GEC 405 line Television factory Coventry 1960

Great little video of the GEC TV factory in Coventry back in 1960. Despite some automation TV manufacture was still a very labour intensive activity!

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  • @dangruner5926
    @dangruner59262 жыл бұрын

    As someone young, I am amazed at the level of automation even back then. Attention to quality seems to be much better than today. Back when Britain was great.

  • @BlondieSL

    @BlondieSL

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasn't just Britain. It was like that all over the world. In the USA, RCA put the highest quality into their design and builds. Precision was paramount as well the highest quality of parts and workmanship. The RCA color CRT was literally the best on the planet back in the 1950s to early 1970s. But as time goes on, quality has left the scene for the most part. The TVs made now are no longer made by the "big guys." They are mostly made in China with low quality parts, bad workmanship and lack of care in design and build. Panasonic still made good TVs. We have 2 Panasonic TVs, plasma, one is 3D and other than minor repairs, they are flawless. And as for repairs, the only issues I have had to fix is on the 3D TV, it started to turn itself off after being turned on. It turns out that this was a good thing! One of the cooling fans stopped spinning and the system detected that, so went into shutdown mode. That was an easy fix. But I noticed that one of the main power supply caps (a large one) was just beginning to bulge at the top. I replaced that and it's been working fine ever since. The other Panasonic, not 3D, failed once and that too was just a power supply cap. Easy fix., BUT.... I've been through 4 SONY 4K TVS! The first one, that I just use for the computer, was excellent for 2 years and it started to have failing LEDs. That was replaced under warranty with a GARBAGE model. I basically brought that home, connected it, only to find that it has these very thing, PINK super fine hairline marks on the inner layers. I returned that one that day and they gave me another one (this is Best Buy). I get THAT one home (same model) got it all set up only to find that it had an actual CRACK right in the center/bottom of the screen. It was a perfect 1/2 circle! Also, INSIDE the layers! By this time, the manager of this BestBuy location was involved and he appreciated that I wasn't angry. I explained that I was a TV Repairman long ago, so this kind of thing wasn't new. The good thing, though, was that for that month, a Sony rep was in the store. We had some chats in private and he admitted that this particular model is known to have problems and he didn't understand why Sony was still sending them out instead of doing a recall on them. Needless to say, I didn't want a 4th one, so the manager offered me a top of the line model that was like $700 more. I said that was too much for just a "computer monitor". So, he was very cool about it. He gave it to me for cost,which then only cost me $100 more, including another 4 year warranty. LOL It's been great. Knock on faux wood. 😂😅🤣

  • @Midlander1956
    @Midlander19563 ай бұрын

    Does anyone else see the irony of a colour film used to show production of a black and white tv? I just smiled as I remember watching a ‘huge’ 26 inch b&w tv and thinking, “wow”! Great film….

  • @terrybyrd5105
    @terrybyrd51055 жыл бұрын

    These older videos were quite informative and professionally presented without hype or drama. One might actually learn from these old videos.

  • @davenz000

    @davenz000

    5 жыл бұрын

    More or less like the How It's Made series in recent years, not clickbait youtube crap that we're getting accustomed to.

  • @BM-jy6cb

    @BM-jy6cb

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice to see a British documentary about manufacturing not presented by two overgrown children shouting "COR! WOW!" and "THAT'S AMAZING!" every time a basic fact is patiently explained to them by a bemused line manager...

  • @tomstrum6259
    @tomstrum62592 ай бұрын

    Just amazing Tv set manufacturing documentary....Had no idea early 1960's Tv production utilized large Pc boards & such advanced assembly technology....

  • @2opler
    @2opler5 жыл бұрын

    That`s the Spon St works, where i had an interview for an engineering apprenticeship in `77, i was 16. There is a cinema complex there now. When the factory was demolished it exposed walls with huge old advertisments for GEC televisions.My father was in the toolroom at the Stoke plant and my mum was a coilwinder at the Helen St site. All our electrical goods were GEC (if they made them) staff discount and you could have the installments deducted from your pay packet.

  • @ecsciguy79
    @ecsciguy795 жыл бұрын

    14:58 - I see that Percussive Maintenance has been a useful technique for a long time

  • @TaigaFolk
    @TaigaFolk5 жыл бұрын

    How I love music in those oldie documentaries, it was so lively and optimistic! Today it sounds like some darn war or catastrophe is going on 24/7 all around the globe, with those dramatic string staccatos, bombastic cymbal crashes and Carmina-Buranesque choirs. The world completely lost its sense of humour, everything became dead serious, even utter nonsense.

  • @Ndlanding

    @Ndlanding

    5 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more, TaigaFolk. Those docus are the bee's knees. As for the present-day ongoing tympani-created tension, it's that there ProTools that's making us all feel like we're living on Death's Doorstep. And not Dad's Army.

  • @BarefootBeekeeper
    @BarefootBeekeeper5 жыл бұрын

    My father was working there in 1960

  • @harrycoffeynield6941
    @harrycoffeynield69415 жыл бұрын

    I remember as a kid turning our old set on, you had to wait for it to warm up. Then watched the dot disappear when turning off.

