Watch the rest of this video series featuring Dr. Ramani instantly HERE: bit.ly/2Cdivhk

@itsjustmeRill

3 жыл бұрын

Please don’t film the interview this far from her face. It feels too detached. I hate it.

@arlenedye8609

3 жыл бұрын

I had a conflict with a church member who became my granddaughters mother-in-law. After church one Sunday in an overbearing intense accusing manner this person demanded that my granddaughters family, which is my daughter and me and my husband were not in no uncertain terms to trend near a subject she wanted to protect. After not being able to resolve her confrontation in my heart for several months my husband suggested we talk with she and her husband in person. When meeting with them I expressed how it made me feel when she confronted me twice and twice she denied my my explanation. After a little more conversation I realized I could go no where with this person and said, I'm done!

@michaelomalley592

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Ramona couldn't have been any more accurate in her knowledge of Gaslighting of which I can truly appreciate! I am a "Gaslighting" survivor which had taken place for nearly 3.5 years ago today when I'd met my ex-boyfriend (all mushy smut aside), It'd started out ever so "perfectly" of which I thought to myself that "this is the one". But once I'd moved in with him and the front door is shut, my 6th sense was ringing loudly and was nearly deafening; before I knew it, I was essentially playing a game of verbal "Russian roulette" Like with domestic battery or domestic violence: In public..they pretend to 'care about you', they act like a couple and are for the most part civill in the "heat of the moment" and so that there's no confrontation..however..once the front door closes, then they begin to show their true colors that they've hidden so well. It began mildly enough with small disagreements (ie doing the dishes, vacuuming, dinner done, etc.) I know that it happens in any relationship, but after the second week, things had got even more volatile when he'd decided to not only partake in drowning himself in beer as he'd drank straight from the bottle, he'd get into bed while smoking pot, drinking and snoring and out like a light!

@AlexAnastaso

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe we need to add dopt their reality when the experimental results support this reality, because the narcissistic person has a reality 2 or we can say gaslighing is neutural and depends on the situation if this is bad or not. If you avoid cohision and experimental results is bad, if not you just pointing out bad behaviour

@prettygeniuses3464

3 жыл бұрын

They will take revenge

Best response to a narcissist is none. No contact ever again. Ghost them.

@randydavis7718

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, Run Forrest Run

@moonhunter9993

2 жыл бұрын

true

@amanitamuscaria7500

2 жыл бұрын

the very first time anyone gaslights you at all.....no excuses and no second chances. WALK.

@oasisofchange

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. And do it before they do it to you. They love to discard their supply once one puts up one's boundaries.

@ayaction

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

The thing with the Narcissist, you never get to have a conversation with them. They deflect, project, spin, crazy-make etc. until you have no choice than to abandon the conversation. You CANNOT win with a Narcissist!

@janetcrome5605

4 жыл бұрын

So true!

@cstevens8788

4 жыл бұрын

Yes ma'am. Drop them like a hot potato. 😁✌️

@bmbutler2

4 жыл бұрын

Very true. Best thing - don't engage and stay calm.

@jimneysweep9810

4 жыл бұрын

Can’t even meet them half way

@Itsme-jv4cd

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! That sure was my experience.

There are many different signs. These include spending time on phone that was not spent previously, withholding sex from you, withdrawing in communication with you, agitation or anger over Petty stuff or making up situations to get angry or agitated over, lying, being secretive in any way, randomly spending more time caring for and pampering oneself such as putting on makeup or wearing cologne or coloring hair etc. Any type of changed behavior that is not aimed at pleasing or benefiting your relationship. With all of that though, follow your gut. your gut is telling you that something isn't right and it's telling you that this could or is happening, therefore listen to it. Just Free yourself from all of it! Run and don't look back. Go 100% no contact. The mental and emotional abuse is not okay at all! Do not bring anything up to her. Don't try to rationalize or have a conversation about anything. Don't let her know that you know she's in narcissist. All of that can cause a narcissistic rage. If you have not yet witnessed one of those just trust me that you don't want to! A narcissistic rage is beyond any rage I have ever seen or witnessed in my entire life. I am an army combat veteran and served front lines for a year and afghanistan. I have abuse going back from as long as I can remember, the first time in my personal memory is 2 years old. With everything I have been involved in, and my rape, other sexual abuse, their physical abuse, etc in narcissistic rage is by far the worst! If you need to contact your local police department and start a new contact order. No one can protect you like you can! free yourself from it all and move forward in your life. The minute you run and go no contact is the minute your life begins again. If need be seek out professional help. Therapy is the best thing I did for myself. The best gift I gave to me! The abuse is so deep and overwhelming that having a professional guide you through the steps of the healing process is extremely beneficial! Just remember, there is great strength in asking for help. There is great lack and strength or no strength at all in putting on a mask and hiding behind the opinions of society and pretending that you are okay! As human beings we all witness A Time In our lives where we are not okay! Those that heal, move past, and move forward, and have a brighter future are those who ask for help and do the work that is needed through the help! I'm so sorry you are going through this and I wish you the very best! Good luck! Always remember that you are stronger than you believe you are, you are worthy and deserving of better and always, and you are enough just the way you are and who you are today! Take this time for you! Get yourself again. Fix that meal that you're all time favorite, rent that movie you've been wanting to see, have a guys night out with your best friends, remodel a room in your home, go purchase that item you've been wanting to for so long, just do for yourself! Self-acceptance, self-love, and being able to forgive yourself is far more important than what anyone else can give to you! Believe in who you are! You deserve nothing less than that! You're not alone! Feel free to tag me in any other questions that you have! I'll help if I can. Additionally you can hire a cyber expert to help you get remote access to their phone so you can track them and monitor all of their activities without them knowing. You may locate the top cyber specialists locally at Digitalinvestigate@gmail. com, where you can engage a well-trained professional to assist you..........

@bargainbeauty7529

2 ай бұрын

Someone I know been traumatized & these systhoms are in line w/the abuser's behavior. The him she got isn't whom she met look wise & behavior-he cut his hair & put a earring in his ear. His personality is aggressive, controlling, manipulative, indecisive, etc he forced himself on her, busted 3 nuts off her (1 condom 2 raw) got her a plan b, blocked her out of no where, she called him from different # he started acting like he told her he didn't want to be bothered, he gave her number out-she started receiving insulting txt messages, he called her the next day & told her to stop contacting him.. He's gonna get a restraining order.. Brought up her job as a threat tactic & everything.. Remind u.. She deleted his number 9 months ago & moved on because he wasn't communicating effectively after he pursued her. But, 9 months later he reach out & do her like this!!

@bargainbeauty7529

2 ай бұрын

What do y'all witness in the military-army? He's a double blinker, sleep w/a gun at the pillow, communicate poorly, doesn't moan during sex, doesn't exude emotion or indication of ejaculation...8

I'm currently going through this and I'm the one looking crazy. I'm the one lashing out, because I'm not being heard..and I'm getting really tired of talking and begging for change.

They can be sensitive ,but not you

@joseenoel8093

4 жыл бұрын

🏆

@gayleshelton3630

4 жыл бұрын

Rite on

@bethmoore7722

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, yes. Men I’ve been involved with were always very sensitive to my tone, but snapped at me and yelled at me and got angry if I cried. I’m with a man who has tried that, but stopped when I called him on it. I think this is because of the pressure men are under themselves with harsh and unrealistic expectations of them. But, bless their hearts, they don’t get to take it out on us.

@specialtwice4975

4 жыл бұрын

LanaDelSlay Yonce Exactly. My ex would always say "I'm feeling needy right now so I need attention plzzzzzzzzzzzzz baby." or "You don't understand, I had an AWFUL day today. My boss was horrible to me at work. So I need you to do..." And then when you have a bad day or feel a little needy they say "Gosh, you are so sensitive right now, grow up. You don't need to act so childish." or "You look like a pathetic baby right now, you know that right? What are u, 5? I don't need to give you attention right now. I'm busy."

@uchithahettiarachchi8304

4 жыл бұрын

So freaKING TRUE!

Gaslighting is SO DAMAGING! I have spent the past few months healing and I cant believe how much of my trauma has been linked to "just" gaslighting!!!! (Follow my journey on my channel! 😊)

@craig3714

4 жыл бұрын

Fly Girl Bri I can agree it is very damaging .

@stacielivinthedream8510

4 жыл бұрын

Oh it's HUGE!!!! It has happened to me a lot and it's extremely damaging!!! I'm still not over it and it's been a while!!!!

@bugsea54

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@d.l831

3 жыл бұрын

Christopher Lee This is the truth!! At first I thought it was just between me and this individual. But I realized that this was a spiritual attack. I began to fall away from God, and it only got worse the closer to God I became. Especially this time around. (Yes this is the second time with the same individual. Mind you I gave us nearly half a decade before I decided to try to rectify the situation and close some old wounds. I did not go back to initiate another relationship. But these people are very good at manipulating and I ended up pregnant. But I’ve left.) I recently started getting back into my relationship with God and reading the Bible on a regular basis. The individual got worse. The individual did not know that I was getting closer with God and reading the Bible but he got substantially worse very fast and I noticed the spiritual pull and battle happening within him. I ran away from him and ran right back to God. Everything will turn out OK in the end. It’s stressful now and scary but God will protect me and this little one. Especially my little one❤️

@mithu2cool

3 жыл бұрын

I know... Its very traumatic.. Don't worry!

Anytime I spend time around them, I end up feeling like something is wrong with me… like I’m weird, or going crazy, or disliked… it’s very isolating and unsettling. My anxiety levels shoot up and I feel like I am unlikable. I feel an undercurrent of tension and rejection and contempt that I can’t explain. Like I have done something very wrong, but can never pin down what. I also end up talking too much or sharing too much, then worrying that somehow, my words will be used against me in the future. It’s happened before. I’m blamed for things I don’t think or feel. It’s exhausting and rips into my already fragile self-esteem.

@user-rx4zr3dp4j

3 ай бұрын

Sweetie, it’s not You! You did nothing wrong. It’s them! Think more happy positive thoughts about yourself; appreciate and love You! Believe in You!!! I had people around me do this and it made me feel insecure, indifferent because I thought it was me. I had a mother beat and abuse me and thought this is wrong; what is wrong with her? Finally I made it upon myself instead to pray for her or these people. Then, made the decision to put myself last and others above/ before me. Follow your heart; your good judgement and your good instincts and insight. Do something that makes you happy in life. Live your life in peace comfort solitude. Joy. It’s simplicity. You are loved! God love and bless You! I fully understand. Lay it at the foot of the cross. You are great!😇❤️🙏⭐️

@godzillamanstreb524

2 ай бұрын

I feel so slimed after interacting with npd sister….its really visceral

@bockskarr6626

9 күн бұрын

You described my interactions with my mother exactly. 3 weeks ago she told me the truth or semi truth to this huge lie system to keep me in the USA. It literally broke me and started destroying my life I built in recovery for almost 10 years. I knew something was up but why would I ever think my mother was leading me astray. It's rough. She's been squirming in her narcissism trying to regain control and shit and I just don't wanna talk to her anymore or even know her after all this. How ya say ya love me?

