Well said sir! If the brands don’t want to sell to the independents. We will make our own parts or use heigh quality aftermarket. We won’t go down without a fight!

I could not have started repairing and servicing watches without your videos, so thank you. I fully agree about becoming your own inspector and testing generic parts. Several times I have held back from fitting a generic part having compared it under the microscope with an original part. Ratchet wheels not having square holes comes to mind. Other times not because of inadequate fit or function but because of surface texture not being as pleasing as the original and wanting to preserve original appearance as much as possible. For example a driving wheel for a ratchet wheel. I do not have a hardness tester so your caution about springs and balance staffs makes a lot of sense. Again, thank you, Kalle.

Thank you again for sharing your wisdom with the community Kalle 👍😁 you are the messiah of watches.

@davidmills1874

8 ай бұрын

They should sell watch parts to Independence like you said there's not enough watchmakers to service all the watches that need servicing out there just take a screw for example it may cost them five cents to make they're not going to sell it for 10 dollars for 100 the same with all their other parts you're not going to buy just one they will still make money are the five dollars for shipping and handling a little bit goes to shipping more money goes to for the handling in their pocket

@orchardwatchandclockrepair8346

8 ай бұрын

That was very interesting. Did you have time to finish the omega. Www2 dirty dozen. Movement. Maybe I have missed it. Kalle. Oppologys.

Thanks Kalle, I'm very much enjoying these videos. The next one sounds interesting as well. Cheers!

Kaal is an absolute top guy in my opinion, I wonder how much is servicing charges on middle range watches.

Thank you Kalle🙏

Thanks Kalle, always makes sense and useful!

Like you said, generic parts are common in the auto repair industry. As long as there is disclosure then I feel comfortable with quality generic parts.

Your explanation is very helpful and interesting. Thank you

Some very good points you mentioned here. Seems inconsistency of quality from a parts producer is a big factor. The swiss are inadvertently giving other nations the opportunity to improve their own technical capabilities by creating a market for parts that they refuse to supply.

This I found the major problem even when I was a technician in the eighty’s finding quality replacement parts for repairs

"Behind the scenes" or "Real meaning of Swiss made" will be interesting topic!

We refer to these generic parts in the automobile word as aftermarket where as the manufacturers parts are called OEM which stands for Original equipment manufacturer.

Another fine appraisal of the situation Kalle. And what timing... with the news from Cousins today. There's still (some) hope for wider distribution of original parts. We'll see.

@iandinwoodie

7 ай бұрын

What was the news from Cousins?

I love these videos, please keep ‘em coming!!

Very nice informative video as always! I would like to see video about choosing the right size jewels and about jewelling. Thank you!

@ChronoglideWatchmaking

8 ай бұрын

We did a 4 part series on jewels. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZllqLusdZPOp5s.htmlsi=Y89Mx9JMwPnUD2rp

Wonder how often fake parts like in a fake Rolex, end-up in a real Rolex because Rolex won’t sell that shop parts.. thanks for posting , always enjoy live streams on Tuesday and these posts!!

@mortensuperlite

8 ай бұрын

The old manufacturer of Rolex parts make now "generic" parts from the same original machines. Also many wholesalers have big stocks of original parts. Never had any problems finding them. Only problem is the price.

@kevinparker461

8 ай бұрын

@@mortensuperlite Got two Rolex & i replaced one plexi glass with a Clarkes & a Crystal with a Clarkes crystal. I have not got a problem with that.

Thanks kallie im learning so much about how aye watch works .I am aye low grade watch collector from New Zealand 🇳🇿 I collect mainly Seiko dive watches and I’ve just bought my first pocket watch aye full hunter 1902 with the 3 finger bridge system which is fairly rear in NZ .thanks for your sharing your expertise with us 😊

I have just had to buy some parts from china because I just couldn't find any available anywhere else? Totally agree with what you have said. If needs must, to save a watch , get parts from wherever you can if they are rare and not made anymore.

i totally agree what you saying~

Kalle, I totally agree 💯 with you view regarding fitting aftermarket watch parts, I must add that I come from long line of watchmakers ( father and grandfather) and now I am Sami retired but still do few hours on the bench , mostly for the trade, I have had to make quite a few parts my just like my father before me . I love your video streams, Your our hero , So please keep up with your excellent work , I wish best for the future. One of these days I company with my wife would like to pay you short visit, do please let us have your address and if at all possible advice us where to stay near your area. Many thanks. Regards Akhtar A Malik ( David) From Staffordshire UK

