Gen 1, 2, or 3? Which Coyote Mustang Should You Buy?
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All three platforms have good reasons to buy them. They're all great, but it all boils down to what you're looking to do at the end of the day. Maybe our opinions will change your mind.
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Had an S197, and now have an S550. I agree, the S197 was the last “mustsng” body style. But I love my S550
@GolfCoyote
2 жыл бұрын
Also, the “let’s go Brandon” comment, take my thumbs up lol
I like what Derrick said about his car, I feel like he really likes the older mustangs!! He’s old school in a young man!!! The cars looked sick sitting together like that!! The videos with you and Derrick are really fun to watch, good team together. The tour will be AWESOME, the front of your car looks sick!! Gen 3 all day!!! They are BAD straight off the lot!!!
Glad to see Brandon back I seen one of the videos when he said he wrecked his car glad to see it back on the road
All of the mustang are sick glad to see Brandon’s mustang is back it looks sick with that new front bumper
Had all 3...loved all 3...but im rocking Gen 3 now. Glad Brandon's back.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
I love the looks of the 13-14. They are the perfect mustang in my opinion! The looks, the modernization, the retro que’s and the taillights are the best taillights to ever be put on a mustang. The 10 speeds are a game changer though, but still I would take the 13-14 if given the option.
@5point0h67
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, if I could have found a low mileage 13-14 😢
@SiCxNeMeSiS
2 жыл бұрын
@@5point0h67 My 2014 s197 only has 35k miles don't drive it much tho..
@5point0h67
2 жыл бұрын
@@SiCxNeMeSiS that’s super low mileage for a 2014! That’s awesome
@SiCxNeMeSiS
2 жыл бұрын
@@5point0h67Yeah I am only 3 miles away from work lol Got my S197 new as well
@KMY_
9 ай бұрын
I fully agree with u
I personally have a s197 that I vmp boosted last winter because of Derek’s vids of his setup. But my brother in law has a 18 10speed and wow!!! It’s amazing as well. But I have to agree the s197 is like an old muscle car. But if I was gonna daily one, it would be a gen 3 for the 10 speed and interior
Gen 3 FTW!! Only thing I haven't done is an intake w mine and made about 490 and I can beat on this thing daily n she keeps on ticking. Now I'm looking into boost to see where that goes....
I have a s550 but I never knew a s197 could look so aggressive… man Derrick did his thing!!! I honestly think the s197 is just raw power
@BC08
Жыл бұрын
11-14 S197s look the best
Ive had a 2013, 2020 and now a 2021 GT PP1 with the 401A and Magnaride like you do, except I have carbonized grey and MT82! I totally understand where Derek is coming from on the feel of the S197 and the looks. It felt a little sketchier when getting rowdy. But the Gen 3s are just so nice on the inside, especially with 401A. I love the look of the PP1's, you can go E85 with just a tune, the auto rev match sounds so sick when downshifting, the magnaride feels so smooth, active exhaust comes in handy for my Karen ass neighbors, and its almost easy to make big power with those engines. I loved my S197 and would say its the second best, behind the Gen 3, given that the Gen 3 is a premium PP1 or PP2. S197 over a base model Gen 3 for sure!
Keep up the good work you my modern-day archaeologist
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks
I love all the Mustang generations (besides the mustang II lol) but the s197 I think is the best and last true mustang generation... I really do love the s550s they just dont have that raw feeling to them.
Had an S197 3 valve, and a 14 coyote and now the S550 predator. The 14 with 3 pedals was fun on the edge all the time and my favorite out of the 3 generations I had prior to the 2 S197’s. But now it’s hard to compare both on a roll and around corners on a track somewhere with the GT500. Interior is whatever floats your boat I say. But the S550’s have grown on me over the years. I thought my 05 was the closest to my 68, but I love them all now. All 3 cars are awesome!
@Toolie800
2 жыл бұрын
Damn bro let me get a stang sounds like u got the whole collection😭
@BC08
Жыл бұрын
2010-2014 S-197 is a guaranteed classic - probably the most “Mustang” of all the late models
Spinning isn’t winning when it comes to planting power. That is where the Gen 3 and Gen 2 shine over the Gen 1. I tried to buy a 19 Gt 6 speed and couldn’t find one around October 2018 but was able to drive the 10r80 model 2019 Velocity Blue black out package and was in my driveway that night. No regrets what so ever!