@NazriB

2 күн бұрын

Lies again? Grab Plex Gas Petrol

@user-yb5ub4qv7w

Күн бұрын

I can relate to this so much!

I wish I have had someone telling me all this before I got married. My husband of 25 years used to behave like a dictator and all the red flags were there. Emotional abuse is a serious problem in a relationship. From emotional abuse, cheating started.Thank you *Coherent Recovery* for posting this time to get me all the evidence.

@DatriellHarris

Жыл бұрын

I used to think checking your partner's phone was an invasion of their privacy but then I thought about it again. How can you give someone access to your private body but phones are off limits? At the time my ex was acting funny so *Coherent recovery* got me full access to sms, video calls, social media accounts without any trace back to me or getting detected at all and all I can say is it changed my life for good.

@jpayne7438

Жыл бұрын

My daughter is now in that age where we really need to start giving her more attention, specially with so many dangers on the internet. Recommendations about *Coherent Recovery* has been extremely helpful. I got the access swiftly without any interruption and it was done undetectably , thanks 🙏🙏

@ginajuliet400

Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work Jack on *Coherent Recovery* . You're truly a genius. Got me access into my Boyfriend's phone in just few moments, without her been notified or even getting to Find out. This is the best cyber skills outhea😳😲

@vababy45

10 ай бұрын

I tried to tell someone that emotional abuse is just as bad. Thank you for having the same opinion.

@mikelikesit2122

9 ай бұрын

You still don't cheat on somebody, you end the relationship and walk away... 😑 I believe what you're saying about your ex-husband but what you did was wrong as well.

I hate when someone says "I'm sorry you feel that way" instead of sincerely apologizing for doing something wrong.

@sidney2900

3 жыл бұрын

Bennett from the bachelorette 🧐

@michaeldelyjah5696

3 жыл бұрын

That's assuming they did something wrong that they need to apologize about. If you held the weird belief that women are inferior to men and that women voting has ruined this country and I respond, "I'm sorry you feel that way." You see how it wouldn't have been appropriate for me to apologize?

@nataliaturner4845

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldelyjah5696 Good example. I think it's often a good way to respond to a narcissist too, given how they play victim & try to gaslight/guilt trip you over nothing.

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

From my experience, a gaslighter NEVER apologizes simply because that would mean (1) admitting to themselves that they gaslight, and (2) feeling true remorse and shame for their actions. What the gaslighter does instead is simply wait for you, the emotionally healthy person--the peacemaker--to apologize first (for something YOU did NOT do), which then gives the gaslighter "proof" that it WAS YOUR fault all along, just as they had thought. This form of emotional and mental manipulation is so corrupt and insidious that it can drive a sane person crazy. DON'T LET THIS DRIVE YOU CRAZY! :-)

@brendab.5111

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHorSTFU They do that lots at work to. Bad manager ‘s cover their butts by writing up good workers that make them feel insecure.

My mom's boyfriend had me in a chokehold up against the wall and my feet were not touching the floor and I couldn't breath. My mom and sister had to pull him off of me and we all fell to the floor. Not 10 mins later my malignant narcissistic mother told me that her boyfriend was more a part of her family then I would ever be (mind you I'm adopted). Ever since than my malignant narcissistic mom swore that event never happened and I was making up the whole thing up. I disowned her because of that and went no contact.

@aminaww3446

4 жыл бұрын

Heather Ferris what the hell. Sorry you had to go through that, disgusting.

@elizabethsantandergreene91

4 жыл бұрын

Heather Ferris, that's awful and I'm so sorry that happened to you. Congratulations though on being a strong enough person to liberate yourself from a very destructive relationship.

@TheBakingGirlShow

4 жыл бұрын

Wow take a stand girl! No need for toxic ppl

@alicegharibjanians1449

3 жыл бұрын

Good for you. She wasn’t meant to be a mom. We have one in my husband’s family, very similar.i do t think that even as a 36 years old adopted adult child she has awareness of what has happened...

@geraldfriend256

3 жыл бұрын

No other sane choice.

The person denying your experience doesn't even have to say anything in words, they can say it in expressions, inappropriate laughter when you express your feeling, any way that negates you. I just realised this is what someone has been doing to me.

Trying to have an adult conversation with a narcissist is like beating your head into a brick wall

@toniwilson8212

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@toniwilson8212

2 жыл бұрын

Fact

@joesschmoe843

2 жыл бұрын

Death by a thousand bricks

I played this in front my narcissistic parents and they started yelling at me haha

@vodanh3643

3 жыл бұрын

Are you ok now?

@emilyaitch8143

3 жыл бұрын

still alive? I hope lol

@titusbarnes8306

3 жыл бұрын

Damn son that hit hard as my dad's hand

@11071874

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Sounds exactly like the reaction I would get from mine. Just wow!

@Yungmills

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and when you start you bringing up the examples of their behavior, that’s when they start fuming😂

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your videos are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps*

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

Search *Future imperative corps* to chat with Brandon about spying/tracking your target using their help.

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

*Don’t search them on KZread, search only on google to see their platform to make your request*

@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

@carolnahigian9518

11 ай бұрын

gas lighters( sibling & creepy Cousin) both had fun terrorizing ME- then called 15++ relatives,"carol is ignoring Us"! ( after 60 years of liars I am DONE).

There is one red flag when you’re dealing with a narcissist, when you tell him your opinion, and he starts judging you by telling how wrong you are and then starts lecturing you. There is a huge difference between “I disagree” and “you are wrong, your opinion is wrong”. If you somehow got into conversation like that. Take a notice at this red flag.

There’s only one way to fight a narcissist effectively. With your hat. You grab it, wave goodbye with it as you run out the door and slam it shut behind you. And move on!

@kellyhardyman9509

2 жыл бұрын

You must be an Aquarian,that's what we do and that is the end of the fight.

@assyriaking

2 жыл бұрын

Yes And don’t fall for the Hoover it will just be to destroy you

@JAY-kw5qq

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂I just bust out laughing reading this comment but the truth

@mr.nibblenips4231

2 жыл бұрын

Ignore them works too

@grayhalf1854

2 жыл бұрын

The protocol is the same with any Cluster Bs. Don't look back.

Here are the narcissistic gaslighting hits: "I never said that." "I don't remember that." "You're overreacting." "It's not a big deal." "It's not that deep." "You always have a problem with me!" *starts using circular arguments

@rica2k5

2 жыл бұрын

the biggest hit for me is MOVE ON! hated those words

@alaaaaa4132

2 жыл бұрын

@@rica2k5 My worst is "I only want good for you" , "If all people see something do you still think you're right?"

@elipru9632

2 жыл бұрын

@@rica2k5 that's what we say to First Peoples in North America. Gaslighting on a huge scale.

@cn6340

2 жыл бұрын

Woah, I have heard every one of these from both my mother and brother. Awesome. I love my family.

@EyeLickChildren

2 жыл бұрын

"Its not that deep." It's as deep as it is. The issue is always larger than the immediate situation. All the factors that lead up to the altercation or problem, and the differences in perspective and understanding. There's nuance, and it matters. Granted, I get caught up in the nuance of everything, I care about the details everyone else thinks are inconsequential, but when someone is trying to address an aspect of a disagreement, and you tell them it's not that deep, you're telling them that their feelings on the matter don't matter. If you think it's not that deep, there's 2 immediate possibilities that come to my mind: you haven't considered it or I'm mistaken in some regard. If you haven't considered what I'm hung up on, that means we're not meeting each other at the same level on the issue. You're not hearing what I'm saying. I am behind dismissed. If I'm mistaken and you're just brushing it off without allowing us to get down to the facts of the matter, then we're just not going to resolve it, you're going to think I'm crazy and I'm still going to feel like I'm being dismissed with no consideration. It's as deep as as the deepest feeling in the situation. A miscommunication or misconception about the situation is a part of the situation and needs to be addressed. Refusal to address it in any more is just saying you don't consider the other person's perspective or understanding to be important. When it comes to gaslighting, that's exactly what it is, too. You're dismissing them to serve yourself, because their feelings aren't a part of your end game.

*Future Imperative Corps* used his cyber services as a therapy session, taking us through a very chaotic mind and leaving us with a sense of peace and resolution at the end. He used this album as a way to document the breaking of generational curses that have kept his family toxic for so long while also giving the culture permission so that we can start breaking our own generational curses even if it means using him as the means to do so.

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

Search *Future imperative corps* to chat with Brandon about spying/tracking your target using their help.

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

*Don’t search them on KZread, search only on google to see their platform to make your request*

@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

@carloswilson7505

Жыл бұрын

The consistency and quality spy services and content of *future imperative corps* never disappoints! Thanks once again *future imperative corps💯💯*

Saying “thank you” is not enough to show my gratitude to you *Coherent Recovery* . It’s my honor to work under your guidance. Thank you for everything. Under your guidance, everything seems so easy. I truly appreciate your effort and advice that you give to us. You are a great support for us. All your hard work and dedication have paid off. You are an inspiration to other Expertise like you. Thanks for your great job. I’m proud of you getting access to my spouse phone! Thanks💯

@DatriellHarris

Жыл бұрын

I used to think checking your partner's phone was an invasion of their privacy but then I thought about it again. How can you give someone access to your private body but phones are off limits? At the time my ex was acting funny so *Coherent recovery* got me full access to sms, video calls, social media accounts without any trace back to me or getting detected at all and all I can say is it changed my life for good.

@jpayne7438

Жыл бұрын

My daughter is now in that age where we really need to start giving her more attention, specially with so many dangers on the internet. Recommendations about *Coherent Recovery* has been extremely helpful. I got the access swiftly without any interruption and it was done undetectably , thanks 🙏🙏

@ginajuliet400

Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work Jack on *Coherent Recovery* . You're truly a genius. Got me access into my Boyfriend's phone in just few moments, without her been notified or even getting to Find out. This is the best cyber skills outhea😳😲

*”I don’t know why you are taking this so personally!”* ...continues to personally insult and minimize you.

@jenlans

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao funny but sad and true.

@professordogwood8985

3 жыл бұрын

I hate it when they tell you at work, "don't take it personally" when they're essentially critiquing your personality.

@ris7ahs907

3 жыл бұрын

exactly, thats the exact line they say

@101lovr

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly insulting you and then saying "Can't you take a joke?" Give me a break!

