I'm 7 Minutes in and you guys haven't mentioned the coal mine that uses 170 times more water than the Tesla plant

@KookyBone

26 күн бұрын

- Or that this a monoculture Plantage. - or that nearly every other factory nearby needs more water. - that all of it was planted to cut down. - that these guys don't have any clue how the world works.

@duncan.o-vic

26 күн бұрын

@@KookyBone - or that it's not relevant and that it is about Tesla and what it represents - capitalist exploitators pretending to solve problems.

@tenzinpassang4812

26 күн бұрын

Hmmm now, if you do some slight research and see who these "environmentally friendly" folks are funded by, you might see some names and affiliation from VW Groups. I mean, they wouldn't do such thing, that's like saying they would cheat the omission tests. Besides, these guys also protest against oil and gas guzzling automakers too, right?

@marcoh.6345

26 күн бұрын

the coal mine which makes electricity for your e car^^?

@duncan.o-vic

26 күн бұрын

@@KookyBone or that all you say is irrelevant because they protest against expansion, not the damage that's already been done.

They should protest infront of Mercedez, BMW factories too. Should tell them to produce only busses and trams.

@merzto

25 күн бұрын

Mercedes is one of the biggest Bus producer.

@dynasty5053

10 күн бұрын

@@merzto correct. Tesla not so much. 👎

How does DW not see the obvious difference between a man made plantation forest and a natural forest.

@dannyarcher6370

26 күн бұрын

They see it. But the A/B testing showed that "Tesla cuts down plantation for new Gigafactory" didn't get the same number of clicks.

@violettaschmieder2096

26 күн бұрын

A man made forest is still much much better than concrete

@violettaschmieder2096

26 күн бұрын

And its also about not polluting the ONLY body of water in the area

@-Nobody-1

26 күн бұрын

@@violettaschmieder2096 in what way could the site do that?

@michasosnowski5918

26 күн бұрын

Plantation or not, there are trees that have potential to absorb carbon and become REAL FOREST. If you cut it down, you dont have that potential anymore. We humans cutted down so much old forest that allowing new one to flourish would always be plantation effort. Its meaningless argument.

This is totalling misleading. Anyone who knows anything about this situation knows that it’s not a forest, it’s a plantation. These trees were planted to be cut down. You have a bunch of students who just want to feel like they’re doing something but have no idea what they’re doing. They should not only be listened to, but they should be forcibly removed from the trees.

@Silks-

26 күн бұрын

Whether it’s a plantation or not, our mass production/consumerism needs to stop. EVs aren’t the solution to future transport, we should be investing in public transport but it’s not as profitable so we take the more destructive path instead. Musk couldn’t care less about the environment either. Good on the people that are fighting back against these megacorps.

@ylstorage7085

26 күн бұрын

Democracy is about uninformed people making decisions together. There are majority rules, there are anti-majority measures.

@8bvg300

26 күн бұрын

Even so, you can't deny that very few factories have no impact on the surrounding water supply. Either from consuming much of the local supply or dumping their waste back into it.

@carnivore2023

26 күн бұрын

Your comment is also totally misleading. What happens after these trees get cut down and no factory is built? I will help you. Either young trees will be replanted or there will be natural regrowth and you will get a new forest coming. These students think they save the planet and they are totally wrong. Most people buying Tesla cars think they are saving the planet and they are totally wrong as well. Building a Tesla is worse for the planet than building a combustion car.

@dannyarcher6370

26 күн бұрын

@@Silks- _Whether it’s a plantation or not, our mass production/consumerism needs to stop._ Please just s.t.f.u.

If Tesla is going to make cars for the European market I would think it’s probably better for the environment if they are made in Europe rather than in China and then shipped to Europe.

@maxidal6927

26 күн бұрын

True. Now they are getting Chinese made cheap electic cars there. What a shame.

@trails3597

25 күн бұрын

They are making cars for both markets.

@ruekurei88

23 күн бұрын

They make them in both parts, and get massive incentives from various governments to do so. Not sure how 'better' for the environment it would be tho. Since if you aren't clearing land and using water and possibly contaminating water in one area, you're doing it in another. You're basically just choosing where to dig a hole in a yard. If it's at the corners, in the middle or anywhere in between, it's still a hole.

