gender reassignment surgery Q&A (life after, dating, v card etc)

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  • @EmmaEllingsen
    @EmmaEllingsen9 ай бұрын

    Guys! i need to say that dilating is really important, after watching over one more time i talked really lightly about it. but it is a really important thing to maintain

  • @iceyjo

    @iceyjo

    9 ай бұрын

    Your English is exceptional. You look better than most cis women. I'm glad you don't experience the same hate that other trans women who don't pass as well deal with. We live in a cruel world. Stay safe and keep living your fabulous life.

  • @user-oz9sg2rf9w

    @user-oz9sg2rf9w

    9 ай бұрын

    @@iceyjo pls dont compare her to "cis women" its very disrespectful and weird

  • @xiverx7394

    @xiverx7394

    9 ай бұрын

    I've seen ring on your finger! Are you married?

  • @SHAE141

    @SHAE141

    9 ай бұрын

    @@iceyjoew shut up

  • @jeffmedlock2782

    @jeffmedlock2782

    9 ай бұрын

    You’re so lovely Emma!❤ Did you ever consider having vulvaplasty or low depth vaginal surgery?😮

  • @fernie6299
    @fernie62999 ай бұрын

    Don't feel like you have to share everything about your personal life, Emma. Creating boundaries and having a private life is crucial for mental health. So, if you don't want to discuss your dating life, don't. People sometimes feel entitled to know everything about a famous person they follow when they aren't. We're not entitled to anything. You share what you want to share. Thanks for the update. Take care. :)

  • @marvelousmia

    @marvelousmia

    9 ай бұрын

    respectfully ~ she doesn’t need you to tell her “not to share everything” she did this video because she enjoys sharing :) she’s always been very transparent about her story ❤

  • @user-fg8ej6hk2k

    @user-fg8ej6hk2k

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@marvelousmiaоткуда вам знать что ей нужно а что не нужно ? Ну если вы всё знаете тогда может знаете харасмент ли если гомофоб похлопает по плечу транса который выглядит как девушка ?

  • @Ashleyyyy_xx

    @Ashleyyyy_xx

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@marvelousmiaShe was just saying SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO if she DOESN'T WANT TO. Some call it a SUGGESTION

  • @user-xg7zg7kb2s

    @user-xg7zg7kb2s

    9 ай бұрын

    @@marvelousmiajust like she doesnt need a guardian angel or an online lawyer. 💗

  • @peppaPig-nc8ho

    @peppaPig-nc8ho

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-xg7zg7kb2s she is literally just reassuring her that she doesn't have to

  • @jenifergo6860
    @jenifergo68609 ай бұрын

    You can be so so proud of yourself for going through all of this. I can't even imagine how you feel but seeing you smile makes me so happy Emma 🥹🫶🏻

  • @mathildeeide8550
    @mathildeeide85509 ай бұрын

    Husker så godt dokumentaren som gikk på norsk tv for lenge, lenge siden. Tror aldri jeg har sett en unge som var så trygg i seg selv og så full av liv. Når du sier at denne reisen har vært lettere for deg enn for mange andre så kommer det av at du er helt spesiell. Det er vi alle, men du er virkelig en inspirasjon Emma Ellingsen.❤️

  • @gabmoraschi
    @gabmoraschi9 ай бұрын

    I have been watching you since I was sixteen, I’m 23 now, it’s cool to have grown up with you

  • @rafaeltamez8705
    @rafaeltamez87059 ай бұрын

    YES THE QUEEN IS BACK!!!’ talk that talk sis!!!!

  • @tootsingtonfabulucy1050
    @tootsingtonfabulucy10509 ай бұрын

    Emma the maturity in this video was so refreshing and gives an insight into the amazing person you are becoming as you grow . Great job!

