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@Ionisus

2 ай бұрын

nope

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@@Ionisus Too late

even GB 2 done a nice job with setting up Vigo. and to be honest, GB 2 gets too bad a rap and needs some love. 😿

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

It's fine and I'm okay with it existing, definitely didn't need anything after that

@rojelio011

2 ай бұрын

I LOVE GB2 !!! It was a great sequel movie...and actually way more scarier than the 1st :D

@Nick_Nightingale

2 ай бұрын

Banging soundtrack

@BRIANOCONNOR2003

2 ай бұрын

I don't think it was that bad It was alright

@blueblur2273

Ай бұрын

​​@@rojelio011I'll double down on your comment and say GB2 is definitely a better film than the 1st one. It's literally a refinement of the 1st film with a better score and soundtrack, better special effects, scarier scenes and ghosts, better action pieces, better use of its overall cast and stronger storytelling.

This is the way I felt since GB: Afterlife. That sentimental scene with Egon's ghost made me cry and all, but it was not enough for me to let slide all of the many BIG problems that movie had.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it was just okay to me, would've been fine if they used Afterlife as a send-off for the franchise just to make up for the abysmal 2016 remake, but again they didn't know when to stop

The original Ghostbusters is a classic this new crap is horrible idk why they can't leave classics alone and get new ideas

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Nostalgia is a powerful drug unfortunately

@bluecorp8557

2 ай бұрын

Learn how to use periods.

@BATDAN_92

2 ай бұрын

​@@bluecorp8557 .🩸

@JacobPaul-ix7oc

2 ай бұрын

​@@REELSHIFT It's not about nostalgia, though. You would consider yourself a "movie lover", right? And as such, I would think you would view movies as being "art". What is happening in Hollywood with all the remakes, reboots and sequels is a bit more nuanced than you realize. (From BBC Arts) In Munich, Adolf Hitler staged two exhibitions which defined the way we think about modern art. The Great German Art show displayed the artists he approved of, the Degenerate Art show displayed the artists he despised. In these two exhibitions, mounted side by side in adjacent galleries, *the battle lines were drawn between traditionalism and modernism.* It’s a battle that’s still being fought today. Do you like art that’s realistic and reassuring? Or do you prefer art that’s experimental or disturbing? Maybe you like a bit of both - in which case, you’re like a lot of people who went to see these shows. The Nazis wanted people to see both shows, but they didn’t want people to make up their own minds. The idea was to see the Degenerate Art show, and see how German art had been debased - and then see the Great German Art show, and see how the Nazis has redeemed it. (From Wikipedia) "Bread and circuses" (or bread and games; from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metonymic phrase referring to *superficial appeasement.* It is attributed to Juvenal (Satires, Satire X), a Roman poet active in the late first and early second century AD, and is used commonly in cultural, particularly political, contexts. In a political context, the phrase means to generate public approval, *not by excellence* in public service or public policy, but by diversion, distraction, *or by satisfying the most immediate or base requirements of a populace,* by offering a palliative: for example food (bread) or *entertainment (circuses).* Juvenal originally used it to decry the "selfishness" of common people and their neglect of wider concerns. The phrase implies a population's erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority. This phrase originates from Rome in Satire X of the Roman satirical poet Juvenal (c. 100 AD). In context, the Latin panem et circenses (bread and circuses) identifies the only remaining interest of a Roman *populace that no longer cares for its historical birthright of political involvement.* Here Juvenal displays his contempt for the *declining heroism* of contemporary Romans, using a range of different themes, *including lust for power* and desire for old age to illustrate his argument. Juvenal here makes reference to the Roman practice of providing free wheat to Roman citizens as well as *costly circus games and other forms of entertainment as a means of gaining political power.* The Annona (grain dole) was begun under the instigation of the aristocratic popularis politician Gaius Sempronius Gracchus in 123 BC; *it remained an object of political contention until it was taken under the control of the autocratic Roman emperors.* (From BigThink dot com) Step one of the "Four steps for ideological subversion" (Yuri Bezmenov, 1985) Demoralization - this is a process which can take about 15-30 years to perform (a generation). *During this stage, the moral fibre and integrity of the country is put into question, thereby creating doubt in the minds of the people. To do so, manipulation of the media and academia is required to influence young people.* As the younger generation embraces new values, such as Marxism and Leninism, the older generation slowly loses control simply through attrition. Again, true facts no longer matter during this stage, but rather creating perceptions are of paramount importance. Communism and Religion Abolished - all religious and metaphysics is rejected. Engels and Lenin agreed that religion was a drug or “spiritual booze” and must be combated. To them, atheism put into practice meant *a “forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”* ---As someone once said in movie that divided its fanbase a few years back, "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." Eliminating American exceptionalism, fundamental change of national identity, structural deconstruction of foundational principles, elimination of religion. *Embedding a new societal design upon the psyche of generations through ideological academia, peer pressure by elites upon academics and society to convince that prior values were inherently flawed, racist, prejudiced etc. National identity is diluted with aspersions toward historical references. National History is re-written, re-defined, and molded to fit the new intended behavioral model and create the new values.* ---Art is history. Established IP like Ghostbusters, Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones (and so on) are a part of our national, cultural/social and (for millions of people) individual history. Movie sequels and reboots made for the mythical "modern audience" are a form of rewriting that history to fit Marxist ideologies. Don't assume I am going on some "anti-woke" rant here, I am just explaining what is happening. On many levels, it would appear as though Liberals are trying to turn the US and Western civilization into a Communist society. One thing they are doing is providing superficial appeasement to a small, vocal minority on social media through entertainment. As we see time and time again, providing an excellent end product is not the main concern, but rather promoting "THE MESSAGE" of "Diversity, Inclusion, Equity, Feminism and LGBTQ normalization". Our old heroes are deconstructed and turned into hollow shells of what they once were, with new heroes being boring, annoying, preachy self-inserts and Mary Sues. Heroism is once again on the decline. The traditional art is being/has been debased by Liberals, and the Government wants you to see that. You are not supposed to like these new movies (or the ideologies behind them), but dislike them and look for a way to return to the traditional way of doing things. The way this will be accomplished is through a revolutionary change of power in which a new Emperor/Fuhrer takes control from the Liberals to bring glory back to the State. #45, soon to be #47, is the man who has been chosen to lead the revolution in the name of God and Country. What is the “7 Mountains Mandate” (Dominionism/Dominion Theology)? Supposedly there are 7 “mountains” of global society-Arts and Entertainment, Education, Economy, Family, Government and Military, Media and Religion. (Note: The US voting machines are called “Dominion”.) According to this false teaching, by conquering these 7 “mountains”, the Kingdom of God will be established. Look up US Public Law 102 dash 14 and the "Seven Laws of Noah", then you will understand what this is leading up to.

