you save me tons of time with stuff like this dude. thank you so much

Thank you for the template and lesson! (your rack naming convention is priceless lol)

An absolute godlike template, thank you for this brother! :D

wicked man, you always deliver quality product, thanks :)

Bought it, it will definitely take my mixing skill developement to a higher level

The tutorial has changed the game for my gain staging! For sidechaining I prefer using devious machines duck which I have full control how deep and long the sub ducks for the kick or snare. No click track needed. I use track spacer to sidechain compress competing frequencies or for the vocal to shine ✨

Brilliant video, And the impact the alien template has had on my production's..... Is there for everyone to hear......Loud and clean AF.... Thanks man

Would love to buy a demo ableton tempalte, like this but with an arrangement to see how you mix everything and hit the limiters, would buy that

SIIIIIIICK this is EPIC!

Great tutorial man 🔥🔥🔥

Great stuff man, would love to see a video of you mixing one of your songs to see the decisions/usage of these templates

@futurebeats898

4 жыл бұрын

Same!

Thx man! Buyed

Thanks man!

♥Official AHEE

So I had a question about Return Busses in reference to the templates specifically the Skrill Dissection one. Sometimes I like some of my elements to use the same reverb and sending it to a return in varying amounts, How would that work with the chains? Would it effect the gain staging or mix ?

GENIUS

I was wondering if you’d be able to do a video on how to switch out the compressor for Shaper box? would be a huge help

Ahee is the best! Maky my own template for heavy bass shit, and its really loud and clean! However once You need sit down and understand how it works, so You can make correct conclutions. Piece, aliens!

nice! but can anyone explain how to use the template though? I'm just confused as to why is everything is hitting all these limiters when there all set to 0db? is the ceiling on the limiter meant to higher or lowered depending on the sound? if all the sounds are gain staged correctly the limiters aren't doing anything because the sound sare nowhere near 0db on the faders? I would be really appreciated someone explaining this to a noob! I'm very confused!

Thank you for making these videos bro! I just have a question , so im trying to recreate your alien template but in logic pro x and ive pretty much done it except im kinda confused about the limiters. So just to recap: pro L on chain group , hype chain , basic chain , premaster & master , kick/snare group , top drums group , bass group & melodic group? You said no limiters on fx and vocal group correct? And i also noticed when you opened the sub group there wasnt a pro l on the sub group either. Am i correct with all of this? I know youre a busy guy but id really appreciate a reply :) thanks again ahee youre the man!

I wish I wasn’t a starving artist, I’d give you all my money. I use FL Studio but your tuts are dank. Big ups Ahee.

@wired-up5677

4 жыл бұрын

Been trying to figure out how to set this up in FL with different plugins.

@death_throes

4 жыл бұрын

Wired-Up Same here. I have an EQ 2, a multiband compressor (rn it’s Maximus) slight reverb on my master. My premaster is the same. My sub BUS (set to mono) and “everything over 80hz” BUS has an EQ 2, and a limiter/compressor. All of my other BUSes and channels feed into those groups respectively. I’m still tweaking some stuff.

How would u use them when u work a track from scratch? Is there a specific gain staging for each tracks to be maintained or is it ok to crank up the volume ? Im confused here a bit, or is it only for mixing purposes? Sry im new to ableton ..

how to deal with the latency introduced by the extra levels of limiting? eg drums which hit the pre-master before chords group

so downloaded prol2, span and the templates. Why cant I place an instrument or vst on the tracks? Seems like alls i can do is load samples into the track. Should i just insert a midi track and copy settings or am i missing something simple?

hey ahee.. i love these templates but ive found some weird things happening that didnt normally happen in ableton when using them. the eq8 on groups and master, some bands will enable and disable themselves cutting certain frequencies and i didn't program these changes. another things happens when im automating. ill have say the freq cutoff in an automation lane and ableton will switch it to something else as soon as im about to click my next point. its very frustrating and ive never had this problem in any version of ableton and have been using 10 for while. only started noticing these weird annoying things when i set template as the default opening set. any ideas on ways to fix this or ever had this problem???

