Gen 3 OU Tier List - August 2023
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Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 3 sure is awesome. In this video I rank the viability of all relevant Pokemon in the metagame.
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0:00 Intro
1:11 Tyranitar
3:02 Skarmory
4:59 Zapdos
8:47 Swampert
12:43 Blissey
15:50 Salamence
19:48 Metagross
23:05 Gengar
26:38 Dugtrio
29:07 Claydol
31:15 Celebi
34:26 Suicune
37:37 Jirachi
40:29 Aerodactyl
43:52 Magneton
46:08 Starmie
47:59 Milotic
51:00 Moltres
53:31 Charizard
56:44 Gyarados
1:00:11 Heracross
1:02:00 Forretress
1:06:12 Flygon
1:09:15 Snorlax
1:12:37 Hariyama
1:15:55 Jolteon
1:18:21 Porygon2
1:20:23 Breloom
1:22:55 Smeargle
1:26:39 Cloyster
1:30:06 Vaporeon
1:35:17 Medicham
1:38:02 Kingdra
1:40:13 Venusaur
1:43:30 Dusclops
1:45:12 Weezing
1:47:40 Glalie
1:50:29 Machamp
1:51:12 Regice
1:53:40 Regirock
1:55:08 Blaziken
1:56:29 Ludicolo
1:58:27 Steelix
2:00:06 Articuno
2:01:59 Misdreavus
2:03:36 Raikou
2:05:18 Armaldo
2:07:09 Jynx
2:08:44 Houndoom
2:10:39 Dragonite
2:11:55 Registeel
2:13:06 Jumpluff
2:14:24 Marowak
2:16:02 Camerupt
2:17:00 Donphan
2:18:25 Alakazam
2:19:03 Sceptile
2:20:36 Banette
2:22:56 Arcanine
2:23:46 Miltank
2:25:18 Wailord
2:26:30 Exeggutor
2:28:04 Roselia
2:30:16 Entei
2:31:18 Quagsire
2:32:33 Rhydon
2:34:07 Sableye
2:35:38 Mantine
2:37:11 Umbreon
2:40:13 Outro
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My hopes were shattered when he back slid into medikam after 20 seconds of medicham. He eludes us yet again
@Nootathotep
11 ай бұрын
Medichamomile
@turtle_7777
7 ай бұрын
Medichamokilometer
@crabby6549
6 ай бұрын
Medichpm
@haveagreatday6952
25 күн бұрын
I always think he’s taking about a person
Let's be real, Gen 3 meta is basically any and every pokemon. Someday, you'll see your opponent running Muk or something and he gonna do the hardest counter to your team you'll ever see.
@elilopez6260
11 ай бұрын
Fire blast, sludge bomb, toxic, momento. If dug is removed you can really annoy Skarm and Celebi, even momento to keep up momentum. Or not idk I came up with this in like 15 seconds
@shevankaseneviratne1724
11 ай бұрын
@@elilopez6260 watermess made a mean look curse rest sludge bomb set i think
@suly5836
11 ай бұрын
To be honest, that sounds pretty nice, a meta where almost everyone can somehow shine if they do it well, might probably be one of the reasons why jimothy likes it so much.
@suckonthis4253
11 ай бұрын
Sand and spikes weak. Gonna have a hard time with muk. There’s faster explosions you would rather use Muk won’t ever be good
@muk_is_superior
11 ай бұрын
I always counter the opponents teams I know I know
“there are teams that rely on metagross as the solrock resist” that’s true, it’s a very effective check, resisting both stabs of such a central threat. thanks for providing this insightful commentary jim (in all seriousness, this list is great so far and im excited to listen/watch throughout the day as i find time)
@thejevilhimself
6 ай бұрын
( 21:43 )
Where is Lucario
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
That's Gen 4.
@Munby1
11 ай бұрын
Brilliant query.
@Momodofu
11 ай бұрын
what about my favorite gardevoir :’)
@arisengladiator
11 ай бұрын
This guy exists on another plane of existence where knowledge has no bounds and questions like this are met with commensurate astoundment and are surrounded by perplexity, rather than being answered by reading the title of a video in 2 seconds. I envy your world, my friend.