Derek is absolutely right! Last real looking mustang 👍
those are some bad ass Ferraris🤧 nice vid man i really gotta grab a gt500 hood for my s550
I’ve had a ‘66, an ‘09 and now a ‘20, the ‘66 was a 6cyl, 3spd but my ‘20 is so beautiful she wins everything! Gen 3 for me!
If you boost it and put good tires and suspension on it and tune it right im pretty sure you'd have little to no traction issues
Love my gen 2🚗💨🔥🐺
Nicely done ,italian brother !! As you say , Mustang always and forever!! , I had s197 and I loved it !! Inside ,outside Gorgeous!! I know have 19 s650 and fell in love with it too . God bless, stay safe enjoy and buon natale ! FORD FORDEVA!! 💙👍☝
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother much love 🙏🏽💪🏽
@joepaone6346
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 i messed up bro , I now have s550 . My bad. Much love ❤🙏
Yes we need the race ASAP, Derek get on that e85 life already 🤣
I love your channel and content bro! Great Job! I just upgraded my 2020 Mustang Ecoboost to a brand spankin new 2021 Mustang GT Premium Automatic with the 401A package, I love the digital gauge cluster. I chose Shadow black with the black accent package and I'm in LOVE!!! I reserved the car while it was being built so no one else even got to test drive it! Keep the Mustang content rollin I can't get enough.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother I appreciate it!!
I have a 2014 s197 with the glass roof and heated seats still but I traded my s500 their was no point in keeping it. It on had a more hp
2019 Oxford White PP1 car, 401A premium A10 here. 11.6 1/4 mile bone stock with a set of drag radials. Gen 3 A10 cars are pretty fast. I had a 2013 ZL1 Camaro before and it was faster, but it had headers exhaust, intake, and tuned by Spartan LSX Performance. I'm definitely happy 😊.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the car I love mine
I’ll take my 3 valve 4.6 bolt on, amazing sound but slow aka all bark no bite! But 05-09 body style 👍🏼
Gen 2 it's the headlights I just love the front end more. Now I want Brandon's hood and bumper on my white S550.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
It’s so clean looking
@169abr
2 жыл бұрын
The straight tri bar instead of the bent ones just looks so simple and clean.
I had a Gen 3 6 speed FBO, kept it for 2 years, then I bought my Gen 3 10 speed automatic, its now procharged lol man this car is sick. Only complaint is that it spins out, I need to put a drag pack on it. Other than that, I love the Gen 3 its sexy ASF
Sick shirts bro I’m about to order one
Nice t shirts! Gen 3 still the best so far!!
@richardklotz3718
Жыл бұрын
How can we get those nice T-shirts?
GEN 2 engine / 6R80 is the most stout combo if you want to go boost. No denying the advantage of having 10 speeds though. I have raced my VMP boosted GEN2 / MT82 car a lot. Stock suspension. Car has held up great. Derrick needs to run your Gen 3. It will be fine. Just throw some Boostane in the tank for added protection before the run. I’m really interested to see this race because I know the 10 speed cars punch above their dyno numbers.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
My old car was a gen 2 with a 6r80 and I was about to put a whipple on it cause ik they are beast
Great video bro
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thx bro
S197 or BUST!! #LastMustangProduced
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Cap
I love the S197 5.0 /6R80 FBO its fast stock but body style thats the only reason why i got it the s550 is alot heavier and looks more Euro to me but i can build and boost the motor to make 800+ to the Wheel if i really wanted too but staying stock i can make 500+ which im happy with that
@vestroh3984
2 жыл бұрын
u have an auto s197?
I have a 2020 gt great car for track days!
I have a 2014 gt convertible. It has been the most reliable car I have ever owned. I have over 185,000 miles, and it shows no signs of stopping. Not one check engine light since I bought it with 93,000 miles.
@ItalianStallion410
6 ай бұрын
That’s good to hear congrats keep it going!!