  • @mikaelaresurreccion2781
    @mikaelaresurreccion27819 ай бұрын

    never clicked soo fasttt, girl ur vids make my year

  • @shefa9016
    @shefa90169 ай бұрын

    emma ur a doll ur our barbie 💌💌💌 personally you’re my princess diana! don’t share anything you don’t want to share we will support u through it all

  • @kev.1269
    @kev.12699 ай бұрын

    I just started watching you girlie and can I just say I'm obsessed, ily and can't wait to see you grow on this channel 🫶🫶

  • @MikSonus
    @MikSonus8 ай бұрын

    Wow, I seriously had zero idea you had gender reassignment surgery. You are so feminine, I watched a make up tutorial, insane! I actually watched a vid that I didn’t realise was the same channel. I didn’t even remember watching it, now I went on your channel I realise. You look wonderful. ❤

  • @spirosk7984
    @spirosk79849 ай бұрын

    You should be very proud to go through this physical transition process. I am very proud of you and of people like you, though I wouldn't put myself through this. The bottom line is that you have achieved your lifetime goals at a very early age, so you have your whole life in front of you to enjoy. You are so amazing and beautiful ❤

  • @KindellArmstrong

    @KindellArmstrong

    8 ай бұрын

    It really hits home the point that if someone knows they are transgender they should be able to transition as early as they are comfortable too. The end result is always better.

  • @veilbreak5867

    @veilbreak5867

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@KindellArmstrongyea who cares about young people becoming life long medical patients and suffering physical and emotional pain.....cos aesthetics!

  • @thorpsewinglessons5913

    @thorpsewinglessons5913

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@veilbreak5867 they don't think the situation through properly, medical problems for rest of his life. He will at some point have to face our creator of humanity.

  • @veilbreak5867

    @veilbreak5867

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@thorpsewinglessons5913and they downplay the mess made of their genitals....and encourage others to make the same mistake. None of these surgeries are successful. It's an impossible task. Only God can create..Its a depressing state of affairs

  • @denarendall
    @denarendall9 ай бұрын

    Could listen to you talk alllll day! The most hilarious and gorgeous girly! Thanks for sharing this personal experience with us!❤️

  • @etjetjtej5820

    @etjetjtej5820

    9 ай бұрын

    shes definitely the most passing person ive seen, more fem then alot of us naturally born females

  • @onikasfantasy
    @onikasfantasy9 ай бұрын

    you need to make more podcast type of videos! this was so fun to watch and listen to. i'm doing my own thing and you're just talking, it was very entertaining. thank you for uploading and giving us content!

  • @MICCC_
    @MICCC_9 ай бұрын

    i litteraly see you as one of my comfort people love u.

  • @iceyiana
    @iceyiana7 ай бұрын

    I never knew you could still O after surgery. I’m so happy for you like literally so happy you’re happy.

  • @juliaelias9767
    @juliaelias97679 ай бұрын

    I love you so much! thank you for talking about it and educating us❤ you deserve the best

  • @Sorayamaee
    @Sorayamaee9 ай бұрын

    i love these chat videos sm, such an inspo for my channel🤗🩷

  • @user-rs8tm5di6o
    @user-rs8tm5di6o9 ай бұрын

    Love u, Emma! Be happy 😍 and I love the podcast type of video of you, god idea 🌈

  • @isaacmaskey468
    @isaacmaskey4689 ай бұрын

    your so pretty omg i also appreciate how open you are with the whole being transgender thing cause i no its a thing and people just needs to keep a open mind to everything because emma is queen the fact and its intresting to learn about her life

  • @pemman
    @pemman8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the update Emma. Do really well in continuing as the new you in life. :)

  • @totalstarkitty
    @totalstarkitty9 ай бұрын

    You are such an inspiration to every single girl no matter what circumstance. You're charming, beautiful, obviously very intelligent and I just want to thank you for sharing these subjects in such a fun and enlightening way!

  • @mystic22g4

    @mystic22g4

    9 ай бұрын

    Wrong, Emma is not “inspiring to every girl” because girls don’t require having a penis removed because they don’t have one. Emma is inspiring to transgender girls/women who are all born with male reproductive organs.

  • @Vero2yu

    @Vero2yu

    6 ай бұрын

    Tell me how the person, he, that guy is ''inspiring'' if possible. If they actually were an inspiration they would have spoken about how to accept what a person has been since they were inside the womb and that it is impossible to change those basic facts. Intelligent people, common sense, would not even have those thoughts inside them.

