In this video, I'm flying the DJI system in "high quality" mode. This means that the latency is about 40-45 ms instead of the typical 25-35 ms that I normally see in "low latency" mode. I figured since the Vista can only record DVR, I wanted the best quality DVR I could get. What do you think? Is this video quality good enough for you, or would you want the Air Unit with on board recording instead?

@bigspeedfpv

4 жыл бұрын

The quality is really good but in my opinion it's not worth it. If I could use a full Air Unit I'd take that over the Vista. I don't think the higher latency is worth it on top of lower quality DVR. Although it is really impressive, I don't think I'll switch any time soon - I mainly race and the variable latency threw me off when I tried to fly. Back to the question - I'd prefer the Air Unit, no question. It doesn't have OSD clutter, doesn't have the blockiness from breakup and doesn't double the latency (as far as I know...?)

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

For the record, the OSD is not recorded in the DVR. I put that there for you to see while editing.

@bigspeedfpv

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell Oh that makes sense! That definitely closes the gap significantly, then it really just depends on what you prefer for latency.

@checkeredflagfilms

4 жыл бұрын

For cine-style professional work I do, I definitely require the on-board unit.

@npaine01

4 жыл бұрын

This is why I ended up going with the Rocket Plus rather than the Lite, for the on-board DVR.

Joshua - Thank you for a great review! I just got the GEPRC Rocket and agree that it is not a specific type of quad - it is little bit Cinewhoop, a little bit Freestyle - I really like it and this is my first DJI FPV system - it is hard to go back to my Fat Sharks! Thanks!

I just ordered a beetle with TBS receiver because of your review! Thanks Bardwell!

I got the GEPRC rocket just yesterday finally after waiting a month for them to mail it from China. Very frustrating. Need to set it up still so thank you for your video. Love the magnetic usb. Ordered that but will take 3 weeks as Amazon is way behind now too. I hope I can get the cable into the system to setup otherwise I’ll be waiting a while again. Love tk fly this weekend.

Wow learning about that magnet doodad was the coolest part of this video.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Those 90° magnetic USB are the bomb.

This was very helpful! Thank you for this video!

My Rocket has been in transit for over a month due to the COVID chronic. I hope to see it someday soon, but hope everyone in CN and USA ports are healthy. Newbie drone learnin can wait, yo.

cool little DJI unit... I may get the system pretty soon ... thanks!

I put a Vista on my 3" Armattan Gecko frame, fit perfect and is a sh_t load of fun to fly, especially in the yard during this zombie apocalypse lol

Hi, great video as usual. Will you test the iflight dc2 titan ?

Thanks man, you the best... I was waiting for the rocket plus, but I can't wait any longer,,, my dji goggles are under the tree with a nazgul hd, and I had to have a micro so I bought the lite,,,woo hoo

Professional footage is the best footage available for a given situation. News coverage use footage from cell phones (really bad footage) all the time, because that's the available footage. There are and will be situations where a DJI air unit is the best, and maybe only, available solution. The conclusion of it all is that the DJI air unit, and the small quads that carry them are, will be, and should be in a professional's quiver. EXCELLENT REVIEW!

Now that there's a Plus version of the Rocket, it seems like there are some really solid options for 2-2.5" quads with full-size air units. I'm fantasizing about a shootout between that, the iFlight DC2, and the Transtec Beetle. I'm not sure which 2-2.5" DJI-HD quad to pick up for summer flying. But a shootout like that would make it easier to decide 🙂

I have that USB cable for my cinewhoop. Saves a lot of time and frustration

There is a Transtec Beetle Vista version on Transtec's Homepage soon to be out.

You can cram a full size DJI air unit in GEPRC rocket platform. The camera sticks out a bit, but if you are a good pilot, you can handle it.

Joshua, I may be at fault here, but just in case it was an oversight (assumptions and all), I simply followed your link for the NetDot USB cables, but failed to notice they were USB-C and not USB micro-A. I just assumed the latter, as every stack I've encountered in my limited time FPV (thanks for all the insightful and free videos) has had the micro-A plugs. I just wanted to throw that out there. Luckily its easy to order the connectors by themselves. Outside of that a solid recommendation.

As far as running a GoPro Session... I've got the GepRC CinePro (same frame) with 1105 4500kv XING motors, ditched the prop guards for 2.5" props. And ditched the Caddx Tarsier for a Foxeer Micro Arrow Pro and run a 650mah lipo with the Session. All while staying at 248 grams, and ripping like a beast. Just saying it is possible to run a GoPro on this frame. 👍

@joshua bardwell Would be interesting to know if you can compare it with the iflight alpha a85 hd, the geprc thinking p16 and what would you recommend??

