Giant Momentum Wheel Gets Even Bigger (And MUCH Heavier!)
Massive lumps of wood, lots and lots of steel, all designed to go round and round - what an interesting and exciting design project. (Can I get an 'A' level in design yet, please?)
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The fact it spun for so long with one push is a testament to your engineering ability, to accurate measuring and careful thought. You'd say it was luck but many of us would disagree. What a wonderful contraption!
@johncourtneidge
Жыл бұрын
And strategically-placed clamping pliers for balance.
I never would've thought that the wheel would turn for so long!
I'm a woodworker and a land surveyor. I have a passion for geometry and precision manual work. When you got those bolts through 3 steel plates, 6 inches of wood and 3 more steel plates by banging with a hammer, you had me hooked. Subscribed.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Hugo. Welcome aboard : - )
I like how there's just 5 minutes of the wheel spinning.
@lizzard3699
Жыл бұрын
same hahahaha
@TheDavidcrockett
Жыл бұрын
Christmas lights and spinning like watching a fire crackling
Love seeing Tim having his own Industrial Revolution.
Whatever device this is going to be connected to has to be very safe, once that's spinning these no stopping it in a rush lol and if it ever falls off the axle you will have to collect it from the USA
I love that you are single handedly restarting the Industrial Revolution!
I think the coolest part about this project is the fact you can even up the outside just by rotating the wheel with a planer/sander mounted at a spot to just shave off any access material along the outside!! This thing is turning out so cool!
@chieltl
Жыл бұрын
Agree. and then also balancing, so remove extra where it is heavier. Probably not necessary, but will it counteract vibrations?
@nathanlucas6465
Жыл бұрын
@@chieltl depends how fast its going to be spinning I guess. If its spinning with any sort of speed, it will want to be somewhere near balanced. Depending how far out it is, this could be achieved either by drilling small holes in it or adding screws
@nathanlucas6465
Жыл бұрын
A planer or sander would be a far safer way. My first thought was a chainsaw 😆
@Aheitchoo
Жыл бұрын
I bet it can be cut with all sharp tool as if it was a lathe
@perstaffanlundgren
Жыл бұрын
About planning the outside- I think the preferred method would be to mark the preferred diameter on the boutf sides while spinning and then plane the excess to the lines non turning, ican be hard to keep the planner tool still while rotating and there are definitely a risk for humps to be magnified. Also keep in mind that the grain orientation on the pecies will wary ,thus resulting in ship out and deep cutting when you go against the grain. There for you may have to plane from different directions. When the weel is true round you can sand it with angel grinder sanding block or belt sander. This is for surface Finnish doe, rounding up with sand paper based Method will be very time consuming proces.
This contraption looks awesome, it kinda reminds me of a watermill. Also 23 minutes, that's fantastic. Can't wait to see the finished contraption.
Very nice engineering, perfect balance as well. I have built and fitted 5 water wheels over the last 20 years not including one's I have restored. normally different designs from your one and axle drive either steel or timber bearings (greenheart). When we balance or even up the outside of the wheel I have used a big router fixed down and the wheel turned slowly. I have been watching your channel and have really enjoyed them. Your railway brought a good few smiles. Note: I also am involved in narrow gauge (30")as the engineer (Tweeddale Heritage Railway) I look forward to the next videos
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Peter. Pleaselet me know if I'm doing things wrong - I've zero experience and my knowledge always arrives after the event : - )
I have to confess I watched all the way to the end. Another great job Tim 👍
You take home shop projects to a new level. Current metal prices put that wheel worth $$$$. I’m glad I’m subscribed to your channel.
Legend has it that to this day, the wheel still continues to spin
Your restraint to not just waller out the holes with a file is admirable. Need a big spud wrench for the next one though. :p
@bonusflaps1749
Жыл бұрын
Please define “waller”.
@Rebar77_real
Жыл бұрын
@@bonusflaps1749 To widen or wear out a hole to a larger state of being. Cheers.
@bonusflaps1749
Жыл бұрын
@@Rebar77_real Thank you. I hadn't heard that term and a google search wasn't helpful. Have a good day.
Spin the wheel, mark the bottom then spin again. See if it lands in the same place. After you balance it, mark evenly spaced sections with numbers. Place your bets!
@drekfletch
Жыл бұрын
The "heavy" spoke is the one opposite the extra weight of the clamps, or possibly the one just to the clockwise of that.
@Everfalling
Жыл бұрын
@@drekfletch yup. you can track it by watching the wheels speed. it'll slow down the most when the heavy part is heading to the top and speed up once it's passed the top most point. like you said it seems the heavy end is opposite those clamps.