These templates will work with another type of music? Like deep house, pop?

I wish I would of seen this when i started to make music

Last question - is the Premaster supposed be to set to 'in' or 'auto' ; when i downloaded the template it was set to 'auto' but no audio was coming in from K&S chain; BUT when i set premaster to IN I could hear my kick and snare. Am I making any sense at all... This is with Alien Fab pro L template

Are you tweaking the limiters on the busses at all? Or just applying them and letting them do their thing by default

I really love your in-depth walkthroughs! One question: What's the benefit(s) of using a separate audio track for your "Sidechain Trigger" and manually placing the triggers as wav clips? I usually just sidechain directly to a specific drum pad... Like if I want my sub bass to duck when the kick drum hits, I put compressor at the end of my sub bass channel, select the drum channel as the compressor's "audio from" input, then select the "Kick (Pre FX)" drum pad from the dropdown menu. You obviously know what you're doing, so I'd love to know what I might be missing in my normal workflow. Thanks Ahee!

@fredeatstheworld308

4 жыл бұрын

the advantage is that you can control the lenght of the input so if you don't want to cut the tails of a sound in a bass for an example you can use the transient of a kick and the first few 10-50ms or however long the sound you sidechain needs you put the sidechain attack to 1 aka dont touch it at all so the lenght of your input decides the lenght of the sidechain it is also a very powerful creative tool if you wanna do different rhythmic pumps

@coreybramwell635

2 жыл бұрын

To have a shorter duck that for the transient rather than the whole duration of the kick. I’ve found the best of both worlds is to use duck by devious machines which is a volume shaper allowing you to have full control of the length and depth of the ducking. No click track needed.

so do u leave the limiter settings as is or what? thanks i just got these

Can someone explain why the frequency EQ was so high on the kick sidechain? Also, I just found your channel and love the content. Your videos are amazing

Hey you did a video on how to mix for all speakers I can’t find it 😅

Can you please update to 11.1 I noticed this on the new LFO vol2 product :,D

Great video and templates! Quick questions: 1. Why not use the fabfilter Pro C2 for side chaining? You can set it up the same way as ableton's but with the Pro C2 you will need to active external side chaining by clicking the advance controls tab and baaaaam you have side chaining without having to create another track or have ghost kicks and snares to trigger!! With the pro c2 You wont need a trigger channel at all. 2. I love the Pro L2 limiter! It also has a great updated features like being able to check LUF Metering ands true value peak control and what i love the most is the 1.1 button. I love being able to set the limiter with out it getting loud so you can actually hear what the limiter is doing. Sometimes we can be fooled to thinking just because its louder it sounds better! So I would love to know what you set your output on thePro L? Some say -1.0 and some have told me to set it 0.30 or like 0.01, 0.02??? In Pro L2 its called output but some would call it the ceiling Great video like always bruh! We appreciate your hard work and sharing so much value!! Keep up the amazing work and have a great day and fabulous week!

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Greatest Sports HighLights you achieve Sidechain using any technique, I just prefer this way because I get great results I’m happy with. I don’t really pay attention to my Pro L outputs anymore. I used to pay more attention but I started getting better results when I stopped worrying about that stuff and focused on wether it sounded clean or not and comparing levels in Span. Really freed my mind. Learn that from Seth Drake who masters Bassnectar & Travis Scott.

@GreatestSportsHighLights

4 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialAHEE Thank you! I hear bruh, I could care less about Seth Drake because he has equipment and a studio we both don't have access too, So It's hard to go by what they say because treated room and gear they have in a studio is totally different from a home/bedroom studio that is not treated! Totally different sound! This doesn't mean we don't keep an open mind about the advice he may provide, we just also keep an open mind that things may sound different compared to artist with access of a studio and engineer and ect that labels can provide! I also asked because a library we submit wanted -0.2 over the peak. My thoughts was like it sounds good? They said yes but, we have certain standards we ask for! So Having to deal with certain publishers and libraries it matters to them! I guess if you just making music for an artist/ youtube/ Spotify and just a following it wont really matter as long as it sounds good! However when getting placement they want their stems a certain way and the peak to be at -0.1 or -0.2, it never made sense to me as long as the music sounds good right?!?!?! LOL Some of these libraries have standards. We going to re watch that span video again it sure will help out big time! Thanx again for replying and also providing these amazing videos! Have a great day and keep up the great work Alien!