I don't really have much to say tbh. The trailer didnt sell me on it, so I have literally zero investment. I'll just stick to the first 2 Ghostbusters and my headcanon third movie (Also known as the Ghostbusters videogame from 2009) lol.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah that's pretty much all this franchise needed to be

@Peppers19781978

2 ай бұрын

The trailers showed way too much. 99% of Bill Murray's scenes were in the trailers. No joke. There also were like 4 scenes in the trailers not in the movie, which was very odd.

Afterlife should have been it. Didn’t need a sequel.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

The main problem for Ghostbusters as a franchise is that the story was over at the end of the 1984 original. Peter Venkman had gone on a character arc, starting as a womanizing jokester to being deathly quiet at the sight of the charred devil dog that had once been Dana Barrett. Ghostbusters ‘84 needed no follow up. I don’t like the sequel, but I know that a lot of people grew up with it. Some movies should just remain one and done.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more 👏

@centrevezgaming4862

2 ай бұрын

Just like the fast and furious , Resident Evil movies the same with Underworld, police academy. When you’re talking about rabid hardcore fan bases who devoured them to no end the studios will keep making more of them this is one franchise will constantly make the same mistakes over and over again by hitting the nostalgia drum hard . Come by the following movies in the franchise that the remaining original cast may not be around in the next twenty years.

@MVP_MAGAZINE

2 ай бұрын

I’ve always said that about venkman and his character arc even the concept of there only being four ghostbusters after they saved the world. Why wouldn’t they be a franchise? Especially since that was venkmans original idea ?

@MVP_MAGAZINE

2 ай бұрын

I’ve always said that about venkman and his character arc even the concept of there only being four ghostbusters after they saved the world. Why wouldn’t they be a franchise? Especially since that was venkmans original idea ?

@jasonethridge4506

2 ай бұрын

Listen, the reason why you think it's a bad movie because you don't like McKenna Grace. She did everything to make you happy and this is the thanks she's getting? Honestly you're ungrateful. When Sony pictures make a movie, you'd better be glad that they released it. Because if it hadn't been for them we wouldn't have gotten Ghostbusters or any movie. Nobody cares about what you think. Either you get with the program or don't watch it at all. Nobody wants to hear you whining. If you've got a problem with that, save it for those who cares.​@@REELSHIFT

I saw it last night and yeah I agree. It was pure cringe and the acting was just plain terrible. This was the worst Ghostbusters film overall. Even GB2 was infinitely better than Frozen Empire!

06:40 it was always meant to only be one or two movies and that is how it should have stayed.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

💯

They really should have looked to the Real Ghostbusters cartoon for inspiration for the future of the franchise. You have younger Ghostbusters... why not have the Boogeyman be the villain of this movie and draw from the two episodes featuring him? Sandman could have been awesome. Samhain and a Halloween theme? I'll probably see this movie next week but yeah reviews aren't getting me excited for it.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I think they definitely could have pulled this reboot off if they went about it in a slightly different way. Real Ghostbusters inspired film could've been something.

Afterlife is so much better than Frozen Empire

Agreed. I'm not a huge Ghostbusters fan, but I was absolutely disappointed with this movie.

Apart from the cringe, the main problem in this film is that there were waaay too many characters.

The problem is that the new cast don't come from nothing and learn along the way in the first or second reboot movie. They literally have no arcs.

This story was a boring peace of sh*t for the first 1.5 hours and then an anti climactic end

100% accurate review Joe! I waited until I saw the film because you do give spoilers in your reviews but this was completely correct & I agree with you completely on this.

Spot on.... At this point your friend analogy at the very end is sad but true.