  • @totalstarkitty

    @totalstarkitty

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Vero2yu Question, for you, why are you watching this video if you just come to hate? And my answer to your question...Bottom line these arguments will never be settled. It is based on two opposing ideas. One believes sex does not equal or define gender, and the other believes that sex and gender are fixed in synonymous playing fields that can not go outside of themselves. No one is arguing that trans women are biological women, no one is denying that they were born biologically male at birth, and who ever is doing that is wrong and videos of people doing that are blasted in the media to stir up issues and distract us from important issues. That being said, she is an inspiration to many girls because of her attitude towards life and her girlhood. What you're digging for is a debate that isn't even relevant because no one is denying biology. And it's funny because people like you always say "accept who they were at birth" when yall are the SAME people who bully, harass, and cause harm to feminine men. There is no winning, and your arguments are illogical and circular.

  • @veilbreak5867

    @veilbreak5867

    Ай бұрын

    No, cross dressing men are not inspirational to girls and women. Most of us just don't want them in our personal spaces, that's about the extent of what we think of them.....theyre the reason women's rights have been set back to the 19th century.

  • @xander_k_

    @xander_k_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Vero2yuintelligent people wouldn’t deny science and anomalies within neurobiology and physiology just because it makes them uncomfortable.

  • @odapunkt
    @odapunkt9 ай бұрын

    Emma har alltid likt humoren din, understated humor is where it is, det ikoniske bildet av deg med de andre Emmaene😂

  • @davilito.Rodriguez
    @davilito.Rodriguez9 ай бұрын

    It make me happy to see u this happy,I wish u all the best Emma ilyyy 💞💞💞

  • @brilhalaluna
    @brilhalaluna9 ай бұрын

    Congrats! You deserve nothing less than the best ❤ Sending love from Brazil 😊

  • @gregorykeithmorris3970
    @gregorykeithmorris39709 ай бұрын

    My days always brighten when you post. You're so fabulous!

  • @user-yi9dd1ih6w
    @user-yi9dd1ih6w9 ай бұрын

    Emma congratulations for your “new” life ! And also for uploading more videos ! Slay queen ! ❤

  • @istudyrainbows
    @istudyrainbows8 ай бұрын

    love you queen 💖💖 so happy for you!!

  • @mellycone5317
    @mellycone53179 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experience I had the surgery done three times but it’s finally perfect so everyone has different experiences with it. Just making this comment to let you know I support you and you’re an amazing example for trans women

  • @bjaartey3309
    @bjaartey33099 ай бұрын

    love the style of the video

  • @user-mg5fl8yd2k
    @user-mg5fl8yd2k9 ай бұрын

    I really love watching your vids. I hope you can create more of this. -watching from the Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @poshvuli
    @poshvuli9 ай бұрын

    Love this Emma! I can't wait for my surgeries to complete my transition. You're such a star & role model to transgirls ❤🏳️‍⚧️💅🏽

  • @eileenp6762
    @eileenp67629 ай бұрын

    I love this kind of video in which you just talk to us about your life, it feels refreshing and honest, please do more! I also would love to hear about your business, your modeling career, and maybe your culture, you are a successful woman now! But never need to share stuff that you don't wanna share, we understand. Ps. Your English it's so much better than just a few years before!

  • @baki1818
    @baki18187 ай бұрын

    You truly are such a Queen and a huge inspiration for many people I think

  • @marvelousmia
    @marvelousmia9 ай бұрын

    omg yay love these videos 💕 i bet your girl looks so nice 👀 lol congrats

  • @moejowjow
    @moejowjow9 ай бұрын

    so so so happy for u emma, we love u so much, keep safe always ❤❤❤

  • @Millie.4
    @Millie.49 ай бұрын

    Emma I love your videos and for me as a trans girl your such an inspiration.

