7:38 I always thought Spear's freak out was out of fear because the last time a short old lady covered him in something it was for a sacrificial ritual.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

A good point!

@frosttheicefloeturtle8143

Жыл бұрын

true true

@t-rexcellentreviews1663

Жыл бұрын

That was my thought as well, their is some more than minor resemblance between the Celtic Healer and the Shamanka Witches, but I do appreciate the fact that even when he is seriously freaked out by what’s happening around him, Spear still has enough restraint to never go for the kill with any of the Celts as he tries to escape the village, he dodges and knocks their warriors back, but never kills or seriously hurts any of the villagers, and only appeared to be ready to do so when he was finally cornered until the chief intervened and calmed the situation.

"Bear Cavelry are pretty cool, but just how feasible are they?" Ursun protects worthy Kislivites.

@Defeateddragon

Жыл бұрын

FOR URSUN FOR KISLEV

@ZackStormYT

Жыл бұрын

Blood for the blood god skulls for the skull throne 😈

@schaddenkorp6977

Жыл бұрын

Taalhim!

One really interesting thing I noticed in "The Primal Theory" was the saber-toothed cat in the room. Given the animal heads on the wall, it was clearly taxidermied, which would mean that some previously extinct animals were still around by the time the episode took place. It's a minor detail, but it was one that made me want to see even more of Primal's universe and how history progressed in it.

@kennethsatria6607

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it possible that its a sculpture or recreation of a Sabertoothed cat?

@tylerleach8796

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethsatria6607 next to taxidermied animals? Yeah, I don't really buy it.

@Morrison-saber-tooth

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerleach8796 don't forget, the taxidermed saber tooth cat is same as smilodon in night feeder episode

@tylerleach8796

Жыл бұрын

@@Morrison-saber-tooth pretty sure that one is a coincidence.

@Manco65

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerleach8796 then you've obviously never seen what a good taxidermist can do. It's very feasible for someone with a bit of discretionary funds to commission such work

I'm pretty sure, the why, The Colossaeus is *THAT BIG* , it's for preventing aquatic creatures like this +60 meters Megalodon to attack. If The Colossaeus was a simple ship, 1 bite would swallow the entire ship.

@telson1583

Жыл бұрын

But all the other ships are regular size...

@malachibest463

Жыл бұрын

@@telson1583 there for raiders they land troops near the shore or ram other ships and then return

@MR.CLEAN777

Жыл бұрын

@@malachibest463 ye he explained that in the vid i guess he didnt listen

@thomasmeyer2789

Жыл бұрын

It could be an allegory for the mysterious sea peoples that ransacked the Mediterranean and caused the downfall of many civilizations.

The Horned God took back his power because the Chief essentially won. Sure Spear kicked his butt down the mountain but he was fatally wounded in the process. The Chief even felt satisfied, given the content tone of his final words before being dragged back to Not Hell.

@Quinnaka

Жыл бұрын

If not hell then what is the place he was dragged to.

@justusb.plorer8773

Жыл бұрын

@@Quinnaka As Unnatural History Channel pointed out, the horned god is likley inspired by Surtr, the king of the fire jotuns (giants) and sworn enemy of the Aesir (the line of gods that includes Odin, Thor and their immediate relatives) in norse mythology. Therefore, the realm he resides in is best described as an interpretation of Muspelheim, the fiery wasteland realm that is home to the fire jotuns.

@darkerdaemon7794

Жыл бұрын

The chief didn't deserve any kind of satisfaction. It's annoying that the show gave him that.

@Huhwhyee

Жыл бұрын

He did lose his entire family which is in every situation is extremely painful and vengeance is wanted even when the person has done nothing but evil

@tylerleach8796

Жыл бұрын

@@darkerdaemon7794 I mean, Spear gets to have his legacy continued while the chief gets to be dragged back to hell with no legacy as his whole family is dead, and he didn't even get his full revenge as Fang is still alive and well so...was there really satisfaction?

19:08 One thing I've noticed that I haven't seen discussed is that the vikings seem surprised to see Spear mount Fang. This suggests to me that they might've though Spear and Fang attacking at the same time was a bad coincidence, only to realize that they're a coordinated pair. I can't help but imagine what kind of conclusion they might come to if Spear and Fang got away instead of feeling cornered and destroying the village, given that the entire cavalry of bears were hesitant to just one tyrannosaur, and people _usually_ come from tribes, villages, or cities, often with similar cultures and behaviors

@tarobug2560

Жыл бұрын

An interesting line of thought to be sure. I feel if they’d managed to escape the immediate proceedings on the Viking’s behalf would be a lot of “what the actual *fuck*” followed by “so, we’re gonna find those guys and figure out how the hell they’re riding around on giant murder lizards, right?…”

I assumed the difference between Fang and Red was like the difference between a Tyrannosaurus and Tarbosaurus. Different but still closely related species, in this case close enough to still be biologically compatible and capable of producing offspring.

@notthebest2968

Жыл бұрын

My theory was more of a subspecies like quagga and zebra

@thewulf151

11 ай бұрын

Males of bird species tend to be more colorful for their displays, Red having a massive red splotch on his face being a display along with his immediate attempt at courtship at the tree, the protrusions would be such to smack against other males if they had to fight for a female. Id say he was just a young adult trex.