I’m worried That the franchise will go downhill again they need to make something good for it

It’s sad to hear that this second movie was a flop. Ghostbusters is so beloved to me since a child and I would watch it anytime it was on and still enjoy it just the same as I did as when I first watched both movies…so when I heard about Afterlife I was like…I don’t know… especially how I see Hollyweird using loved IPs and just making a mess of them.. So when I finally did see Afterlife and all the surprises of the old cast coming back…omg I couldn’t stop my excitement…but I love the fact that they paid a nice tribute to Harold Ramis…I cried so much at the end when you got a last glimpse of him…very touching…I love it…..so I was hoping they would make this new movie work into something special too but hearing this…I’ll give a pass…I love Paul Rudd too, so it’s a shame they didn’t give him much to work in this…

Thank you for doing this review, saw this movie and it was garbage, ghostbusters didn’t needed any more sequels after ghostbusters 2, the first 2 and the video game are all I need, afterlife was oh ok, not brilliant, I liked the hell dogs development and had its moments, this was pathetic and embarrassing, I’m done going to the movies, hollywood has been a joke without a punchline for a long time, I stick to old movies

It's funny nobody notice that they kind of borrowed or ripped off the SPC containment breach story , at a certain point in the movie. If you watched it and you know what the SPC is you'll notice it now.

I only ever really enjoyed the first one and the second one. I didn’t care for after life. I heard this one is in a more family friendly atmosphere.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Sort of. Idk it just felt like such a pieced together last minute type of movie to me

@zachhall8043

2 ай бұрын

The look of surprise on my face😐

I know it's a late reply, saw this movie in theaters last month or so. Hardly did anybody show up, just myself, my uncle, brother, and my mom. And a two loving couple was the only ones watching it. I had plans on skipping this movie, but it was all my brother's idea, so I had force myself to watch it.... Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire..... Uhhh.... It's horrible. I grew up with the classics, I was born in the 2000's, my parents actually introduced me the originals to me, I still love it till this day. The opening to frozen empire was fine, to be fair, but it goes down south from there. It feels more like a teen comedy / drama than ghostbusters to me, Too many characters and it does takes a while for something exciting happens. But it last like what..... 9mins? or 10mins? the whole New york freezes over for a short period of time, and the villain is easily defeated. Which honestly, I like some ideas from it, the villain design looks cool, but what a waste of opportunity. This gets a 1/10

I swear inside of 3 years they'll remake Short Circuit, Police Academy, and Young Guns.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Not young guns! I love those movies lol

@TheBrisco1234

2 ай бұрын

Don’t give them anymore ideas on franchises they can ruin 😆

@FiveDORRA

Ай бұрын

Inside 3 years they'll make fast n furious number 350 ,and the fanboys will claim it's " THE BESTEST THING EVER"

Watching the movie felt like I was watching an episode of the real ghostbusters.. But an episode of the real ghostbusters didn’t have too much storylines as this one did. You could cut one of them out and you will still get the same story. Even though there was a lot going on, it felt like their many side plots didn’t bring much. Not to mention there wasn’t much of a build up like the first and second one; I think the only build ups were present was the characters talking about how much of a big threat the ghost was.. that was it. I’ll admit, I was hype for this movie and I thought it was awesome. But after the hype went down, I thought “frozen empire was okay I guess” If they ever do make more films, I’m gonna keep my expectations low.

*Spoiler alert* As someone who absolutely loved Afterlife and all previous Ghostbuster movies with a passion, I was terribly disappointed in this lazily written and poorly executed sequel. It felt like the movie needed an extra 30-45 minutes to truly develop the storyline and characters but never got there. Bill Murray was palpably unenthusiastic and Dan Akroyd was okay at best. The billionaire philanthropist, Winston Zeddemore, created a state-of-the-art ghost jail and research facility, and then apparently proceeded to hire a child and stereotypical science nerd to run the place, while simultaneously forgetting to install a security system, hire a guard, or install a backup power generation system which the entire place relied on to keep ghosts in their cells. The villain, "Garraka", was too graphic for younger audience members, while also lacking any real depth as a bad guy. Its always puzzling that these ancient souls existed before the earliest known languages, but somehow manage to speak modern English at the same time. The final battle resulted in most of the characters being frozen, yet miraculously reanimating just in time for the final battle. The containment system which blew up and released every ghost ever caught was also somehow turned into the trap that caught Garraka. No real conclusion as to what happened to all the other ghosts that were released as we are to assume they were just magically trapped at the same time even though they were assumedly spread out all over the tristate area. To wrap this up, even though I could go on, the manner in which Phoebe melted down brass using a handheld torch and then proceeded to pour it over the particle accelerator without any collateral damage to any of the other sensitive components was laughably dumb and completely unbelievable. Honestly, the rare moments I caught myself enjoying this movie were the moments when Kumail would seemingly join me in my disbelief of the nonsense they were trying to sell us. His comedic performance saved this movie from being a total failure, even though his character somehow mastering the ancient magic skill of being a fire master went from not believing in it at all, to him struggling to light a candle, to defeating Garraka within the span of a few hours. I truly hope the franchise doesn't become another Marvel-esque cash-grab, but if this film was any clue, I have low expectations for future sequels but hope they will use the same formula as Afterlife if they do.