@jlall4467

12 күн бұрын

@@ruekurei88energy cost of shipping will be affected by where the factories are

@dynasty5053

10 күн бұрын

But the Europeans will ship there fabricated electric cars to Africa and the Middle East , so makes no difference. Your point is invalid

The area is designated for industry for nearly 25 years. BMW actually wanted to build a factory there in 2004 and in 2001 the people of Grünheide were in favour of this plant. Nobody was protesting then. The "Bebauungsplan" is more than 20 years old, so there was plenty of time to protest. And this plantation is not a forrest!

@KP-xi4bj

27 күн бұрын

Guess Tesla isn't German, hence, the protests under the guise of eco-climate concerns.

@OliverNorth9729

26 күн бұрын

7:28 *They are at risk of contaminating crucial bodies of water.* German fail.

@MrDanisve

26 күн бұрын

By that logic, Norway has no forest at all then. Only plantations. 94% of land is privately owned, and alot is used for timber. No they are forests, maybe not ideal virgin forests. But do fuction quite well as forests untill they are cut down. The longer they are left alone, the better forest it becomes. If we use your logic too, then we can pretty much just cut down the 140,000 km2 of forest in Norway and make Tesla factories there.

@JanBruunAndersen

26 күн бұрын

​@@MrDanisve- A forrest is where various types of trees are planted more or less random and are allowed to spread by themselves. A plantation consist of a single type of trees that are planted in straight rows, 4 meters apart to ensure sunlight and quick growth. Once the trees have reached a certain height, they are cut down, transported to a sawmill and turned into timber.

@headofmyself5663

26 күн бұрын

@@JanBruunAndersen yes, and this provides a more diverse ecosystem with a variety of habitats for animals and plants. Also natural forrest are mainly managed in Germany, but in a sustainable way. You take less timber out than can grow naturally. The ownership has nothing to do with that. Besides, Tesla compensated anyway by planting new, naturals forrests.

The trees were planted for paper production. They are going to be cut down.

@OliverNorth9729

26 күн бұрын

So then why are they protesting then?

@iakobkv271

26 күн бұрын

@@OliverNorth9729 For the same reason, nuclear plants are banned in Germany

@MrDanisve

26 күн бұрын

​@@iakobkv271 Nuclear plants can avoid many of the woods in the world being cut down. I live in Norway, our goverment wants to bombard the country in wind turbines to make money. Making roads thru forests, cutting down forests to make roads and turbines. All while we do have another option nuclear. That only use 1/350th of the land wind turbines do for the energy it generates.. Im mad at Germany for closing down their nuclear plants without replacing them with new. Has increased the economic benefit for us here in Norway to cut down our forests. And the neo-liberalists are going hard. I did some math, based on UAE recent purchase and building of South Korean reactors. Norway could easy take the transition to electric society and have enough power for what we estimate to use in 2060 by only building 3 nuclear sites. With 4 reactors in each site. Total cost of 80-90 billion dollars (Abit high cost since it will be the first nuclear reactors constructed, so one is to expect abit higher cost than the experienced.) Total land area used to power us to 2060 is 6km2 with nuclear power. While we need to use 2,100 km2 if we are to power ourselfs with windpower.

@mrright1068

26 күн бұрын

So these clowns dont own the land they are squatting on? Thats rich.

@nate6045

26 күн бұрын

​@@mrright1068 Watch the video.

They’re angry because they can’t think of anything better as an alternative to oil.

@hugodelnegro

25 күн бұрын

Public transportation

@Kaizzer

25 күн бұрын

There's nuclear, but they refuse it as well.

@kennethadler7380

24 күн бұрын

​@@hugodelnegroMaybe if you live in a city but if you live in a more rural area is harder

@jaegar2004

16 күн бұрын

No, its not the anti green right wing who is protesting, they never say no green transition if it means GDP. The ones protesting are the far left woke hipsters who want people to stop consuming and live in a 40sqm apartman with 4 gay friends and only use trams for transportation(soo basicly they want communism)

Why are they not fighting ICE manufacturers like VW, Mercedes or BMW?

@param888

27 күн бұрын

may be because these companies are german, perhaps.

@nuqwestr

27 күн бұрын

Unions and Collectivism.