What’s more savage & uncivilised? The fact that Darlington resorted to the primal brutality Darwin said he would to survive, or the fact that Darwin was so easily able to ignore the carnage that had ensued, forget his was within inches of losing his life in a tortuous fashion, immediately view his friend & colleague as a science experiment, and neither display gratitude or empathy for what his friend had just lowered himself to to save both their lives, just to say,”I told ya so!”?

@botep5529

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that part was pretty damn cartoony and cheesy

@tylerleach8796

Жыл бұрын

Hey, Charles is a silver-lining kind of guy.

@tuckernutter

Жыл бұрын

Hey they scorched him at that meeting and if I was in his place I wouldn't hold back a well deserved "I told you so!"

@MugiwaraZero

8 ай бұрын

As fucked as his response was I understand why he acted like that Bro was shat on by everyone and was then proven right I'd say "I told you so" too

@hibernopithecus7500

8 ай бұрын

@@MugiwaraZero That’s my point. If it was me, the fact I was shat on by everyone would be pushed clean out of my head. A literal lunatic just tried to tear me limb from limb, who tf care about what effectively amounts to a little hair mussing!?!? To be able to dissociate himself from that level of violence, the facts that almost all of his friends & colleagues are dead in horrific fashion, and his remaining friend has just become a violent killer, is pretty damn cold, regardless of his cheesy delivery.

While I'm indeed saddened by the fact that Spear died in the end, Spear can’t have lived. The recurring theme of this season kept returning to how Spear is a relic, how he’s a man out of time. There are no more of his people; he is utterly alone. He used to be isolated alongside Fang, but now even she has a family. There is a reason why "Echoes of Eternity" opened by showing how Spear’s father, who was even more primitive than him, died. Spear’s father passed to him this anger and brutality, a primitive, literally subhuman nature that was necessary for survival. That’s why up until Mira showed up, the person Spear connected to most wasn’t even a person; it was a giant murder lizard. Season 2 casts Spear and Fang in a world of humans; a caveman among men, a Neanderthal among Sapiens, and it follows the damage that that causes. From the empathy of the Celtic village, to the Howard-esque depredations of the Queen’s empire, we are made to fully understand that Spear is isolated. At the end of Spear’s story, the metaphorical devil and angel of his life are the transformed Viking and Mira. One of them is a monster that reflects all of Spear’s worst attributes; anger, violence, revenge, and an unrelenting refusal to move forward. But on the other side is Mira, who has brought out the humanity in Spear, who motivated him to leave his isolated bubble of prehistoric violence. When I look at what Mira did what she did and why, I see the recognition of the importance of life in the face of death. There is no such thing as a "good death" in the world of Primal; death is brutal and cheap. What is important is life persevering at all costs. Which brings us to the juncture; how can a man who has no place in the world adapt to it? Through a legacy. Through having the human part of him carried forward by the person who recognized it to begin with. This is the only thing Mira can give Spear as he lays dying; the promise that the best of him, the human part of him, will carry on. To me the saddest aspect coming out of the finale was that it showed even through everything Spear has been through with Fang and Mira he still felt as if he had no true place in their lives. He still felt alone and it was a reminder that no matter what has been happening this was still a man that lost his whole family in episode 1 and no matter what ever found family he had, there was no changing that. He saw Fang was having her own family again and that now Mira was back home with hers. There was nothing for Spear to come back to, there was no legacy there for him to leave behind and no matter how he felt about Mira, being the primal sweetheart that he is, he never just assumed that she would carry that on for him. He never put that pressure on her shoulders. Spear placed himself in the role of Fang, her babies and Mira's protectors and nothing more and in the end it was that need and that want to protect that led to his end. No demon or god was going to get in the way of Spear's duty. After seeing the loneliness through his cave paintings and surely already having her own feelings for Spear as well Mira chose herself to help give Spear that family and that legacy. Even if he wasn't going to be around to see it she made sure he would live on in another. In the end what we saw was the circle of life where no matter the pace it was raw and it was real. In the world of Primal that is incredibly fitting.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

"At the end of Spear’s story, the metaphorical devil and angel of his life are the transformed Viking and Mira. One of them is a monster that reflects all of Spear’s worst attributes; anger, violence, revenge, and an unrelenting refusal to move forward. But on the other side is Mira, who has brought out the humanity in Spear, who motivated him to leave his isolated bubble of prehistoric violence." Oohh, now that's a point I really like!

@Ncholasbloom

Жыл бұрын

woah that makes mira's final scene with spear more meaningful spear's last word is her name she is his hope

@OldGreyGryphon

Жыл бұрын

You sir or madam are a wordsmith and a poet! This is beautiful!

@espantalho4141

Жыл бұрын

"That’s why up until Mira showed up, the person Spear connected to most wasn’t even a person; it was a giant murder lizard" i miss the part where there is something wrong with that

@Ncholasbloom

Жыл бұрын

what if spear lived tho

You have no idea how hyped I am to watch this with my brother tomorrow, your videos are so addicting/relaxing to watch while also giving me insight on things I could’ve never imagined.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

I hope it delivers!

@reubencaldwell8494

Жыл бұрын

@@unnaturalhistorychannel It did, thank you very much.

The babies from Fang's second clutch of eggs look like a mix from both parents, while the first clutch babies (episode 1) are miniature clones of Fang. If we take into consideration that both lands are separated by an ocean, it's safe to assume that Red and Fang are different species of tyranosaur. The babies might be infertile or suffer from health issues later on.

@alexcoffey8804

Жыл бұрын

How dare you do this to me...

