Geostrategy of the Peloponnesian War 3: The Archidamian War

Could a new generation of Athenian and Spartan leaders succeed, where Pericles and King Archidamus failed? This is part 3/5 in a re-examination of the strategies used in the 2nd Peloponnesian War. This video focuses on Athens' changed attitude under Cleon, his contribution to Athens' ascendancy, and how Sparta managed to eke out a white peace despite all that.
Video 1 on CaspianReport's channel: • Geopolitics of the Pel...
SCRIPT: strategosstuff.blogspot.com/2...
All errors are my own - especially the unsystematic pronunciation!
▬ CHAPTERS ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 - Introduction
0:27 - [I] A New Kind of War
6:33 - [II] Athens: Cleon's Strategic Offensive
11:39 - [III] Athens: The Culminating Point
15:44 - [IV] Sparta: Gambling on Brasidas
20:21 - [V] Conclusion
▬ SOURCES ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War [Bks 3, 4, 5]
www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/t...
Kagan D. The Archidamian War. Cornell University Press 1990.
Hanson V. A War Like No Other. Random House 2006.
Henderson B. The Great War Between Athens and Sparta. Hauraki 2015.
Lazenby J. The Peloponnesian War: A Military Study. Routledge 2007.
Rusch S. Sparta at War. Frontline, 2011.
Sears M. Understanding Greek Warfare. Routledge 2019.
▬ ATTRIBUTIONS ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Google Maps for the maps and the placement of the towns. Locations corroborated with Wikipedia (i.e. Corinth today is not where ancient Corinth was). Roads follow the route of modern highways, but they seem to match ancient routes well enough.
Wikipedia for approximate borders.
Made using Powerpoint 2013, Audacity, WavePad and VideoPad.

Пікірлер: 34

  • @DensetsuVII
    @DensetsuVII4 жыл бұрын

    Wow when you said the next videos were coming out soon, you weren't kidding around! Clearly Pericles' wait and see strategies aren't bearing fruit for the channel.

  • @joeyb.7484
    @joeyb.74844 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is a gem of KZread

  • @cynic2201
    @cynic22014 жыл бұрын

    Please make a patreon, I really wanna give you money. You are my favorite KZreadr by FAR and I love every single video you make.

  • @user-zu6hm6vw2q
    @user-zu6hm6vw2q4 жыл бұрын

    Very nice videos. It's always great to see some accurate series about a war so forgotten yet so historically relevant as the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides would be proud :)

  • @antisocialmunky
    @antisocialmunky4 жыл бұрын

    Again a great video. I hope you cover all of Alcerbides' shenanigans in full detail since he's so influential in the last phases of this war.

  • @ShahjahanMasood
    @ShahjahanMasood4 жыл бұрын

    Wooooooo!!!! I love these videos

  • @mirceadonciu4983
    @mirceadonciu49834 жыл бұрын

    Just want to say I really love your videos. Could you maybe do the geopolitics of France between the 30 years war and the revolution?

  • @tobago3679
    @tobago36794 жыл бұрын

    thanks, man, as always great video and engaging content!

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess4 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff as always.

  • @giveussomevodka
    @giveussomevodka4 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me a bit about the 20th century wars in Europe. I read somewhere that WWI was a war between the Germans and the Slavs for control of Eastern Europe, and that since in the end there was no obvious leader, WWII had to be fought to determine the outcome. In that same way, the many wars between Sparta and Athens are merged to be the same war, since until an obvious dominant force emerges, there can be no peace, only truce.

  • @Showergelski

    @Showergelski

    4 жыл бұрын

    This viewpoint is common knowledge in eastern European populations (specifically the Polish and Russians), and yet is ignored in western Europe and America, who's people prefer the idea that the Second World War was an ideological war between fascism and democracy. However, this ethnic conflict didn't start a few years before the First World War, but in the tenth century.

  • @StrategyStuff

    @StrategyStuff

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well... for WWI specifically, mainly in the sense that Balkans were the only 'unclaimed' spheres of influence left available to Austria (AUS-PRU war 1866) and Russia (RUS-JAP war 1905). If Russia had won RUS-JAP the 'Asiatic' lobby might well have shifted policy towards expansion in C Asia/China - to the grave concern of UK. BUT yes, geographers like Mackinder did see Eastern Europe as a key to Eurasian domination so geopolitically, you could argue there was some long-term underlying conflict there.

  • @alexanderchristopher6237

    @alexanderchristopher6237

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mateusz Surdziel can’t really blame the West for it. They’re pretty much dragged into those two world wars thanks to defensive alliances.

  • @carlosdumbratzen6332

    @carlosdumbratzen6332

    4 жыл бұрын

    I find the comparison Herfried Münkler makes (a relatively famous historian and political scientist from Germany) between the 30 Years War and the Peloponesian War much more fitting than between the Pelop. War and the two World Wars: The line between War and Peace is much less clear in the 30 Years War and the conflict between Athens and Sparta. Treaties are disregarded, everywhere are rebellions spawning and the civilians are equally seen as targets as the soldiers (The incredible losses of the 30YW are results of the rampant marauding and looting of the mercenaries and the resulting famines and epidemics. Similarily the raiding of Sparta in Attika and Athens on the coasts of the Peloponnes, targeting the farms or the people to persuade them to defect) Here is an Interview with him, where he talks a bit about the similarities between the 30YW and the Pelop. War (if you understand german ofc): kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKCms66DmZjSdLg.html

  • @25easytiger37

    @25easytiger37

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like Germans and Slavs vs Germans and Slavs

  • @jordanhicken7812
    @jordanhicken78124 жыл бұрын

    These are so good!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory4 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video. I learned so much

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory4 жыл бұрын

    i love how detailed your videos are and how much analysis you put into them. You are so smart

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad4 жыл бұрын

    Damn I am so hyped for part 4

  • @parkersenecal5547
    @parkersenecal55474 жыл бұрын

    I never clicked on a recommendation so fast!

  • @rojetsmith2759
    @rojetsmith27594 жыл бұрын

    Please do the Spartan vs Argos war

  • @astrolonim2032
    @astrolonim20322 жыл бұрын

    This series is amazing. Shame I didn’t see it on caspianreport, so i could have found the channel sooner

  • @aqui1ifer
    @aqui1ifer Жыл бұрын

    5:27 Aetolians being a thorn in the side of Hellenic powers, classic.

  • @chris7372
    @chris73724 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early the Median empire was still around.

  • @Nick-tn3ms
    @Nick-tn3ms3 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid

  • @angquangtruong360
    @angquangtruong3604 жыл бұрын

    Love your content, do you plan for a patreon site?

  • @abcdef2069
    @abcdef20692 жыл бұрын

    damn this video needs Ph.D to follow, i lost in the mists of all names and arrows

  • @tyercuuhbitu2219
    @tyercuuhbitu22194 жыл бұрын

    P a c k a g e d e a l

  • @michaelrider
    @michaelrider4 жыл бұрын

    Athens will win. I'm certain.

  • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

    4 жыл бұрын

    Idk sparta has some good tactics

  • @jarogniewtheconqueror2804

    @jarogniewtheconqueror2804

    4 жыл бұрын

    michael, if money wins wars then they should win

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw4 жыл бұрын

    11 minutes after posting i am surely the fifth

  • @lucius1976
    @lucius19764 жыл бұрын

    Kleon was killed at the beach of Amphepolis. Everyone knows that :-)

  • @alecjones4135
    @alecjones41354 жыл бұрын

    Please make a Patreon account I want to send you money