Tim: Props to you for finishing that wheel assembly by yourself...👍
That is one serious piece of engineering I think a lot of people don’t release the amount of work it takes just to get it to this stage looking forward to next week now
I could never be bored with this. Your accent and "good-natured" commentary is a breath of fresh air. I'd love to be with you making this stuff. Cheers and good health - - -Rick from New Zealand.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rick : - )
Wow, congratulations. That wheel is quite amazing, and quite the accomplishment.
Absolutely amazed. I watched the full wheel spin out of respect for your expertise and patience. Inspirational.
Thank you for spinning the wheel & letting it stop in real time. It really shows the power of momentum. I'm guessing you will true up the wheel similar to how Matthias Wandel cleaned up & balanced his large wooden bandsaw.
Holy moly - was getting more and more excited until the last part was in - what a beauty!
I've done some calculations and if that falls off @ 1000 RPM it will be going at 284 MPH LOL it's likely to knock down a house in one blow
Mighty fine wheel you have there!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly Ben : - )
This is about the phyical dimension of a whole-log chipper I saw once in a pulp mill, (back when such a thing was allowed). It was steel, weighed 12 tons and rotated at 1000 rpm. It would chip a 8 ft.x12" log in about one second. Awesome
Great achievement Tim. Now what are you going to call this new invention. You've got to give it a name 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Stunned... This belongs in a museum.
I have that exact same circular saw, and it is unstoppable. I got it for parts to repair my dad's saw. It had been sitting on top a junk pile in the rain for six months. My dad looked at it and told me to try plugging it in. Fired right up, and I've been using it for ten years now.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Mine's at least 40 years old!
Love how you're basically reinventing the industrial revolution
This is serious Industrial Engineering, IKB would be proud, Tim.
The design and manufacture of this great wheel helps me see how our predecessors were able, with perhaps simple tools, to make the huge water wheels that drove grain mills all over the U.S., a craft I'm sure they learned from you engineering geniuses across the pond. Thanks for the unintended history lesson.
And round and round it goes, there's so much energy in that wheel.
@cprgreaves
Жыл бұрын
There is about as much energy in that spin as Tim's mass mutiplied by two feet!
watching that wheel turn from start to finish is what the internet was invented for, aside from the other thing of course.
Having a pedantic moment here. I thought felloe was pronounced "felly" because I had read George Sturt's book The Wheelwright's Shop. But when I looked it up, both pronunciations are listed. Also, it's late in the game, so maybe this isn't helpful, but in the design of flywheels, there are some formulas to help. The danger associated with spinning it too fast is real. Machiner's Handbook has a section on the design of flywheels. I can scan some pages if you're interested. The safe speed of a cast iron flywheel 6 ft in diameter made up of segments is 247 RPM. A safety factor of 10 is commonly used. But all of this is for cast iron, not timber with steel straps. So Proceed cautiously. Doubling the speed of rotation quadruples the stresses at the rim of the flywheel.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
I'm aiming for really low speed - if I can
The more I see of this build, the more I get the idea that this whole charcoal thing is just an elaborate plan to have a good excuse to build all these marvellous machines.
@seesaw66
Жыл бұрын
Actually I was beginning to forget the reason why we were building the wheel. Of course it’s for grinding charcoal 😅 all great fun!
As fascinating as always. When smoothing out the outside, just think of it like a wood lathe and an electric sander to make the surface flat and circular. Look forward to the next video (with bells on).
This is blissfully epic! Thanks for your story telling abilities and skills at never giving up... Cheers!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
Great project! Tip, for any future projects: grind a taper on the end of the bolts. It will make assembly so much easier.
That is an awesome project. Love it. Very nice that it spins slow and for so long. That is definitely a Giant Momentum Wheel.
Please don’t ever ask to skip until the end ever again. That whole video was brilliant, hats off to you Tim & Co.
That's a beautiful thing. Back in the day I was involved in a contemporary art project that used a 5 ton flywheel powered up by a motorcycle minus the rear fender. We made a triangular affair that held the rear of the motorcycle off the floor via the axle and when flipped towards the flywheel pressed the rear wheel of the motorcycle against the flywheel. The motorcycle went through the gears and got the flywheel going at a tremendous pace - I can't remember the actual RPMs''s but it was pretty fast. Once up to speed the motorcycle was pushed forward away from the flywheel. The flywheel was cast in two halves and one half was 5# heavier than the other. It rotated so fast that at speed it made the frame of the flywheel hop due to the uneven weight,. We had to learn to restrict the speed so as not to destroy the gallery floor. The thing spun for hours. It was as awesome as it was scary. I looked it up, it was 3 tons. But still...
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
5 tons?!