@davidegaruti2582

Жыл бұрын

@@alexcoffey8804 well they could also be hybrids and be stronger than both parents combined

@theimmortaleye7511

Жыл бұрын

Many b Hybrids especially of birds and fish are usually not infertile and can even be better adaptet

@rac1equalsbestgame853

Жыл бұрын

This may be a coywolf situation

@ravenschippers8267

Жыл бұрын

@@rac1equalsbestgame853 or a grolar/pizzly bear situation: a deadlier hybrid of the massive supercarnivore polar bear and the adaptable grizzly bear that just so happens to be able to reproduce...

My biggest bit of beef with the finale is the fact that Fang and Spear didn’t really get proper closure. They’re the emotional core of the show and the relationship that the series revolves around, and the fact that neither one got a proper goodbye or a somber moment together before his death just felt really tonally off to me. Other than that, i was overall satisfied with this season and there were still some pretty good creature features like the war elephants, argentavis, giant shark, and bear steeds. Heavily looking forward to your Nargacuga video as well!

Honestly, the first Primal explained video not only got me interested in Primal, but your channel as a whole. I've learned a lot about ecology and came to a deeper appreciation for one of my favorite series because of your channel. Thank you so much for making so much wonderful content, and I'm always excited to see your videos in my sub box.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for saying! Glad you're enjoying the content!

I've been waiting for this 41:06 I think that's supposed to be a leopard given how the spots look and the overall frame The finale kinda felt rushed. Like this should have been a 30-minute long episode, a movie, or another Two-parter. I wish we got to see more of Spear and Fang adjusting to life in the village (Or being Alienated by the village). As for Spear's passing, as much as it hits, kinda wish they gave more time seeing Fang's reaction to Spear's passing. Given how the entire show was centered around Fang and Spear's bond, kinda feels weird to shove fang aside like that. Like maybe imply Spear and Mira did the deed at the beginning while on the boat, and give us signs of her pregnancy(Like rubbing her stomach and feeling Nauseous during the episode). And then during Spear's death have the Both Fang and Mira be there mourning. Maybe have Fang and her chicks run off in anguish after Spear takes his last breath. As for the Cheiftain, while I did want the fight to last longer, I fail to come up with any other way to fully defeat it. All I can suggest is have Spear find ways to slow him down, distract him, and outsmart him(maybe they could implement he's so obsessed with vengeance he isn't thinking straight). To be honest, I'm Starting to wonder why they included him to begin with, let alone set him up to be as powerful as he was?

@EldestOrion

Жыл бұрын

I think that the Chieftain was meant to just be the final nail in the cycle of violence that has perpeutated both seasons. Killing leads to vengeance leads to killing leads to vengeance. The execution of it does strike me as awkward though, just going off of what was talked about in the video. He moves as fast or as slow as the writers wanted, and was seemingly invulnerable. He was more of a living death sentence for Spear than an actual obstacle to overcome. And while after everything they'd been through it makes sense that only literal divine intervention could kill Spear, it does cheapen it a bit I think that a super-powered god monster was the thing that had to do him in, and not even in a very noble fashion.

@seandewar47

Жыл бұрын

@@EldestOrion I get that, it's more the execution that kinda ruins it. The fight goes by too fast, it ends up feeling Anticlimactic from a Storytelling perspective. And while i understand the "Killing leads to Vengeance" thing, I kinda felt the point was already addressed when The Cheiftain and Eldar first attacked them, and that second time. Showing he isn't a problem you can easily get rid of.

@alexcoffey8804

Жыл бұрын

If Samurai Jack has taught me anything, Gendy just doesn't do two part finales. He spends the whole season hyping the final fight and that fight will only take minutes. I personally don't mind, but be prepared.

@geckoguy4141

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking that in order to fight the Chieftain, Mira or her whole village would've prayed together for their moon god to intervene and either have an avatar of their god come down or just god acting enough to make the Chieftain vulnerable. I mean, Spear learnt to pray to their god and even learnt about their god during that ceremony in the last episode. It honestly felt like the perfect chekovs gun moment for me were they set something up in the beginning only to use it later for the conclusion. It would've also tied up their praying moments in the sword and sorcery vibes of season 1.

This season seems a lot more character-focused and introspective than the previous, which I got the impression of being more gratuitous violence in Prehistoria. Very fascinating series, thanks for covering it!

The main reason on why the red tyrannosaurs attacked spears family is because they did it out of survival, they didn’t want to do it for fun they did it for their survival. That is the same thing that Spear and Fang did to the Vikings, they didn’t want to kill the Vikings but the Vikings harmed them and they had absolutely no choice.

The Primal Theory really sticks out to me for 2 reasons: the first is that it was put out after we are introduced to two proper human civilizations, and it was the episode directly after The Red Mist. I feel that it's placement in the season was very deliberate; Gennedy meant something by showing it after an episode of intense human-on-human violence that horrified even Spear, though I'm not sure what. The second reason is the taxidermied smilodon, which made me think "is this happening at the same time as Spear's adventures?" Which sounds crazy, but considering the history of taxidermy, the presence of an accurately taxidermied smilodon (in a room full of taxidermies of modern animals, no less) indicates that the species went extinct only recently, if at all. On top of that, it came out at a time where "so how far forward are we going" was in the back of everyone's heads. The co-existence of dinosaurs and humans is a massive anachronism, but like in most media showing that co-existence, the first season only shows primitive man in the stone age. We presumed that's as far as any humans have developed in this world, and believe that it's all in ancient prehistory.....until episode 10 subverts our expectations with what is clearly a Viking longship. By the time we see The Primal Theory, we've already seen that Spear and Fang were contemporary with (Iron Age) Celts and (Early Medieval) Vikings, and then along comes an accurate taxidermy of a smilodon in the Victorian era.... And of course, two episodes after The Primal Theory we start the Colossaeus saga, which cultures ranging from approximately 3100 BC to 1300 AD, which showed that the setting is probably as culturally anachronistic as it is biologically anachronistic.