@hillockfarm8404

26 күн бұрын

Because there is already a ban on selling new ICE cars starting in 2035. And yes individual EV will be to expensive for 80+% of the population in the westernworld, let alone the rest. Also apart from the environmental damage of mining the raw materials, there isn't enough of it in the world to replace ICE cars in use now. You want low cost, easy access transport, it will have to be mainly public transport and that is being lost due to costs. So people buy cars because they can't get to work without one. Mainly impacting low wage workers on early, late and night shifts somewhere in an industrial zone warehouse.

@mikafiltenborg7572

26 күн бұрын

BIG OIL Pay them 🛢️⛽💰💰💰

@Silks-

26 күн бұрын

ICE manufacturers also contribute to the issues these guys are against. Protesting the construction of an EV factory doesn’t negate the need to address environmental impact of ALL car manufacturers. Their focus on the gigafactory isn’t because it’s EV, it’s because it’s a massive factory in the middle of nature. It’s in no way absolving ICE manufacturers of responsibility.

From where Roman gets his money ? Others need to work to get by, camping in the woods for months is not feasible for some mortals..

@violettaschmieder2096

26 күн бұрын

People there dont use up much money at all and what they need they work for in the times theyre not in the forest, its rotating. A lot of things there work without money, like they eat food that otherwise would be thrown away by germanys wasteful supermarkets that arent being regulated

@ajnaughtin1

26 күн бұрын

BYD

@KonradTamas

26 күн бұрын

@@ajnaughtin1 oh yes.. its logical

@KonradTamas

26 күн бұрын

@@violettaschmieder2096 Interesting..

@austinzizzi1142

12 күн бұрын

Big oil is paying them probably. That’s the only thing that makes sense there’s no way you can tell me that those people are naturally that dumb

Germany/EU: why can we compete technologically with the US or China?? Also Germany/EU:

Why do you keep calling a tree plantation, a forest? I rather have Tesla increase biodiversity elsewhere like they’ve done in the past and will do again.

@duncan.o-vic

26 күн бұрын

???

@jasongaylard2547

26 күн бұрын

Wants more public transportation, protests against a train station. Some disjointed thinking going on.

@user-fb4ph4dd2k

25 күн бұрын

@@jasongaylard2547 You can't increase biodiversity. Nature isn't a supermarket. Read the definitions of the words you throw around.

It is a plantation of single species, not a forest. DW show some numbers like total plantation area vs current plant area and future expansion, or a 15 year water level chart to see the plant's impact. Anyone can have an opinion.

Notice the use of propane instead of using an electric stove

That Forest looks a lot like a monoculture to me.

Cooking with gas, Shouldn't they be pedaling a bike to drive a generator

@av_oid

7 күн бұрын

Yep! The complete lack of self awareness is amazing.

"Proudly sponsored by VW" sounds appropriate for this video

Anti-capitalist or anti-American but obviously not eco-activists; that term is about as believable as the product label "Environmentally Friendly".

Last time I checked BMW produces all their cars in space and don't require any land. Idk why can't Tesla do that. Especially elon can just build a factory in space with his rockets. I will also join the protest to protect the plantation trees.

Tesla should have chosen Poland instead of Germany in the first place.

@kelzuya

17 күн бұрын

Polish people still drive around on horses and donkeys. It would be too confusing for them to get a car factory.

@GiovanniMarcos-fo7mo

17 күн бұрын

@@kelzuya funny thing is that the smuggest people are the most ignorant ones.

best description of missing the forest for the trees

am i the only one or you guys also laughed when the girl asked the police to resign and join them? i mean why they are living in another world than us?

@violettaschmieder2096

26 күн бұрын

Nah she propably knows how unrealistig it is but its important to still remind people that they dont have to support the destruction of the environment that sustains us all, like its about literal life or death of everyone so of course its important to remind people whats at stake and that they still have some free will left

@AKA87BE

25 күн бұрын

Me as well, absolutely delusional

@kennethadler7380

24 күн бұрын

​@@violettaschmieder2096 litterly about life or death ? you really think we are all going to die if we dont stop a ev factory from expanding ? People want to have cars and ev are better than ICE cars

The blond guy hasn't heard of Tesla taxi so that people don't have to own cars anymore, huh? I wonder what organic and renewable hair dye he uses. Sheesh.

Where are all these protesters for all the regular car factories in Germany?

I don’t believe what these environmentalists call for. Compare to ICE car and many old manufacturers, Tesla plant is much more environment friendly.