Hello Kalle,the situation with watch parts is quite ridiculous really,as you said, the swiss manufacturers,they are the ones causing the generic/after market parts to be more readily available. Why i say this,is because im in the process of refurbishing a very badly rusted and damaged Sicura divers with an EB 8800 movement. Im after a new bezel and tension ring,a main spring,a plexi,and a clutch wheel. After 2 days of waiting, i was told my local company had to ring their other office in another part of the same country only to be told....."sorry your parts are unavailable"....come on, a plexi unavailable🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️or is it just laziness???😢 So, i have to resort to ebay and looking for a donor movement. It seems nobody wants to sell watch parts anymore. Im following your current blogs as i have your previous one on the "greed" of the major watch companies and their monopoly!!! Thankyou for your insight, it matches the every day situation....for me at least. Keep up the blogs and watchmaking videos..i love then. Best wishes to you and the team at Chronoglide. Mike

The manufacturers couldn’t make it clearer. When you buy a £500 - £50000 watch from them, they have you over a barrel. As the time comes for a service, you must go to them and pay whatever price they quote. They know your options are limited. They complain about generic parts but they created the aftermarket.

How can we tell if an aftermarket part is an OEM supplier?

Where can I buy screws for a Breitling superocean internal screws. Specifically the very small black ones that hold the gears for the automatic rotor? It’s the two black screw below the automatic rotor.

Company's talk down on generic parts but they don't want to sell parts to people to repair themselves. Only their approved people or only let them service.they push to generic

mooi dat ik je toch een horloge zie dragen Kalle.... bedankt voor deze info!! Het temperen van staal is waar het valt of staat ook bij gereedschappen messen enz... De kunst van temperen van staal is ook al zo oud... Het geheim van de smid...

Does Patek make their own watch parts?

What do think of the PT5000?

I surpose this is one of the advantages of owning non in house movements such as eta/Salita shouldn't have an issue obtaining parts.

Kalle, for me as long as the quality and tolerances are good to high does it really matter? I have a Seiko SLA065J1 and a Tudor BB 58 in 925 silver the Seiko has a Grand Seiko movement that did not meet the tolerances for GS hence it was put into a higher end Seiko Diver. The Tudor a new inhouse movement by Kennisie. Which would you keep and which would you sell based on the movement specs? Thank you Chris

Thank you for that stream Kalle! Question from me would be: if generic part can be of good or bad quality, is it assured that a original part coming in „original branded“ package is of good quality? Thank you.

my FAVOURITE is when i opened my 3 year old and hardly worn and just stopped working, (hold your breath and bite your tongue!) my Tissot Powermatic 80 Chronomtre only a. to have the balance wheel fall out (damned plastic 'high tech' escapement. now i gotta swap in a grade 3 maybe 5 2824)and I saw "TISSOT HONG KONG" stamped on iunside of case back. yep. Tissot sourcing cases from china......wonder why all of the chinese homage brands have become so good of late...? maybe b/c they make the swiss their cases and have learned? I think so.....

What are your thoughts on the newest fad in watchmaking (overpriced disposable watches/Swatch Blancpain collaboration)?

Thanks Kalle for the excellent video . Could you or anyone from the community provide some tips for rectifying a bent pivot?

If you damn the river, it will find another way to flow....

By refusing access to genuine/quality parts, the Swatch Group are sending people to the generic market and therefore could be damaging the watches they are seeking to protect.

@davideyt1242

8 ай бұрын

actually Swatch Group has a bigger motive to have people not able to repair their timepieces, so that they can offer them a much more expensive "new" replacement instead... not so far from what Apple is doing in the last 7-8 years (goes again around the "right to repair" topic - not only in the watchmaking industry.. and it is absolutely criminal what those huge corporations are doing)

The ultimate "Swiss" quality producer of watch tools use outsourced foreign parts and machining apparently, so why still the premium on price when they are halving their outlay?. It's good business for sure when profits are your main goal, but the sale of the "brand" is all you are purchasing, not necessarily quality. As you rightly say the industry is run by marketting execs, and not engineers or manufacturers of products.

Thanks. Or people can make the parts themselves.

If it works I will use it if the customer wants original let them go down the road