Gen 3 no doubt. I still love the 13-14 body style tho. Throw a gen 3 in a 14 with the s550 interior and call it a day. Oh boost it too 😉 I want that shirt. Did you just call the mt82 a great transmission??? I'm boosting my 2020 mt82 and I'm worried it's going to blow up in my hand haha
i feel like i left out a lot cuz i didnt get the premium package on my 2021
Awesome rides!
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
I have a 2021 GT and love it. I have to admit though that the S197 front looks more aggressive.
Definitely the Gen1 but the prices now for them it makes more sense to just go for a 10speed
@169abr
2 жыл бұрын
The 11-12's can be had for a decent price still, but people caught on to the looks of the 13-14
5.0 shirts lowkey tough bro🤟
Btw, when you guys do your east coast tour, I would suggest the old VA Center Commons mall. Plenty of parking. Yes I'm in Richmond as well! You guys might need hundreds of parking places
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@terrywalker9092
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 I just edited my post. You guys will probably need 100' s of parking places. Don't think Kevin can handle that
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrywalker9092 yeah we will figure it out!!
Can't wait to see Brandon banging gears in minion again
I must be overlooking it, but I don’t see where or how to purchase the merchandise namely the 5.0 T-shirts.
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
We don’t have them anymore I got shirts on my website tho
A lot of people complain that the gen1 coyote is a horrible drive, have they ever drove a sn95 or new edge. Coming from a 03 new edge into a gen 1 coyote it feels like a night and day difference and its sooo much more comfortable. So of course the newer the car the more comfortable it's supposed to be. So much hate for the gen1 it's not even funny people act like a older mustang is supposed to have better interior than newer one.
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
I have an 18' gen 3 with a manual tremec T56 magnum Trans (ya not the shitty factory mt82 lol) it has FBO's on 91 octane. I want to keep it all natty and try to make 600 crank horsepower or more. My plans are ported heads and manifold, cams, E85 and a Lund racing tune. Trying to be the highest horsepower daily driven all motor gen 3 in San Diego 😎
I Started out with a 2012 mustang GT and liked that it had a H pipe from the factory so it Sounded good but when I was going past 100mph the car felt unsafe so I bought a 2015 mustang GT which I liked better after I put rear IRS stop the hop braces on it ! and then I got my gen 3 2018 mustang GT which I Love the Best because it's a Ten speed automatic and its Fast!!!!! ;)
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new mustang
@Texas_C8
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 Thanks Ive had it since july 2018 !!! :)
great vid
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
You’re getting the full forged carbon interior? 👀 I’d definitely be interested in that!
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
👀👀
They did the same thing in early 2000s rounded the mustang bad move, I do like the rear but if had Derek’s front end would be awesome! They went old school for a reason
The looks of the 13-14 win hands down. If I could have afforded it I would have gotten a gen 3 coyote for the performance of course and the 10 speed
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
Buy all of them
Hey man if you got that bumper pre pinged can you send me a link to where you got that bumper for your gen 3. I can find the bumper but none that come pre painted
@homelesshopz7820
Жыл бұрын
Painted*
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think any of them come pre painted anymore cause they where having problem’s with paint chipping off
I have a 19 GT Orange Fury with just an x pipe and steeda axle back its a 10speed been great to me but if ford rolls out the new shelby with a tremec 6 speed im getting rid of my gt
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
I love that color orange furry I almost bought a gt500 in that color
I'm thinking about getting a new stang, but after some research,they have issues,electrical,tranny,engine,do yall have any issues.......
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t everything had problems but most of my buddies cars have been good
@djdev3077
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 ,everything don't have issues, my Toyota Avalon doesn't have any,Ford on the other hand does,even in the foxbodies the t5 would have bad synchronizers,and now in the s550 they have 2nd gear lockouts,Ford didn't learn anything........
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
@@djdev3077 yes everything has issues Toyota is nowhere close to perfect the one Toyota I had parking break broke within a week and my uncles Hylander had nothing but electrical issues….
I saw a video saying gen 3 has a lot of issues after it gets boosted past 900hp. The video said gen 2 is the best option when boosting for large numbers despite the initial advantage of gen 3 since the gen 2 motor is less likely to break down. Is there any truth to this?