@ahee why do you think it’s better to put the pro Ls before sidechains. I always put it after because I notice some clipping sometimes

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Kidnūn Sidechain always after Pro L, otherwise you’re just fighting the Sidechain’s purpose. The master limiter will deal with those clips, dontcha worry ;)

@kidnun804

4 жыл бұрын

Official AHEE make sense thanks man

what settings would you recommend using the the stock limiter limiter at with these templates?

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

i wouldn't recommend the stock limiter ;) the stock version of this template avoids using the stock limiter, instead I use a combo of the glue compressor and saturator to achieve a better result.

whats even a premaster for? i feel real basic when it comes to it

So now that clipping is in style, would you take the limiters off? haha - serious question though. I feel gaslighted now that i've owned pro q l -2 for a few months only to find everybody is clipping like madmen

Hey. I just wanted to know if your unmastered track sounds good on your phone after you export it.... Will a good master make it perfect? Cuz my unmastered tracks sound good but I think my mastering is bad so it just makes kicks and 808s muddy. This happens to most of my tracks. I just wanted to know if my unmastered mix sounds good on small speakers will a good master make it sound good too? Or is it that the mix is just bad if the master (be it only limiting till you get some gain reduction) doesn't sound good?

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Saahas Lalwani have you watched my “Best mixing advice using Span” video? I cover how to learn from others mixes to solve problems like that

Does this work for pc as well?

DOES THIS WORK ON ABLETON 11?

does this work in Live 11?

Yoooo whats the track at the end of the video?

The annoying this about sc triggers is that you have to spend all that time lining them up. I am pretty sure there is a way to do it more efficiently with midi but I'll have to fiddle with it. The other thing I wish was possible (if it is pls tell me) is to have a master sidechain that you can send to different channels so you can keep the settings consistent instead of having to adjust each sc to match each other. I feel like I would have way more solid sounding mixes this way.

@SnoMan1818

4 жыл бұрын

Geoffrey Carter use external instrument routed to your ducking tool and place midi on that channel for sidechain. Route your buss/group to send the audio to the channel with the ducking tool. Bam easy sidechainint

@keithpieniazek1

4 жыл бұрын

Add an audio channel. Label it "Sidechain" Add a compressor to that channel. Set up the compressor to your "master" sidechain settings. Under the I/O settings of the Sidechain channel, set the "Audio From" to "No Input", set the Monitor from "Auto" to "IN" and things get orange. Whatever channel you want to have the "master" sidechain applied to - set the "audio out" to the Sidechain channel. All that being said - I don't like this method because it limits some other routing methods which I like and a "master" sidechain doesn't work for me.... chords get different sidechain than bass... for me. Play with this method and have fun!

@music143250

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithpieniazek1 So where does the sc trigger come from in this method?

@keithpieniazek1

4 жыл бұрын

@@music143250 Still however you do it.... my reply only addresses the 2nd half of your post... ;-) Agreed that there probably is a clever way to do it through midi... This video uses ALL audio...even for drums (and a lot of folks do) but that's not how I roll.

@music143250

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithpieniazek1 no i mean using your method, how do i trigger the sidechain?

I've been using the Skrillex template with amazing results but I have one major issue. All of the Pro=Ls that I have on the chains, premaster and master are causing 64ms latency each and, in turn, is cause a lot of GUI lag (which is making small edits a nightmare since the playhead isn't technically live or accurate). Any work around?

@SnoMan1818

4 жыл бұрын

Regan Owen delay compensation, reduce latency when monitoring

@rko.8027

4 жыл бұрын

@@SnoMan1818 I always have those turned on but still get bad latency :(

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Regan Owen I get hella latency and I just increase my buffer size to 2048 or whatever. I don’t even notice the difference in time anymore. Not everyone can work like that. Original template is less cpu intense if that bothers ya.