I remember over a decade ago thinking that Paul Rudd would make a good GB. But as a ... comedian like he is in other movies? So weird that these productions casted him and just put him on the back burner as a bland unfunny character. There's so much you could do in a new Ghostbusters, but despite all that -- a true GBIII at its core should be a story about a new crew of ADULTS taking up the mantle -- played by the funniest comedians of the day. What's so hard about that? 🤦

Frozen Empire is a ‘modern’ remake of Afterlife… this is what modern writers can do, as opposed to the afterlife love letter. Almost like it’s the Disney+ version…

@lutherheggs451

2 ай бұрын

They were literally written by the same person....Jason Reitman wrote both Afterlife and Frozen Empire.

Has anyone else noticed that the poster for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire looks a lot like the poster for Star Wars Last Jedi? It has a similar white & grayish background & the characters are wearing all red like the cloaks on The Last Jedi promotional poster. That was the divisive 2nd movie to the safe legacy sequel or "SOFT REBOOT" (I hate that term) to that franchise. Now this is the devisive legacy sequel to the safe soft reboot or "requel" to this franchise. I hope they don't do like Star Wars & so many other franchises where the 3rd one becomes damage control & they try to create a hybrid between the safe requel & the divisive sequel to the safe requel & upset fans more! 😫I certainly hope that's not what happens in this case but knowing the formula these uncreative, lazy Hollywood filmmakers in Hollywood seem to all follow, I'm afraid that's what's coming. 🎬📽😢

Afterlife was kinda fun to watch. I skipped the 2016 dumpster fire. Not really into going to the movies much anymore. I’m no longer the target audience.

@REELSHIFT , the difference in quality between “afterlife” and “frozen empire” is change of director and screenwriters ; “😐”.

@cjqcresent292

2 ай бұрын

Same people tho, just switched positions.

Makes me think of the terminator movies first 2 great the others not so much

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah that's actually a great comparison, two franchises that should've ended in the 80s/90s

Sounds like it is still better than the one that shall not be mentioned, and luckily/hopefully never mentioned in the franchise.

THE ONLY PROBLEM with these movies is now it’s for kids. Original was adult comedy

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it does feel like they are turning into something it is not

@bluecorp8557

2 ай бұрын

Not even. They don’t know what market to go for. The jokes are for kids yet they make sex jokes including a literal sex room. There’s a lesbian love interest because of course the main girl has to be gay.

@MiXVoy

2 ай бұрын

And still they can't adapt the Extreme Ghostbusters

i dont feel like ghostbusters is even that great but good lord these remakes are awefull

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I love the first one always will, but its very much a product of the 80s

The film making itself was bad, the script, directing , editing and some camera work, lack of outside shots, jump cuts all over the place. It all made it feel like a low budget TV series for like 95% of the movie just being inside set pieces . You have a few scenes at the start and end that you feel 'ok i can see this cost some money' but that's like 20 minutes of the film. The bloated cast and nostalgia bait is the primary cause. I think they need Christopher Landon to direct, that would be my choice. Scott Lobdell to write. I'd ask scott to write up a script with fewer characters but more human antagonism, like have there be a government division trying to build it's own competing ghostbusters team from confiscated equipment and build the story around this government team failing to take the big bad , getting possessed and becoming an anti-ghostbusters team so you can set up a very different end where it's ghostbusters vs anti-ghostbusters (they have new proton blast proof suits so there can be a shootout without dying, add tension by making the suits have limited charges for the shielding) . It would be more marvel/action oriented and what i think would attract younger audiences. They want super hero movies and for that you can't just do the end boss concept on its own with a whole hour of boring family drama. You can have it there but its got to be interwoven .

Honestly I'm surprised some of the original cast participated in this doo doo. Granted I have not seen it your review pretty much sums up what I expected. I'll stick to watching the original films not these trashheaps they keep making👻

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Money talks I guess

@slappylover9318

2 ай бұрын

U should give it a try mate and it the best but it honestly ain’t that bad it’s a fun time great visuals and it wasn’t absolute trash That’s my opinion tho ur choice

The fans score will be higher and that's the main thing it's time to let go of the past if they want to continue tho

It wasn't as fluid as afterlife and bad editing had me feeling I was missing alot of story line

Well, Sony's gonna Sony, and Sony has done it again. 😡

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

They always go 1 or 2 steps too far lol

@lutherheggs451

2 ай бұрын

What does Sony Pictures have to do with anything beyond they paid for the production? It will never stop being hilarious how many people want to blame the studio and ignore the people like Jason Reitman who went on about what amazing ideas he had for sequels after Afterlife. Sometimes a studio should clearly step in. IF anything Ghostbusters should have been left alone after Harold Ramis passed. We already knew that Dan Aykroyd is incapable of writing a competent script on his own. Its been said that Ghost Smashers was hot garbage until Ramis fixed it, he did what he could with Ghostbusters 2 and his 3rd movie was deemed completely unfilmable and too expensive. The only time a story written by Dan Aykroyd was left alone and nobody fixed it we got Nothing But Trouble a massive mess, an expensive bomb that was only ignored by the studio because of his name and the studio was extremely busy with the filming of I believe Bonfire of the Vanities

Well, I saw it, and absolutely enjoyed it. Everyone laughed at the show I went to. Both young and old were grinning. I think each character were dealing with something in their own way. Story seemed fine to me. Perhaps it was too much overload on characters, but all in all, it was entertaining.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah can't say I had the same experience my theater was dead silent, like absolutely nothing got a reaction. Again kinda came off as very try hard to me, but glad you enjoyed it.