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Not really sure about that everyone I know says the gen 3 is a lot stronger than the gen 2
@valiant7357
Жыл бұрын
Gen2
I have a manual and If I was going to go for a 10 speed it would be 2024 10 speed.. They have improved the shift points and the quickness of the shifts.. But honestly to me there's nothing like Rowing your own gears.. I don't care if the 10 speeds are faster the manuals are 10 x's more fun..
@ItalianStallion410
Ай бұрын
Yeah manual is fun
theres a red honda ridgeline in the background
If you ever boost it please go centrifugal supercharger not positive displacement
@Oliver-ft2fq
4 ай бұрын
I also prefer centrifugal because it’s so much better to put the power down.
Wait didn’t they make a coyote motor for the 2010-2012 gt’s or are those also gen 1s?
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
I think so
@BrandonMirandavlogs
2 жыл бұрын
2010 was a 4.6 three Valve, the Gen 1 coyote started in 2011-2014
@fullsendmikeperformance9931
2 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonMirandavlogs ah yes of course cause it was 2010 when they still used the same drivetrain and power train components from the 05-09s but wanted to introduce the new s197 gen at the time which gave them a starting platform to finally introduced a better power plant which came to be known as the coyote motors
Gen 1 is a no go and really can’t be found If youre just talking about crate engines. The best overall coyote is the gen 2. The one that can produce power the easiest though is the 3. As for cars the gen 1 drives like a truck. The gen 2 is refined and the 3 is perfected. The 10R80 Vs the 6R80 though just isn’t as stout nor is the gen 2 motor Vs the 3. Period! The 3 is much weaker than the 2 in regards to the motor. The 10R80 has a lot of wonky issues unlike the 6R80. Either way all 3 are great.
I’m biased for the S197 gang but I’m rockin the 3V instead of the coyote😭
Not lyin when my 2020 10R80 hits 3rd gear around 70mph it sidesteps and breaks the tires loose. I went 3rd gen 10r80 because I wanted an all engine handling build since I do canyons more than straight line.
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
I got a 2014 Q50 and I make good power to be fbo with a tune and I use to own a S197.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
I like the q50 they look so nice
@FrontierOffroad
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 Thanks man. I like the Gen 3 Mustangs too.
S197 with gen 2 built!!! The Villain!!
I'll take my 07 Grand Marquis. With a gen 2 swap... I wish - one day 😅
AMENN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gen 3 for the win 🥇
Gen 3 definitely the best!
Gen 1 for the win 🏆
Foxbody all day lol those coyote motors are insane tho I want one for my fox
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Fox is king 😈
I had a couple S197’s and to be honest after having a S550 the S197 felt cheap. The S550 is superior in every way,especially the interior.
@1meancanam
2 жыл бұрын
You must have had a shitty few gen 1s cause I have a 2012 premium and it has a fantastic interior and I obviously upgraded it to make look even better
@socalstangman4655
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 11 GT/CS, 14 3.7 and a 14 GT Premium. My 16 GT premium was way,way nicer than all of. It felt and looked way more refined. The S197 feels cheap to me after being in a S550. Just my opinion, you do you man.
@AJ-ke6yb
2 жыл бұрын
@@socalstangman4655 ooooooh he's a lil salty, lol Gen 2 6speed all the way.😎
@jpsantone
2 жыл бұрын
@@1meancanam S197 is not even close to the S550 interior wise.
@1meancanam
2 жыл бұрын
@@jpsantone never said they were similar or close or even looked the same if you read my comment my good sir I said the s197 interior was fantastic and I loved my premium
The Boosted S197 would smash that 10 speed on the highway. 40 or 60 roll. The10 speed advantage is from dig!!
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Introvertedlenses
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 10 speed got a gapplebees treat from a whipple s197 off a 40 roll
Derek- It’s tough to see myself in something like that Also Derek- Buys 10 speed
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Lol right 😂😂
Yeah buddy get that #1 comment lol. I love the motor of the gen 3 the body style of the gen 2 and the raw nastiness of the gen 1.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree the gen 2 body style was my favorite
Where you get that shirt at ⁉️⁉️⁉️
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Link to website is on Derek’s profile!!
Gen1 body with a full Gen3 swap. That would be sweetness.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
That would be dope
Can’t go wrong with any generation. Personally I love the look of the 13-14 the best. However the s550 with a gt500 bumper looks amazing. I do love the technology behind the gen 3 but it came with the most problems. I have a 2020 GT.