Hello Joshua, I was wondering if you would be covering the Geprc rocket plus. I'm curious if the weight difference would significantly effect the flight characteristics. Thanks!

@JB...there is a whole other category of flier you never address...the proximity/explorer/park flier! Lol...I know it sounds boring to you freestyle/racing junkies BUT lots of us just dig firing it up...pod racing it thru the trees , exploring the canopies, and “lookin around” from that unique perspective only a quad can provide...

Yoooo JB thank you this is the video i've been needing all week....

@TheTomJon

4 жыл бұрын

Oh... it's about DJI... never mind...

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

See you tomorrow!

Wait... Is this a course in liftoff!? Watching this video, I slowly transitioned from a very strange feeling of deja vu, to realizing that I know this backyard in great detail lol! I badly expected to fly through the slot in the wooden fence

What about trying out the Transtec beetle 3inch frame with the Vista and build it yourself? They also offer the 2inch beetle with a Vista now for $279 on their site.

Joush love you but you have to love the Armattan marmuite with the air unit ....lifetime warranty on the frame....my bad not for indoors

Hello good review,tell me it's good drone this rocket plus HD? you recommended it ?

I like my 95x, I know what you mean about it being cobled together but I thought it was the best option for someone newer to this like me that wants to hit gaps and fly around the yard. However yesterday I started having issues with it. I've done the Naco hack and when I try to switch from say 700mw to 1000mw it will go to 1000 then bounce right back to 700 and the signal bars go red and screen gets very distorted until signal comes back. It does when switching to any power, eventually i can get it to stay where I want it. It was fine after the hack, this just started. On latest firmware. Any advice? I contacted betafpv and they told me to contact the dealer but curious if you've heard if this with the Vista? Thanks for all you do JB. Stay safe!

I just received my GEPRC Rocket Plus with the full size DJI Air Unit the other day . I hope to fly it some this weekend . Love the magnetic USB idea , thanks . The link to the cables is for USB C only though . Do you have a link to the right angle Mini USB ones the the FC uses ?

@mipuist

3 жыл бұрын

I tend to avoid magnetic stuff touching my flight controller, I wonder if I am overcautious :).

Can you fit 2.5" on the rocket without the prop guards? I bet it would fly 10x better on 2.5".

That USB cable is a really clever solution! Love it! Watching the review (in preperation of my late review) already payed off ;)

Do you have any comparison between these three regarding flight time? Or is it roughly the same? What are we looking at roughly?

Hey! Noticed you replaced the trampoline mat! Is that an 84 spring 12ft mat? Where’d you get it? Ours is about to go (after 20 years, I can’t complain)...

If you were going to put an Insta360 Go on one of these, would you still go the Beetle, or switch to Rocket Lite? Or would you go the Beetle Mini with vista to save weight? Thanks JB!

I watched your previous review of the beetle, ordered one and promptly broke one of the arms...right at the point you pointed out, in the review, where it would most likely occur! Good observation. Any case, I proceed to order another lower assembly from trans-tec. It was out-of-stock for the first week then shipped the following week. (they shipped China Post which has iffy tracking) That was over a MONTH ago! As yet, I have not received the replacement. Trans-tec says it's arrived in the US but is being held up in US customs. Something I understand is happening for many shipment from Asia. So there you have it. Btw...I did enjoy the 5 minutes I had with the quad.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh. That sucks man. In the end, nothing is indestructible, but personally I feel the Beetle is reasonably durable and I hope you just got unlucky.

@checkeredflagfilms

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell As a side note, with another quad I kept here this howling sound when I'd punch it and didn't think too much about it, thought it was a characteristic of that model. In any case, I had a crash and broke one the props and when I removed it, noticed I'd mounted it upside down! As of now, no more howling noises and I'm getting longer flight times. The things you do.

Can you review the geprc rocket plus and compare it to the transtec beetle?

Seems to me, what would make more sense than ROCKET Lite Caddx Vista HD FPV would be one of these: * ROCKET Plus DJI Air Unit HD FPV * CineGO Caddx Vista HD FPV * CineRun HD3 DJI Air HD FPV Can you review these?

I know ur house from my simulator xD

From box goggles, to dji,,, ooohhh I can't wait

I still feel like that the vista is better suited for bigger models. Yes that sounds completely wrong at first, but it provides HD DVR. That feature is completely useless when you mount a gopro or somehing similar on your 5", but really shines on smaller quads.