@HeavensRipper-he4sz

Жыл бұрын

The narrative function of the Primal Theory was to explain why modern humans, despite being innately physically weaker than Spear and Fang, would still be legitimate threats to their lives. No coincidence that afterwards, all of Spear and Fang's conflict from then on, except for against the Giant and the Demon Viking were then against humans.

@davidegaruti2582

Жыл бұрын

ok , it could be that maybe the world in wich primal takes place is just really really large , with maybe some areas being stone age while others where even victorian age advanced , it's also worth remembering that while the polynesians where reaching new zeland and making haast eagles extinct without the written word or metals at the same time in wich europe was poking out of the plague , so such anacronisms aren't that implausible , and maybe a world wich gives even less of a shit than real life , we could plausibly think that primal theory takes place at the same time as the rest of the series , and it's just used to explain how spear and other humans can do such raw feats of strenght and speed that allow them to match animals

@geckoguy4141

Жыл бұрын

@@davidegaruti2582 One thing I find interesting is the cave paintings from season 2. The first ones that Spear looks at, probably implied to be the earliest, were with the early humans dealing with dinosaurs and pterosaurs then transitions to traditional European Pleistocene megafuana. Including the fact that there are very few references to dinosaurs and such beyond the lands of the Celts in episode 2, this makes me think that the land Spear and Fang came from is some sort of progenitor land that humanity eventually left to do their own thing. This could probably explain why creatures like the ancient sea monsters and Red seem to have "leaked out" of Spear's homeland and aren't really seen beyond the Celtic lands due to their close proximity.

@markcochrane9523

Жыл бұрын

@@HeavensRipper-he4sz I was thinking that what Genndy was trying to say something about human nature and/or society, but as a narrative function that actually checks out.

52:05 I think Vidarr's reasoning for snatching the chief back to Hell goes like this: *_"I bestowed you all my power to enact your vengeance, unchallenged, and you were still bested by a lowly beast-man?! This will not stand - I AM TAKING YOU BACK!!!"_*

@user-pj1ec5om5g

Жыл бұрын

Eh, always thought it was more like “aight, got your revenge mate, now you gotta uphold your part of the deal. We going to hell now” considering Spear died, while the chief was completely fine.

@barkyonyx962

Жыл бұрын

"your free trial of Hellfire Power has been expired"

A thing that should be noted regarding "The Primal Theory" is that the character of Charles isn't Charles Darwin himself as the episode took place eight years after Darwin's death. Charles could have been an understudy of Darwin or just some new, young, upcoming scientist that studies in the same field, either way he is someone else entirely who just happens to share the same name.

@MrAwsomeness360

Жыл бұрын

@@vantagepoint9270 Maybe, but then again, Charles being unrelated to Darwin but being an understudy is also credible.

@LethalSaliva

Жыл бұрын

When that episode first premiered, my first thought of Charles was that he looked like Roddy McDowall's Cornelius from The Planet of the Apes.

The narration of these guy, doesn't get any finer than this.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

I adore Kamau, somehow they managed to make even more of a unit than spear. Incredible.

Best series in the last 10 years! 💯🦖

Perfect timing. My girlfriend’s visiting me at college today, and she’s a big fan of both this channel and Primal. I love it when things just work out.

That Giant vulture gives massive The Giant Claw vibes, even if it's not quite a flying battleship.

I think “In the form of Spear and Fang” would’ve been a better choice of words than “By the Law of Spear and Fang” since the two are by no means a just authority, and they didn’t really want to kill the village, let alone see it as a punishment for them. Also, I think the ending of the chieftain implies that he got his revenge. He technically killed spear, and thus is vengeance is complete

"the deep lore of the real world sometimes called paleontology" lmao I actually subscribed for this

Nice! We finally have another in-depth recap. I wish there was more prehistoric life in this season though. Personally I prefer the first season, because I came to the show for dinosaurs. But, this season was pretty good, except for the finale.

11:06 that part really broke my heart to see, I mean think about it, Spear and Fang haven't seen each other in a while and the first thing Spear sees Fang doing is eating a human.

I’m so glad you’re finally going to talk about this.

I noticed In the primal theory episode they make a point to say humans evolved from (rather than alongside) neanderthals and emphasize this by showing a neanderthal skull. It should also be noted that the escaped lunatic has a striking resemblance to Spear and seems to have super human strength and agility. I'm not sure what it means but it feels like a clue that Spear or the lunatic could be part or full neanderthal. Plus Spear's father seems to add to that with his more primitive ape like appearance

Initially until I saw the huge Alpha Rex I had assumed the red horned individuals were males trying to get at Fang's chicks to make her able to breed again, though admittedly this is more common in mammals than sauropsids. I still think the antagonist tyrannosaurs from the first episode were a different species though, their size difference being incredibly drastic for sexual dimorphism and the Alpha's willingness to kill Fang before Spear stepped in suggests a lack of interest in breeding. As for Red himself I am not sure that he is a male of Fang's kind given the blended traits of their young, an unlikely occurrence if they were sexually dimorphic. I think Red is either a distinct separate but closely related species or they are both subspecies of the same species, both Red and Fang willing to cross that species gap due to lack of companionship which isn't unheard of as seen by Coywolves. Given how Fang is from an entirely different landmass, whether it is an island or continent, than Red supports the idea that the two are genetically distinct from one another.