It’s always something … The German car companies are behind this harassment

@Z4N7

8 күн бұрын

If tesla fanboys say so...

Let me guess if the factory goes away, the citizens will complain their town is dying but no cameras will show up.

@merzto

25 күн бұрын

Lmao, Berlin isn't going anywhere

Elon better bring robots here cos people definitely dont want to work here

@SkyRiver1

23 күн бұрын

The actual workers at the plant like Tesla and working there.

Can't see the forest for the trees 🌲🌲🌲“An expression used of someone who is too involved in the details of a problem to look at the situation as a whole”. I don’t live in Grünheide and realize that this plant will change their quiet town forever. I also respect that the activists want to save the environment. However, we have all been thoroughly brainwashed by the oil and gas industry. If it weren’t for Tesla forcing the automotive industry to change, we would be driving fossil fuel cars for the next 50 years, so they need to keep making this change happen. I agree with the gentlemen at 8:06/20:35 minutes, there needs to be a number of solutions put forward to stop climate change.

“We can’t continue this way… Not everyone can have a car” ok then be consequent and go demonstrate in front of each of the car factories in Germany… Look, they’re opening a new road in Wuhlheide to expand the city cutting through a “real” forest where I play with my child, I was demonstrating there last week, and you were instead in your tree-house in a tree plantation. I was complaining about the fact that creating even more roads doesn’t bring down traffic congestion, not about an EV company manufacturing less pollutant vehicles which we one way or another need some millions of

@OliverNorth9729

26 күн бұрын

7:28 *They are at risk of contaminating crucial bodies of water.* German fail.

@simonthekindcutthroat6324

26 күн бұрын

The problem is that EVs are NOT less polluting, they just move the pollution in different parts of the whole chain. Less direct emissions while it is being used, way more for manufacturing, and for producing the electricity to run it. Say nothing for the insane upgrade we need to for production, the grid itself, and electricity storage. It's actually a mind boggling scale of grid upgrade we would need for this... Which comes with massive pollution, as well as usage of more land. Overall, EVs being less polluting, is highly questionable at best, and straight up deceptive advertising at the worst.

@nate6045

26 күн бұрын

​@simonthekindcutthroat6324 The thing about EVs is the potential to be less pollutant is there. We currently lack the infrastructure to sustain that. We need more solar/wind farms. We also need to make vehicles smaller. Less weight = less energy consumed. One of the reasons why my only vehicle is a motorcycle. It may be gas powered but I get almost twice the fuel efficiency as a standard vehicle. If an electric bike was in my budget, I would have picked that. Bottom line is we need to change as a whole and that requires the government to get on board too to fund that level of change. The problem I have with Tesla in general is Elon will move locations at the drop of a hat. If he feels like there is a better location that will allow him to skirt labor laws and give huge tax breaks, he'll abandon this factory easily.

@kaigogolin515

26 күн бұрын

@@simonthekindcutthroat6324 you need to look deeper into this to make a sound statement. EVs use way less parts and are faster to produce! But the main issue here is that scale of production is key to lower pollution per unit. ICE is at its peak and not much can be improved but EVs are just starting and scale will make them much superior to reduce pollution in the long run compared to ICE cars. Do you think only about now? The future is better without burning gasoline and I think that’s pretty obvious. The same counts for energy production! The sun can provide us with much more energy then we ever can use, and that’s just one kind of clean source. The point is we need to transition now and it will be not perfect in the beginning. Any delay will be painful later.

@simonthekindcutthroat6324

26 күн бұрын

​@@kaigogolin515 I understand the POTENTIAL of it. My problem is the way they are marketed to people. As if they were less polluting and better for the environment RIGHT NOW. You might think that's not an important thing, but I do. I think people have been okay with a lot of change in human history, because industry deceived them, politicians deceived them. Making claims for what EVs are, that they aren't yet, is super unhealthy. It's the classic industry lying and lobbying for whats in their interest. Industries need to be held accountable for lies and scaling back milestones and improvements that were promised in general. Elon in particular is the wealthiest con man on earth. In any case, I think for any of this vehicle situation to make sense for humanity, we would need to limit vehicle sizes, which are insane, and fundamentally redesign urban planning to not be so car centric. (Good lord most of the city space is just parking its mental) That too, btw, was due to corporate lies and lobbying, hijacking city planning. Simply switching from one energy source to another ignores the core issues, and gives an easy 'out' in people's minds instead of forcing change where it would be important. Same thing happened with the plastic industries pushing recycling as a solution, so in the end, nothing changes, while people felt good about themselves, having solved the problem. EVs will be the same distraction.