@helloiamenergyman
11 ай бұрын
@@arisengladiatornice pfp (:
Crazy what Speed Boost does to a mon’s viability
@AI-DreigonGPT
11 ай бұрын
Same with Arena Trap Dugtrio ( Arena Trap got banned and now its ZU )
@Ragnellrok
11 ай бұрын
@AI-Dreigon is that a tier below PU but above untiered?
@AI-DreigonGPT
11 ай бұрын
Yes
@unyoshisauvageapparait9260
11 ай бұрын
@@RagnellrokUntiered = ZU
@Justjoey17
11 ай бұрын
Ninjask nowhere to be seen…
What I love most about Gen 3 meta is how many Pokemon are viable, the power creep doesn't feel all that apparent in the format and there's the right about of defense and offense. I love all the niches a lot of Pokemon can have. Even something as lonely as Glalie has a use as an excellent spikes abusers and users of explosion.
@duelme1234
11 ай бұрын
And then you listen to bkc go "spikes restrictive", "this team inconsistent", "every team needs a x switch in". And I'm like "yep top players def see the game very differently"
@gamet2004
11 ай бұрын
I agree with you, Surgemaster.
@Elijah-hz9ls
18 күн бұрын
Same goes for Gen 4 (Ariados, Froslass, Glalie, Kabutops, Magneton, Nidoqueen, Porygon2, Qwilfish) Most of the PkMN listed have use in UBERS btw Unfortunately (thanks to this channel and other ignorance) DPP will from now on only be remembered for... Stealth Rock? Wow. Edit: Gen 4 not Gen 5 Gen 5 is veeery different from the SUPERIOR Gen 3 and Gen 4 Quiver Dance, Tail Glow, Gems, Rotom-"Appliances", Kyurem-B in OU and sooo much power creep that Gen 5's UU looks like Gen 3 and Gen 4 OU Btw people should really try out Gen 4 Ubers and especially DPP UU and NU, the lower tiers in Gen 4 are so much fun to play if OU isn't for you Gen 4 just like Gen 3 is so damn versatile, every Mon has like 30 different sets and uses and every Mon has a niche (or many) I prefer Gen 3 and 4 over the oldest Gens (not enough stuff and versatility, kinda boring and either 100 turns long or extremely hyper offensive like Gen 1 for example) and newer Gens from about Gen 5 or 6 onwards up to Gen 9 (power creep and other balance issues)
@TeteteR
14 күн бұрын
Is Crobat useable at all?
Mr. Jimothy Cool, I recently got into Gen 3 thanks to your videos, and one of the things contributing to the high skill floor of the game is the very specific EV spreads that aren't just unique to each Pokemon, but to each set on the same Pokemon. I think a video explaining how, say, a Gengar is specsed to barely live a Tyranitar Pursuit, or why a Jirachi with a speed-reducing Sassy nature might still invest 32 points into its Speed, will help new players get into the game even easier. Thanks and while I love all your videos, the Gen 3 ones are my favorite because it's such a cool metagame.
this is the bedtime content i've been needing in my life, thank you jimothy
having the entire tier list setup before you start the video is huge. wish everyone did this.
The Roselia segment was really something for me. Back in the day I remember trying to use one in OU just because I liked it aesthetically and got pubestomped, and it was so fun to discover so many years later it has some uses that I obviously never understood. Might come back to play RSE now thanks to your videos!
Gen 3 OU is so fun. You'll think you have a stable team against the meta and then some chad walks in with some crazy ass like Choice Band Tentacruel and absolutely ruins you and you realize that literally everything is viable if you work hard enough
Started playing after finding you about a week ago and it's the most I've enjoyed Pokemon in a while. I've been using a meta-check team with pull magneton and trace p2, metagross, suicune, celebi, and belly zard. I love how it feels like every game, I have the tools to win. It really feels like it's determined by who is making the better plays
0:57 "Im sorry in ADV"
appreciate all you do to hype up gen 3, it’s entertaining content and makes me consider picking ADV back up again. cheers jim
Bold of you to suggest that the objective best Pokemon of all time, Elemental Punching Hitmonchan, is not at least B tier. I used it in my in-game playthrough once and it only died all the time.