  • @martinlf5034
    @martinlf50349 ай бұрын

    thank u for being this open

  • @Beyzanurck
    @Beyzanurck9 ай бұрын

    I saw that you shared the video on Instagram story and I came immediately. watch until the end of the video. I want you to know that I support you from Türkiye, thousands of kilometers away from your country. Love u 💜

  • @Anna-fd3ui
    @Anna-fd3ui9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for being so open ♥️

  • @finclec
    @finclec9 ай бұрын

    Omg you are a gorgeous woman, I seriously didn’t know you have transitioned! This video is amazing to teach people and learn the transitioning process for you and your experience 👏🏼

  • @anniehall19
    @anniehall199 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your story! Honestly a podcast could be your thing girly🤭💗

  • @CherryPeach89
    @CherryPeach899 ай бұрын

    New sub your so down to earth and fun and real. Great video and always be you girl! ❤😊

  • @Hannah.hkp6
    @Hannah.hkp69 ай бұрын

    Could watch you talk forever , love your videos

  • @jeremypratt6246
    @jeremypratt62469 ай бұрын

    Such a sweet person you're a great person keep going have a great day

  • @danielle7589
    @danielle75899 ай бұрын

    ive been watching you for years ahhhh love watching you and your journey!!

  • @schylerspace
    @schylerspaceАй бұрын

    I'm a trans woman myself and find these videos so helpful. We need honest discussions about our lives and when people share those intimate details, it's so helpful to others in similar positions. Thank you for being you!

  • @y2klove581
    @y2klove5818 ай бұрын

    Emma you inspire me so much as a trans girl 💕💕

  • @naurbbel1405
    @naurbbel14059 ай бұрын

    So so happy for you emma!! Can’t wait to complete my transitioning as well 🙈

  • @Chunda8
    @Chunda89 ай бұрын

    Thanks for putting this up, that takes courage. People should really see it, it helps me understand trans people on a deeper level and I think that is important. I do have to say as well, if I saw you IRL I would have no idea that you were trans, I would be certain that you were born female. I hope that is an okay thing to say, I am impressed and amazed. Be well and be happy Emma!

  • @anyonesmind
    @anyonesmind9 ай бұрын

    you look soooooo stunning here. I love your makeup. please drop a tutorial if you have the time :)

  • @Suga_likes_cats
    @Suga_likes_cats9 ай бұрын

    Finally! Worth the wait! now I'm happy!🥰

  • @carlossalvadormoraolivares3942
    @carlossalvadormoraolivares39429 ай бұрын

    Thank you for being so honest.❤❤❤❤we love u! Greetings from México City!!!

  • @edwardparish6621
    @edwardparish66216 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that everything went well with your operations.

  • @mikebradley9408
    @mikebradley94089 ай бұрын

    your always so beautiful girl, have a blessed day an also love your videos.

  • @decalcomania2004
    @decalcomania20049 ай бұрын

    I’m very proud of you Emma,you are gorgeous🤍

  • @jaimebohrtz4783
    @jaimebohrtz47839 ай бұрын

    Love you, Emma! You're such a sweet soul..❤

  • @crylikethis5784
    @crylikethis57849 ай бұрын

    It feels like I just talked to a friend although I've definitely never had a friend like you in my life lmao I'd be so scared to approach you cuz you're sooooo gorgeous. It was fun and educational, thank you for the video!

  • @mattyoung2603
    @mattyoung26038 ай бұрын

    As a mom with a trans child..I watch all these videos to prepare myself with knowledge just incase my kid decides to when they are older. Thank you for being candid and thank you for your personal experience

  • @asddewijklc

    @asddewijklc

    8 ай бұрын

    Woah you are an incredible mother, keep doing what you’re doing because trust me you are helping that kid immensely 🤝🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️❤️

  • @natasagrebenakova669
    @natasagrebenakova6699 ай бұрын

    Made my night ❤

  • @joanieDavids-gh3tt
    @joanieDavids-gh3tt9 ай бұрын

    ❤wow Emma, you are such a brave lady! I congratulate you for following your heart. By the way, I love how you keep your nails, so pretty & feminine❤❤! Emma you are an inspiration to many of us girls❤. Love & kisses❤❤❤❤

  • @lilianal410
    @lilianal4109 ай бұрын

    EMMA TELL ME WHAT SELF-TAN YOU USE PLSSS I LOVEE YOU GORLLL

  • @stuff1784
    @stuff17849 ай бұрын

    Aww you’re like a little doll!