I suffered the classical signs as dr ramani says ,wanting to record,wanting a witness to be present, confusion,selfdoubt and second guessing,almost became insane.

@ha8236

4 жыл бұрын

Know that feeling all too well.

@Rain9Quinn

4 жыл бұрын

Shafaq Ali so sorry for you, & i know how awful that feels! 😢

@blushface

4 жыл бұрын

my witness doesn't give two shits haha. :|

@aprilchow-chee5281

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@ncbeachbumintx

3 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Honestly, just owning it and not trying to hide it is a partially why I watch you. It's the honorable thing to do and it make the rest of jobs much more believe when you are call out of the spots like that, so thank you *Coherent Recovery* for making me see target phone activities

@DatriellHarris

Жыл бұрын

I used to think checking your partner's phone was an invasion of their privacy but then I thought about it again. How can you give someone access to your private body but phones are off limits? At the time my ex was acting funny so *Coherent recovery* got me full access to sms, video calls, social media accounts without any trace back to me or getting detected at all and all I can say is it changed my life for good.

@jpayne7438

Жыл бұрын

My daughter is now in that age where we really need to start giving her more attention, specially with so many dangers on the internet. Recommendations about *Coherent Recovery* has been extremely helpful. I got the access swiftly without any interruption and it was done undetectably , thanks 🙏🙏

@ginajuliet400

Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work Jack on *Coherent Recovery* . You're truly a genius. Got me access into my Boyfriend's phone in just few moments, without her been notified or even getting to Find out. This is the best cyber skills outhea😳😲

@corysmith3447

8 ай бұрын

yea thats psychoathic and narccisstic like all the studies according to sage jounrals show so called "empaths" actually are (ps psychpath gaslight not narccists, shows you the credibility of your idols) @@DatriellHarris

@bellona6356

7 ай бұрын

What is this spammy bullshit

First of all. Thank you for making the work environment so friendly and taking your responsibility seriously and completing the work gracefully! You deserve so much. He does what he says he is going to do and his ethics are of the highest quality. *Future imperative corps*

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

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@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

@markanthony.01269

Жыл бұрын

Finally I have access to my spouse device and I can remotely monitor all her phone activities without her even knowing anything and it's been 3 months🥲😪 , she cheated and left me no choice I'm glad I found *Future imperative corps* who made all these possible, thanks for keeping to the non-disclosure agreement and for getting it done

@carloswilson7505

Жыл бұрын

The consistency and quality spy services and content of *future imperative corps* never disappoints! Thanks once again *future imperative corps💯💯*

Most interesting part of this is how *Coherent Recovery* were pushing and encouraging both teams along, trying to get the best performance out of everyone there. It's that kind of teamwork and support that helps them to achieve the amazing spying results.

@Renzelgivennns

Жыл бұрын

KZread don’t allow links. Just look up their name and connect to their website. Look their name up on google only so you get to see their website.

@jpayne7438

Жыл бұрын

My daughter is now in that age where we really need to start giving her more attention, specially with so many dangers on the internet. Recommendations about *Coherent Recovery* has been extremely helpful. I got the access swiftly without any interruption and it was done undetectably , thanks 🙏🙏

@ginajuliet400

Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work Jack on *Coherent Recovery* . You're truly a genius. Got me access into my Boyfriend's phone in just few moments, without her been notified or even getting to Find out. This is the best cyber skills outhea😳😲

gaslighting is so damaging. The good thing is once you learn what it is, you can heal, validate your reality and move on. DO the work to raise your self worth, that is where the magic is.

@u311165

4 жыл бұрын

Elle D for me , eft ( tapping works) , self hypnosis, inner child work all of the above and heaps more self help/healing tools available . Go easy on One Self, compassion and patience is helpful also . 🙏

@whyohwhy9679

3 жыл бұрын

@Elle D It helps me to journal every day. Life with a narcissist is so tangled up it takes a while just to clear your head. Also, just appreciating the fact that they are no longer around. My mind is still spinning but at least it's not being actively filled with BS by the narc everyday. I watched lots of Dr. Les Carter videos. He's down to earth and very calming. Sam Vaknin is an actual narcissist. His videos are helpful too. Quora has several groups with narcissist survivors.

@christinaduncan8285

3 жыл бұрын

@Elle D I have been thinking about this a LOT lately. Our lives are harried with meanness everywhere. Years ago I started doing yoga with precise breathing techniques for over an hour a day and within no time my focus pulled away from all the turmoil and I started understanding what it means to be "centered." What Kelly Kristin said is true. Once you become centered, it's easier to see what you have to do to "do the work" to raise your self worth. Everything starts falling into place.

@mariafarley7602

3 жыл бұрын

Kelly Kristin, Yes!

@TheKarenRob

3 жыл бұрын

yes! work, not magic

Re: the email. They’ll either refute it or ignore it completely and give you the silent treatment. I’m celebrating 8 months narcissist free ❤️

@moreofawave

4 жыл бұрын

Good for you!

@geraldfriend256

3 жыл бұрын

Hooray

@Stitcher1964

3 жыл бұрын

Way to go!

@Traumatized1973

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations.. ...I'm on day 2.

@brookiebakerie

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. I sent my mom a letter 2 years ago - before realizing all her narc tendencies - and she ignored it for weeks. Then she called and acted like nothing had happened. She's brought it up since then and told me that I misunderstood her sense of humor because I was a child when she said certain things. There's always an excuse for EVERYTHING. What finally made me realize the truth was going on a 4 day trip with her. I didn't want to, but I was the only one of my siblings who could/would be with her for a major medical procedure she needed at an out of town hospital. (One of my brothers even acknowledged the sacrifice by thanking me for taking one for the team.) I realized how much she even manipulated her best friend of decades by refusing to answer her calls all day long when she answered everyone else. And there were SO many other things. I've hardly spoken with her since that trip and I can't say that I'm sad about that.

Brandon is a detailed oriented, customer focused, results driven individual who's goals are to deliver only high quality services to his customers. Thanks *Future Imperative Corps* I always knew you can deliver. You have what it takes.I can’t find the right words to appreciate your effort, i can now check the phone activities. I'm glad to work with someone like you

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

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@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

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@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

@markanthony.01269

Жыл бұрын

Finally I have access to my spouse device and I can remotely monitor all her phone activities without her even knowing anything and it's been 3 months🥲😪 , she cheated and left me no choice I'm glad I found *Future imperative corps* who made all these possible, thanks for keeping to the non-disclosure agreement and for getting it done

I have a mother just like this. Always undermining everything. Her way is perfect, and no one is allowed to question it. It's like a cult. Always gaslighting...

STRATEGIES OF THE GASLIGHTER: 1- BLAMING: "YOU'RE TOO SENSITIVE!" 2- DEFLECTION: "LOOK OVER THERE!" 3- DENIAL: "THAT NEVER HAPPENED!"

@rickmorales9867

3 жыл бұрын

Would you say they cheat?

@roonieh9619

3 жыл бұрын

@@rickmorales9867 always

@rickmorales9867

3 жыл бұрын

@@roonieh9619 would you say my love blinds me to much to believe she is to innocent as always to say I'm crazy I see things I hear things denying freinds when I clearly saw text and calls and saying I see everything she makes me feel like I'm going crazy.. saying they're only freinds never wanting to tell me what they text about? She always makes me feel guilty about everything? When I ask tell me the truth she deflects and never says anything always telling me my wrongs when I have said all my wrongs and tells them to me to make me feel bad. She says believe cause i tell you. Believe me cause it's TRUE when i know she is lying?

@ljanderson7532

3 жыл бұрын

Not always physically but mine does with porn.

@rosa61217

3 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe it, but I am truly living with a gaslighting roomate and I have made all of the mistakes mentioned here and realized how they didn't get me anywhere

Another thing a narcissist will do is to accuse someone of not being over something when in fact it was never resolved. For example, they emotionally abused you a few months ago and try to accuse you of the offense. Nothing was ever resolved a few months ago, but when you try to bring up the offense in order to salvage the relationship, they will accuse you of being bitter, angry, unforgiving and say "oh my god, you're still hanging on to that"! That's a sign to move on and forget about trying to resolve anything with them. What they are really trying to do is avoid dealing with their own emotionally abusive methods in interpersonal relationships. To verify it's not you, just watch how they relate to others because they simply cannot help themselves.

@denise9831

2 жыл бұрын

We had a very lumpy carpet from just about everything being swept under it. “Sweep it under the carpet” for those that don’t know, is a way of saying nothing gets resolved. Deny that it exists.

@kusumlata1390

2 жыл бұрын

@@denise9831 Omg! I always used to use this same phrase, "Keep sweeping it under the carpet, but one day there will be a big lump that you won't able to ignore and it will be an eye sore." Guess what? He could ignore that Lump as well and gaslighted me more and more to hide it.

@denise9831

2 жыл бұрын

@@kusumlata1390 hope you’re ok and in recovery from him. It’s taken a considerable amount of time to work through all the gaslighting and emotional abuse in therapy. Hugs.

@kusumlata1390

2 жыл бұрын

@@denise9831 I am in therapy and on anti-depressants. It's night time here in India, I will perform the daily ritual before I sleep; cry my heart out with my face stuffed in the pillow. Let it all out- everything I keep inside throughout the day. It's like a release, and then sleep. I am doing my best, I have to get okay and I think I will. :) Thanks. Hugs to you too.