I fell asleep while watching this and had a dream that my therapist got bored and derailed my session to discuss offensive vs defensive starmie in excruciating detail with me
now that we have been gifted a tier list we need some jim cool gaming vids to empirically verify it
What a treat, listening to this while I’m at work. Thanks for uploading
I have returned to mention that wailord is walled by polytoed
I've just gotten into Gen 3 and would love more teams and team styles to try so more content is appreciated! Only now hearing about superman, interested to try it!
@VinceLovesToast
11 ай бұрын
Also a video on leads and the meta for what to expect would be interesting! Although I've started to modify teams myself, I usually just lead with whatever pokemon I got in the pokepaste by default without much thought beyond that
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJ-qpbxqaNy5h6g.html I have this old vid where I share some good beginner teams. I also built a new Zapdos TSS team recently that I think would be a good choice for a beginner learning the fundamentals: pokepast.es/51ba1a85303daa0d In this old vid I talk about what TSS is (The most central team style in the game) and why it's good: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYGG0MZpfc_Slps.html I do plan to do a vid about lead matchups in the future!
@VinceLovesToast
11 ай бұрын
@jimothycool Thank you so much Jimothy, Big Fan! Will check these out
Awesome to see the format is so varied! Honestly i think you've finally broke me into giving it a go, might swing something with heracross - cool pokemon i've never used.
Before even starting I LOVE how specific the tiers are and how many there are lol. There really can be that many distinct tiers in some games
Very informative video thank u Jim. Ur content made me start playing Gen 3 OU and it is very fun
Mr Jimothy, it would make me a very happy man if you could explain the general state of many past gen tier lists to me, such as those from 1-6. In return, I would like to offer you this wonderful comment and a subscription.
Love the gen 3 vids mate, i can't find very many people out there that do content on it even though it's such a brilliant generation
Great vid, and thanks for contributing to the wonderful Gen 3 community ❤❤
Trying out Dragonite and a defensive set wth Heal Bell + Ice Beam + Fire Blast + Toxic works great on superman
@boop53
9 ай бұрын
that sounds cool as hell
I'm surprised you left Espeon unranked considering you got good use out of it in the BL challenge vids
This wont stop me from using ampharos in every gen
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
I've tried it, funny Pokemon. It can Focus Punch vs Blissey which is decent
Oh damn Jimothy! I never knew you were into Gen 3 OU!
Been loving your gen 3 content. My partner has been away on a work trip for like a month and a half and I've been devouring your ADV streams lol
I have been messing around with sp def magneton recently in line with what you were saying about it being dead weight a lot of the time. Thunderbolt, hp ice, rest, sleep talk. Running with rapid spin support because it's less reliable limiting skarm's spikes. It has a surprising amount of utility in responding to zapdos, screening blissey from gengar explosion etc. (it straight up walls gengar without fire punch). It's exploitable sure but I find I get more use out of it in most matchups than regular mag.
This is an amazing vid as always, now I’m inspired to make some new teams with some weird mons.
I wonder if there's a case to be made for using both Chansey and Blissey, the idea being that you play a bit fast and lose with blissey potentially losing it, which then makes your opponent play fast and lose with their physical attackers, and then once all the Pokemon that could deal with Blissey are worn down, you hit them with the diet Blissey. I'm not saying it's good, just saying with how wild some Pokemon choices have been at the higher levels of gen 3 OU, I wouldn't be surprised if this idea has already been experimented with.
@opposumness3107
10 ай бұрын
That's actually super cool. The Bliss wears them down, so that they have no Chans.
Love the vid! any chances of we getting one of these but for gen 7 (but no listing megas 😊)
Tier list videos flow a lot better when started from lowest-highest. Enjoying the content tho!
The longest JimothyCool video ever? Count me in
Listened to this at the gym today love the Gen 3 content
15:50 M E N C E 🖤
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
nice Old Money badge. Thanks for the support.
New Jim Cool ADV tier list? Excellent
Love the gen 3 beginner friendly content
So many pokemon you've showcased are basically "top tier pokemon except it trades a bunch of things just to get one unique thing." Like Sableye and Lunatone. As fun as those videos are, taking a look at all the top tiers together really helps put into perspective what you're giving up.