I sat and watched the whole thing with a cup of tea. It was very soothing somehow. I love what you've built, and really appreciate your joy in the use of high and low tech to find a frugal solution.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
My guess is that once the rim is smoothed it will be close enough to balanced, as all the other components are so accurately cut and assembled. Thinking about big flywheels on beam engines, they don't need to turn particularly quickly, just enough to provide the required momentum. Splendid work!
That wheel is bending the space time continuum of your barn Tim.
good job.....wow all those blind holes...
I agree. The layout and assembly takes alot of drive. I give you an "ATTABOY". Look forward to see the next edition.
I recon that wheel is pretty well balanced as it is. I admire your perseverance Tim. You’re A “ wheely good fellow” 😂
Very nicely done sir! It took a bunch of math to get that right. I look forward to the time when it's completed. It will be very excited to see it being used to work. Thank you for sharing this with us. Best regards, Bob from Virginia USA
Wow that band saw is an absolute beast of a machine, I don't think my big chainsaw would have cut those timbers as fast even with a new chain
That was truly amazing. Even if it took longer to stop I’d have watched it all the way to the end. Cheers from Naples, Florida.
Definitely spun longer than I expected. Creaks and moans far more than I expected too. As tight as you built it I thought it'd be silent.
That is one heck of a feat of engineering for a home project! Congratulations Tim!
Now you will have to take it all apart to stain and oil the woodwork and to undercoat and gloss paint the steel work. I would recommend painting the steel work on the right hand side of the wheel emerald green with gold coach lines and on the left hand side signal red with silver coach lines. Yes, there is some method in my madness! Green paint to represent "Starboard" or the right hand side of the wheel and Red paint to represent "Port" or the left hand side of the wheel. That way if you continue to use the wheel as a power take off for pulleys & belts, chains & sprockets, etc. having painted items to match the driven implement will mean that everything is being driven off the desired section of shaft and rotating in the correct direction.
I can see an American KZread channel building this only to go up a mountain and roll it down to see how far it'll go or if it can slice a car in half. Good on you for finding a practical use. Written and edited and the wheel is still turning.👍🏻
Brilliant! Massive. That flywheel is so big, that I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was capable of changing The Earth's rotational speed. I anticipate that the nights will grow shorter and the days longer Real Soon Now! Cheers, Chris
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Damn! You've discovered my evil plan : - )
Holly Cow its awesome looking, medieval, steampunkt, all of the above!
Bravo! I have made longer drills by machining a cylinder on the drill, then a length of rod, drill a matching hole in that & add a smaller perpendicular hole to let the gases out. I have always brazed them to reduce the chance of distortion with welding.
Thanks Tim, I can't wait to see this marvelous piece of engineering put into use, you are a Mastercraftsman!
My first time at this channel. Thar's got some ruddy good bearin's in there lad. Thoroughly enjoyed
I'm constantly blown away by what you manage to accomplish with wood and a plasma cutter!
This has been a fun build to watch! I'm impressed by how balanced the wheel is right from the get go. Those are some pretty slick bearings and the alignment is spot-on. Yes, it's a very heavy wheel, but if there were any significant friction it wouldn't have spun for so long. Nice work!
When the wheel is rotating, it sounds like there are some screws not quite tight enough, the squeaking indicates that there is some movement in a screw joint while the wheel tries to deform under it's own weight.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
You're right, there are lots of nuts missing - I need to go and buy some..
@Henning_S.
Жыл бұрын
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 after tightening everything you can repeat the test, it will probably rotate much longer if the deforming friction is eliminated
I wonder if the wood need to be kept away from the rain and water in order for the balancing to last. But I guess it’ll be under your roof so it’ll be ok. Well done :)
@stephencoles3664
Жыл бұрын
In a similar vein, I was wondering if the wood pieces would dry, or naturally be different densities and that would affect the balance of it as well.
Very satisfying, enjoyed every rev, the clicking was v. therapeutic.
It looks wheely good. Love seeing how your plans come together. Wonderful engineering. It's joyful to keep coming back to see how you're progressing with each project.
"What has God fraught?" Tim makes a Juggernaut Stupa to go on the Jarrow March. Damn I am impressed by your build skills and fearlessness.
This is so awesome! I am really looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Thanks for sharing.
You must feel a lot of satisfaction with such a precise construction on such a large scale! WELL DONE!
Just one word - IMPRESSIVE!
Fantastic, Tim. That spinning Wheel of Fortune had me hypnotised. An amazing piece of engineering and almost perfectly balanced. Well done. Its a credit to your skills.
That is one hell of a wheel. What an engineering project. Well done mate.