@denise9831

2 жыл бұрын

@@kusumlata1390 wishing you love and forgiveness of yourself and the narcissist. They really are here to help us learn the lessons we need to learn. Once I accepted this, I found healing easier. Go well. X

It’s kind of contradictory to say that a narcissist ex admitted that to gaslighting. One of the behavior patterns of a narcissist is that they won’t admit fault on their own, and that they use gaslighting to convince you that they were never at fault. I can tell you what behavior of my narcissist ex led me to believe that I was being gaslighted though. Gaslighting is a real insidious way of manipulation- to make you believe that there is something wrong with you, that the actions/words of your narcissist weren’t really what they seemed to be. It makes you question your judgement, leading to you ignoring your instincts and senses. I swallowed all of her gaslighting for years, mostly because I wanted the relationship to work- like most people who have been the partner of a narcissist. I started realizing that something was wrong 6 months before I was discarded. It was actually this revelation that I had that led to the discard- once I started seeing through the illusion that she presented, I started to see all of her actions for what they really were, and I started to question her on everything and stood my ground on issues that I previously gave in on. We had gotten into a really bad argument. Tensions between us had been building for a few months. We had to move from our rental and find a new place to live within 2 months, in a town that was going through a surge in prices for rental properties. It was difficult finding a place to live that was within our budget, and still live in the town that had come to be our community. Between that and all of the normal logistics in moving cause a lot of minor arguments and stress between us- more than what was normal with her narcissistic and selfish behavior. We found a place, moved in and was in the process of bringing the final things over from the old place to the new place and cleaning the old place when we had gotten into an argument about something minor. All of the pent up tensions and resentment came out. During the argument, she was dismissive to me and told me that everything was my fault and if I didn’t like it then I could pack my shit and leave. I was so frustrated that I knocked her external computer monitor down (so she would face me and not continue to argue with her back turned to me). She got up and in my face and told me that I probably wanted to hit her. I said that I didn’t, I just wanted to discuss the issues. She said that if I wasn’t man enough to hit her she would give herself a black eye and call the police on me. I turned and left the room, because I knew the argument was escalating to a place that I didn’t;t want it to go. As I turned to leave the room, she jumped on me and started punching me. I told her if she was going to hit me, I would call the police. She started punching me again, so I left the room, went to the master bathroom and called the police. They came, interviewed both of us and arrested her for spousal battery. Afterwards she only blamed me for the incident and never, never acknowledged that she hit me. A week or so later, she asked me to write a letter to the DA requesting that the charges be dropped. I said that I would write a letter but that she would have to acknowledge her actions and to apologize to me first. She said that she was sorry that I felt that way. I told her that I wouldn’t write anything to the DA, and she stormed off, giving me the silent treatment for a couple of days. I knew what happened, and have a very clear recollection of the events. I’ve been punched before with closed fists, and I know what it feels like- and it doesn’t feel like a “shove”, what she insisted was what she did (her story was that she shoved me only after I shoved her, which was nonsense). I got a copy of the police report, and one of several reasons that they arrested her is because they found her knuckles red and swollen. I tried to move through this, but she kept trying to change the narrative of what happened when I was very clear on what happened. I felt crazy, but knew that I wasn’t. This led me to question everything else that she told me. Once I started realizing that most things she told me (when it came to disagreements or things that I had an issue with) were lies, and I believed the illusion that she created to trick me. That’s what the narcissist does- they present an illusion to you. Just like looking at an optical illusion, once you see that it is a trick of the eyes, you can’t look at it again without seeing the trick. Once I started seeing through her illusions, the house of cards that she built started to fall down and I slowly started to realize the type of person that she was, even though I didn’t want to believe it. I started enforcing my boundaries and that drove her crazy and caused more fights and gaslighting, which is what I believe led to her finally discarding me 6 months after her arrest. She never admitted to gaslighting me though. Even after confronting her with things from years previous that I realized she changed to make me the one at fault, she stays with her story. Even with indisputable proof, she stays with her version of events and says everyone else is wrong. Don’t expect any type of satisfaction or closure from a narcissist, because you won’t get any. You have to believe your judgment and instinct, and not tie your self-worth and self-esteem to anything that they say to you. Additionally, If you ever suspect your partner is cheating on you give it a try and remotely access their phone. I had to follow my instincts and get in touch with this private investigator Metaspyhub@gmail. com who gave me unrestricted access my partner device.

@hg8431

Ай бұрын

To address your initial comment: that is true at first but sometimes a narcissist will admit to it because they might not think theres anything wrong with being a narcissist. Other times it is admitted to manipulate to say “hey you caught me doing these things, but I'm actually a changed man/woman despite my narcissism”. Also, if they believe they have you in a catch 22 box of fear that will keep you from attempting from leaving they are more candid about it because they don't have to fake anymore because you're definitely aware by this point. Especially if they have used weapons against you and your children and threats of extreme violence if you attempt to leave them. All while never actually seeing anything wrong with what they do. You always deserved it. They were justified. Your feelings were never valid and they don’t out any stock into them. My husband would constantly tell me that. He did all the above. So yea narcissists can definitely be aware and admit to it depending on different factors. Its all about manipulation and control and being superior

Can we all appreciate this guys for taking the time to help all of us and making our lives happy, cause these dudes never fail to put a smile on our faces, guys they deserve the best in life we'll all support them no matter what we all love you and I wanna Thank You So Much for being amazing! *Future Imperative Corps*

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

Search *Future imperative corps* to chat with Brandon about spying/tracking your target using their help.

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

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@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

Gaslighting is about keeping control of the narrative , and apologizing is about admitting losing control of oneself. Therefore, a gaslighter and/or narcissist will never admit they are wrong. Control is their primary objective.

@MaddaxxxE

2 жыл бұрын

@Kyra Ever

Deflection. Caught my ex living with another woman three weeks ago. He then brought up the fact we had a argument last summer.

@davideldred.campingwilder6481

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh, Jen. So funny. Please, I hope you are well.

@m.i.wellness9098

3 жыл бұрын

Wow now that is interesting.

@brendab.5111

3 жыл бұрын

Living with another woman? Oh hell no!

@brendab.5111

3 жыл бұрын

Was he saying that he’s justified in cheating because you hurt his tender feelings?

@goddessvibes08

3 жыл бұрын

Kuch him to the curb 🖕

Since going to therapy for 2 years, I've started speaking up for myself & holding my partner accountable. He now always accuses me of gaslighting him.

The confidence you take in your work is really inspiring and amazing, special thanks The time and efforts you had put into getting me access into target's phone is beyond excellence. Take my cordial thanks! *Future Imperative Corps* . You are really an efficient, organized and result-oriented man Thank you for all the extra hours and extra effort you had to put on for getting the access activated. I appreciate every bit of your effort. Thank you for pulling this off so smoothly...

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

Search *Future imperative corps* to chat with Brandon about spying/tracking your target using their help.

@erisskelton4832

Жыл бұрын

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@mwende.janeffer

Жыл бұрын

This *Future Imperative Corps* is an excellent-hacking website which continue to impress, I like the way spy, eavesdropping and tracking services are delivered. And it is refreshing to see all texts, whatsapp messages and calls source of others. Keep up the good work Brandon 👍

@kelvincarlson7358

Жыл бұрын

That feeling when your partner cheated and you don't have the courage to leave him or her so you just dealt with the pain and live everyday asking questions about your worth. This pain is different from the cheating one-- living and seeing him everyday anticipating when will he or she do it again. Your jobs are incredibly well done. No critique, thanks for doing this *Future Imperative Corps* ..

@markanthony.01269

Жыл бұрын

Finally I have access to my spouse device and I can remotely monitor all her phone activities without her even knowing anything and it's been 3 months🥲😪 , she cheated and left me no choice I'm glad I found *Future imperative corps* who made all these possible, thanks for keeping to the non-disclosure agreement and for getting it done

"You're too sensitive" that one was used on me in the past.

@joannculligan3612

3 жыл бұрын

I got that one a lot. I was only in 6 months but when I realized who I was dealing with I cut all ties and ran

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

Now I just reply to the narcissist gaslighter with: You are a heartless bully and lack empathy! Why do you insist on channeling trump?!

@_JL82

3 жыл бұрын

I hate when people know they're in the wrong , say " your too sensitive " like own up to your shit and knock off the bs 😒

@annchovey2089

3 жыл бұрын

"You're too sensitive" was the most common phrase my father used on me yet he was very sensitive and got angry easily.

@ZodoLeeka

3 жыл бұрын

@@annchovey2089 This is an example of projection. Your father was projecting his feelings onto you.

Love how the dog felt the owner being tensed and came to him and sat with him. Animals feel your energy and act accordingly

@aks-wf8ez

3 жыл бұрын

No, he stepped on the dog's tail. Watch it again.

@tessarix

3 жыл бұрын

Probably why I love dogs more than humans.

@lynnekells6163

3 жыл бұрын

Like what an assistance dog does.

@Tierachanel1991

3 жыл бұрын

@@aks-wf8ez that did happen but it obeyed him when he tapped the chair and allowed him to pet a massage him. Massaging the pet is like a source of comfort.

Yes, deflection has been the favorite tool of narcissistic father. “That didn’t happen” has also been a favorite… you CANNOT win. I’ve experienced every single thing Dr. Ramani talks about here. Finally deciding to go Grey Rock…

@chaytonhurlow840

9 ай бұрын

You can win, just recognize the you are already victorious. While they are conniving uncontrollably on petty and meaningless things, you are viewing the eternal and universally meaningful things, such as love and understanding.

One of the worse forms of gaslighting is when a person says “I’m a good person” and keeps neglecting your needs even though you tell them 100 times what your needs are. This manipulative tactic is so subtle that makes you doubt your needs and doubt your reality. I wonder is anyone here has ever experienced this?

@paulinelittbrand673

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@elizabethtijerina5861

2 ай бұрын

Yes

@hg8431

Ай бұрын

After 10 years and lots of abuse I told my spouse I was giving up hope he would ever change. He replied,” but you can’t give up on me now, or I’ll never become the man I’m meant to be.”….For those who don’t understand the context Meaning: you have to stay with me abusing you and over time I’ll stop abusing you as long as you keep believing in me…instead of actually stopping abusing me right then…….as if its on me and not him that he doesn't abuse me anymore…

Getting resolution with a narcissist is impossible and a waste of time and energy.

@Ikaros23

4 жыл бұрын

The important thing is to not get crazy trying to " prove" the real world to the crazy/narcissistic/gaslighter. They manipulate by playing stupid/naiv and make you doubt your mental health. My best tip is run!.

@chaseback5102

3 жыл бұрын

I was constantly told.. “You should have been Lawyer” I was always like what??

@dannymeyer3256

3 жыл бұрын

Yes so needed to hear this really cleared things up especially him making me doubt my mental health. That sure rings true.

@GoddoDoggo

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaseback5102 Holy crap, my parents say that ALL the time, ever since I was a kid, and it always pissed me off, and I never got it. Now I get it. Ugh.

@jengable4888

3 жыл бұрын

They will NEVER change, and if they say they will, it is a lie and the change (whatever it is) is only for a fleeting moment, to suck you back in. It is so evil...

I'm finding having the dog in these videos quite therapeutic (especially in light of the triggering/difficult subjects).

@thiefonthecross7552

2 жыл бұрын

Same! So calming.

@blackweavesmatted6241

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful animal. I'd love a dog like that.

@petyreyvind9963

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, same. And I love dogs, she reminds me of my dog.

@nykka3

2 жыл бұрын

@@thiefonthecross7552 you you can come come apaaaa Mynthy

@Simon0

2 жыл бұрын

The dog is not bothered at all!! 🐕

What Dr. R is explaining has literally been my relationship with my family. They put me through hell and than when I tried to tell them they hurt me they would shut me down by shaming me with comments like, it’s all about you! Or we don’t want your drama.

5:11 I made the mistake of doing this. I had recordings of him twisting my words, and making me think I didn’t remember what I said a few seconds ago. It’s so true. I played back the recording for him, where he directly lied to me, and he responded with, “See? You’re the manipulative one for even recording me. You feel like you can’t talk to me without recording me? YOU’RE the one that has trust issues, then, so this argument is all on you.”