Newbie question (currently learning...ahm...more crashing but trying to get into my Novice 4) - is the footage that we see in the video the same what you see in the DJI Goggles?

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Basically identical.

@brennerfineart

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell Wow...ok...need to get the DJI system...what I see in the Novice 4 Goggle is not really what I was hoping for. Thanks for your feedback! And keep up the great work, really got a lot of good tips from your videos :-)))

what is better lipo 850mha ? for quiet and long flight

how good is the Caddx Vista Polar on this Quad?

Just ordered mine and about to throw my naked gopro on it. Challenge accepted!

Caddx vista is 29 gram, DJI air Unit is 46 gram, Naked GoPro6 is 17 gram. Makes the Caddx + gopro, the same weight as a single DJI air Unit.

what battery would u recommend with this

7:58 huh, I ripped an arm off my geprc cygnet in a crash, and its frame looks very similar to this one

Cool move @ 2:59 gonna practice that one

FYI: You can also get the GEPRC Rocket (not Lite) with a full sized Air unit, as well as the Transtec Beetle Lite with the Caddx Vista.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

That's correct -- but since I haven't tested those, I didn't include them in the comparison.

@meralharbes

4 жыл бұрын

​@@JoshuaBardwell No judgment intended. I consume and appreciate a lot of your content and work you do for the FPV community. Because of this I would like to bring this to your attention: I find it important to mention the other versions exist, because you reason multiple times in the video that the Rocket Lite is missing recording and audio and thus is not suited well for cinematic flying and shots. Because of this judgment, some pilots will trust you to give them all the information about the product that there currently is. You don't mention there is a non-"Lite" version that could at least partially fill this need. You at least once even call it just the "Rocket" as well which, while unintended and normally unproblematic, aids the thought that it's the only version there is. I spend a lot of time researching, comparing and judging the Beetle, Rocket, iFlight DC3 and all their version since your review of the Beetle and bought one of them. If I would have watched this video without doing my homework, I would have ruled the Rocket out on principle, not knowing you were just talking about the light version. A ton of work goes into these videos, the schedule is always tight and there is so much production going on behind the scenes, I get you can't always get even close to everything you want into a video. Thank you for all your effort and great output!

I bought the beta basically because the vista is sold out everywhere. So I figured if nothing else I can strip it for the motors FC and vista. I also have a TransTEC beetle. I broke the frame. Waiting for my replacement from China. Virus is making that take forever.

you are right the GEPRC Rocket isn't in this comparison, and if so you missing the iFlight DC2 as it's literally the same (with some design flaws)

Build a 3 inch with the air unit with 6S

So I'm pretty new to the hobby and my first quad is a vista/polar on a grprc baby crocodile lr. Is there an easy way to add audio to the quad? I assume a mic can be added to the quad, can the audio signal be setup for transmission over the dji?

@JoshuaBardwell

2 жыл бұрын

The DJI FPV system does not support audio transmission when using the Air Unit and Vista. The DJI FPV quad can send audio, so in theory the system could support it, but when using Air Unit and Vista (e.g. when building your own) you can't do audio.

I really love the GepRC models, or at least most of them. (I honestly don't remember one I disliked.) But DJI isn't for me right now... Who knows about the future.

nice scamp trailer i want that scamp lol

I still think the DC3 from iFlight is best with it's 1404 motors and 3" props.

Because nobody has the transtec I built a 2 “ kwad with the full air unit . On 4s Iflight 1404 3800kv . Avan props 2.5 mins . I wanted the transtec but oh well for now

Wow, net dot right angle magnet cables all gone from the amazon! Good job 👍🏻

@dawsonmobley

4 жыл бұрын

I want some but they don't have a microusb tip for them anymore that I can find?

@georgitushev

4 жыл бұрын

@@dawsonmobley I got my from newegg but they are out of stock too: www.newegg.com/p/181-02H5-00268?Item=9SIA7WMAT33333

Shop and warehouse flying is what it's suited for because wind and prop ducts don't get along at all.

Sure beats analog DVR which frequently also does not record audio.

Damn it.. I started with a 83 Euro Emax EZ Pilot (Set), than I want the 210 Euro Eachine Novice 3, than maybe as a "trainier" the Emax Tinyhawk 2 Freestyle and than....GEPRC Rocket with DJI Digital for together 1300 Euro :P uff... its getting fast expensive.

Josh I had a question in regards to the DJI FPV goggles. What battery do I use with that? Or what would you suggest?