@slappylover9318

2 ай бұрын

@@BingChilling-gc4dd this movie was lengths better than the 2016

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@@slappylover9318 Yeah but that's not saying much either lol

I'm at the point where I go into reboots and remakes with zero expectations and allow myself to be pleasantly surprised if there's any quality at all. Unfortunately, this means I go to the theater less, because I'm not spending 100 bucks to take the fam to a probably-shitty movie.

I think the self aggrandising at the 2:00 mark encapsulates why so many critics are wide of the mark with this one. It’s Ghostbusters. It’s not Kurosawa. If you want more from your movies why are you consuming popcorn cinema? It’s a fun film that’s designed to entertain on a superficial level so that’s how you approach it. If you come at it like it’s Scorsese’s Mean Streets you will be disappointed. This was a wonderfully made feel good follow on to Afterlife.

The movie gets worse, the more I think about it. Just think how stupid the resolution of the bad guy is, who literally comes to the firehouse with its 27 Ghostbusters, as soon as he has materialised and gets his horns, just to instantly get trapped again. So incredibly stupid.

AGREED

It'll be a hit. As long as it's not that 2016 piece of ____

People seem to forget that Ghostbusters isn't SUPPOSED to be a jokey action movie franchise. They're supposed to be horror flicks with comedy sprinkled in to keep the dark points from being too overbearing

It seems some people are taking your video too personal Reel...like usual lol. I doubt many of them even know why they like the film so much besides being fun (to clarify, there's nothing wrong with having fun.....just people shouldn't use that to discredit criticism). Anyways, just wanted to mention that the Director (who did Monster House and Poltergeist 2015 remake) and the writer (son of comedic director who did the 1st & 2nd Ghostbusters), drew inspiration from The Real Ghostbusters, thus "wanting to make a long episode from the animated series", according to one of the actors. Probably why the film came out the way it did. A combo of these two with a very mixed resume were only going to produce nothing but an average product imo. Also, they are already planning MULTIPLE movies with the same director & writer. You're excited Reel lol?

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Story of my life lol and as far as people wanting to have fun I get it, I really do... but for me just doing the bare minimum and throwing in some member berries isn't going to do that for me, I think it's possible to make a fun movie thats also well made, doesn't have to be one of the other

@cjqcresent292

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT I agree with that, I mean we had recent examples of fun movies that have a level of quality put into them. I don't know why people don't see the difference between those and the poor nostalgic films...but I guess that's what happens when you just consume. Talking about nostalgia, I'm getting very tired of them.

Just got out and this movie was not good. And after watching afterlife over and over on streaming its not that good either. Just fan service and the 1984 plot redone.

I am not judging it until I see it 3 times. Why? Because the first time is all about EXPECTATIONS. You aren't watching the movie FOR WHAT IT IS. The 2nd viewing is seeing it for the first time already knowing what to expect, picking up on more details, maybe things I missed. Seeing how it feels to watch it for what it IS and not for what I HOPED it would be. The 3rd viewing is rewatching the movie I know and seeing how I feel about it. Why would anyone do that? I don't know, how many times have you seen Ghostbusters 1? I watch it at least once a year. That's 40 times. Who watches a movie 40 times? I remember not liking Ghostbusters 2 when it came out. I love it now. Alien Covenant was dogshit when I first saw it. Now it's one of my favorite Alien movies. (I DID NOT SAY ONE OF THE BEST. I SAID ONE OF MY FAVORITES!) Maybe I will hate Frozen Empire on the 3rd watch. But then I will KNOW I hate it, and not just think that I do. I saw 'Answer the Call' 3 times. It was best on the first viewing and the flaws only became more glaring with each rewatch. Now I know I don't like it and I can explain exactly why in great detail.

@JohnnyLobes

2 ай бұрын

When I was a kid I got ghostbusters on VHS for my birthday. Back when it cost like 80 bucks to buy. I watched it everyday when I got home for at least a month.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

3 Times? I understand what you are saying but most times I don't need 3 viewings to realize something is bad

@edwardjohnson6744

2 ай бұрын

@REELSHIFT - it's not to realize it's bad, it's to give it a chance to grow on me. I love Ghostbusters. If it's something that hasn't mattered to me for 40 years I won't watch it 3 times. Ghostbusters. ALIEN. Etc... those get 3 strikes.

When i seen pics of the library ghost for this movie it looked like it came from the 2009 video game Double Toasted mocked this movie in their review and why are the mini marshmallow men still alive to say they got evaporated in the last movie I guess to sell more lazy cash grab merchandise everything in this movie screams the 2009 video game where peck gets promoted in some capacity. In the next movie they will do the scoleri brothers and Vigo and throw more nostalgia so the rabid fans eating it up at every turn and regurgitate collectible popcorn tins and novelty items. Lastly with this movie it really wasn’t heavy advertised on my street that only one bus had it advertised it’s quite obviously the Sony shills will never be negative about this movie in fears of getting black listed from future ghostbusters press events. Moreover I will be skipping this movie and wait for Deadpool three I will only watch this movie by a relative getting me it for Christmas.