@rewildrevolution

5 ай бұрын

Now, if somebody is gaslighting me and telling me "I have trust issues" - I see it as them telling me quite literally, "I have trust issues with THEM - because they are not trustworthy"

I experienced this with my biological mother, foster mother and adoptive mother...I'm still standing and know my worth. Survivor...never a victim.

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

They would LOVE for YOU to apologize to THEM. For your own sanity, don't ever do that.

@elizabethk3238

3 жыл бұрын

You seem to be the Common Denominator...?

@brettleonard8602

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, all females. Why am i not surprised.

@hi-kt8jj

3 жыл бұрын

@@brettleonard8602 maybe because it mostly happens to females? also it doesn't only happen to females it also happens to many males!

@hi-kt8jj

3 жыл бұрын

@David Dennis huh?

"End the conversation, because you're going nowhere"... SO TRUE! It's just a waste of time!!

@professordogwood8985

3 жыл бұрын

I've tried to end the conversation before, unfortunately they accused me of telling them off.

@alukuhito

3 жыл бұрын

Except when the person is your spouse, and one of the biggest problems is that they don't communicate...

@lettheworldburn2998

2 жыл бұрын

Life is nothing but a waste of time anyways.

@assyriaking

2 жыл бұрын

Yup!!! 😂😂 I called my ex out on something then he had a tantrum flipped the script said “I’m tired of your accusations there’s no proof” I was like I do have proof b**** then he’s like that’s a lie your crazy “see you always argue” like DUDDE these people are f**** draining!

I was gaslighted by someone I trusted more than anything. And I got told I was the wrong one. I can't stop feeling horrible about it.

@laurarobinson917

Жыл бұрын

❤❤sending love ❤️ ❤

@paulinelittbrand673

5 ай бұрын

Me to

but then if you stop the conversation, as suggested, you just hear "oh... so, what, now you're just going to walk away ..." : the 4th stage of gaslighting!

@Sharmichelle3

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! My ex boyfriend would tell me this. It was true though. I would walk away especially when he wasn't listening.

@jaygraycray

2 жыл бұрын

Currently here with a miss

@thatwaslithe3849

2 жыл бұрын

Or they will say, "don't you dare walk away from me!" what do you want me to do, dance in front of you?

@johncorson6599

2 жыл бұрын

Oy vey true. If my emotions or concerns discussed by me get turned around or deflected into “you don’t care” ‘conversation’, I’d want to stop discussing it and just put it down for a few days or a week (the conversation). Doing that would be the source for the next argument later on. Got to the point where I just couldn’t sustain trying to be understood and see genuine empathy or validation of any sort but I’ve had strong boundaries and I could feel them trying to be broken. It is very uncomfortable. The latest was I had been blasted with insults from her girlfriends which not a single one of them I ever met in the 16 months of dating when I was smeared by my “ever loving girlfriend” to her friends while drinking somewhere and I was travelling to visit my brother 9 hours away .. she doesn’t get that I feel totally disrespected and humiliated by her smear campaign by ppl I don’t even know or even met .. my mistake was in retrospect was I should have ended it right then and there .. funny thing is I have not thought she is a narcissist at all as I was once with a covert malignant narc who was really awful (but incredibly covert and intelligent) .. at this point I just don’t know what to think and want to forget it all and just move on and heal .. I thought I knew how to identify normal ppl by now,

@TypeOneg

2 жыл бұрын

"Yup. Conversation is over ."

My ex-husband is a covert narcissist. His way of gaslighting me was to push my buttons. Usually he would do it in a room full of people. He knew what to say to piss me off. So he would sit beside me with his arm around me with a smile on his face and whisper things that he knew would instantly make me mad. So then I would snap and then he would jump away and act the victim. Saying see what I put up with everyday. She is so mean. I would get upset and leave. As I would leave I would look back at him and he would be smirking. He also cheated on me with anything and everything. The man worked as a jailer at a sheriff's department and he decides to have sex with a woman who was in jail for murder. It was on video of course. Yet he tried to deny it. She accused him of rape to try to get out of jail. Again video. Anyway when he had to confess to me what happened he brought his sister and the sheriff to tell me and told them he was afraid of me. Laughable! Then has the nerve to blame what he did on me. I fell for it. I stayed. He always told me I was ugly and fat and nobody would want me anytime I tried to take the kids and leave. I did escape that relationship. Moved on been married to my best friend for 20 years now. My ex had no choice but to let me go. My current husband gave him no choice. I carried a lot of emotional baggage with me into my current relationship. Thankfully my husband is an understanding loving person. Hope this helps someone.

@cherylkelly8009

3 жыл бұрын

I had a similar experience - Intentional pushing buttons until I get upset and then play victim

@saraw8490

3 жыл бұрын

There is an additional term for this scenario, reactive abuse. It's a fairly common tactic where the narc will intentionally provoke a reaction, and once you do react, they shift to a totally calm demeanor, "see? I'm completely calm, and you're being crazy!" They usually record it or do it in front of others, to paint their partner as the bad guy. A nice combination of gas lighting and smear campaigning.

@sarandipityinthestarssarah4076

3 жыл бұрын

OMG this exactly what my bf dose. Most times I don't say anything I just get embarrassed and leave the room. He also tells me nobody will want me and nobody will love me really.

@truthunderfire2193

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarandipityinthestarssarah4076 Trust me when I say that as soon as this person is totally out of your life and you move on....the sun will shine again! After years of abuse and several narcissistic relationships...i stopped allowing people to treat me crappy.. Finally married a functional human being which I never thought was possible. They all act as if no one will want you but them...such a terrible lie to control you. No more covering for bad behavior...no more fearful nights wondering how I can fix it or smooth it over...no more drama!

@wayneelliott1180

3 жыл бұрын

Mary - that is an horrific story! I was feeling outrage just reading it. I'm sure many would be able to equate to what you endured at that monster's hands. It's interesting to note that narcissists will often seek employment where they can have control over others - military, police, prison guards as in your case - even as psychiatrists etc. Glad you found your freedom.

I was a victim of gaslighting family and separated now and divorcing the man I was married to very soon. The whole family let me down emotionally and tried to prove me as a crazy person..

This is so spot on. I want to point out that not all people who gaslight are narcissists. Some are just using it as a defense mechanism and have not learned or matured enough to try a healthier way. Most people can and will change. That's the biggest difference.

1. When another person denies your emotions. They will make you doubt your feelings. 2. They deflect your concerns. 3. They deny what actually occurred. 4. Refuse to actually listen to you. Do not let then make you doubt yourself. People who do this lack empathy. If they minimize your concerns or feelings they are gaslighting you.

@hi-kt8jj

3 жыл бұрын

sheesh.. basically described the last 16 years of my life :D :/

@christinaclinton9168

3 жыл бұрын

@@hi-kt8jj Hi Aishwarya. I too have been in one for over 17 years. I however had had enough and went to the extent of moving out of the house so that I could even give myself a chance to restore myself to sanity. It worked like magic. I didn't know at that time I was a victim but I do know now n look back at my leaving as a way of detachment. I am how seeking professional help to help me understand the long term patterns that I have made in these past years and I'm sure I will find my true authentic self again. I just want you to know that you don't have to feel that this is what the rest of your life looks like....there is a way out n help is out there too.

@hi-kt8jj

3 жыл бұрын

@@christinaclinton9168 Hi Christina, thank you for responding! I only figured out several months ago that what I was (and still) going through was not normal. i'm planning on separating myself too once i am able to leave my house. I'm not allowed to go to therapy right now, probably because my parents don't want me talking about them to anyone. But i do plan on going to therapy at some point in the late future because I really cant get through everything that's happened in my past alone. I'm really glad you're taking control of your life again. I just don't know how i'll ever speak about my experiences with anyone, it's sounds terrifying.

@nix9650

3 жыл бұрын

This is so important to learn. And such a hard lesson as usually the narcissist will be someone who is close to you.

@tlj7749

3 жыл бұрын

@@hi-kt8jj I wasn’t happy in my relationship with my boyfriend and I had to ASK for attention and love. How sad is that? And when we were breaking up I said that I wasn’t happy. And he responded with, “my goodness it’s always about you. I didn’t think you were that selfish”. I don’t even know what to think about that. I can’t believe he said that. These are my emotions!!! How does this make me selfish??

The mere fact that I needed to record and take notes almost hourly was at last a sign that indeed I was being massively gaslighted.

@indraSilentMoonImaginarium

3 жыл бұрын

I hear you. I had to take a recording of my ex snoring because he told me he didn't snore. Even listening to the recording he didn't believe it. I began wondering who else was in the bed. :/ No hope at all in this situation.

@indraSilentMoonImaginarium

3 жыл бұрын

@David Koresh totally true, but I think a lot of people ( me included) have put up with more than they should have. Narc's suss out empaths a mile off and it seems we give them chance after chance. There is no logic to it what so ever which is very frustrating

@indraSilentMoonImaginarium

3 жыл бұрын

@David Koresh Words of wisdom. I will take that onboard for sure. Thnak you

@wingsaresilent

2 жыл бұрын

At one point I set the rule with my ex that all the future communication about the time with the kid, etc., would be in writing only. All too often his actions became something that had never existed, his words turned out to be never said and my reactions to what was going on - "too harsh", leaving me indeed very confused. With that "in writing only" rule and me dropping his calls (that still came because he was all about disrespecting the boundaries) our communication ceased to a bare minimum, I suppose, with no strings to pull and no emotions to evoke it did not spark joy for him anymore 😁

@-_-950

2 жыл бұрын

With all the gaslighting and his very convincing way of denying something or telling me his version of events, I started journaling and keeping a record so that I could be sure of what I remembered about what had actually happened (more for my own sanity than anything else). I am not generally a record keeper. Something happens, we resolve it or agree to disagree, I don't hold onto the details- this played into his form of gaslighting perfectly.

I cryed listening to every bit of your words doctor. I lived these scenarios for years and my empathy and the fact that I always thought I need to value my partner's opinion and always thinking I'm not 100% right which is what humans do. made me even more vulnerable .