Your a genius we think it’s wonderful what you have achieved you must be so proud my husband think’s your so clever and interesting with what your going to come up with next.Wishing you well and a beautiful Christmas and a wonderful New Year and love and blessings.Love to you both and Sandra hope she is getting better all the time. Love to all the animals and most of the Donkeys and Horses 🐎.and the two wonderful dogs.🧑🎄🧑🎄🎡🎡🎡🎡🐴🐴🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🐎🐎🐎🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Just brilliant, as the song goes, well done everyone. Your dedication and craft are hugely admirable and inspiring.
Extremely impressive! It's awesome how good you are!!
Just awesome Tim, and beautiful.
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 23:07 Balancing, you can use the fact-ish that the heaviest part of the wheel probably stops at the lowest part of the wheel (at least for larger un-balances). Then you can either add a small weight to the top of the wheel, or shave off some material on the bottom of the wheel. Note that it is NOT GUARANTEED that the heaviest part stops at the lowest point, it can be a little before or after that point, especially when the wheel is nearly balanced, so check carefully first.
Very well done! I’m very impressed with that wheel! That takes a lot of skill to make something like that. It reminds me of something from the 1800’s. This wheel and that fantastic rail engine are very impressive builds. Well done sir!
That is SO COOL!! I loved watching it slow down and the pick up speed again toward the end. Bravo, sir! Don't sell your talents short -- you should be very proud of this feat and all the skill it took to achieve!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jennifer. If it ever grinds charcoal, I'll be proud then : - )
the fact that he builds all this to make his work easier (and funnier) its just mesmerizing. DIY industrial revolution [backyard project]
You so good at building 'Steam Punk' tools reminds me of Captain Nemo and the Nautilus.
Watched it twice already. Love it. If you know how to woodturn you can scrape or gouge that round quite easily. Not saying any more because I know you will already have it sorted. Thank you so much for all your vlogs.
I have your next channel idea. A Live Wheel cam. 24 hours of Wheel!
seeing it all assembled wwas honestly something so impressive, a proper good job of engineering! looked a lot like an old fashioned water wheel, maybe you should give that a try in the future if you can? very well done Tim! :))
If farming doesn't work out, you could consider going into small-scale custom manufacturing.
That is one incredible piece of home engineering! My hat is off to you, Sir! What an impressive and fascinating project!
Poetry in motion.......watching that wheel spin is truly hypnotic. I guess rounding it up to true will be easy too - you won't need a lathe :)
What a piece of artwork .
Congratulations - really enjoyed the whole project and how you implemented. It is good that you have a free running assembly which will help with the balancing procedure. If I could make a suggestion. It would be to do the initial balancing by ‘adding weight’ rather than removing it, to enable you to calculate accurately any removal - otherwise you end up chasing your tail. In fact the add weight method can be the final method too.
1:22 "help it keep going, whatever i ask it to do"...no problem Tim, it will keep going even if you dont ask it to. i just fear for the neighbouring village.
Very cool Momentum wheel, it reminds me of something that you might have seen coming from the Edwardian Era, will be interesting to see how this will be utilized.
‘Backyard Mechaniking’, at its very finest.
They should contract you to make the new wheel for "The Price Is Right" They may have to make it a 2 hour long show though, given how long it spins!
@DieDae
Жыл бұрын
That would require the contestants to be able to spin the damn thing lol
@Squibbleses
Жыл бұрын
@@DieDae 😂Going to have to re-imagine the show as a strong-man competition I suppose
Tim, easy to see it's out of balance with the varying speed, cheers
A perfect example of the saying, "Don't force it. Use a bigger hammer."
Now that ladies and Gentleman is what is know as SKILL !
Lovely engineering there Tim, well done 👍🏻 I’m thinking you’ve got it covered but a cage might be handy to prevent slips n trips becoming snaps n chops… see what I did there 😉
5 minutes? No, it was more than 7 minutes before it was still! Impressive!
One or two more pairs of vice grips Tim! Nice work boys. I have my idea on rounding the outside perfectly with the axle. 2 arms, one each side, from the axle out to the edge. A cross plate from arm to arm for holding a wood lathe tool and a couple legs to the floor. All tempory but youll get a perfectly round wheel. I think someone just spinning it by hand would be enough power for cutting the edge down round. Cheers 🇨🇦
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, James. A third of the grain would be running in the wrong direction though..
@jamesmisener3006
Жыл бұрын
My suggestion is only to round off the wood only. To have the wheel perfectly round before you move forward with the test of the build. Making something round that big is not easy by hand. Love your passion and work.
Awesome job Tim!
A turning, turnable, rotating wheel assembly. Ok? Which begs the question, "what's the plan?"