It was a great movie

I mean.... what else is new? There as been some good remakes here and there. But, so far, most of the time. These types of reboots/remakes always tend to fail in the long run.

The video Game Remastered on ps4 makes a Trilogy for me

I tried to give a video link but for some reason if I leave out a comment with a video link KZread always deletes my comment so here it goes. The title of this KZread video is this: It’s Ghostbusters we’re not serious McKenna Grace Hits back At new sequels critics So apparently in this video they don’t In some form or fashion care what fans think!!!

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Bold strategy

I grew up on ghostbusters and it shouldn't rely on old cast members to be good! It's the writing. The writers today try too hard to be like marvel or use over the top effects just to use them, or use today's trends like the drone and female empowerment and terrible comedy moments like the stay puft marshmello gremlins ect. I'm seeing stuff like this in every damn film today. If they would have copy pasted 80s, 90s,even early 2kwriting wrote the story out toward a new big bad entity of some sort like the slime or like the frozen big bad of this new film, I think it would be better. Every film today constantly uses today's trends it's terrible "don't forget to like and subscribe"- ppppfffttt😭🤬 pretty much the reason every film is garbage these days. Example Indiana jones did ok cause it somewhat stayed writen to how the over ark of those films play out usually. Imagine if indy tried to fight using drones-that's the other example, if they did that.. That to me is "Tried too hard to fit today's trends in a film" . That's why I feel this ghostbusters film should fire it's writers. And why marvel and many other big films in general are sinking. Jumanji is another I'm sad about.

Saw it last night. What a piece of shyt tbh I liked Afterlife

The ending is anti-climax thanks to the dumb Fire Master who spoilt the whole mood.

Who ever decided to put that stone animated story should be fired. It didn't fit and was cringe. I was fine with after life. Winston is the only I wanted to see back also not have too much screen time.

👍👍

That girl ghost was pure cringe and as a fan I am not happy with this film I was bored about 45 mins in until the old cast showed up also Dan had some cringe lines until he picked up, there was no way that his scene was funny as The World Of The Psychic with Venkman, the TV ad with the classic Kenner toy ad with kids playing with a toy trap was bad taste!, it's poor dull and boring.

The movie sucked, yes. Fucking Mckenna Grace, aka the Rey of Ghostbusters franchise, is the main focus as ever. Bill Murray just passed through the movie set to appear for a few minutes. But neverthless, I think it is better than afterlife. At least it is set in New York. William Atherton is back as Walter Peck. And the only thing I really liked is Garraka, I think he is badass. He should have appeared longer.

it has an audience score of 85% on rotten tomatoes. It is enough to convince me to go and see the film in theatres. So I guess their opinion of the film overrules that of the Critics.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Sorry but the critics are right this time

@larrysellers7891

2 ай бұрын

Ignore the bad reviews and go and see it. It’s well made, good fun popcorn cinema.

I ll make my own opinion once i see the movie.

I can understand how obsessed fans of the 1984 movie. are more critical of the sequels. But there are a lot of people under 40 who never saw Ghostbusters 1 and 2 and wouldn't notice the Easter eggs. Their first experience with Ghostbusters could've been the garbage from 2016

I really don’t care what anyone says about this movie. Trailer had me sold and I plan to see it. Why? Why, oh I don’t know, because it looks fun and looks like an adaptation of an episode of the Real Ghostbusters show. That and a good excuse for escapism.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I felt the same way after watching the trailer, but it didn't work out but... Always best to form your own opinion if you are that interested.

@jw_gojifan19

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT That's generally how I do things. I can only imagine how New Empire is going to fare. Plus, it looks like 86% of audiences like Frozen Empire.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@jw_gojifan19 Yeah I don't place much faith in audience scores, all of that stuff is manipulated

I saw it and a SUCKED.

@FiveDORRA

Ай бұрын

I knew it did from the trailer,all gen z has is lame nostalgia, oversized clothing, huge glasses etc , pure clowns

Bill Murry is the STAR of Ghostbusters. Not McKenna Grace. Bill Murray is the STAR. And Bill Murray should've been in the movie from beginning to end with a story arc that's developed with Dana and her grown up son Oscar.

I actually thought they turned down the "nostalgia bait" in this one. The new cast was more front and center and their interactions with the old cast was more purposeful. Also, I don't get the criticism of the teenage girl acting like a teenage girl. Yes shes super smart, but she's not emotionally mature. I'm surprised you didn't like the expansion of the Ghostbuster Corp.I think that fleshes out universe and shows that older busters are looking to pass down the mantle. Though it could also lead to some awful spin offs. I took Paul Rudds cringe jokes to be from his being a fan of the ghostbusters, because in this universe, he would have grown up when they were saving the world. makes sense that he would be obsessed over them. Movie was far from perfect, but was an enjoyable time at the theater.

Glad this movie sucks because the last 2 were a mess.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say I'm glad it sucks, I'd prefer good movies but yeah should've saw this coming a mile away

@slappylover9318

2 ай бұрын

Afterlife wasn’t even that bad

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@slappylover9318 I agree but it wasn't that great either. Kind of Average to me.

@slappylover9318

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT agreed

Ghostbusters Frozen Empire was AWESOME! Not sure what movie you watched!