  • @boujie1032
    @boujie10329 ай бұрын

    Whaaaatttt ? I would’ve never guessed slay

  • @carminhoadYT
    @carminhoadYT9 ай бұрын

    You are the cutest on earth

  • @paulogolive
    @paulogolive9 ай бұрын

    you're gorgeous 🖤

  • @jordyndillard8794
    @jordyndillard87949 ай бұрын

    I can't even begin to tell you how much better I feel after seeing this video. I have been on HRT for almost a year and a half. I just hope you know how much you are loved and valued.

  • @Danielle24-6
    @Danielle24-69 ай бұрын

    My queen 🙌🏼

  • @eeeee259
    @eeeee2599 ай бұрын

    I love u queen

  • @sarah-bq1sj
    @sarah-bq1sj3 ай бұрын

    you are sooo beautiful!

  • @user-po3uk4vn5e
    @user-po3uk4vn5e9 ай бұрын

    What lip combo do you use???😍😍

  • @Prettier
    @Prettier9 ай бұрын

    I don’t mean this in a bad way in any way but it’s so hard to believe you were born a different gender. Like wow, you’re such a beautiful girl, I would never think that, had you not said anything about it. You’re insanely beautiful.

  • @mari97216

    @mari97216

    9 ай бұрын

    She grew up as a «pretty boy», with not very masculin features. And found out very early that she identified as a girl. I think she has said it was at 7 or 8 and she told her parents. Even just growing out her hair made her look totally like a girl. Not sure if you have watched the documentary she was a part of as a child:) «Født i feil kropp». Been interesting to follow her journey and see how far she has come already in life:) she is truly impressive and strong! And obviously stunning.

  • @Prettier

    @Prettier

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mari97216 yeah I didn’t know much about it. I remember I saw her on KZread one day and thought, “wow she’s beautiful” so I followed her. Then I saw this video. Like wow absolutely impressive and good for her. She looks like a model.

  • @mari97216

    @mari97216

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Prettier ah ok. She’s Norwegian and has been famous here since the docu came out, but more famous the last years I would say as she has been more in the media and in podcasts and reality tv.

  • @Prettier

    @Prettier

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mari97216 oh nice. Love Norway and would love to visit some day. I’m from the US so we don’t hear much about Norway or Norwegian people and culture.

  • @mari97216

    @mari97216

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Prettier I hope you come and visit one day:)

  • @Gypsyrose17
    @Gypsyrose178 ай бұрын

    Dayum❣️🙌🏽🙌🏽 You’re stunning and I am straight‼️🤣

  • @lareineii
    @lareineii8 ай бұрын

    Stay radiant and beautiful always💛🧡💛 happy holidays to you over there in Norway😊☺️

  • @Danielle24-6
    @Danielle24-69 ай бұрын

    Omg the podcast vibe is so fucking cuteeee ✨✨

  • @kamiradalo3694
    @kamiradalo36949 ай бұрын

    Love itttt

  • @rexrosarch
    @rexrosarch8 ай бұрын

    You are my comfort 😊❤

  • @tarararararaa
    @tarararararaa9 ай бұрын

    we love youuu

  • @CielVenus1
    @CielVenus19 ай бұрын

    what's that incident she talks about?

  • @janelle.evangelista999
    @janelle.evangelista9999 ай бұрын

    i love u so much emma

  • @worldwidezepy
    @worldwidezepy9 ай бұрын

    i thought the video gone lost forever 😔

  • @maiaconcannon2319
    @maiaconcannon23199 ай бұрын

    You are so incredible 🤍

  • @jeremypratt6246
    @jeremypratt62467 ай бұрын

    You are you genuine and interesting person and your shows on you tube are funny

  • @elysiam2907
    @elysiam29078 ай бұрын

    Very brave girl. Really interesting story I think it’s nice more people are talking about trans surgeries

  • @mikaylamyers7924
    @mikaylamyers79249 ай бұрын

    Do you have any recommendations for hair removal? X

  • @uhcrackwh0re
    @uhcrackwh0re9 ай бұрын

    Thank you queen so excited to watch🤍🤍

  • @nayanmonigogoi5492
    @nayanmonigogoi54929 ай бұрын

    U luks gorgeous day's by day love u Emma ❤❤❤❤u r brave n strong women b happy n always keep smiling in ur charming face ❤❤❤

  • @emerald3331
    @emerald33317 ай бұрын

    I did see a report that said that being circumcised makes it harder to transition the penis into a vagina.