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they took a while to boot up.

  • @Ndlanding

    @Ndlanding

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bingola45 Yeah. B&W valve TVs used to "boot up". I suppose you "powered" them "down" when that bloody minister came on for Late Call (or whatever they had down south). 10-4 Over and out.

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ndlanding Roger.

  • @stevedoubleu99B

    @stevedoubleu99B

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ahhhh, the dot. I loved the dot. It definately should be re-incorporated into modern sets. Also, bring back the turret tuner!!!

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@stevedoubleu99B We never had a turret tuner for YEARS. When ITA came out, we got a converter!

  • @jonka1
    @jonka15 жыл бұрын

    I have restored many 405 line sets to working order including this model. It has proved to be my most reliable set.

  • @joohop
    @joohop5 жыл бұрын

    Earthlings working together is a Great Achievement

  • @joohop

    @joohop

    5 жыл бұрын

    We Do Not Partake In Such Menial Activitys As Football We Prefer To Create Wonderful Music And Spread It To As Many Worlds As Possible Stay Safe Earthling

  • @richardmoss5934
    @richardmoss59347 ай бұрын

    We had an Ekco TV, purchased in 1957 and kept alive untill 1977 when my father finally relented and switch to colour!!

  • @jayc2469
    @jayc24695 жыл бұрын

    I was making Tubes for Philips / Mullard in the 80's-90's and I recall using 2 foot piece of 1" plastic hose to hit the screen as hard as possible, to remove particles that can become lodged in the slots of a shadow-mask, behind the screen of the Glass Bulb. Ah memories!. The said device was referred to as ones _'Hogger'_ - and Hoggering being the act of striking the face of a television :)

  • @Ndlanding

    @Ndlanding

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jayc: was that a bit like "bugger", but non-catholic? I seem to remember that Late Call...

  • @kevvywevvywoo

    @kevvywevvywoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    if it happened in the customer's home the recommended procedure was to hit the faceplate with a slipper

  • @tenmillionvolts

    @tenmillionvolts

    Ай бұрын

    I worked in a regunning factory in the 90s and we had a pneumatic hammer with a rubber end that would rattle against the glass. If that didn't cut it, out came the fence post and we would slam the tube face with the end of the post. We called it spot knocking. I learnt just how strong the tube faces were 🙂

  • @jayc2469

    @jayc2469

    Ай бұрын

    @@tenmillionvolts We did Spot Knocking too! The plastic hose we used was called a 'Hogger' 😆

  • @tenmillionvolts

    @tenmillionvolts

    Ай бұрын

    @@jayc2469 Do you know why it was called that? We never used that term. I wonder if it was a local thing.

  • @stewartmcmanus3991
    @stewartmcmanus39915 жыл бұрын

    My mother worked there in 1962.

  • @dynadean7244

    @dynadean7244

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Nan ,mum , & Aunty all worked there in the 70,s

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra5 жыл бұрын

    This is better than the best tech museum! Gold to my eyes. This is just so fascinating.

  • @kevanparker908
    @kevanparker9085 жыл бұрын

    My first job in the late 1960's was making the cabinets for TV and Radiograms,cannot remember GEC but we did, ITT KB and Thorn EMI electronics cabinets for both Radiogram and televisions.

  • @johnr6168
    @johnr61686 жыл бұрын

    I was very fascinated by this. Thanks for posting. GEC were one of the first firms to use PCBs and many other firms used complete hand wiring with tag boards well into the 60s. I'm surprised how automated the production actually was for the time.

  • @OlegKostoglatov

    @OlegKostoglatov

    5 жыл бұрын

    Many manufacturers continued using point to point wiring because there were many problems encountered with early printed circuit boards, such as traces falling off the board, poor solder joints, etc. Zenith was one such company, they employed hand wired chassis right into the 1970s. Other manufacturers used a mix of hand wiring and printed circuits in their chassis, such as they would use P.C boards for the I.F strip, but use hand wiring in the high voltage section, and anywhere they had hot running tubes/valves.

  • @mohammedanwar-zz2ld

    @mohammedanwar-zz2ld

    5 жыл бұрын

    tr 90 for your jazzmen ..... me no 0.01 mf myself prefer car ignition capacitor 0.22 mf. to use in between jack headphone socket to cd or CASSETTE PLAYER BETTER.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.......PLEASE USE OLD SOLDER FROM NEAR BY......................... dear MR OlegKostoglatov THANK YOU

  • @Ailgadem

    @Ailgadem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mohammedanwar-zz2ld r/ihadastroke

  • @richiehoyt8487

    @richiehoyt8487

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mohammedanwar-zz2ld Someone fell asleep with the phone in their hand, I think! Hope they didn't drop it!

  • @swingmanic
    @swingmanic5 жыл бұрын

    GEC used double sided boards which although common today weren't so much back in the day...I remember repairing the old hybrid Pye colour tv's with a CDA board that used to look like the ocean waves as time went by, due the heat from the 4 valves (3 PCL84's and a PL802)...A company called LEDCO even made a solid state version of the PL802 which wasn't all to reliable!..The old KB (Kolster-Brandes) used hand wired chassis and even had a baby alarm input (State of the art stuff :)

  • @michaelbyrne5507
    @michaelbyrne5507 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. GEC were ahead of the time.

