2MeSmLPLdrQ.html
He truly understands Jazz & Music Thery 🎶...Thanks, and keep up the good work .... enjoy your sound, somewhat reverb, but natural? What are you using? I remember Johnny Smith at his shop in Colorado, my father worked at Johnny's for years... and t remember him playing without amplifier? I still like the natural sound of Archtops.....
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John...I am using a Sadowsky Jim Hall through a Henriksen amp.
Thank you Richie,other players i have listen too that do this is..Django Reinhardt and the classical player leo Brouwer also ,Ralph Towner...:-) Be Well...:-)
that's really cool. i was trying to view it in the same, but i can't hear it. it just doesn't registar in my head. so I don't know how to make it ring.
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it, it's not for everyone. Thanks for your feedback!
@aurora3655
2 жыл бұрын
@@RichieZellon i like playing outside, and squeak honk 70s stuff lol!
my head just exploded...
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Ouch!
Cool hat? Where can I get one?
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
In the Andes mountains of Peru
I think it sounds great. As you say, discretion is so important. That said I can really hear it.
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, glad you like it!
on the requested , do we like this? What else we got to do with our time ?
@RichieZellon
Жыл бұрын
If it's sarcasm, its not very constructive...
@grantgre
Жыл бұрын
@@RichieZellon you mean I didn’t praise your efforts. ok but I’m a old man I’m a little bit tired and sometimes what comes out of my mouth is like what I really feel and the truth is I don’t have anything else to do but try to learn something new.
@RichieZellon
Жыл бұрын
@@grantgre no I didn't mean at all that I wanted you to praise my efforts. Just say what you don't like and why. That would be welcome criticism for us who put a lot of time into creating these videos. That way we can gauge what viewers like or not like so we can take it in consideration for future videos.
@grantgre
Жыл бұрын
@@RichieZellon I don’t really have any criticism. It is what it is you know.
I would never suggest starting on a major7 over a dominate chord because you end up with three half steps in a row. Now, if you want to change the structure of the song to suit a major7, fine, but then you're not playing the song.
@RichieZellon
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you get the 3 half steps in a row? As far as starting on a maj7 over a dominant chord, it's not functioning as a maj7...it's a chromatic approach on the "and" of the previous beat resolving to 1. This is meant to be played at a high tempo, usually in 8th notes which resolve quickly. Nonetheless, I believe you missed the entire point of this lesson! The use of the diminished over several non diminished chords is obviously not to follow the rules of conventional functional harmony. It's called playing "outside" and is meant to occasionally clash and be dissonant, although it always resolves. This concept is purposely designed to create ongoing "tension and release" and NOT playing through the changes to the letter. There are countless examples by the post-bop masters applying exactly what I've described. And before I forget...what do you mean you are not playing the song, if you do this?...It's jazz improvisation...so we are re-inventing the song. What we do and don't do in jazz, has to do with the context we are playing in and various other factors that are determined by your level and experience as a musician. That said, this is Coltrane we are dealing with here...in other words, post bop...not swing or dixieland!
@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721
5 ай бұрын
"you end up with three half steps in a row" Ever hear of bebop scale?
@RichieZellon
5 ай бұрын
There is no such scale...that's a misnomer, even Barry Harris will tell you...and what does it have to do with this video??
@cousinotes
4 ай бұрын
Years ago, a sax player in New Orleans told me 2 things several times. He’d say get a half step out and play diminished, and often he’d say hit a bad note on a weak beat. It certainly led to me playing some interesting stuff. A trick I think to help get to this kind of thing. It did help. Thanks for your insight and clarity on this diminished business.