I think the Queen and her army were supposed to be the Sea People. A group of marauders who, according to ancient sources, terrorized the Mediterranean for decades if not centuries.

@E1_DE3

Жыл бұрын

It did seem that way. Though interestingly the group with the blue headdresses that were destroyed seemed to resemble many depictions of the Sea People. Though it was the Queen going around laying waste to these civilizations here. It is kind of amusing to think of Spear, Fang and Kamau effectively being responsible for the Bronze Age Collapse in this setting.

Primal was overall a spectacular show, in terms of well written mature shows it’s up there with Gravity Falls and The Simpsons, at least in my opinion. Although episodes 5 and 10 definitely left me quite confused due to the open ended conclusions you can draw from them, it’s still pretty great. (There should’ve been more aquatic life though, more marine reptiles, amphibians, fish, eurypterids, trilobites, cephalopods and so on would be amazing.)

I always thought the Horned God taking the Chief's powers away before getting his Vidarr was because he was testing him to see if he would give in to his evil side and he did. Then basically sells his soul and it ends badly for him. I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't sympathize very much with the Vikings and thought they had it coming. But yeah, everyone I've talked to about the last episode agree it should have been a 2 parter. I'm not gonna lie, all the way through season 2 I was a nervous wreck. Every time I started a new episode I was shaking and had that stressful feeling in my through, just wondering how this episode can break me. I'd have to say my favorite episode was Dawn of Man.

The finale was definitely the most disappointing part of the season, if only because it didn't get enough time dedicated to it. I really enjoyed seeing the new cultures introduced, and am curious to k ow what others existed on Spear's original continent.

If I can have an opinion on season 2 I wish the rest of it focused on Spear, Fang, Mira and Fang's kids find a new home while the Viking Chieftain remained as the main antagonist. Cause he was a legit good antagonist. We could sympathize with him losing is home, belongings, his people and his family, but also see him being bad as he captured people, sold them off to slaves and murdered innocence. Maybe have an episode or so of Spear showing regret he killed the Chieftain's youngest, cause though he was defending himself, he didn't mean to and it was a child. Then when the Queen rowed up with Kamau, it just kinda took a bad turn in my opinion. Kamau was an interesting character, but him and his people disappeared so we don't even know what happened to them and the Queen was just not interesting. All she did all season was make mean faces and occasionally did something threatening

As amazing as season 2 is ((still better than 99% of most all modern media)) secenes like the abandoned village as Spear's past makes me wish they stuck with their original idea of still focusing on humans but on stone age cultures and socities. Gendy in the end axed the idea because "Any show focusing on stone age cultures ends up being compared to 10,000 BC." Which is a statement that stings more than any other. Much like how you talked about Jurrasic World holding dinosaur media hostage willfully ignorant and stupid crap like 10,000 BC and Quest for Fire have long been holding the massive untapped potential of Stone Age media hostage as well. Yet if Primal had focused on stone age cultures it would have been the first big step to breaking those shackles. Just makes me think of what could have been. That and I'm just a nerd for stone age stuff and the Primal thing of deconstructing fantasy elements into the stone age like the Witch's Coven, Giants Spiders and Bats, Zombies, etc.

@unnaturalhistorychannel

Жыл бұрын

Good point - I'd also like a lot more stone age fantasy. Weird that Genndy said that despite 10,000 BC having such a small cultural footprint; far smaller than any Jurassic film. Hopefully both Primal and Far Cry : Primal can start to break those shackles off.

@chaosmorris5865

Жыл бұрын

@@unnaturalhistorychannel Hopefully some day we'll get the big hit stone age media piece, that wasnt either kinda shit on at release like Far Cry Primal ((Which I really liked and would call the first small step)) or kind ditched the premise halfway through like G.T. Primal. Really i'd like to see a more classical style high fantasy stone age setting, unqiue world with elves, orcs, dwarves and the like deconstructed through a mesolithic lense. The closest I can think of is Dark Sun but thats less stone age because its the dawn of the mortal races dominance on a primal world and more World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stone kinda thing.

Babe wake up, an absolute banger just dropped

@The_PokeSaurus

Жыл бұрын

Hehehe.

“Many depictions of Hell.” Not the Norse one though. Helheim is described as being so cold that fires just won’t burn under any circumstance.

Miras/American cheetahs aren't actually cheetah relatives, I believe? Pretty sure they were more closer related to cougars? But yeah, season 2 kinda disappointed me in some ways, with how little Prehistoric creatures appeared. Especially considering Viking-land and Miras home didn't seem to have many native dinosaurs aside from Redhead Rex and the birds. And I must admit, watching Fang lay eggs and Mira fuck basically-a-corpse was incredibly weird. Did enjoy the little babies tho, they were amazingly screamy.