  • @bizzydizzy
    @bizzydizzy5 жыл бұрын

    This is a fascinating document from social, manufacturing, and electronic viewpoints. I pine a little for when devices could be hand-made and comprehended by individuals. I bet there isn't a single person who fully understands every aspect of any modern TV.

  • @t5o7m

    @t5o7m

    5 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Dudman | Perhaps not "fully", --but I understood them well enough to repair them from 1972 to 2001

  • @robinbockman7247
    @robinbockman72475 жыл бұрын

    Great insight to TV manufacturing. Lot of people lost their jobs when digital and automation came in. Reminds me of the old car manufacturing.

  • @stevedoubleu99B
    @stevedoubleu99B5 жыл бұрын

    1960, wow, some pretty advanced manufacturing techniques for the time. Thanks for posting, very fascinating.

  • @agfagaevart

    @agfagaevart

    5 жыл бұрын

    Advanced yes. But many factories did not improve their manufacturing techniques into the 1970s and '80s, and used the same practices, hence their decline. And oh yeah, thanks to competition from the Far East. 16:44 Dunno about that mate.

  • @richardh100
    @richardh1009 ай бұрын

    Great i have this on a BVWS DVD , my dream job if I was born in time😮

  • @davidstonier-gibson5852
    @davidstonier-gibson58525 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating to me as I have never worked in a large company but run my own very small scale electronics manufacturing. Apart from valves (or as we call them, pickled electrodes) the biggest difference between large scale manufacturing now and then is that their board assembly line was custom configured for that particular assembly. These days the machines are robotic, so by simply changing the program and the component carriers you can switch from televisions to phones, or between one model phone and another. The actual printed circuit (PCB) fabrication process is 100% familiar; I've made and used boards with pretty much that exact same workflow except for punching all the holes in one hit. I hand drilled hundreds of boards as a young lad. The process today is much more sophisticated although the underlying principle is still the same: selective etching of a copper laminated sheet of insulating material. Also the level of automation in the PCB industry is mind boggling. As a consequence I, as now a hobbyist, can get 5 boards made to my computer aided design and delivered from China for about $20.

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    From China? You would think that the shipping costs would render such a transaction unaffordable. There must be some major economy factor involved which mitigates the transport costs. I wonder what that could be?

  • @davidstonier-gibson5852

    @davidstonier-gibson5852

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bingola45 That ~$20 is $2 for the boards and ~$18 for airmail. The question to ask is how can an eBay vendor in CHina sell you a 75 cent gadget with free delivery?

  • @zunaidkajee4540
    @zunaidkajee45405 жыл бұрын

    I love how even the young men loading the trucks are wearing suits. People back then had so much pride in how they looked, no matter what the job was. If you met them outside work, you would automatically have respect and kindness towards them

  • @Gribbo9999

    @Gribbo9999

    5 жыл бұрын

    Even the typical "family man" watching television with his family was wearing a suit and tie. My dad used to watch TV wearing a tie. He even tended his allotment wearing a tie.. Actually it was a pain in the arse world full of petty shit. Don't get fooled by nostalgia.

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    Working in a jacket and tie was horrible. Thanks God those days are gone forever.

  • @agfagaevart

    @agfagaevart

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Gribbo9999 Despite the fact that jeans were "workwear" until later on.

  • @pcno2832

    @pcno2832

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not sure about the UK, but in the USA, it was common for people to dress up for these demonstration films and for executives to make cameo appearances. I remember one of a guy demonstrating a handicap van and ramp in a 3 piece suit. That said, people did dress better back then, and they fit into whatever clothes they wore better than today.

  • @IrishvintageTVRadio
    @IrishvintageTVRadio4 жыл бұрын

    If only I could go back and get a few parts.

  • @ducter2001
    @ducter20015 жыл бұрын

    Gosh... the women had a lot of hard work assembling those sets. The repitition must have been head wrecking. When u got home last thing you wanted to do was look at the TV!

  • @agfagaevart

    @agfagaevart

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could they even afford a set??

  • @azmath2059

    @azmath2059

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@agfagaevart no. probably not. the cost would have been prohibitive compared to the wage. It would have taken around one year of wages to pay it off!!

  • @19seventy97

    @19seventy97

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many people had a TV by the 60s. Don't forget the man would definitely be out working, at a better paid job. TV sets were also usually rented out, which meant cheaper upgrades, free repairs and cheaper than buying.

  • @charris939
    @charris9395 жыл бұрын

    All that careful work and attention, then we just chuck the boxes into the back of the truck!

  • @atlantic1952
    @atlantic19525 жыл бұрын

    A great film to see, many thanks for posting this gem. Its wonderful to see the time when England made things in our own factories employing local people. I have owned several GEC TV's over many years and always found them well built & reliable for their time.

  • @dzee9481

    @dzee9481

    3 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with you those were the days when each country had manufacturing like this and employed many people. And give reason to go to school to become and engineer to hopefully work in one of these industries. The problem now is corporate greed and politicians that encourage all this to be built off shore. Those were the golden years.