Funny: didnt know "Mixed reactions" meant almost everyone of the citizens is FOR Tesla :D

They just wanna go camping ⛺️

Who's paying for the food?

@sydneypsycho

25 күн бұрын

Probably stolen from the local supermarket

@discountpotato5680

9 күн бұрын

It was me, I paid them to protest

So the environmental activists want more petroleum cars?😂😂😂 Im confused

@hillockfarm8404

26 күн бұрын

EU ban on sale of new ICE cars goes into effect in 2035. So those are already on the way out.

@danielsanchez205

26 күн бұрын

Your speaking facts

@user-sb3sn8di1s

25 күн бұрын

How are the electric cars powered? The majority are powered by thermal plants that burn fossil fuel to provide electricity, the battery production also involves considerable environmental degradation and pollution, and the transport of logistics to and from the Giga factory also involves ships, rail and trucks that all use fossil fuels. Have you seen how rubbish your argument is?

@peterkawa9869

25 күн бұрын

@@user-sb3sn8di1s so it's better for the fossil powered car to pollute the air for years ? Dumbest reply I've ever seen.Your actually saying it's better to use a fossil powered car 😹. Your logic is that we should just not use EVs and do what? Walk? Or use fossil powered cars? Tell us

@7wpollard

9 күн бұрын

Batteries aren't exactly eco friendly.

Vehicles are going to be built. Either in China where environment is largely ignored, or in Europe under enforced regulations. Push the manufacturers out of Europe, you end up with weaker Europe and considerably worse environment. Some greens are living with their heads in clouds. They also managed to close nuclear plants in Germany, cleanest and safest power production after hydroplants, replaced by coal plants.

Europe no longer deserves Tesla investment in their countries.

"What are you doing today guys?" "We're going to save the world by protesting outside a factory." "Oh great. So what is it.. an oil refinery? ..a petrochemical company? ..factory farming?" "No, it's a company that makes electric cars, installs EV charging stations, builds energy storage solutions and manufactures solar panels." "Oh. Ok then."

@lialalaith8977

9 күн бұрын

It's more about saving an already dry part of germany from drying out completely. They are already dealing with lack of water an forest fires. I don't support what those activists are doing, but also not how Tesla/Musk "deals" with that water problem. (Hope my school-english is understandable, sorry :D)

Without humans turning to God theres no hope for humanity.

Demokratie ist so wichtig. Auf der einen Seite sitzen 50 Menschen im Baum. Auf der anderen Seite arbeiten 12.000 Menschen und über 250.000 Menschen kaufen jedes Jahr ein Auto von Tesla Berlin.

Its not about the environment. The truth is, its about anti-capitalism. Its leftism. They have no other purpose and this activism gives them that purpose.

@cyberfunk3793

26 күн бұрын

It's not even always anti-capitalism or at least that isn't the root cause. The root cause is some syndrome where certain types of people wish to feel better about themselves and are achieving it by finding any possible cause that lets them lecture other people and protest about something. It's many of the vegans, the commies that became environmentalists after the initial cause died etc. Cause changes, syndrome doesn't.

@-Nobody-1

25 күн бұрын

@@cyberfunk3793 agree. I feel its people who have lost their perpose in life. Usually adults with no family or ones who havent built their own families. They’re ostracized and feel on the fringe so they glue then selves to these movements.

@captaincat999

23 күн бұрын

​@@-Nobody-1 as if the only purpose of life should always be family and nature always comes last (if it ever does)? Has it occurred to you that people can be sincere without your bs popular psychology analysis? and what about environmental activists who have families? your explanation doesn't quite work on that one.

@figaro-dg5c5

11 күн бұрын

​@@-Nobody-1yes, and they are also manipulated by the leaders of these "movements".

Electric cars are the starting piece for a fully sustainable, clean energy economy. Everything else will follow once we have enough electric cars on the streets.

Eco-terrorists not eco-activists.

I'm really sorry for the future you young people are facing. My generation believed in progress. Take care, thanks for your courage.

Amazing they couldn’t have found a brown field site to build on.