I always assumed the deal with the underworld God was to give the viking the power to kill Spear. Once Spear was wounded so badly he'd die, the God's deal was completed thus its time for the vikings end of the bargain

Cool fact abt the cheltic tribe : the language they are speaking is modern irish wich was almost made extinct by british colonization and the famine , This is one of the few times it's been spoken on screen and hopefully not the last

If this show is going to be an anthology now, be curious to see what happens with Kamua and his tribe for the next season. If we were to keep it in the same time period, it’d be nice to see how Kamua and his people move on from the whole ordeal. Or on Spear and Mira’s daughter. Honestly I didn’t really have as much of a problem with the finale as others, Spear’s death feels like a fitting conclusion. Fang’s reaction to his imminent death is a bit less than what I was expecting and hoped for, but I don’t think it’s odd necessarily. She might’ve stomped out in a sort of emotional breakdown. Similar to how people can’t handle the sight of a loved one in a hospital bed and have to leave the room. Give Spear and Mira this, they managed to do the deed while Spear was a Kentucky Fried Caveman, I’m surprised he managed to still have his… special spear after he was burned. I’ve been waiting this video for a while since the season aired and love your channel. Excited to see any more videos you have planned!

@freshboy3968

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I find it interesting that the Vikings decided to mark their slaves with the image of a scorpion, considering that those aren't exactly animals associated with northern Europe or norse mythology, and there are no hints that this is any different in the world of Primal. There are two explanations for this that I came up with: 1. the mark of the scorpion is not a symbol of the slaves master, but could be an indicator of the slaves region of origin, seeing as how Mira and her people are from an arid region likely analogous to western africa, as you point out. 2. These vikings do not capture their slaves themselves, but obtain them from an unknown third party, who use the scorpion as their symbol I'd be very interested in hearing what anyone thinks about this and what your own theories are!

I just found your channel and watched the analysis on season one, I looked for season two and after a week it's here! You do awesome work man!

I think much of the feel of disappointment in Season 2, is that no one was going into it expected it to be the end for Fang and Spear. With episodes like Primal Theory and the whole arc of Colossaeus taking up so much time, the plot sort of just feels as though Fang and Spear became secondary. Fang especially, as despite glimpses of both Spear and Mira's pasts, we don't get one for Fang from perhaps when she was a chick or sub-adult. Obviously animals don't reminisce about the past, but some artistic license could've been used to help keep Fang as truly part of a trio of creatures who have gone through many hardships in life. Also just a minor thing, but I think the ending would've been benefited if Mira had twins instead of just one child, as it not only would've reflected Spear's original two children, but Fang's two as well. With only one child it's left with this sort of awkward 'well one of Fang's kids gets ridden by Spear's while the other other is just sorta there.' Overall still a really good season and show, just with more immediate flaws given it's focus on a greater overarching narrative.

@mrmetang3642

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Why not triplets? One for each kid as well as one for Fang. Or, look at it this way: it mirrors fang originally having three eggs. Draw explicit attention to what might have been. Make it sting.

@chazdomingo475

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Fang and Spear didn't become secondary. They became obsolete. The world is evolving eons at a time. There were way less dinos and prehistoric creatures in this season. And essentially encountered an advanced bronze age civilization that spans multiple continents and cultures. Really makes me wonder where they go in season 3 as between Season 1 and Season 2 they jumped about 65 million years forward.

"the primal theory" is one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen. I've gone back and watched it probably ten times in the short time since it was released and I love it more each time. An incredibly interesting, well made little horror piece.

The single best piece of Primal content I've seen. You've earned a subscriber with bell on! Excited to watch your season 1 recap and other vids!

You released this right at the start of my last 12 hour shift, Been a rough long week. Thank you.

Definitely agree with this season not quite living up to the first. But it was still good. My biggest criticism is I believe the first season was much more visually compelling. The second season just didn't have the detail in animation and seemed to lack some of the imagination. I also definitely agree with your comment on pacing. Why have a tangent episode mid-season, or as you said a 3 parter, when you're just going to rush the ending of the main character. I don't think the explanation of the "primal theory" added much to the show.

I truly can't describe how much I love how seriously you take every subject, and the explicit references to publications, known ecology and paleontology, comparative sociology and archeology... this is always where my head goes when I enjoy speculative media or write my own. This is such a deeply enjoyable, satisfying channel!

A burst of joy to see this. Thank you. I was always thinking of the stuff you'd say while watching.

"Elephants can be catious animals..." Elephants IRL: *Gores a Rhinoceros to death because it took 0.25 seconds too long to get out of the way...*

The best recap and educational video I've seen, great narration, Sir.

How did you manage to whip such a good video so quickly? You’re the goat man

I like how you teach about those animals and the possible situation that led to it. Great job for the recap too

I love the idea that, in what's essentially brutal violence the series, a scene of laying eggs gets a "eeehhhh, perhaps a bit much." Great channel, and love what you do, still watching, still enjoying.

Was waiting to see this pop up in my feed and am not disappointed!

i could listen to you narrate anything you have such a good voice

this show is fantastic it gives me some sorta chill or exhilaration when watching. Tartakovsky outdid himself also after seeing the 2nd season in full, this show kinda has an aspect of "journey to the beginning of time" to it but reversed for example, after Fangs mate, no other dinosaurs show up (correct me if i'm wrong) and all the animals seen are some sort of Cenozoic creature, as another commenter pointed out, he really is a man out of time

Thank God I am not the only one with no sympathy for the chief

Love your breakdowns man. Very interesting stuff

You already know we been waiting on this

@unnaturalhistorychannel

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I can only hope it delivered!