  • @alannoorkoiv6281
    @alannoorkoiv62815 жыл бұрын

    Lovely shot of Broadgate!...

  • @RichardMNixon-zh6uz
    @RichardMNixon-zh6uz5 жыл бұрын

    I can smell the smoke residue of Chesterfield's while watching this. Nice.

  • @davidstonier-gibson5852

    @davidstonier-gibson5852

    5 жыл бұрын

    More likely Senior Service or Craven A.

  • @kristianTV1974

    @kristianTV1974

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're never alone with a Strand! My dad loved that ad, broke my heart to tell him it was later reviled as one of the worst ad campaigns ever..

  • @numberstation

    @numberstation

    5 жыл бұрын

    Players Please!

  • @leswatson

    @leswatson

    Жыл бұрын

    Wild Woodbine (in green packets) for my dad.

  • @daveys
    @daveys11 ай бұрын

    Great film!

  • @GARY.94
    @GARY.943 жыл бұрын

    I must say that was very therapeutic to watch and listen to!. What geniuses all the team were back then in that factory 60 years ago, how they took great care, and attention to detail was amazing!. Regards.

  • @mattbates6887
    @mattbates68875 жыл бұрын

    The good old days, when TV and radio manufacturing in this country was in full swing. Labour intensive it may have been, but at least it was employment with jobs.

  • @BlackRose-vi2yg

    @BlackRose-vi2yg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tbh.. machines make far more reliable goods!!

  • @Gannett2011
    @Gannett20114 ай бұрын

    I'm always torn when watching these films. On the one hand, I worry about what consumerism is doing to the environment; do we really need all this stuff? On the other, seeing the innovative techniques developed by manufacturing engineers is awesome. And it was techniques like the ones seen here that brought the prices of consumer goods like TVs down. I'm also saddened that manufacturing like this left the UK. There is no reason except greed that manufacturing couldn't have stayed in the UK. Frank Phillip's clipped and clear narration just put the cherry on top for me!

  • @godfreypoon5148

    @godfreypoon5148

    4 ай бұрын

    No, you don't really need all this stuff! Please, stop buying it! And with the money you no longer need, you should take a more menial job.

  • @LarryKelly
    @LarryKelly Жыл бұрын

    Reminded me how much I hated factory work. Sometimes the boredom made the day seem to never end.

  • @-abacchus
    @-abacchus5 жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable automation for the time !

  • @gigteevee6118
    @gigteevee61185 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful stuff, such a great view into tech production in the 60''s, TV was the future!

  • @michaelhawthorne8696
    @michaelhawthorne86965 жыл бұрын

    Looking at the layout of the floor in the high up long shots I think that GEC building was in Spon Street. I worked there from 1983 to 1986 (Fourth Floor) but at that time it wasn't producing TV's but Telephone Network Circuits.. I was a Technician there and worked on 2GHz to 19GHz equipment. Shame there wasn't an outside shot of the building.

  • @MartynCole

    @MartynCole

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wondered if it was based in Spon Street, now long replaced by the Skydome even though it was a listed building. I remember being bored to death in the apprentice training school that was based in Spon Street in the early 1970s.

  • @davidboult4143

    @davidboult4143

    11 ай бұрын

    So that would have been making system X. Originally the old Rudge cycle factory.

  • @gpo746
    @gpo7465 жыл бұрын

    My mate restored one and uses it now and then...The 405 line whistle gets my ears though!

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have one of these; often referred to as the 'bow front'. Works well enough. A little bit too modern for my taste, though.

  • @scottfirman
    @scottfirman5 жыл бұрын

    we were still watching 1950's television in 1960. My Dad always bought used tvs. When color tv came out we were probably the last to get one and the color was all messed up because of bad tubes and my dad was color blind. We didnt know it eather. He would ask my mom if the colors were correct, then mess it up anyways because he couldnt tell blue from green.

  • @martinlintzgy1361
    @martinlintzgy13615 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Thank you for the post.

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 Жыл бұрын

    Vivid picture truth! now there's a great selling point.

  • @TheChrisEMartin
    @TheChrisEMartin5 жыл бұрын

    Back in the days that we actually made things in this country!

  • @tcpnetworks

    @tcpnetworks

    3 жыл бұрын

    You still do! Just not as much as you used to.

  • @gb5uq
    @gb5uq5 жыл бұрын

    The all transistor BRC Thorn sets were game changers.

  • @cambridgemart2075

    @cambridgemart2075

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the 3000 /3500 series; used to run as hot as hell as they still used the valve type droppers.

  • @Witheredgoogie

    @Witheredgoogie

    4 жыл бұрын

    BRC2000 was solid-state and the BRC 3000 was the birth of the chopper power supply...now used in almost everything..

  • @kakurerud7516
    @kakurerud75165 жыл бұрын

    its great how that guy hits the top of the set to try to fix it.... in the factory.....

  • @rogeronslow1498

    @rogeronslow1498

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also noticed that.

  • @gregorymalchuk272

    @gregorymalchuk272

    3 жыл бұрын

    Poor contact of tube pins can be fixed with a good whack.