@usernametaken017
11 күн бұрын
There are only so many (useful) roles a pokemon can fill (without an extra gimmick)
Multi hour tier list video, you are becoming the Otzdarva of Pokemon
Drinking game: take a shot every time Jimothy says "consistent" or "inconsistent". (Great vid btw, I'm picking up this format recently)
just got into gen 3 and it's rly refreshing after coming from gen 9. miss being able to use my favorite guys and have them be viable!
Mr. Jimothy, big fan. I've been binging your ADV content lately. Wondering which set of 6 forms the best Superman team to you? I'm trying to cover all my bases, but it's hard to find the perfect 6.
@DantinozMC
10 ай бұрын
Superman almost always has some defensive flaws due to the nature of the team. It often struggles with Swampert and boltbeam coverage. I quite like: Ttar, Blissey, Skarm, Gengar, Flygon, Aero. Aero makes up for some of the defensive flaws. You kinda want fire coverage on Flygon (for skarm) and Grass coverage on Gengar tho (for pert). Play standard TSS style until aero cleans.
Great list and insight! I just noticed that Ninjask isn't on the list, is it really considered that unviable now that baton pass got nerfed?
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
Nah Ninjask is decent but I don't respect it and think its pure cheese. Kinda hard to rank for that reason. Some matchups it auto wins, some it auto loses
Tyranitar, Skarmory, Zapdos, Swampert, Blissey, Gengar. The gentleman’s choice.
been binging the hell out of your content so seeing this just uploaded is absolutely fire, keep it up!
It’s crazy how of all pokémon here, only 3 are still OU
You should do a video going over the ultra niche mons that you wouldn’t bring to a serious game! Clefable gang!
I’d love for you to make a video on the who is number 1 debate between skarmory and tyranitar
My fave jirachi set when i was playing gen 3 ou was sub+cm+fire punch+hp grass with max hp/speed investment, if you can get rid of their strong physical attackers the little guy can absolutely slaughter after a few cm
Mpalestory Music is everywhere I go haha
What do you mean Swampert can't just easily terra poison against HP Grass?
@spiciestbirb
5 ай бұрын
Tera Grass is way better. Tera poison makes it weak to Tyranitar's Earthquake
@danyg0000
3 ай бұрын
@@spiciestbirbbut Tera poison makes swampert resist Hitmontop’s fighting stab
TIERLIST LET'S FUCKING GO
The Maplestory music in the bg :D
Honestly Lanturn should be in D instead of bottom tier. It has a really silly and legit niche in the metagame. Great defensive attributes with only weaknesses to grass and ground and an immunity to electric via volt absorb. It’s definitely not standard but it does have a little bit of merit. It’s the only bulky bolt beam resist in the entire game and has unique and legitimate qualities that no other Pokémon have. It is not without flaw but it is definitely a useable Pokémon. BKC has an entire video dedicated to ADV Lanturn, worth a watch
@Imitationist
11 ай бұрын
I like the sub/hydro/tbolt/icebeam set with SpA investment. Simply switch it in on a free turn or smth weak to water/electric, sub up as the opponent switches, and fire attacks.
@FlemetAeton
11 ай бұрын
I got pretty high rank during gen 5 a loooooong time ago with lanturn. Crazy how such a silly looking Pokémon can do so much work. I wish I remembered why I used it other than being amazing at dealing with the OP rain teams at the time.
@DantinozMC
10 ай бұрын
I would argue Blissey and Regice could be said to be bulky bolt beam resists. Lanturn functions almost the same as Regice, with the downside of being completely removed by dugtrio. It has some merit, but I do think it is very bad. Looking at Jim's list though, I would say that it's better than Mantine, Quagsire and Wailord. Cradily is also better than many mons in the tier above imo.