Stupendous review, UHC! I've been looking forward to this one for such a long time, and it didn't disappoint. While I empathize with the disappointment over the lack of paleofauna and the abrut finale, it was delightful hearing you do such a thoughtful analysis of the themes of S2's story. (Kudos to calling out slavery without hesitation at every oppurtunity, and how you discussed Spear's struggle with loneliness.) It was also nice to see that there was still enough paleofauna left sprinkled in the narrative to give the story some flavour, as well something for you to analyze in trademark UHC style. I'm cautiously optimistic about a continuitation given the current state of animation at WB, but dammit, the optimisit in me is down for a return for Spear and his family in some form or other! I did want to point out that you accidentally called the Arsinotherium a relative of elephants rather than rhinos (unless the prehistoric branches of the tree of life have any more surprises for me), and that you used Shadow of Fate's title card for Dawn of Man. But besides that, it was another excellent recap/retrospective that kept me riveted the moment I put it on. Bravo!

I loved the water scenes a breath of fresh air and its outstanding how smart spear amd fang is and doing things no other dino nor neanderthal would

Even if he was underutilised in season 2's narrative, I think the chieftain worked as a great antithesis for Spear in how they dealt with grief. Spear learns from the first episode that avenging his family didn't heal the wounds of his loss. From there on he channels his grief into helping those that can't defend themselves; to avoid the same tragedy that befell him from ever happening again. The chieftain, on the other hand, allows his desire for revenge to consume him, which only leads to the death of his remaining family. Ironically the chieftain of a tribe of slave-trading Vikings becomes himself a slave to his own lust for vengeance.

I heard that crocodilians like alligators have been known to eat fruit at times

I just have to say that I really love your analysis of both creatures and cultures in all the media you examine. This season was great but, the first season is definitely better. Honestly my biggest issue with this season was, why did we have to see the daughter get made? Couldn’t that have been implied in a different way?

Dude thanks for making this man. I love cartoons and science and this video makes me so happy.

You have added some research papers too. in details. Thanks man for exceptional explanation

I wish spear wasn't killed off, rather have another series after this

@RowanFox77

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I think it was because the last bit of the season was rushed, so Gennedy just killed Spear off. I don’t remember why it was rushed, I think AS was bought by another company.

Primal is now in my top 2 animated shows of all time. When i saw the Primal Theory i kept thinking of this channel! Excellent Knowledge sir! You did your research! (arsinoitherium was indeed an elephant relative and looked like a Rhino!)

Great review! Very long but I did watch it! The only thing I’d have a slight argument is I personally don’t think the elephants are Palaeoloxdon, for a few reasons. 1. Primal likes to mess with size 2. Palaeoloxdon had straight tusks, not tusks that curl upwards 3. They were about the same size as the mammoths (arguably) and Palaeoloxdon Namadicus was considerably larger than the woolly mammoth, of which was around the same size as modern elephants. 4. Palaeoloxdon had a huge domed structure on their skull, similar to the Asian elephant’s but bigger. Then again I could be very much wrong, only Genndy knows what he intended them to be. Again awesome in depth review

I believe Stupendemys is the largest turtle rather than archelon. I personally would have liked it if Primal Theory was a special, or the introduction to Season 3, rather than being smack dab in the middle of Season 2. I appreciate it's inclusion as an exploration of the main story's themes, but it felt in hindsight at the cost of giving the finale 2 parts for example, giving an ending to their story that was honestly pretty bad imo. I know a lot of people would see more cut from The Colossaeus too, but I honestly value that substory a lot, especially with Kamau who easily became one of my favorite characters, maybe only usurped by Spear and Fang themselves.

I really liked this season especially bringing fang and spear Into a human world was a Intresting change of pace, however the ending while thematically great felt very rushed and il go further then just saying it could have been a 2 parter and say there could have acutaly been a 3rd season in here if you play your cards right, so here's how I would have liked it done Episode largely goes as it does before the demon guy comes along and this episode could be a calm episode where fang and spear are settling in and we can have spear starting to feel out of place and isolated, and we end with a shot of the massive ship smashed in half with smaller boats escaping and the demon guy continueing to walk and that's how we end season 2 And for season 3 we can have many adventures with this village being happy to have a true fighting force in spear and fang to fend of the bigger threats to combine the primal theme of S1 with the human one of S2, fang bringing up her chicks, spear feeling isolated and building a love story between him and myra proper including him acutaly getting to see his child and do his ritual with the sun and have a tragic episode where one of fangs babies dies, all the while this demon guy is walking towards them and we see him destroying everying in his way and have a episode where he attacks the village before we have the final episode where spear and fangs have a heroic but tragic sacrifice to stop the demon from destroying what they love but both getting to live on in their children with a similar shot to how it ended but that's just me It would also be nice to have the 2 themes murge where season one is "primal" threats with dinosaurs and season 2 is more about human threats where myra comes from season 3 can be the 2 truly colliding with spear protecting the humans civilation from primal dinosaur threats

It’s a huge leap in logic: but I like to think the episode taking place in Victorian England is taking place during the same time period as Spear, Mira and Fang. Only their world is not on the surface of the Earth but underneath it! The prehistoric/Hyborian type world they inhabit would be a sort of hollow earth that fits right in with the Jules Verne/HG Wells romanticism of exploring the unknown of that era.

This season was fantastic. Sad to hear it won’t be the same anymore but I guess it’s better to end this story on a high note

Spear and fang reminds me of Kroq gar and grymloq from Warhammer , actually spear reminds me of saurus lizardmen, naturally good at battle only know battle while the giant African slave reminds me of kroxigors and especially his love for his tiny daughter reminds me of kroxigors and skinks relationship haha.