  • @rongann4850

    @rongann4850

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stockdale said his daddy spit in the back and whomped it good to get it working again.

  • @glpilpi6209
    @glpilpi62095 жыл бұрын

    We had a two channel GEC similar to these with a sliding door which covered the screen. It's true when people say " They just don't make things like they used to " . GEC was huge when this film was made , they made everything from railway trains to tv sets , radios and cookers to electrical and electronic parts.

  • @MrsZambezi

    @MrsZambezi

    5 жыл бұрын

    All destroyed when GEC management made the catastrophic mistake of divesting itself of all the less exciting profitable sections, turned into Marconi and went all out for the telecom bubble.

  • @hoofie2002

    @hoofie2002

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely - a great innovating company destroyed by useless management.

  • @MartynCole

    @MartynCole

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrsZambezi Trying to put Intel Pentium processors into System X exchanges was a total disaster, upgrading the GEC designed processors would have made more sense but they wanted bragging rights of using Pentium chips.

  • @keithessex3873

    @keithessex3873

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrsZambezi GEC destroyed Plessey also.

  • @chrisb718
    @chrisb7185 жыл бұрын

    Women without tattoos, who'd have thought it. I was two when this was made. Great video.

  • @thisisnev
    @thisisnev5 жыл бұрын

    I grew up with a rented GEC in my parents' living room in the 70s. Among several repair callouts, I remember one where the power button broke free and disappeared inside the casing - British engineering at its best... eventually my parents bought a Panasonic and never looked back! Also, RF suppression was still rare in the early 70s, causing picture breakup whenever the neighbours used a lawnmower or a motorbike went past.

  • @MrsZambezi

    @MrsZambezi

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm interested why you have such a low opinion of British engineering. It's also clear you have no understanding of RF suppression, because that has to be applied to whatever creates the interference. It can't be applied to a TV.

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrsZambezi It's a 'generation' thing. 'Britain is Shit' was the message taught to the post-war generations, in order to pave the way for pan-European government. I grew up with it; happily I was one of those who saw through it.

  • @pcno2832

    @pcno2832

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrsZambezi From my experience, the Japanese were just better at putting things together right the first time than any western country. When they started selling radios in the USA, a lot of them sounded like crap and were mediocre in many respects, but they didn't break down. It might be something to do with the corporate structures defined in Western law; companies seem to find it easier to coast on past accomplishments, then pay off their stockholders and leave their creditors holding the bag when they can no longer compete.

  • @MrsZambezi

    @MrsZambezi

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pcno2832 I still use my 60s Hacker. There never was a reliability problem with British radios. The pocket radios from Hong Kong and Japan sold because they were cheaper.

  • @video99couk

    @video99couk

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bingola45 Brexit voter no doubt, look at where that's got us.

  • @ShahidAli-mb7yp
    @ShahidAli-mb7yp5 жыл бұрын

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  • @usmale4915
    @usmale49155 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and informative. Thank you for the video upload!!

  • @luisantoniomarrega1120
    @luisantoniomarrega11205 жыл бұрын

    Nesse tempo as coisas era mais simples e a vida era boa. Abraço! Rio de Janeiro Brazil

  • @Penguins247
    @Penguins2475 жыл бұрын

    Good percussive maintenance at 14:59 :)

  • @circuitsmith
    @circuitsmith5 жыл бұрын

    Nice vignette of the Industrial Revolution there.

  • @Ndlanding
    @Ndlanding5 жыл бұрын

    I felt so "up" on watching this that i ran out and bought a GEC telly. Still waiting for it to arrive, but I recognize that it's hard to get non-visually-impaired quality control staff in sexy dresses, so I won't complain yet. I can't wait to see if it's real mahogany or just a veneer.

  • @krisraps
    @krisraps2 жыл бұрын

    I Just LOVE This Video. From HOW They Talk And Everything About It. Printed Wiring panels, Ohh, So retro

  • @logotrikes
    @logotrikes3 жыл бұрын

    My aunt used to sit on the arm of a chair with her hand at the back of a 17 inch PYE trying to fix the horizontal hold. Being a widow with little money she couldn't afford to have it fixed. Don't think she ever did.. This was in the late 50's....

  • @shyleshsrinivasan5092
    @shyleshsrinivasan50925 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this video !

  • @Blacksheepishot
    @Blacksheepishot5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, loved that video for it kick started some memories of a time not so long ago. Yes indeed, in those days they did indeed have thick circuit boards supported by chassis made of steel not plastic . Sadly, like in all things even with the best components of the times which made up this miracle vhf product came one serious flaw? Those power hungry heat producing vacuum tubes had very short lifespans. as for that b&w single gun picture tube not a problem for it was built to last for sure. No, it produced little heat itself but collectively now we have a serious watts problem here. after tech school opened up a tv repair shop in 71 and vacumm tube sets like those were still everywhere. Now fixing sets like these were fairly easy for most had similar problems. via horz or vert hold problems mostly sometimes some scratchy sound due to the 4.5 mhz osc going off freq due to a leaky tube or bad cap. Now a lot of sets I repaired were sadly, half transistor color sets via (convergence ry.by.gy. nightmares) and many times even with a scope evaluation, and a sams ya would scratch your hair out trying to repair em.