  • @Italiazplayb0y
    @Italiazplayb0y9 ай бұрын

    You definitely put a lot out there, much respect to that. I feel I have a better understanding of you and on why you keep your dating life private. If I ever have the honor and privilege of dating you, I just want you to know Emma that I can handle the critics and everything that comes with it. No situation or ppl could ever get in the way of me wanting to take you out on a Cafe date and get to know you better. You are worth fighting for. Later love

  • @AC-AC-AC

    @AC-AC-AC

    9 ай бұрын

    😬cringe

  • @Italiazplayb0y

    @Italiazplayb0y

    9 ай бұрын

    @@AC-AC-AC Nothing cringe about it my friend. Some people in life know what they want and not afraid to say it.

  • @daveallen6611

    @daveallen6611

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Italiazplayb0y i think he means because emma is transgender

  • @Italiazplayb0y

    @Italiazplayb0y

    9 ай бұрын

    @@daveallen6611 There is not one thing cringe about liking Emma. What is this 1950? It's 2023, soon to be 2024 people need to get over that. She's cute, silly not taking herself too seriously, likes horror films, a hopeless romantic, and has that cute Norwegian accent that I just can't get enough of. That's the kind of girl that does it for me. I like Emma and I'd never be ashamed to say it.

  • @daveallen6611

    @daveallen6611

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Italiazplayb0y no guy i know would admit that. thats pretty based. you a real one fr

  • @kaylah9206
    @kaylah92069 ай бұрын

    Omg I’m early!!

  • @Aristobulos7
    @Aristobulos78 ай бұрын

    How old were you when you had your surgery Emma? I’m new to your story. Thx

  • @Killshott-ww5pg
    @Killshott-ww5pg7 ай бұрын

    What I think it’s like to date Emma inside my head: She's everything. I’m just Ken.

  • @rosalinajongdahl7680
    @rosalinajongdahl76809 ай бұрын

    Dit engelsk er så godt! Elsker dig

  • @hrivvan4831
    @hrivvan48319 ай бұрын

    Luv u❤

  • @olive3036
    @olive30369 ай бұрын

    please start a podcast

  • @KALIMAindia
    @KALIMAindia9 ай бұрын

    Interesting video, good job :D

  • @anthonyboone9187
    @anthonyboone918721 күн бұрын

    .Love the information. Thank you and you are beautiful!🌹.

  • @milahmilah4661
    @milahmilah46618 ай бұрын

    Gosh i wish i had this beeing numb from the waist down .. i had my surgery in miami Florida didn't had any complications at all but my surgery was performed in a medica center i stood over night and the next morning at 6am i was put in our car and my husband drove me to our airbnb. Gosh awful experience for ke i couldnt walk right. But im greatful that i recovered and that i didnt had any complications. ❤

  • @20MOB3
    @20MOB36 ай бұрын

    My gf is trans. I love her so much. She wants to do this surgery but i don't agree with it. It says it will make her happy. Ofc i want her happy im just really worried for her...

  • @henrique.2975

    @henrique.2975

    4 ай бұрын

    Why wouldnt you agree with it? If u really love her, i think u should understand

  • @20MOB3

    @20MOB3

    3 ай бұрын

    @@henrique.2975 i have my reasons for which I do not need to share. Just know I love her and will support her no matter what

  • @SuperKiao

    @SuperKiao

    2 ай бұрын

    So you’re gay?

  • @veilbreak5867

    @veilbreak5867

    Ай бұрын

    He's not a woman. If you actually care about him you should do what you can to talk him out of castrating himself. It's crazy, and these surgeries don't work.... Nobody can create the opposite sex genitals. Having your colon put in a hole where your penis was and calling it a vagina would make mengle wince

  • @Nmh86

    @Nmh86

    Ай бұрын

    @@SuperKiaoa man with a girlfriend would be straight a man dating men are gay just helping that little guy you got to understand.

  • @AGirlLikeMe916
    @AGirlLikeMe9165 ай бұрын

    Same thing happened to me where I couldn't feel my legs. It's happened about 3 times.

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