39:04 those are philistines iirc, the tall feather looking head dress is a dead giveaway

Seeing that this has concluded the series in a satisfying way, I want to see something like primal theory. I want to see what happens in the future of primal

Amazing analysis just like that fir season 1. Something that i wanted to see in season 2 was that a few episodes show the vikings trying to invade and collnise this new piece of land on which spear and fang live because it is a large unexplored landmass full of resources and when the sailors who were sent to recapture mira reported this to their chief he ordered a large scale expedition to control that lush and fertile land. Meanwhile spear and fang understand the motives of the vikings and unite the different factions (like the witches, those cavemen seen in terror under the blood moon, mammoths etc) to defend against these invaders. Would have been interesting to see how spear and fang deal with this much more advanced enemy and how the vikings try to survive against the dangerous fauna of this new land.

I enjoyed the second season, but I think the ending was almost anticlimactic. The final battle against the Scorpion-empowered chieftain wasn't really much of a battle, and we have no idea why the scorpion was even interested in the main characters. I hope they delve more into him in season 3. Or at least show some more of Spear and Fang's children.

I still need to watch season 2. The ending was spoiled so I had no issue watching this. I cant wait to sit down for it

I love Primal! It was such a good show. The final episode of season 2 had me 😭😭.

Good Season but their some missed opportunities and great ideas I could've had,cause you know how in the first season showed spear and fang fighting all kinds prehistoric monsters,this showed had fight off mythical monsters like Griffins,Dragons,Basilisks,a Kraken I mean how awesome would that be to see.The other opportunity this season had is when is that when during on their journey to find Mira,Spear and Fang ran into other cultures and explore the ruins of mysterious ancient civilizations like Atlantis or Mu and present them as some kind of magi tek society like the Dwemer from the Elder Scrolls series.The other cultures Spear and Fang could've encountered in this season would've been the Nubians,The Phoenicians,The Scythians,The Olmecs,or maybe the Mythical Amazons of Greek myth,I mean how cool it would be for see how cool it would be to see a caveman and a dinosaur fight an army of Amazon warrior women.

6:58 Actually, there is evidence Red is actually a difference subspecies or perhaps even species from Fang. If you go back to the first season Fang's young were basically the exact same color as her, while the ones she has with Red are a cross between Fang's & Red's colors. This implies Fang's first mate was the same color as her, this also brings into question if the horn on Red's species/subspecies is sexually-dimorphic or not as we don't see others of his kind... It would also make sense if Red was a different species/subspecies, as they traveled to a completely different continent in season 2.

What you do believe about the theory that Fang, Red and the Horned Giants are all separate species of tyrannosaurs within the same genus? Especially since Fang and Reds offspring look pretty different to Fang's first brood?

@unnaturalhistorychannel

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I personally think Red and Fang are the same species. Them being the horned tyrannosaur genus is interesting - not impossible!

@KiyoGam1

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the difference between her original offspring and the new one could come from the original ones being more like fang while the new ones took more after their father

I think primal is one of the best examples of "a simple meal made well".

And now with spear and fangs story and genndy hinted at the fact that season 3 is going to be more like the primal theory where we're gonna see more unrelated stories covering the idea of primalism can't wait to see what new speculation will be brought up

I was not prepared for this season. This video was a good way to help me deal with how I feel about it. I agree with basically everything in the video. Mostly about the parts of it being "not quite as good as season one" and "wanting more creatures" The strange and brutal nature was a great part of season 1 that I hoped would continue with season two but all episodes but the first one ended up in human opponents and very few creatures. This together with the couple writing mistakes sadly left a deep unsatisfying feeling in the end. I have been reading the other comments and I agree with most of the critical takes in them. I'm glad that I'm not the only one that feels about this.

I'm pretty sure that Fang and the red tyrannosaur are closely related yet different species. Fang's offspring from the first episode have only her colouration while these offspring at the end of season 2 have partial red colouring. I think the latter set of offspring are hybrids. I also don't think the red theropod from the first episode is the same species as either of them. Presumably Fang and the red therapods are all full grown adults so the evil red theropod being that much bigger than both of them doesn't make sense.

this weirded me out that in the final scene, spear in in pain and dying, and Mira just starts riding him.

I, too, often find myself more willing and able to relate to and hang out with dogs than humans.

It probably is unlikely red is the same kind of rex as fang. With her babies being the same color as her it’s more likely thier kids are more like ligers then her original children

I have a short analysis video on my channel of primal season two, essentially it’s just my thoughts listed out. Where I felt the first season could be a 9 out of 10, season two was closer to like a 7. It was still beautiful, and had strong emotional elements. But as you point out later in this video, the writing choices and direction seem a bit strange and off kilter. Weakening what could’ve been an excellent send off of the characters.

I think its Freya's brother Freyr that fights Surtur in Ragnarok, if I remember the myths right, cause its made a point that he gave away his magical sword to wed a female Jotun he was desperately in love with, and that magical sword would have likely given him a better chance in his fight against Surtur had he not given it away. The magical thing about his sword was that it can basically fight battles on its own and protect its master by the way.

I always thought of the colossaeus as an analogy for sea-men, the mysterious people that destroyed the bronze age. While there was obviously Egyptian imagery i feel like there are more common grounds overall with the sea-men

Such a beautiful anime it takes a lot to be in the running for my favorite

@brandonmyers1400

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Great stories deserve an ending I'm looking at you one piece

Yeah baby this what I’ve been waiting for that’s what it’s all about

9:15 oh man, that's an unfortunate screencap