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think this is the British General Electric Company, rather than GE of Schenectady, New York.

  • @rectify2003
    @rectify20033 ай бұрын

    Amazing

  • @waltersmart1824
    @waltersmart18245 жыл бұрын

    I worked on TVs in the late 60s and 70s I hated these sets with the sideways boards they were famous for having loose connections!

  • @rogeronslow1498

    @rogeronslow1498

    5 жыл бұрын

    I laughed when they mentioned on a couple of occasions how reliable the sets were.

  • @Penguins247

    @Penguins247

    5 жыл бұрын

    I must admit, my first thought when I saw this video was "Those valves really need some sort of restraining clip to hold them in when they're mounted vertically like that."

  • @jimhowison2225

    @jimhowison2225

    5 жыл бұрын

    I worked on some of them as well, but I don't remember much about them. Our first colour TV was a GEC 2041 hybrid. I had still a lot to learn then, and when the TV suddenly developed a dull picture, I was convinced the crt had packed in. It turned out to be the 100K screen grid/ 2nd anode feed resistor which had burned up due to being underrated wattage wise!☺

  • @MrSerendipity01
    @MrSerendipity013 жыл бұрын

    Notice how the narrator says, 'soldering' and not, 'soddering'. USA viewers take note!

  • @wendybockman3079

    @wendybockman3079

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo. My dad always said soldering. In Canada they say soldering too,always grates. To hear it.

  • @leswatson

    @leswatson

    Жыл бұрын

    The Chinese get it all wrong by calling soldering "welding." 🤣

  • @edwardbyard6540
    @edwardbyard65405 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what they would have made of today's pick & place machines, and the few humans needed to run an entire plant. A great video though, thanks for sharing!

  • @vilasboas0306
    @vilasboas03065 жыл бұрын

    Época inesquecível!

  • @armandjauh
    @armandjauh4 жыл бұрын

    Buenas tvs, teles viejas. 😃📺👍

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin5 жыл бұрын

    I had a GEC (colour) television in the late 70s. It had a Hitachi CRT and it was very reliable. Pity the "smart" whizz-kids in the city of London didn't realise what value they had in the GEC company before selling off all their manufacturing to become "Marconi" and finally destroying the company.

  • @cambridgemart2075

    @cambridgemart2075

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was GEC Marconi for a very long time, long before its demise. You're correct about Hitachi tubes, the last ranges of GEC TVs were actually badge engineered Hitachi sets.

  • @MervynPartin

    @MervynPartin

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cambridgemart2075 The GEC heavy engineering core side of the business (railways, power plant etc.) had joined up with Alsthom of France to become GEC-Alstom (I think that they had dropped the "H" from the name by then) but then sold all their share to Alstom to concentrate on the small consumer and electronic goods and made a complete pig's ear of it. The GEC brand name was sold to GE of the USA thus ending confusion between the 2 separate companies.

  • @cambridgemart2075

    @cambridgemart2075

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MervynPartin There was a very large part of the company involved in aerospace, defence, and space, that was GEC-Marconi's area of speciality and they were in existence well into the 90s, parts of it past 2000.

  • @kevvywevvywoo

    @kevvywevvywoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    The GEC-Hitachi factory was at Hirwaun in wales, ostensibly a joint venture but really a way for Hitachi to gain access to the UK by circumventing the import quotas. The late 70's Labour government gave huge grants to foreign companies to build factories in areas of high unemploymemt to keep the jobless figures down. The conservatives that replaced them followed a similar policy

  • @MervynPartin

    @MervynPartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevvywevvywoo Sony also have a factory in Pencoed, South Wales (one of my friends worked there for some time).

  • @6dBperOctave
    @6dBperOctave5 жыл бұрын

    The commentary is BBC Home Service stalwart, Frank Philips. He was a newsreader during the war, and on a Nazi list. He also did voice-overs, especially on cinema newsreels

  • @Ndlanding

    @Ndlanding

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand this: "on a Nazi list". Please explain.

  • @6dBperOctave

    @6dBperOctave

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Ndlanding Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany compiled lists of the names of people to be arrested and imprisoned (or worse) when Britain had been invaded and taken over.

  • @Ndlanding

    @Ndlanding

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@6dBperOctave Thanks, 6dB. I guess that's still going on around the world, but now they don't even invade before silencing the journalists. Sad, innit?

  • @6dBperOctave

    @6dBperOctave

    5 жыл бұрын

    Frank Philips was not a journalist. He was a radio announcer. All sort of prominent (and not prominent) people were on the lists to be rounded up if/when the Nazis invaded Britain.

  • @clifftonicstudios7469
    @clifftonicstudios74694 жыл бұрын

    Everything in my home apart from a hidden laptop is from the 50s even tv and my car. Im only 33

  • @petermainwaringsx
    @petermainwaringsx3 жыл бұрын

    We had a GEC TV set when I was a kid.

  • @jamesoneill2556
    @jamesoneill25563 жыл бұрын

    405 line b&w tv. I remember it well but not fondly.