@mrb2917

4 жыл бұрын

I bring a big 4s pack (6700mAh lol) to the park with me for the goggles. Fly all day no worries about running low on goggle juice. If you're only going to be out for an hour ish you could get by with a cheap, common 3s 2200mAh pack made for RC planes.

I don't see any 90 degree angle connector on provided Amazon link, and only in comments mentioned "only 6.6ft gen 12 cables with L shipe."

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

What the hell. I literally purchased this exact item last week and they had the 90 degree.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

This may be an equivalent alternative: amzn.to/2wCt8rv

@PurpleLich

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell This does not seem to be right angle either. There must be a run on L-adapters. Ha!

By stator volume an 1106 motor is bigger than a 1204. No disrespect intended. Thanks for all the vids.

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

That's actually the 2nd time I've made that mistake.

This rocket is for me

Flight times?

Could any of these take a gopro? Would make an incredible tiny gap machine.

@megacanam

4 жыл бұрын

Naked GoPro, strip one down to the camera and board. there are videos of this.

I want to know what drone you used in an old rotor riot video, it’s called teaching fpv in 24 hours or something

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Newbeedrone Acrobee.

@yunglogical6398

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Bardwell THANK YOU it was so smooth and I really wanted it.

waiting for a sub 10ms version

I can't find replacement prop guards to save my life. Any ideas?

@fpvwithme

2 жыл бұрын

The Geprc CineKing prop guards fit the rocket lite as well. I had to buy these because the rocket lite guards don't seem to exist.

I just put a GoPro on it! Works perfectly fine! Just joking... 🙃 Great video

Good

10:57 is that a grave on the right??

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. A family buried their patriarch on their own land.

The guy with probably over 100 camera drones: "here is a picture of my property from google earth to show you the trees"

What 5 in did you use in teaching fpv in 24 hours

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

It was one of Drew's freestyle quads.

Maybe when DJI makes a module for the HDO's I'll swap over to a digital system. Till then the expense and time involved isnt really worth it.

@BlkInc1

3 жыл бұрын

Time involved?

@4DCResinSmoker

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlkInc1 Despite being retiremd military, I don't live in the US so shipping = time that can be better spent on other things. Note: In Germany. Keep in mind that time = money, or for the postal service how much they end up charging you to ship a $800-900 pair of goggles before slapping you with an import fee between 17 -50% on top of everything else. So yeah I have to be really careful what I order as the costs / delays can grow unexpectedly.

The rocket is at the top of my list for dji quads. I just need to get a set of those goggles first😅😅

Josh Bardwell..... The only man that knows every cubic millimeter of his property, up to a height of 20 meters

I dare you to fly a drone through your fence Heheheh

Hmmm I’m waiting for the DC2.

@houseofquad2260

4 жыл бұрын

Did you buy a DC2 and are you happy with it ?

@MindRiderFPV

4 жыл бұрын

House of Quad Still happy with the DC3. I see a DC5 in the future :-)

@houseofquad2260

4 жыл бұрын

MindRider I have a DC5 already and I love how it flies. I’m just worried the DC2 is a bit heavy for its size. I’m desperate for a tiny DJI build and really can’t seem to decide one which to get.

@MindRiderFPV

4 жыл бұрын

House of Quad You can see how the 3 does in my video. Love it.

@MindRiderFPV

4 жыл бұрын

House of Quad I would probably go A85/95, but small ones can’t fly in wind, and you have to battle jello and vibrations.

Uhhm. The amazon links to the usb adapters are all the same. 😜

Here's the Micro USB version of the referenced cable www.amazon.com/NetDot-Magnetic-Charging-Transfer-Compatible/dp/B07QFW55H7?ref_=ast_sto_dp

@JoshuaBardwell

4 жыл бұрын

The cables I have ordered come with both micro, iPhone, and USB-C tips. There are three tips per cable.

This is the exact reason i purchased the GEPRC Rocket PLUS... Exact same dimensions of the frame build, Unit fits snug in the middle. . I also use the DJI Controller so no need to add an extra Receiver mod. I can record 1080p DVR on the unit and its a top mount. Best of all. And the weight balance is actually awesome. You will NOT feel any weight difference compare to the Lite version. Watch Drone camps RC review of the PLUS , he did this following video AFTER he did the exact same review as this JB Video - Check it out kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3-ZrsxsfsvNqto.html

am i the firstest?!

can you add a sub for this video, i'm from asia and i'm not good at listening to english,thank bro