My parents used to gaslight me. I recently learned that my sister may currently be gaslighting me too. In the case of my parents, the first and biggest example that comes to mind is from 2012. I had been taken off medication for the first time earlier that year and had significantly improved immediately. My parents refused to accept it and ultimately got me to take medication by saying I had already agreed to it. I knew I wouldn't have, but confidence in my memory was low enough to give them benefit of the doubt. That's a level of trust they have never given me. The medication in question made me suicidal and left me emotionally unstable and not as able to think clearly for years, even though I only took it for a few days. Within half a year, my parents were insisting that this medication didn't exist and that the problems it had caused were due to me being off medication for so long. It didn't help that the doctor that prescribed it didn't put it into my medical record. Other issues I've had with my parents include Mom claiming my grades in school were lower than they actually were and yelling at me for it or Dad trying to dictate what I was allowed to think and feel at any given moment. Dad would say things like "You're too logical to think this way," or "I think you're suffering." If I got upset at him pressuring me, he would say something along the lines of "Fine, punish me." My parents also have a history of making up misinformation about me. Claiming I'm not showering, claiming I'm not eating, etc. I'll admit that there have been points where I had issues with showering and eating, but I still did it a lot more than my parents and the various medical professionals gave me credit for. It took many years for my parents to acknowledge that I had debilitating stress from their behavior. All of the screaming, all of the abuse...it had a powerful impact on me. My parents suddenly stopped abusing me in 2015 and started genuinely trying to improve their relationship with me in 2017, shortly after I was put on my current medication. They still make up misinformation and they still refuse to accept that I can function without medication, but they at least acknowledge that they may have mistreated me in the past. They still refuse to get psychologically evaluated or to go to family therapy with me though... As for my sister, she has the habit of trying to invalidate any arguments I present when we disagree about something. First off, she has a rule of sorts where anything from over five years ago is too long ago to count. The thing is, this rule only seems to apply when it works in her favor. She uses things from over five years ago against me all the time. If it's within the past five years, something she does a lot is say that I have bad memory and am probably remembering it incorrectly. Granted, sometimes i am remembering it incorrectly, but there are also situations where I'm remembering it correctly and she refuses to acknowledge it. My sister admits to being a proponent of 'fake it 'til you make it' and seems to apply it to a lot of things, including our disagreements. There have been several points where she just comes up with an objectively wrong fact to use against me, such as when she said that blowing on my food doesn't actually cool it down, or that the previously mentioned medication couldn't have had such a strong effect on me after such a short period of time. She often invalidates other people's perspectives too. When my primary physician and two physical therapists (and a random experienced stranger in a Dunkin' Donuts) all agreed that my shoulder had been injured, my sister insisted that none of their perspectives counted because they weren't shoulder specialists. She and many others also asked questions such as "How do you know you're not imagining the pain?" On the other hand, when my parents finally took me to a back specialist who didn't know what he was doing to get my shoulder looked at and he said my shoulder was fine, my sister took his word for it because he was a specialist, even if he wasn't a shoulder specialist. Because it took so long for my shoulder to receive treatment, the injury got a lot worse. My parents and sister are still dismissive of it. My shoulder has been injured for over a decade. I also had a lot of people dismissing my scoliosis. I developed it in middle school and high school due to carrying a heavy backpack around. I could tell something was going wrong with my back, but didn't know what. I kept pointing it out year after year as it got worse and everyone I pointed it out to insisted that my back was supposed to be like that. My primary physician eventually noticed it many years later and I was properly diagnosed with scoliosis not long after. This became a bit of a vent. Sorry about that. I find that I need to vent about all that's happened a lot. This is far from the only abuse I've encountered...Lately it seems like I can't trust anyone. More and more misinformation pops up about me from my parents and various medical professionals. It doesn't help that my current medication is really messing with my head. It is important to note that I don't think that there is any malice behind anyone's actions. I believe that most of the people who have mistreated me, including my family, genuinely intended to help. They're just misguided about what would really help me and refuse to accept it when their actions cause harm. I get blamed for any problems that pop up. A lot of people see it as me not trying hard enough to "get better". This is unfortunately a part of the problem, as it means that the people mistreating me see it as them doing no wrong. it doesn't weigh on their consciences. The path to hell is paved with good intentions. I do have plenty of friends who support me, but they aren't really in a position to help. The validation is really nice though.

@ainhoasanchez03

9 ай бұрын

My godness, I relate so much with you!! Like, the medication, medical illnesses they don't recognize I/theh have, etc etc, and just everything. When I started making things by myself, I realizad everything. You're not alone :) cheers !

@Wilfoe

9 ай бұрын

@@ainhoasanchez03 Thanks for that message. :)

WOW, thank you for confirming my sanity and giving me the strength to finally move on

@pablitoperez9109

3 жыл бұрын

You’ll get through this Heather!!

@michaelmcglothlin6983

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@EarthsGeomancer

3 жыл бұрын

Combat the gasligher by gaslighting them.

@anitramoore9514

3 жыл бұрын

Run don’t walk! Mine left me for a social worker and she is about to get a PhD in dark personalities!!!!

@jiffyalls7182

3 жыл бұрын

What if they aren't compete sociopaths and on top of that they have the higher moral ground?

They love saying sweetly “sorry I don’t remember that happening “ 🤬

@tamilee9462

3 жыл бұрын

totally

@ryanlayman316

3 жыл бұрын

"Your crazy that never happened there's something wrong with you!!" Sound familiar

@ladytradersclub5916

3 жыл бұрын

Ha - YESSS! Or, "I am so sorry that YOU have a problem".

@Hawaiiansky11

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but they claim that conversations happened that didn't happen. "You agreed to lend me $2,500." Yah, no, I didn't. Pretty sure I'd have remembered that.

@ash2694

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanlayman316 Yesss, then you have a poker face like ..You are kidding me?. You tell them in respectful manner of the situation that's going on. And continue to say in 1, 2.."That's not true. How could you do this to me after all I helped you so much. Is this how you repay me. Ungrateful. Go away. Your the one who is crazy. I think your making up all this, are you alright? Want me to take you to a mental hospital so you feel better . She is absolutely crazy, guys let's calm her down". Me: Seriously 😕 👀 *completly chill* 😑😑 😶 but after that you just try to leave because the conversation isn't going anywhere practically accusing of stuff you didn't do and their trying to break my patience so ..ok bye🚦 🙋🏃🏃👣🏁✈

Has anyone who's been through severe gaslighting in an abusive relationship with a narcissist, ended up developing memory loss? Did any of you start having an unusual amount of deja vu?

@DiskoUnkle

Жыл бұрын

yea i think so but I think you recover with time.

@jsteve667

Жыл бұрын

@@DiskoUnkle Thanks for the reply. It's been really confusing for me.

@DiskoUnkle

Жыл бұрын

@@jsteve667 im recovering and the memories that were good of her are also being easily over written as the only good memories because of tbe support of friends and family. If you think you'll never find another like her then you're stuck in a loop. The fact is they'll most likely also not find anyone like you and hence wont ever be happy with anything. Your memories will hopefully come back by focusing on yourself. Which means.. Become the best version of yourself for you and you'll start to see more and more that if you were truthful then those memories will come back and stick with you unlike the narc who will try to block out everything and probably deny the good stuff too.

@Mairausch

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I have memory loss.

@jsteve667

Жыл бұрын

@@DiskoUnkle I find myself reading about and reliving it all. For months I have had a terrible time remembering things. I realise what had been going on for 2 years but it still feels hard to process it all. Took a long time to realise what she had been doing to me. And yes, it's hard also because deep down I still love her. But the discards were awful. One of those discards was whilst I was laid on the floor with. Serious broken leg and ankle that required 13 bolts and 2 plates. She left me there on the floor on Christmas day and ended the relationship. Could write pages and pages of this stuff. I hope in time I will fully recover.

recording conversations with my mother and realizing their strategies when they speak was the way I started thinking they might be narcissistic

I learned to just keep my mouth shut. So glad I finally managed to get away

@lousilipeniata7172

3 жыл бұрын

I m in it right now but just like you I keep my mouth shut!!

@gerger5670

3 жыл бұрын

You end up telling them NOTHING just easier

@spiritual2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@lousilipeniata7172 yep, cause ANY kind of communication with them falls on deaf ears. They may hear but not listen. It’s always about them

@lionheartministrys3933

3 жыл бұрын

Now I understand thanks

@myprtrump2207

3 жыл бұрын

How do I get away without help during this lockdown?

Anyone who calls you "too sensitive" is INsensitive. I'm glad you called this out.

@canttouchthis6439

2 жыл бұрын

Well actually a person can be to sensitive

@newworldastrology1102

2 жыл бұрын

@@canttouchthis6439 perhaps you are an insensitive person, then. Saying someone is ‘very’ sensitive is better, I feel. “Too” is a matter of opinion and comes off as more judgmental. I stand by what I said - and it seems I’m in the majority, according to the responses so far.

@canttouchthis6439

2 жыл бұрын

No. Look at will smith he was to sensitive about a mild joke and slapped chris rock. 100% a person can be to sensitive its a known fact

@canttouchthis6439

2 жыл бұрын

@@newworldastrology1102 your using a play on words when you say i should use the word "very" sensitive rather then "to" sensitive. Your ridiculous.

@newworldastrology1102

2 жыл бұрын

@@canttouchthis6439 for someone picking on words I think you mean “you’re” not “your”. This is a forum to build people up not come on to cause trouble. I’m sure others will agree. Thanks for stopping by to contribute though.

Something else you have to be ultra conscience of when talking to someone is making sure your not gaslighting them .

When I’ve just moved in with my husband we had this episode… he came home and silent-treated me for a while. I was super confused. I kept asking what was wrong. What have I done? What’s wrong with you? He gave me NOTHING but the cold shoulder and silence. I cried, then I started packing my stuff. It wasn’t a manipulation, I did it for real and he sensed the difference. Everything changed in a heartbeat. He became super soft, guilty and begging guy. He said that some stupid stuff (like my mug forgotten in a wrong place) maddened him. And that he had problems at work. I was furious like never before. I yelled at him and said he had just wasted the only chance in life to silent-treat me. That this cannot ever happen again, or I leave and never look back. He looked scared. He apologized over and over again. And he never did this again to me in 7 years. Now I know his mother did the same to him when he didn’t behave. It’s clearly his trauma speaking. He denies, she denies, but I know she did this to our son when he wasn’t a good enough boy. And there is other narcissistic fun stuff going on, not too severe, and I wonder, is this thing treatable, manageable, or tolerable at all? I know if I wouldn’t show him I was ready to go for good that moment 7 years ago, he would silent-treat me over every tiny detail.

Facial expressions can be used to gaslight, too. Eye-rolling and glaring, in my experience.

@Winry951

3 жыл бұрын

What about crying?

@brendab.5111

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe Schmo You funny Joe😂. Gas lighting (like in the movie “Gaslight”) is a diabolical scheme to deliberately set somebody up to manipulate them into thinking they are losing their mind, so you can get something from them, in the movie, he wanted her money. Has nothing to do with farts unless you fart, and when the person smells it, they accuse you of cutting the cheese and you say, “It wasn’t me, it was you, you farted.” Lol!