  • @19seventy97
    @19seventy97 Жыл бұрын

    I have one of these, well a BT318 made in 1960. I often wonder if any of its own parts are included somewhere in this video

  • @mohamedhaneefa4429
    @mohamedhaneefa44295 жыл бұрын

    I Love GE .. Nostalgia ..

  • @crist67mustang
    @crist67mustang Жыл бұрын

    Minute 3:27 we can see Queen Elizabeth working in the television sets manufacturing in 1960. 😛 Greetings from 🇨🇱 Santiago Chile SouthAmerica

  • @robsemail
    @robsemail Жыл бұрын

    0:45 Back when people put on their Sunday best to go to the living room and watch TV.

  • @gabrielvieira6529
    @gabrielvieira65293 жыл бұрын

    that is sooo cool

  • @wanderdasilvapinto2674
    @wanderdasilvapinto26743 жыл бұрын

    Por isso eram duráveis, componentes de ótima qualidade e montado por mulheres.👏👏👏👏

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome...

  • @IrishvintageTVRadio
    @IrishvintageTVRadio4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful film. A great insight into TV production, using what was the new PCB technology. The double sided print could be a bit of a bugger until you got used to it. The Hurdy Gurdy radio museum has one of these and when I've finished the Bush TV62, I might tackle it next.

  • @echodelta9
    @echodelta95 жыл бұрын

    For many years of viewing pleasure. Quatermass and the pit, and Dr. Who. But then how long did 405 persist when colour came on?

  • @macraghnaill3553

    @macraghnaill3553

    5 жыл бұрын

    echodelta, I remember we had an Ultra t.v in the early 60s which had a switch for 405 lines and 625 lines, 625 lines was the standard until modern T.Vs without a CRT [tube]

  • @mullioncove1
    @mullioncove111 ай бұрын

    I don't know about years of trouble free service, I remember repairing them : ) Hot valves and printed boards caused the paxoline boards to carbonate. Printed boards were better suited to transistors God Bless

  • @am74343
    @am743435 жыл бұрын

    Nowadays, that entire process is probably done by only 5 people! LOL!

  • @steuk6510
    @steuk65104 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see that people are working now it's most automated wonder how much jobs have begin lost with this and how much workforces have begin cut down and how much manufacture as begin sent abroad like to China

  • @tomstrum6259
    @tomstrum62592 ай бұрын

    16:40 ....Guy in a suit & tie working the truck loading dock !!

  • @markgraham4732
    @markgraham47325 жыл бұрын

    Good viewing.

  • @LindaTCornwall
    @LindaTCornwall5 жыл бұрын

    Back when companies REALLY wanted to make sure you were happy right out of the box, polishing, testing and retesting. Wouldn't it be nice now to not have to return something because it's faulty. At least once every couple of years I always have to return something faulty.

  • @erikj.2066

    @erikj.2066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now they have that little sticker that says "Q.C. Passed" that they stick on everything. Would love to see what the Chinese version of "quality control" is. I'm sure it's really just weather or not the little sticker got stuck on in the right spot....

  • @dandare2586
    @dandare25864 жыл бұрын

    We did not have a colour TV until 1975, my mom kept her money for more important stuff like food and a car. No need for many foodbanks back then, most people knew the value of money back then, unlike today.

  • @TIMBOWERMAN
    @TIMBOWERMAN7 ай бұрын

    GEC Cutoff in the titles makes it look like GE which is a well known American company. GE stands for General Electric and has no connexion with GEC.

  • @156dave
    @156dave5 жыл бұрын

    Quite sophisticated production line for 1960 wonder how long it took to repair The faulty units.GEC went bust after the dot com crash in 2000

  • @agfagaevart

    @agfagaevart

    5 жыл бұрын

    In the early 2000s they moved their light bulb factory to Eastern Europe.

  • @adrinathegreat3095
    @adrinathegreat30955 жыл бұрын

    If this was an American made documentary we'd be subjected to the world "Quality" in every sentence, quality components, Quality materials, Quality Quality control etc, it's like they have to reinforce or remind everyone.

  • @ZnenTitan

    @ZnenTitan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zenith; "The quality goes in before the name goes on"

  • @bingola45

    @bingola45

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ZnenTitan "QUALADY".

  • @bernardstef
    @bernardstef5 жыл бұрын

    Is the guy hitting the set at 15:00? 😄

  • @stevedoubleu99B

    @stevedoubleu99B

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's stealing the consumers job!!

  • @harrycoffeynield6941

    @harrycoffeynield6941

    5 жыл бұрын

    Always worked the bang.

  • @monetize_this8330

    @monetize_this8330

    5 жыл бұрын

    it was a common trick when they used valves and homes were full of nicotine smoke and heated with coal. I still find it mind boggling that today they moan about traffic pollution so much. Things were far worse 45-60 years ago.

  • @Knaeckebrotsaege

    @Knaeckebrotsaege

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. That would've caused any connection issues (cold solder joints etc) to show up at least momentarily, leading to that unit not getting packaged but fixed instead

  • @schorse1000

    @schorse1000

    5 жыл бұрын

    They had a special hammer, called "tube tapper", for this. Tapping the tubes detects crackling issues or microphonic tubes.