@thekrampusclaus4148
10 ай бұрын
@@DantinozMC definitely agree Dugtrio weakness is brutal. That’s its biggest problem. Definitely a rogue pick to keep in mind though, might be a good bring once in a while. Really needs something to eliminate/deal with dug tho
@Imitationist
10 ай бұрын
@@thekrampusclaus4148 Substitute when you expect a counter to switch in
something that immediately jumps out at me is... i did not know that venusaur is this viable
@DantinozMC
10 ай бұрын
Been finding a lot of success with venusaur recently. Very fast sleep + leech seed + checking zapdos in one mon is very nice. Need to pair with spikes tho imo.
JIMOTHY COOL THE MOVIE OMGGG
I’ve seen a few cool weezing teams in mushi league recently. Also I am a mantine believer.
Rest Zapdos is so fun to use. Just sits in front of so many mons while they waste all of their PP away
He pronounces baton the way i did when i was a kid, oh the memories
From my (very limited) experience, I get TONS of mileage out of destiny bond speedy gengar. He has tbolt and fire punch willowisp to do what he can, and once he has less than 1/3 hp he can take away whatever I don't have an answer for
Altria pretty good on Superman with spdef, heal bell, and natural cure for rest sleep
seems like a pretty solid list to me, pretty much my only objection is not having slaking in the mid tiers. i would much rather use slaking than anything in c tier, and i'd probably squeeze it in between kingdra and venusaur. also this is minor but i disagree with the idea that gyarados needs dd, i use a 3 attack twave set and i find it very versatile and useful. the meta centers around ttar/aero and standard special threats, and standard defensive cores focus on checking those, which means less common threats tend to ruin your day and gyara can improve your matchup into all of them while also threatening the common defensive cores itself. it checks swampert, suicune, zard/molt, heracross, medicham, metagross, most blisseys, and the vast majority of mixed threats, while disrupting your opponent with twave to support its teammates, and threatening huge damage with hp flying/rock, eq and double edge
Did you not rank da bug (ninjask) out of spite (valid), or do you not think it is a viable option? I think ninjask is still quite solid on cheesy teams.
@DanielMarty43
8 ай бұрын
That evil bug doesn’t even deserve a discussion
Just want to point out surprise psychic on Blissey can be fun to :)
Mister Cool, what is your opinion on Ninjask in the gen 3 OU format?
Hello, it's ya boi, a new gamer
While I was watching this I started to wonder if it’s possible to make a good competitive team out of only flying/levitating pokemon so that you’re completely immune to spikes and can just ignore them. If the opponent starts setting up spikes before they know your gimmick then they’re basically giving you free turns and you never have to waste time removing them.
@MMurine
11 ай бұрын
He mentions a team style at 43:04 called Superman that is basically just this concept.
@honjon666
11 ай бұрын
Also at 1:06:30 while discussing flygon
honestly i think people should maybe try and explore more bulky cloysters and not care about hitting that 244 speed as much. another thing that sucks about it is that swampert can just focus punch it when it makes a spike, killing it if it switched in on a hydro pump
I’d be interested in a video about what the meta game would be like without Tyranitar. Sandstorm shapes the tier to such a degree it would seem like a different game almost.
since aggron my beloved is absent from this list, it is with with a heavy heart that i must return to my home of gen 4 uu
@kenshiro8984
11 ай бұрын
head smash 'em up
Great video, cruel gen for our boy Crawdawnt :( Doesn't even appear in the list I assume due to Water and Dark moves being special before the physical/special split in the following gen and thus making it worthless to even condiser. But man does it do well under TR from gen 6 upwards
@frogwhisperer4268
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I dont know why dark is even special. All the moves got turned into physical moves. Crawdaunt is still kinda bad tho; in gen 4 it's significantly worse than Feraligatr, Azumarill, Kabutops and even Poliwrath, it really got a lot better with Knock + Adaptability.