Unfortunately the Pro L1 and L2 templates have mad latency for laying tracks down, even if in bypass with a buffer at 128. Bummer. Stock plugs version doesn't though. Ill probably create in the stock version then go through and replace the stock limiters with L2 when it's mixing time.

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Scott lol my buffer is 2048. I don’t even register the difference anymore. Lol

@AccssryMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Official AHEE definitely hasn’t stopped me from utilizing the templates! Thank you for your services, brah :)

Got my stimulus ! I got it meow :)

Yo AHEE. I just bought the racks and these templates. What would really be cool is a tutorial about mixing the two together. Highlight some of the racks and how to use them in these set ups. That would be killer. ALSO: which one of these templates do you think is the best? I know they're all good but which one do you rec using? Thanks.

@GreatestSportsHighLights

4 жыл бұрын

Yes even a video on how to use them or a video creating something with them and like you said mixing the 2 together

@GreatestSportsHighLights

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like he don't reply to his fan base or his customers either! Great person and great video but it just horrible that he is not here to answer question but here to take your money and sell you templates and racks though! lol

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Greatest Sports HighLights hey just saw this, sorry I’ve been getting a lot of messages and some fall thru the cracks. Also honestly I’ve been sorta stressed with LA being on quarantine. Hope you have some compassion for me. You come across as quick to judge me without knowing how my personal life is going. Happy to answer questions but I cannot physically answer them all. I hope you get some value out of what I share, I try to give so much value but it’s comments like this that make me question if it’s worth my time.

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

N1B1RU yo that’s a good idea, I sorta do that in my “Is Mixing more important than mastering” video. Honestly I’d recommend any of them, Original will be be less cpu intense, Alien one can have wider dynamic range.

@phantom_him

4 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialAHEE Thanks man. I'll check it out.

insanely helpful--thank you. I wish you would have shared your PRO L Settings though. Anyway you can include the amount of limiting for each group?

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

My Pro L Settings are just the default, I don't bring them down at all. The limiting comes from catching the peaks of the elements, watch this vid for a deeper explanation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJmtyaVuitLSlZs.html

I buy this and I buy Fabfilter bundle and now i have no more money but I can make good music at least

TWO CHAINZ

I bought this template and it introduced lot's of latency. I guess it is usable if you have a separate mixing phase but for me it's not. Shame.

Love your content Ahee, but I gotta say $15 for the templates and only $20 for ALL your racks? Those prices seem disproportionate. I think you are selling yourself short on the racks tbh. But im not complaining

@OfficialAHEE

4 жыл бұрын

Domi Tsunami I know, trying to help people, others complain about it tho, trying to find a happy medium

You introduce latency with each instance of limiting. It's not necessary to use so many limiters. There are much better techniques for catching peaks.

@HollerAtcherBoi

2 жыл бұрын

Cough...clippers...cough

@matrixate

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollerAtcherBoi exactly

@UTUBE1102

4 ай бұрын

Is the way he routes it still achieving something if i were to delete the number of limiters to fix the latency issue? Or would it defeat the purpose of the template if I was to start removing the pro L limiters. Trying to salvage the template I bought but can't deal with this latency bit

@matrixate

4 ай бұрын

​@@UTUBE1102it's been years since I left this comment, and now I actually produce for a studio. MG was right all along. Use a clipper, NOT a limiter. The way WE tame peaks is by gradually clipping with oversampling and bouncing down the sample while freezing the track. If you need to go back, just unfreeze. This way, you don't get any latency whatsoever. Zero latency. The only thing you need to consider, is what clipper to use. I am not paid for promoting, so I'll let you research for one. You can get free ones...I would suggest those first.

@UTUBE1102

4 ай бұрын

@@matrixate thanks for taking the time to reply

Pro- L 2 for the low price of $200 -.-

First?

In first 2 seconds of video i got diarrhea