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother I feel like everything is hit or miss now days plus more tech more problems always
@ZFA1738
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 yeah I agree. I love my gen 3 s550 gt. I do have the bbq tick and 2k rattle but hasn’t caused any performance issues. I just have mbrp Catback and recaro seats. Will probably remain stock until warranty is up. I’d either go whipple or roush. I have 14k miles so still have time to decide. Nice video bro, all 3 cars are clean af.
@ZFA1738
2 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for gt500 bumper and paint and all that? Or did you install and paint yourself? Looks clean bro, I plan to do this soon!
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZFA1738 thanks man and I think everything paint and bumper plus install was like $1600 it wasn’t that bad
@ZFA1738
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItalianStallion410 that’s not bad at all. Thanks for your response man, definitely earned a subscriber!
I went with the gen 3 because ford only gave me 1 option hehe.
Anyway I can buy a 5.0 shirt ? No more on website
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
No sold out
Whipple would be beautiful on that gen 3
@ItalianStallion410
9 ай бұрын
I agree
I feel Derek 100% s197 last true mustang body style I gotta say🔥🔥🔥
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
They are awesome
Gen2 has best motor and 6r80 is king over 10r80 for max power. So gen2 easy.
@trunkslorenzana
2 жыл бұрын
I agree even Lund racing states that as well, Gen 3 is good only for Max effort NA.
@169abr
2 жыл бұрын
10R80 is a cheat code, makes the car wayyyyyy faster than it should be, but if you wanna go fast Alex is right, Gen 2 is king daddy.
Gen 2 and 3 have higher compression. When is the race going to happen, between Cocaine train and Minion?
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
👀👀
@BrandonMirandavlogs
2 жыл бұрын
👀👀
I’mma build my MT-82 to stage 3
You need a GT500 hood to match with Derek and Minion, bro 🤙
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
I like that hood Alot but I got something dope on the way!! Not many people run it! Gonna look so sick
Gen 3 all day
Gen 1, because I have one.
@ItalianStallion410
10 ай бұрын
Respect 💪🏽🇺🇸
All gens are the best😁
Gen 1 for looks, Gen 3 for modability.
Technically not a coyote, but the Boss 302 5.0 roadrunner is the best engine.
I really want a 2014 5.0 but the prices are through the roof, I found a 2018 6 speed 42,000 miles for $26000 and all the 2014 I look at have 80000+ miles and they want nothing under $22000
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the car market is ass backwards rn I wouldn’t buy used rn
The Boss 302 Roadrunner is better than all of these motors .
@SeriusChevy
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my dream car 😍
@jamiebaker5358
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@atown27
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebaker5358 How???
@jamiebaker5358
2 жыл бұрын
@@atown27 get a 2019 5.0 10 speed… you will be faster with less money
@petrolhead8851
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebaker5358 the boss 302 comes with ported heads and intake manifold from factory and forged internals from factory that can handle 1000whp all day! It’s a better motor than any of these lol
He said he like it raw guys 🫣😂😂😂
@ItalianStallion410
6 күн бұрын
@@richardmarquez3394 😂😂😂
Overpaid 24k? For a gen 1 with 14k miles? I wish i could find something like that in my area
@ItalianStallion410
Жыл бұрын
Shit that seems like a good deal
@TheKamren315
10 ай бұрын
Lol i paid that for 91k miles but it was what i wanted 🙃🙃
over pay for the gen 1 for the time lol just bought my 14 gt track pack base with 49k miles for $26500 prices ridiculous
How the hell did Brandon get the screen to say that when it comes on 👀
@APersonNamedAnimal
2 жыл бұрын
You can play around with the touchscreen and press some buttons in a certain order and you can change around to a bunch of things from ford and Lincoln’s line up. But after you shut off the car it goes back to the stock screen. To keep it permanent you need to use forscan.
@BrandonMirandavlogs
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what he said ^^^^ I have it programmed in forscan to have the GT screen
Lets definitely see blucifer vs the gen 3 10 speed
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
We will make it happen
Gen 3🤟🏽
@ItalianStallion410
2 жыл бұрын
💪🏽💪🏽
Gen 1