@Iamthe2G
10 ай бұрын
@@frogwhisperer4268 Yeah, until gen 6 it couldn't really shine because of what you said. I also wish it had 65 base speed instead of the paultry 55 because then it would make slightly better use of DD. I tried it back in gen 7 alongside webs and it worked fine so long as there were no flying mons, well, flapping their wings above the webs :') or the Latis too since after a DD, jolly Crawdawnt capped at 343, eight points short of outspeeding them. Still, very threatening with CB and/or under TR and just interesting design imo :D
I love Yama, but I need to figure him out more. I know breloom and heracross immediately die to a Skarm drill peck, but Yama doesn't take it well either. Yama feels hard to capitalize on for me; yes, his traits are cool but they're geared for longer games. Definitely prefer Breloom's immediate utility and pseudo DDTar and aero checking abilities with mach punch. And a late game heracross is the scariest thing in the tier. Nothing is so explosive as it. Love the fighters
@kamiltarnawczyk
11 ай бұрын
I fully thought you were talking about Yanma
@Imitationist
11 ай бұрын
Normal Hariyama sets with def investment take about 40-46% damage from an uninvested Skarm DP, so Wish support is key here
Where would Iron Mugulis fit in this tier list?
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
Dug weak E-
Is gen 3 ou popular? Id love to play this gen because so many of my fave pokemons(salamence, milotic, metagross) are apparently viable
Sub Salac Heracross is my favorite set in the tier
Seeing how good flyers and levitators were in this meta against spikes, I kind of understand now game freaks mindset when they made the cursed decision to have stealth rock use type effectiveness to determine damage. Still cursed tho.
Wasn't for Craydilly and Clef used in the champions team for journey across America?
lanturn and lunatone not officially in the tier list is very sad
Im surprised you wouldn’t use lunatone? That mon has a pretty nice niche imo.
Now that you tried every joke pokemon in existence, make a video about the most underrated fellows.
@yohanbosu
Ай бұрын
Also please do another one of these tier lists
I'm not new to Pokemon, but I'm new to gen 3. Could you suggest a team that's solid but not too predictable? Difficulty to pilot is not an issue. I just want something good to learn the format with.
@jimothycool
10 ай бұрын
Try out this Zapdos TSS pokepast.es/8a0f337164f00d5b
Dodrio is S+ tier. I will not elaborate further.
I have been testing Cradily and it's good.
@shevankaseneviratne1724
11 ай бұрын
yep. sand immune recover. if it had leech would honestly be firmly ou
@Imitationist
11 ай бұрын
I like to use Barrier and Mirror Coat on this guy
Let's be honest here: meteor mash is the poor man's dynamic punch.
You should do a tierlist for hoenn gaiden
Dragonite with estreme speed, that was big in gen 3
bkc wishes he could produce content at this level of quality and be as engaging as you
@shevankaseneviratne1724
11 ай бұрын
i think bkc maybe more knowledgeable but jim is a much better entertainer. Plus seeing the dudes face adds more expression to everything
This is my asmr
You forgot to rank the dastardly yet despicable deviant Iron Mugulis
thanks for introducing me to gen 3 OU jimothan. i tried playing it for the first time today with a sample team (starmie TSS balance) and discovered 2 key things: 1. i dont know what im switching into this mixed mence and 2. metagross is scary 😭 which team archetypes would you recommend for a complete beginner to the tier? like i guess something that will help me learn the tier quicker anyway thanks for being cool jimothy 😎
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
That Starmie TSS team is solid but maybe a bit outdated now. Many gamers disagree but I've never enjoyed Offensive Starmie on TSS teams I think Big 5 Zap is a good team to start out with. I built this one recently: pokepast.es/b2c09b5915ad8cfb vs Mixed Mence you have switchins for all their coverage that can force them out (e.g Gengar on Brick Break, Zapdos on HP Grass). Bliss can come in vs a special move, take the ~40% from Brick Break and KO with Ice Beam
@tomsucksatpiano
11 ай бұрын
@@jimothycool thanks so much!
2:50 . . . I thought he got the spdef boost lol. I always switch him in vs. magnemite
Imagine if he made gen 9 tier list.. He blew up cuz gen 9
@pandakk721
11 ай бұрын
Imagine he made tier list for every gen OU
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
Imagine that.
@armaldoaster97
11 ай бұрын
imagine if I blew up your house....
Where is aggron :( you did a whole vid on his niche in gen 3 OU and now he is nowhere to be seen
"Swampert is targetable because HP Grass is everywhere" Isnt HP Grass everywhere specifically BECAUSE of pert? Suffering from success
Weezing gaming
@Pudcup
11 ай бұрын
He