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I watched Ghostbusters Frozen Empire

People love it, 85% by audience on Rotten Tomatoes

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah because a RT score has never been manipulated before, wake up

@larrysellers7891

2 ай бұрын

It’s a quality feel good popcorn movie.

Copenhagen singing cheeses? Seriously?

C'mon, man. At least they finally made sequels to Ghostbusters. WTH, fans asked for these movies for decades now we're complaining? Sometimes a franchise just can't win.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I didn't personally ask for sequels because I'm not interested in movies being made just for the sake of existing, to me that not how filmmaking should work

@ErnestoMaldonado-mq8mx

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT Fair enough.

Watching this right now Literally at the same time Im watching you. Im on a popular streaming site ,I won't say which. anyways this movie is boring. The comedy isn't funny its very hollow on the action and not at all worthy of the purchase for a theater ticket.

I have already seen it. It’s not the best but it’s better than ghostbusters 2 and 2016.

Talk about flogging a dead horse.Mad to believe we're still talking about near fifty years old franchises , Hollywood is dung man.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I mean some franchises are worth bringing back, but Ghostbusters is a very 80s entity

@teethonthecurb161

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT They've all been butchered man 🤣 Halloween, Nightmare, Terminator, Predator, RoboCop all absolutely diced into pieces.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@@teethonthecurb161 No doubt, Top Gun is probably the only one that worked out

@teethonthecurb161

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT Not forgetting Star Wars,Hellraiser,Candyman got the treatment too lol now Ghostbusters,eesh us oldies at least have our memories haha 🤣

@lutherheggs451

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT It worked because some people are stupid OR, were willing to ignore because nostalgia that the plot of the movie was basically A New Hope. But instead of the young fresh inexperienced pilot being the only one able to fire the missiles into the Death Star it was the "Han Solo" who was the only one who could pull it off, and Luke oops I mean "Rooster" was just the sidekick. Its not a terrible movie or anything but it will never stop being hilarious to me how many people jizzed for joy over a movie that wasn't anything really fresh or new, that just cribbed part of a premise from a movie made in 1977

I knew the film would be bad when it was announced that Jason Reitman and Gil Kenan were back on writing duty. I thought they did a terrible job with Ghostbusters Afterlife. They may be decent directors, but they're not the people that should be writing these films.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Ivan & Harold are missed

@doctorvondoom5797

2 ай бұрын

Horrible take dude. And a ghostbuster fan at that shame on you bro.

@ghostbusterscollector8593

2 ай бұрын

@@doctorvondoom5797 Horrible take why exactly? What am I wrong about? I'm a fan of Ghostbusters when it's done well. I don't have to be a fan of everything that comes out just because it's Ghostbusters.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@ghostbusterscollector8593 Don't listen to him, he's monless sheep who needs everyone to agree with him

If ever there was a movie series that should have remained in its era it’s Ghostbusters.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely 💯

They just can't leave ANYTHIHG alone anymore can they? Like why even remake things if they're gonna flop just as hard as something new? Why not just make new shit then

@F1989C

2 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!💯💯

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Sony gonna Sony. They are the definition of not knowing when to stop, look what they ate doing with their spiderman universe

@hollywoodmkx

2 ай бұрын

Because it’s not a remake: it’s a sequel. There’s a big difference.

@c1ph3rpunk

2 ай бұрын

They are incapable of original thought or creation.

@lutherheggs451

2 ай бұрын

Anymore? Why do sooooo many people seem to live in this weird delusional world, pretending that remakes are something new that are more or less being done now yet not back in the day...They have literally ALWAYS remade movies constantly, that god damned awful Looney Tunes Scarface is a remake of a remake of a remake of a movie from 1929. People also seem to have a hard time understanding that hundreds of movies get made every year and a few of those are remakes and sequels because they make money. There is less risk in making a sequel or a remake, so if anything its more surprising that they don't make more, due to how "safe" they have a significantly less chance of failing

While I 100% loved the original film, and cartoon since I was a kid, I firmly believe Ghostbusters to the MOST OVERRATED FILM FRANCHISE EVER. It has one amazing film with the original, and the remainder of films are literally all inferior remakes of the original film. God forbid they try to actually tell a new story instead of nostalgia bait.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I can't disagree with anything you said here. Spot on 👏

Its not the movie its the director personally I liked it 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻better then 2016 at least

Bro with that trend to hate on it because all the other critics are so let’s just jump on in with them and ride that train for the clicks 🙄🙄 movie is an absolute blast from start to finish people decide for yourself and not some clown like this dude

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Sure Jan, And If I went against the "consensus" you would whine about that too. Your real problem is you don't agree, and you take that personal for some reason. sorry I'm not here to tell you want you want to hear. Maybe grow up or stay off the internet 🤷‍♂️

@TheBrisco1234

2 ай бұрын

I saw the trailer and decided for myself it looked like 💩 and didn’t see it.

I SAW IT YESTERDAY AND IT WAS REALLY GOOD. IT HAD A FEW FLAWS, BUT IT WAS A WORTHY MOVIE.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I wish I did.

@Saber808

2 ай бұрын

I saw it and it SUCKED.

@LHollan

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFTyou’re just another woke critics that hates movies that had no woke agenda

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

@LHollan WTF are you even talking about? The movie sucked get over it 🤡

and how can a female to female ghost relationship have more screen time and more play than Bill Murray does in Frozen Empire?