Follow the money. Check who’s paying them to be staying in those tees. Won’t be surprised at all to learn that it’s the legacy auto makers who are funding them through a third party.

@SkyRiver1

23 күн бұрын

Everyone already knows that VW group sponsors the enviornmentalist that have been against Tesla from the beginning. The German auto industry is like the mafia. Just look at the history of the cheating they have done on environmental issues. like diesel emissions computer scams, just to mention one.

But why he also cooks with Gas ?

@duncan.o-vic

27 күн бұрын

Maybe because there is no cleaner/legal/affordable alternative... Polluting in small scales doesn't matter, it's capitalism that drives the climate change.

@insertclevername4362

27 күн бұрын

​@duncan.o-vic so you guys are way ahead, what you guys are talking about is the stage of humanity where we don't need personal transportation; I don't think any government is aiming for that, ev's are the future they are pushing. I think these guys just hate Elon

@kaigogolin515

26 күн бұрын

@@duncan.o-vicwhy are the protesters not fighting any of the German gasoline manufacturers? You are actually supporting more gasoline car production with this protest. It’s a shame and the protesters look like hypocrites.

@outerik90

26 күн бұрын

​@@duncan.o-vicgood that everyone don't try to justify it like you do 🤬

@anydaynow01

26 күн бұрын

And building their houses from wood?

India said, Come here bro.. but they chose Germany & China. If you feed a rich person, he will critize how it could have been better., vs if you feed a hungry one, he will be grateful and will try to give something back in return.

Anyone noticed the Rockstar Games sticker in the yellow water level indicator? -7:02-

I'm from Germany... Here you see the results of our ruined education system...

Did they need a new school? I heard the birth rate is in the negative growth in Germany.

"We can't afford to keep going like this" - *proceeds to turn on gas stove and pour oat milk*

They are just too much free times

Why do they confirm the physical stereotypes? Exactly as one would imagine

I think that’s a man made monoculture forest. 😂😂😂😂 I would feel bad if that’s a natural park.

Germany is a free country, you can pretend to be an environmentalist and intentionally slow down the transition to affordable and sustainable energy solutions. Tesla do not have to explain how to carry out your own emissions reduction strategy. You, environmentalists am sure are educated person to know what to do.

Is that dude burning propane to cook. Damn everyone loves sweet sweet propane

Are the activists receiving money/support from Tesla's competitors?

She said first that what they are doing is very difficult...

11:40 to 11:55 explains it all.

@av_oid

7 күн бұрын

That’s the TL;DR👍

Industrialization and jobs must help humanity. It shouldn't be cause for ending humanity by harming nature. It doesn't matter your idealogy is left or right, being selfish creates rift between human industrialization and nature.

What about vw diesel scam. Did someone from those people made protest ? Newspaper people should find out that

Oxygen giving trees are more important than tesla

Roman burning gas for breakfast and being eco activist against green car 🤯 make it make sense

Elon is the greatest African American.

Why didn’t Roman just walked to the company instead of taking bus? And using the drill machine instead of hammer? And the other climbing equipments? Fighting against capitalism through capitalism. Such clowns.

No mention of where the funding comes from… (Everyone suddenly looks at VW)

Couldn't Tesla use a brown field site?...

@paulrautenbach

26 күн бұрын

Maybe there are no brown field sites as big as this. This site is enormous.

@av_oid

7 күн бұрын

This is an industrial site - it’s a forestry monoculture, not a natural forest. The trees were planted to be cut down.

All industry is polluting. Criticisms, even valid ones, are easy. What is a practical alternative for Germany and for the world?

Aaaahahahaha natürlich is BWL-Bernd für die Fabrik ich schmeiss mich weg😂

These folks don't realize they work for big oil. Such a shame to see passion so misdirected.

Is this how they expect people to live in the long run? How will you buy the food if you don’t work or have a way to work. What clothes would you wear? What would you eat off of? Everything is made from fossil fuels of some type.