@AB-wf8ek

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe Schmo The term gaslighting refers to the play "Gas Light" (1938) that portrays a husband that tries to convince his wife that she's going crazy by dimming the gas lights and pretending the light didn't change

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

You are totally spot on about gaslighting through body language. Narcissists do it ALL THE TIME. Anything that can minimize, infantilIze, and degrade their victim is fair game for the gaslighter. It is high time to teach our elementary and junior high kids about gaslighting overtly and right in the classroom.

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe Schmo joe, you have made yourself TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to this conversation. Please go away; you're gas lighting! ;-)

Always heard you have no right to feel that way or you're just too senstive .

@susanmacaluso5218

4 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@jaclynh9343

4 жыл бұрын

Yes me too. I feel so inadequate and struggle to express my feelings now as a result. I have gotten to a point where I do not trust that anyone won't gaslight me. Have had that experience so many times and I feel so thrown off by it, it is so discouraging and disheartening. All that distrust has bubbled up now and sadly I feel so averse to relationships now, too scared it will be like anytime I bring something that is weighing heavily on my heart. Gaslighting, deflection, minimisation, twisting words around is so exhausting. I want peace and harmony between myself and others but it seems to be so foreign to me now. That person I used to be is gone, has lost hope in love, in connection. I have more fun on my own, less stress. The only time I feel alive is like myself is when I put some latin music on. I feel creative. Other than that on the whole I am deeply unhappy and know that my unmet needs of being heard, seen, respected, understood and having a sense of automony and freedom is what is driving this. Lord help us all in learning how to navigate this together.

@Amyehme

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaclynh9343 After seeing your comment, I checked out a video of yours. I thought you came across in the video, as having 'light' and 'goodness' and narcissists can indeed 'prey' upon that. Some people want you to feel inadequate and for you to not be aware of your own worth. The fact that your passion for the style of music you love still brings you joy, is great! Staying connected to what you love in important.

@CableGirl35

4 жыл бұрын

Craig M sensitivity can be a super-power if you learn to use it to your benefit and how to focus the energy. Sensitive people are often the most compassionate. I have used my sensitivity to volunteer with hospice patients and they adore the fact I’m sensitivity 🤗 We all have the ability to use what we feel is our ‘weakness’, flip it and reverse it and make something great out of it.

@katiemartell6520

4 жыл бұрын

That’s how certain people in my childhood/adolescence and even into adulthood. What a horrible way to make someone feel.

I’ve dealt with a narcissistic, manipulative gaslighting person who took advantage of me. It took me 2 years to figure the person out. The person also tried to make me feel guilty.

Every single manipulation tactic all but implies the use of the lying tactic and the gaslighting tactic. I actually dislike it a little calling out gaslighting as a manipulation tactic as it's actually an effect. All manipulation tactics will contribute to it by nature of what manipulation is. Some tactics however certainly take the gaslighting effect to a whole different level. Blatant lies that are so bad they insult your intelligence is one of them. That kind of shit will make you feel like you are in the twilight zone after a while. Here are some of the reasons they do this: To test their control. To feel superior and/or entertainment. This proves to themselves how much control they have over you. In the end, you will give up and you will not leave (trauma bonded). In the process of getting to the giving up stage, you will go through some pretty nasty emotional states ending in massive amounts of cognitive dissonance to swallow all of that. Cognitive dissonance is a trauma defense mechanism where you essentially lie to yourself in various ways so that you can bring back some semblance of equilibrium to the insanity you find yourself unable to escape from. As part of the ‘backing you into an emotional corner’ tactic. This is a tactic where you are manipulated into being emotionally unstable inevitably leading to you losing your shit. This gives the narcissist a big dopamine burst, they feel powerful and superior having so deftly controlled you and manipulated into this emotional state. To finish the little game they play, they make sure to point out how unhinged and unstable you are and suggest that perhaps you need help or medication. Of course, you will internalize all that shame and guilt and the million other raging emotions they have created and swallow all that essentially allowing them to scapegoat their blame and accountability onto you. Bring on some more cognitive dissonance and gaslighting effects. To condition you to expect less respect, and ultimately put up with more abuse. You will tire of the inevitable circular argument trying to convince the narcissist of the blatantly obvious lie and eventually find yourself challenging them less and less as you subconsciously accept the fact that if you do it will just make your life and emotional state more miserable and you will be denied the satisfaction of any kind of ‘win’ even if it is easy to disprove. This is part of the domination process and makes sure all the power in the relationship ends up with them by the end. To turn your mind to mush as the gaslighting effect takes hold more and more over time. This makes you even easier to control. Many times while easy to disprove it requires some kind of concession of some obvious truth that the narcissist can just doggedly refuse to agree with or remember (‘the intentional forgetting’ tactic and the ‘feigned confusion or ignorance’ tactics are often employed for this). So, in fact, it is not so easy to prove when the narcissist refuses to correctly remember what happened 10 min ago or accept sound logic or reasoning. You will just turn blue in the face trying. Of course, in some cases it is indisputable. A phone log or something. My experience is when this kind of stuff happens it wasn’t their intention typically, although sometimes it was. But in these scenarios, you will typically get some sort of angry ‘invalidating’ tactic, with some good old ‘manufactured rage’ and ‘intimidation’ tactics to ‘put you on the defensive’ and get you more susceptible to further manipulation. Maybe something like: “Get over yourself already” followed up by some ‘blame-shifting’ tactics with some good old ‘guilt’ and ‘shame’ tactics, like “Why the hell are you spying on my phone records anyway? What kind of relationship is this? I don’t have any privacy? I don’t know if I can do this anymore! You have major jealousy issues! You need help!” You will walk away as the loser either way. There are resistance tactics that can be used but this is a very difficult tactic to deal with and it is one of their favorites. I won’t get into the counter-tactics here though. The only way to really win in a relationship with a narcissist is to leave them and go no contact. Moreover, Catching a cheating spouse might be difficult, and knowing what local laws say you can and cannot do might be even more difficult. To simplify the process, consider hiring a private investigator to do the sleuthing for you I genuinely appreciate how incredible you are and your work! Thank you for a job well done *Metaspyhub@gmail. com* ,,

@fructosecornsyrup5759

Жыл бұрын

_omfg..._ It makes _sense_ now.

@kelly9282

Жыл бұрын

Seriously I Want to Ty for everything you've explained & the terms + organization. I can understand now. Ty

@kelly9282

Жыл бұрын

Do u know how I can copy what you've said cause it won't let me??

"Just end the conversation. It's emotional abuse.". Thank you

My ex did this to me for 12 years. Leaving him was the best decision ever.

@jamesmcginn8874

3 жыл бұрын

i did the same with my ex--been gr8 since . J.

@megank3358

3 жыл бұрын

Wow!! Glad you are out.

@danica9237

3 жыл бұрын

@@megank3358 me too my dear. For Christmas my divorce was finalized. Here’s to a new beginning for me.

@megank3358

3 жыл бұрын

❤

@acea1139

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmcginn8874 I'm pretty sure he is more happier than you!

My mother has been gaslighting me my whole life. I'm forever told "just get over it" and am not allowed to have a feeling or opinion. Conversations end up in yelling matches because I can never get more than 3 words of sentence out before she's spouting off again and then she ends up hanging up. So frustrating and infuriating. Funny thing is she wants to move in with us. I said no way not happening. I think she was shocked.

I was always saying “I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.” I was confused so often. We had high highs and low lows. I didn’t feel safe having a conversation with him without witnesses. He told me that his therapist told him that if he didn’t know he was gaslighting, then he wasn’t gaslighting. Currently going through a divorce. 😁🎉 thank you for your videos!!!

@brianlane9534

Жыл бұрын

I remember the day I told myself that I will never have another discussion with my spouse unless there was another person present - a witness. The gaslighting and constant lying about even the most inconsequential things, she still felt the need to lie.

@matthewlantz8073

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear this. Wish you the best

@LewDanLascivious8276

Жыл бұрын

The hidden signs of gaslighting: If one is always flatulate and plays with matches nearby. 🍑💥💨💩👀☠️🤯🤪😂

@Omkar529

Жыл бұрын

That's crazy, what kind of therapist says that ? Of course a narcissist would very likely not know that they are gaslighting someone.

@heathercovington8030

Жыл бұрын

Gaslight 1940s Ingred Bergman and Angela Lansbury check it.

"Singularly motivated to protect their reality and only their reality ". OMG this explains everything.

My ex was extremely emotionally abusive and gaslight me constantly. And unfortunately for me my memory is horrible so he made me literally feel like I was going insane and made me question my reality everyday I was with him, I had to eventually start recording and documenting everything just to prove I wasn’t crazy and that he was gaslighting me. Thank the lord I got out of that…

@DesiRhythm6

2 жыл бұрын

My mom is like that. No conversation we have goes without her gaslighting. I enabled a GPS tracker on my phone to prove my whereabouts and make everything written. I also suffer from bad memory. I sometimes wonder if our memory is actually bad or our gaslighters have convinced us that we have a bad memory so that we believe everything they say and doubt ourselves.

@juliustetevano6113

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had to screenshot convos from texts. I never knew what gaslighting was back then.

@aleksandrayancheva1473

2 жыл бұрын

It's scary how similar this sounds to me. I have a horrible memory and I am never able to defend myself when I know I am right, so I look like the crazy one.

@SoSo-cw8ph

2 жыл бұрын

Continuous stress due to abuse can damage the brain cells in the hippocampus, making it gradually shrink in size. As a result, the person starts to forget things easily and finds it difficult to learn new stuff.

@arifrankenstein1766

2 жыл бұрын

@DesiRhythm6 our cognitive function is impaired(poor short term memory, changes in speech, mental fog) due to constant stress. Our bodies are not meant to stay in long term fight, flight, fawn. Our brains are screaming DANGER and we tell ourselves, "they don't mean it" " he/she loves me" "they've been under so much pressure lately" "it'll get better" un aliving ourselves day in and day out. I began journaling and telling my sister about him, every single time he tried me with his bs. Then one day I said "eff this" and packed me and my sons stuff up and dipped! Never looked back

Who here is still gaslighting in 2024???? You are a legend!!!!

I was presented with accusations of sayin things I never said. And in return being called the gas lighter.... absolutely maddening

@bravemoon2124

24 күн бұрын

Yeah, they are learning new words too… when I tell mine he is gaslighting he says that I’m now a super perfect psychologist from instagram. It’s infuriating, like I have no brain to think, like I’m only able to record and replay other people’s experiences

Let me add, if you're being gaslighted by a narcissist, never tell them they are gaslighting. They will use that against you so hard. Soon, you'll be so confused, you'll be thinking you're the gaslighter after all. These people are very good at manipulation.

@puzzlerd1520

Жыл бұрын

My gaslighter says I’m gaslighting them yet I know the truths of what’s happened but then they say that’s only my recollection. Maybe I am crazy

@mary-ann2294

Жыл бұрын

@@puzzlerd1520 no you're not crazy. I've learned to write things down, date time and conversation because I know a campaign will come to try to make me discount my recollection.