@carl5381

2 ай бұрын

because Hollywood is normalizing child sex. Just look at cuties.

Ghostbusters as a franchise is fine. the problem is TERRIBLE HACK writing, which is ALL modern movies. every damn movie does the EXACT SAME THING. SUMMON BIG BAD GOD WHOS SO FEARSOME, BUT OH LOOK he never kills the main charcters he sits there and lets them defeat him by a guy whos never done fire bending before, and a 15 year old girl. Wow i guess they must have had it super easy back in ancient times then if a noob fire user and a 15 year old girl can take out a god. you want some actual stakes/ KILL THE GOD DAMN MAIN CHARACTERS, its a ghostbustomers movie.. make them damn ghosts and figure out a way for them to come back or something in the next movie. if pirates of the carribian can figure it out why cant you.

I felt like all this film had to do was be a fun adventure. Yet it felt like they had to jam pack it with tons of characters and poorly written subplots. Every time I thought there might be something interesting, they'd just divert to something else. Pacing was bad. Tone was all over the place. It makes me wonder if the studio was telling the creative to add and change things.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

I heard another review say it felt like a bunch of random scenes cut together, and I can definitely agree

Dude, the movie did not suck at all. As for rotten tomatoes give you the only like a 45%? They're a bunch of crap, why was the fans the audience themselves give it like a well over 80%. And it's a hit. From my end there are, a shitload of fans that actually love the movie. Right now it is #1 movie in America. So a lot of good critics are really full of it. It's what the fans that count, not the other way around. *SCREW THE DAMN CRITICS!*

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Most fans are looking at movies with fan goggles on, that's where the term comes from. That's not to say fans are always wrong either, there's nuanced opinions. Just like there are some critics who can't be trusted as well. In this case however I think the critics got it right. Imo

Waste of time terrible should've been on PBS

Only one thing to say about these remakes « GOD THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN TO QUIT !!!! » And that goes for either movie studios and movie goers. Don't people learn from their mistakes anymore?

@EmlynBoyle

2 ай бұрын

But this isn't a remake?

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not a remake, it's more of a legacy sequel but Nostalgia is a hell of a drug and its always going to work on some people

@longann7560

2 ай бұрын

@@EmlynBoyle NO ??? what do you call the nostalgia bait all over it ?

@longann7560

2 ай бұрын

@@REELSHIFT Nostalgia bait or remake, demake, reboot, soft reboot, sequels, its all the same garbage. They are using all the nostalgia crap they can think off, and shove it down your throat without an once of originality, just to get you in the theater and take your money and your time AKA your life ! And some people are still falling for it after all the flops we've seen for the last 10 years now. Pathetic

"Cheap nostalgia bait" everything behind you is nostalgia. Look at your shirt for god's sake.

Climate Empire!

it has references but not every legacy sequel is nostalgia bait. itll seem tbat wah to someone like you who isn't souly a ghostbusters fan at heart. full offense btw. i still thought it was ok but it didn't feel like ghostbusters

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah fans tend to be blinded by their fan goggles and can't actually see terrible quality when it happens

I can handle a shitty movie but was it "Woke"? Hopefully it doesn't enter that area of flushing money down the drain. Also i'm sure you know what i mean by "woke" Basicslly any messages, Man hating, virtue signaling, or projecting that is forced and not needed.

GHOSTBUSTERS FROZEN EMPIRE SUCKS and you know why GHOSTBUSTERS FROZEN EMPIRE SUCKS? GHOSTBUSTERS SUCKS because Bill Murray doesn't appear in the movie until the end again. TELL ME I'M WRONG

@TheRAMBO9191

2 ай бұрын

You are wrong. I grew up on ghostbusters and it shouldn't rely on old cast members to be good! It's the writing. The writers today try too hard to be like marvel and or use today's trends like the drone and female empowerment and terrible comedy moments like the stay puft marshmello gremlins ect. I'm seeing stuff like this in every damn film today. If they would have copy pasted 80s writing but made it frozen empire big bad I think it would be better. Every film today constantly uses today's trends it's terrible "don't forget to like and subscribe"- ppppfffttt😭🤬 pretty much the reason every film is garbage these days.

Should have been left in the 80's. the Original characters are just too old. Just like the recent Indiana Jones.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

💯

The very idea of kids being able to do the same "bustin" that adults in their primes had problems with, was the most ridiculous thing in the Afterlife...I mean, you have lines in the original two GBs where they specifically point out the weight of the proton weapons - just that thing alone takes out the "exclusivity" of being a GB in general. I mean, if kids can be GBs, that makes it "saving the World by busting ghosts" probably the easiest and lamest task ever. But I still might give it a chance, I heard Ray has a quite big role in this one and he was always my favorite !!!

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I was never sold on the kid Ghostbusters either but in Afterlife they were atleast likeable unlike the 2016 characters... but Frozen Empire ruined all that good will they built up

Nah it was good

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Nah

What would have made you think it was going to be good in the first place?

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Who said I did?

start realising they are making these films for younger people and not people in their 40s bud. from a 36 year old.

@REELSHIFT

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but younger people aren't connecting with it either. And if tha6s the case then stop using the old cast to try to sell the movie