A society as devided as can be. The howling over the depletion of economy, the lack of qualitative jobs, the lack of technological advancement is met with as a heightened and absurd need to put environmental values above the economic and thus general betterment. A schism between the german society which not only creates furious opinion exchanges, political complications, but also hinders the country to move on and decide on what the road should be. Both sides as vulptures, never daring to make a compromise, both blindly following their ideologies and lacking understanding of the other side. It never occurs to them, nor to any other western country in that sense, that a compromised strategy, containg both ideas and values, is the best way. Were it so that they tolerated one another, then they would warmly welcome Tesla and simply apply finitude(bureaucracy, regulations) so that the eco-side is represented as strong as the economical one. But no! No factory at all is better. Sleepy babies, people of no true opinion and despairing lackers of the self and its duty to relate itself to society in a good and resepcted manner. The ideology over the self, the ideology over the nation, the ideology over all. And i wonder, on their death-beds will they regret, will they recognize? This goes to each single individual.❤

❤️❤️❤️ sending you love from California 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

I love how polite everyone is. Great protest. I may not agree with them. But they are going about it the right way.

@cyberfunk3793

26 күн бұрын

They have 0 common sense, same type of people that ended nuclear power in Germany. Doing more harm than good.

I hope that the protesters are not boring any trees and driving nails.

People can control imformation,but if you can control rare earth minerals? Which Germany has been investing in,and i bet he owns a share

Maybe if Roman dressed and looked like a mentally sound person, employees might be more receptive

That forestry is beautiful tho

@ttkddry

8 күн бұрын

It is a monoculture plantation, the trees will be harvested to make cardboard

Very strange to me that they decided to give Tesla space to build in the forest. Germany is a big country. How they couldn't find a more deserted place.

@shiakas

26 күн бұрын

That's a mono plantation of low quality man-planted trees destined for paper production. Its not a forest.

@mark9294

26 күн бұрын

Germany isn’t that big compared to its population

@briansmith1371

26 күн бұрын

It’s not a forest, DW is spreading misinformation. It’s crop for making cardboard. If you stop cardboard, you are going to get more plastic packaging. Also, it uses almost no water and is surrounded by things like coal mines which suck up all the water .

@SkyRiver1

23 күн бұрын

How about: because it is next to their plant einstein.

Eco activists against electric mobility, which should be emission free.

@bjarkih1977

27 күн бұрын

you did watch the video? there's also the issue of drinking water.

@brunotrennepohl1

27 күн бұрын

🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

@DanaPearsonVastman

27 күн бұрын

​​@@bjarkih1977Putin puppet much? let's see. We can suck up tons more drinking water for coal but not clean EVs... I have to assume you work for Putin

@EarnestBunbury

27 күн бұрын

Cutting down trees isn‘t very ecological, especially in an area that already suffers from insufficient rainfall. The fabric ‚s area is massive and the Waters cant‘t reach the soil, therefore the renainingtrees Are in danger of dying, too. But the activists despise the factory also because Tesla producesluxzry cars, that, prinarily are an excuse for wealthy resource hungre people, who primarily care about bering admired for their car, instead of helpibg the climate. Otherwise, they would not buy a New car, but Walk, take a bike or use public teansportation. Cars Like Tesla Are nothing but an excuse to continue living like there is no climate crisis.

@duncan.o-vic

27 күн бұрын

But it happens to not be emission free, and it happens to be overproduced beyond the capabilities of current electric grids.

Who is paying the bills? Who is organizing the party?

Glad he used a gas cooker to make his food. Lol

Are they tree elves? 😂

So I'm thinking about this in what I'm referring to as climate awareness stages. in this case i disagreed with Elon Musk would rank tree protestors as higher level of climate awareness. If you we're to deep focusing on electric cars vs gas cars it would appear EV would be the more green option but now when you compare the strategy of what the tree protestor is saying it's true a universal busing system is more green then building more cars it's just reality even EV cars have to mine lithium and destroy trees plus all other parts that become landfill pollution. I'm disagreeing with Elon Musk on this 1 as lost the debate. But fact that it's people fighting over different ways to improve environment instead of people against climate deniers I take as progress

Roman the Tesla protestor wears really looking weird clothes and expects to be taken seriously?

@av_oid

6 күн бұрын

Haven’t seen skorts on someone in years!

BYD likes it👍😜

So who gets to choose who’s allowed a car then? These are just anarchists.