  • @luviskol
    @luviskol3 жыл бұрын

    Every care and attention apart from the set being transported upside down on the wagon at 16:43

  • @michaelturner4457
    @michaelturner44575 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure they're making the same TV my grandma had.

  • @diamonddave2622
    @diamonddave26225 жыл бұрын

    I love the smell of ferric chloride in the morning

  • @ZilogBob

    @ZilogBob

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hats off to the engineers who had to patiently design those PCBs with stick-on tapes, decades before Altium and all the other computer-aided PCB design tools we take for granted now. Yeah, ferric chloride has a unique aroma. :)

  • @jeromewhelan6723

    @jeromewhelan6723

    3 жыл бұрын

    This brings back memories for me. I worked in a printed wiring house while in college.... My dungarees were rotting out from acid exposure every couple of weeks.

  • @mikewatte4478
    @mikewatte44784 жыл бұрын

    Its all plastic led pixels and pcb today

  • @RB747domme
    @RB747domme5 жыл бұрын

    Just two years later, GEC would rip out the entire manufacturing process department, and refit it ready for transistors.

  • @OlegKostoglatov

    @OlegKostoglatov

    5 жыл бұрын

    What makes you think that? Transistorized TV sets were a rarity up until the early 1970s, and almost non existent in 1962 aside from a few high priced portables, which were actually hybrids. In any event GEC was building transistor radios from the mid 1950s onward, probably hand wired at first, and then with printed circuits. Transistorized products were not produced any differently, they used printed circuits, as did this television, the only differences are in the values of the components used, it's still lead through hole, and then solder.

  • @istvanmadar1104
    @istvanmadar11045 жыл бұрын

    Dark place...

  • @ppc7457
    @ppc74574 жыл бұрын

    good old british industry,RIP.....

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere2 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of chances for Lead poisoning in that factory, too.

  • @BlondieSL

    @BlondieSL

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yes. That was an issue for sure. And mercury too. Well... lots of other "bad things" as well.

  • @cedley1969
    @cedley19695 жыл бұрын

    Christ, an open bath of molten leaded solder with no fume extraction, good luck with the birth defects assembly ladies.

  • @starbar1958

    @starbar1958

    5 жыл бұрын

    I operated a small scale flowsolder machine in tha 1970 making simple games consoles (telefusion engineering) there was no extraction that I can remember the fumes from the flux were strong, and very little training or health and safety.

  • @p0k314COM

    @p0k314COM

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree. It is typical manufacture. Poor people.

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere2 жыл бұрын

    Ahh; the glory days of the lethal live chassis! Many a TV servicing engineer had received painful, and sometimes deadly, 250V electric shocks from TV and wireless sets in houses where the live and neutral (now line and neutral) wires were transposed, or where a reversible two pin mains extension connector had been added to the cable. If that had happened, the chassis was at 250V instead of roughly zero. Modern equipment with a live chassis is illegal, for safety reasons.

  • @hairybear7705

    @hairybear7705

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I remember that little death trap very well. I was in a house loft, aglining a TV antenna while the 'guvnor' was down stairs shouting "a bit to the left.......hold it there". Holding the aluminium TV antenna in one hand....I stretch over and grabbed a cold water pipe to steady myself. Wham! Truely the most severe electric shock in my entire TV workshop career.

  • @BlondieSL

    @BlondieSL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hairybear7705 I think that I have you beat. LOL I started learning TV Repairs as a teen. Yeah yeah, I was one of THOSE kids who got involved in Electronics at a stupidly young age. So here was my STUPID move.... and I still remember this like it was yesterday, but it was in the mid 1970s.... I was working on a Sears Color portable TV (which, as many may know, was actually a GE chassis and CRT). I got all the major repairs done, but had to do a rebuild on the tuner. Being young and not getting a lot of guidance when needed, my habit at the time was to power on the set to do troubleshooting, then turn it off. Being new to all that, I was very nervous about the high voltage wire to the CRT. So what I'd do, is take a long screw driver, ground it, then stick it under the rubber to discharge the tube. I had the set connected to a coax cable wire that of course, was grounded. I turned on the TV, but all of a sudden, NO PICTURE! As it was on, I realized that SILLY ME, I still had the screw driver... the GROUNDED SCREW DRIVE under the rubber protector on the CRT. Being young, one somethings doesn't think things through. sigh... I had the coax cable/antenna wire in my left hand.. GROUNDED... and then realized the screwdriver was the problem!!!! But instead of pulling the power plug and taking the screw driver out, sigh... bad memory here... I took off the GROUND WIRE that is attached to the screwdriver, AT THE GROUND CONTACT!!! Yes... you got it.... grounded coax in left hand, 28KV in the right hand! The electrocution froze me in place... in a panic, I couldn't move and all I could think of was to just let myself fall backwards to pull the wires out of my hands. Fortunately, that worked! THAT was the shock of my life, literally. Needless to say, I was left with a minor heart problem for the rest of my life.... fortunately, not life threatening. sigh... Lesson learned! The take away never let 28,000 volts course through your body, on hand to the other.... not good.