Why did he build it in Germany or Western Europe for that matter? It makes ZERO economic or political sense. Not only are these countries plagued with Red-Green lunatics, they're much costlier to do business in. They should've chosen one of the Eastern European countries. Poland, especially Poznan or Gdansk would've made excellent locations for the gigafactory.

mein frau at 11:40 is a real one

Really strange atmosphere/vibe at the Tesla plant.. I get people being late for work but that wasn’t it. It reminded me of when reporters come to visit places in Ukraine or Romania where something illigal is going on. I’m guessing Tesla doesn’t allow their employees to speak to the press even a country like Germany? I find that super odd and a red flag if that’s the case. Even government employees are allowed to speak to the pres in normal countries. Even the military is. Maybe the video made it look like this but if true it’s even bigger red flag than Musk and anything he’s involved in is inherently.

Nada que está oculto que não vem a luz Deus no comando de tudo conhecimento e vida nos liberta

This is not the high culture you expect to be displayed by German society

But they don't mind Volkswagen factories?

Remember when these Eco activists protested against all the nuclear leading to Germany needing to burn more coal 😂😂😂.

I was all for the “we can do better than this…” for the climate narrative, up until minute 18, where the problem switches from “what policy and technology shall we develop” to “how to restrict individual’s autonomy of transport”… we ran that experiment, governments must bud out of personal matters and serve individuals (first) then society, and not society over individual…

Wait wait wait did that “expert” just say where he is is turning into a semi arid climate 😂😂😂😂 does he know what a semi arid climate looks like! 😂

it's important to understand we live in democracy and there are voices that we need to ignore. The amount of damage german climate activists have done to environment is insane. German actvists will rather have coal plant than a nuclear facility

Environment activist who use plastic container for their foods.. good job 👍

I’m pro Tesla here. We’ve got to build it somewhere and we can’t just destroy one area of factories in order to build another. That’d take even longer. The damage done by building factories like these is massively offset by what they produce, if they can do it. This is clearly just ‘not in my backyard’ (NIMBY) politics going on here. Same thing happens with some people against wind turbines and solar panels.

@Newbyte

26 күн бұрын

Why do we have to build more car factories?

@duncan.o-vic

26 күн бұрын

No, Tesla is not helping environment, it is exploiting both environment and workers as well as consumers.

@MrDanisve

26 күн бұрын

Yea, but we have other options thats the idea. Not just continue this weird form consumption economics. Wind turbines fine if they are used on allready used area. But here in Norway they want to chop down our forests to make windturbines, aswell at scar nature with more roads so they can maintain those windturbines. So friggn silly when we have the technology called nuclear, that takes 1/350th the land area for the energy it produces. Aswell as it minimizing the need for infrastructure, as we can build the generation close to the consumption. But nah, nuclear reactors give little profit for the private sector. Cause nuclear power consume little. Mass production of wind tubines do give lots of profit for private sector, as it requires alot of resources and one can use mass production to make even more money. Our world is rotten. Consumption fueled capitalism is rotten. Tesla is part of the solution temporary. But not by cutting down forests. We need to plant more forests, not make less. Like those woods i see in video. Almost never exist in Norway anymore, cause those trees use 150 years to grow. All our land is private and run by oligarchs that plant only genetic modified spruce for that strait wood that grow fast. And they wont plant pine, cause they cannot make money off trees that take 150 years to grow. Most woods get cut down now and then. Killing all the life in the area. Im so happy for the few patches of virgin forest is have near. But its very limited, due to us being the worlds most privatly owned land. About 94% of our land is owned by various oligarchs. I can drive 2 hours west, all i see is my local oligarchs land. In the old days, all forests around me was pine, now its mainly spruce with a few pines only in the area that borders human population. Cause those pines are owned by homeowners, and not the oligarch. If everyone owned as much land as my local oligarch, Norway would only fit 870 people.

@duncan.o-vic

26 күн бұрын

You obviously don't have good understanding of the problem. Tesla is exploiting environment, workers and consumers. All good electric vehicles do is offset by the unsustainable production, unsustainable infrastructure, unsustainable economics etc. And false sense of doing good while making things worse.

@SkyRiver1

23 күн бұрын

@@bandit6762 Maybe but the coal pollution Germany replaced it with actually kills hundreds of thousands of people NOW, every year, and the ash is toxic too. People just don't know that they are dying from coal pollution in the air they breath because they can be far away from any coal burning plant and still die from it.

Left wing intelligence on full display here. They’re literally stifling the progress of the thing they care the most about. What a bunch geniuses

@av_oid

6 күн бұрын

And cooking with gas, building tree houses with commercial timber products and using electric tools. Geniuses!