@makeupmaven1332

Жыл бұрын

So correct 😕

@anaguq4651

Жыл бұрын

@@mary-ann2294 Same for me, i take pictures of where i left my phone, i-pad etc (he even blocked my phone once, i never responded to that, i could fix it by myself}, or is the diswasher on or of, where are my keys, things like that, so i know i'm not going crazy or doubt myself. Also never told him that i do these things, so not to confront him with what i now know about gaslighting. My time wil come. Stay strong and safe you all!

@brandik2684

Жыл бұрын

Oh 10000% I made this mistake numerous times with my husband….

Two decades of living with a covert narcissist who used gaslighting, psychological projection, lies of omission/commission, mental reservation, and every conceivable trick in the book left me completely destroyed. I was a devoted husband and stay-at-home dad for over ten years who ultimately had to leave his children...or die. Two years later, I have recovered enough to finally understand the truth: I was NOT insane. She was. Truth matters.

@moarroz

4 жыл бұрын

Yikes im so sorry you had to choose your life or your kids. That's horrible and your feelings are valid remember that. Normal ppl don't dismiss your feelings, and then kick you when you are down :/

@wheredidjaniego8329

4 жыл бұрын

I heard it put like this growing up a lot of us aren't crazy but the ones that are are very very good at it. Also, I'm pretty sure you're not one of them. there are several signs one of them is zero opening up pretty much.

@saraclarke8238

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Newbury - Yes, all of that and ‘casual cruelty’ - sarcasm, the put down’s and minimisation of anything I achieved, the unkind comments if he was feeling bad, and insistence that things went his way (or he would sulk/sabotage). I’m away from him now, but have a daughter who is behaving in the same way. I’ve had enough of it and am seriously thinking of walking away from her too.... it would be sad for my Grandchildren though...

@testabledaddyo5818

4 жыл бұрын

I want to get there! I'm tired of going/feeling insane!

@SuperDavemason

4 жыл бұрын

Don't beat yourself up to bad, I was with my narcissist wife for 25 years, just like yours mine used every narcissistic trick in the book, like she had some sort of instruction manual. I'm in no contact and I'm done with her, I couldn't believe when she gaslit me, at the time I didn't know what it was called but I knew what it was intended to do which was to try to distort my reality, the thing she underestimated about me is that I don't have a problem with my reality or my memory so her trying to gaslight me had the opposite effect, I was pissed that she would try this on me and found it a total insult to my intelligence and couldn't believe my own wife would try this kind of behavior on me, to just flat out tell me something didn't happen, wow! Also, the silent treatment was one of her favorites for a while but I put a stop to that, I told her how immature doing that was and it wasn't something I could put up with and she knew that was something she couldn't do anymore. what this did was to make her have to think even harder to try to find other things to push my buttons with, she would push my buttons to get me to bicker and squabble with her, it was just horrible, we would be out supposed to be having a good time and she would start this nonsense up. It got even crazier and after 25 years with her, I left her, she's a nut case. There's no fixing her she's mean to the core, her parents messed her really good and now she living with them again and she's even worse than before.

My former supervisor gaslighted me into thinking I am a bad worker, that I haven't been doing everything correctly, and that I am mean to other people when in fact I am probably the nicest person to be around. She sent me home crying one day and I am a full-grown man...

I have a great memory! So whenever someone tells me something, I do remember it exactly what the person told me, I didn’t knew in the past this was gaslighting! Interesting is the story of my childhood friend, once we were at a wedding, we were maybe 9 and 8 years old! We were sitting in a car, she removed her blazer and there were a few kids in the car, we left the car for taking photos, when we came back I saw her blazer on the cars floor and with some shoe prints on it, I’ve told her, oh no! Your blazer fell down and somebody walked all over your blazer, she told me, you walked on it! I said, no I didn’t, but she didn’t stopped to blame me, although I was swearing, I didn’t do it, but as child you don’t understand gaslighting! She was growing up in a very bad situation, her mother divorced her father and moved abroad and left her with her relatives, then she was passed from one aunty to another, to grandmother and they all were not nice people, so she became a narcissist early on. We stayed friends for a long time, but every time I would visit her, her behavior was unbearable! Once I visited her and from her place we traveled to Venice, she was dieting so she took some food in boxes with her, I’ve told her, don’t bring nothing with you, you will not eat it, we will eat at restaurants, but she took it anyway, there of course she herself only wanted to go to a restaurant, so she let the food in the boxes in our room, the next day I woke up earlier and throw the old food in the dustbin, bcoz it was already bad and it wasn’t smelling good, I was pregnant by that time, so any smell was disturbing me, I washed the boxes, later she accused me of throwing away one of her yellow boxes, I told her I was 100 % sure, there was no yellow box, all boxes were in place, I didn’t throw away nothing! Why should I do it! But she blamed and blamed! After a few days we came back from our trip and when we were putting some things back I opened a drawl and there was a yellow box, just like she described, I showed her and she didn’t knew what to say! Later I was charging my phone with her charger in the kitchen, she didn’t saw, that it was in the kitchen, this was after I packed my bags for heading back home, she asked me, if I packed her charger along with my charger in my bag? So now she kind of was accusing me of stealing her charger! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Since 3 years I have no contact with her, our friendship is dead! And only before a few years I realized she is a narcissist! She obviously stopped talking to me, bcoz I’ve got a wonderful husband and kids and she doesn’t have nobody in her life, nobody can tolerate her behavior!

@davenunn8673

4 ай бұрын

My spouse did it for yrs felt I needed to record every conversation as she say something a day later sometimes hrs later tell me I didn't say that or see them do it then no I didn't your crazy

A smart man once said Mike the older you get the less friends you have the better off you are

@iiam_liyha4127

3 жыл бұрын

Understood

@cosmicgirl7288

3 жыл бұрын

Preach!.

@hi-kt8jj

3 жыл бұрын

mhm that's the truth ♡

@jimmycain8669

3 жыл бұрын

I’m 71 and have less and less friends because it takes years to develop friendships and many of my friends are deceased. I used to go to weddings now I go to funerals. I appreciate the Lord getting me this far.

@michaelveigas8593

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmycain8669 I agree! I’m 36 and moved states and I meet a lot of good people my age but reality is after a certain age I really don’t feel the drive to make the relationships like I had back home. I unfortunately have been to some funerals too. God bless you

She is my favourite guest on this show

@ha8236

4 жыл бұрын

she has her own youtube channel too. Really knowledgeable.

@tg2814

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too :)

@natalie9884

4 жыл бұрын

Same. Need a pocket size Dr. Ramani

@natalie9884

4 жыл бұрын

#DrRamani

@jaclynh9343

4 жыл бұрын

I'm with you. GOLD

My boyfriend of a 7 year relationship and father of our 3yr old child was emotionally cheating on me with a girl he works with and when I found out I was devastated but somehow had to fight to keep HIM. A week later and he’s projecting onto me and flipped it now accusing me of cheating on him with my best of almost 20 years. I am straight and have never faulted from being loyal to my boyfriend, I love him so much it hurts. And that’s the problem. Love should not hurt. Love should not leave you in tears wishing you were good enough. 7 years of my life down the drain…Never lose yourself trying to earn the love and respect of someone else. My broken heart goes out to anyone going through this in whatever case…let’s hope we can heal in time and become whole again.

I tried conversing with my friend today and I said good morning. I was confused. “Why didn’t you say good morning to me?” Then they had the audacity to say I had crazy standards. For what? Trying to be polite?

"You're too sensitive." My mother's been telling me that my entire life. I'm 55.

@Johannastairwellstudio

3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rocker leave home! It’s your life. You are your own self. Just grow up and leave home and l meant this is the most loving way truly. Best wishes

@johnnyrocker7495

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johannastairwellstudio I left home 35 years ago.

@PurplePinkRed

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johannastairwellstudio "Just grow up" - Really? Very poor choice of words, especially without knowing the full story

@Johannastairwellstudio

3 жыл бұрын

PurplePinkRed l want to apologise for my comments. I don’t think l thought properly before posting and did not mean it to sound as it did. Thank you for letting me know and again sincerely sorry. Keep well

@S.C-

3 жыл бұрын

Or you’re out of line

Grew up with a narcissistic parent and have just realized how I much I did this to others thinking it was “normal” 😞 glad I’ve grown as a person and learnt better ways Edit to add: thank you so much to everyone who has shared, I’ve lost track of who I have and haven’t responded to, but if you are getting help or growing, I am proud of you!

@vminmotivationalcurve88yea64

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@aimeerebecca1

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Happy for your growth, and impressed + inspired by your candor in reflection.

@kimberlys.7097

2 жыл бұрын

Takes a big person to admit a problem and change. Good job.

@vickimaccallumvlogs

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimberlys.7097 thank you ☺️

@vickimaccallumvlogs

2 жыл бұрын

@@evileyeworx5037 I hope that you have a professional that is helping you? If not, the bravest thing you can do is ask for help ♥️ just to see if I’m understanding correctly, your family made it seem like it was your mind playing tricks on you because of your diagnosis when that wasn’t true?

"you are so sensitive" "you are overthinking" "you are so emotional". After expressing my feelings towards his actions. Every single time. I was right all along.

This was really helpful. I’m coming to the realization that I’m a victim of narcissistic abuse from my mother and it’s been really challenging because I still believe she’s a good person and loves me. This has been a good introduction to figuring out how to navigate this from a healthy mature place than falling back into the entanglement of emeshment. 🙏 definitely going to read the book

I learned that they love to see you miserable and that they will never ever apologize to you for nothing.

@bearlove8006

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. I felt horrible for my action in my ex marriage. I apologized to my ex but never got an apology from him when he did the same thing as i did, until i brought it up to him that he never apologized to me for doing the same thing..with a smurk remark he said "oh you want me to say sorry, sorry"

@toniwilson8212

2 жыл бұрын

True

@MrShuggman

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but if you bring it up they say “I do apologise when I’ve done wrong.” Always describing their good deeds retrospectively but never ACTUALLY demonstrating the story they’re telling.

@teagant9297

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Like your not good enough for them and your not perfect in anyway but they’re perfect in every way and nothing is wrong with them.

@trish8399

2 жыл бұрын

Most don't, but some do. However, it's never because they feel remorseful but rather a desperate attempt to keep you. A sorry person doesn't say sorry and then continue on with the toxic behaviour. They do everything they can to change it within themselves.

I was gaslighted my whole life. After my divorce, I must have been in my early 30's, I remember calling someone on something and they admitted it... I was stunned. No one had ever admitted anything to me in my life before. I don't remember the circumstance, but I still remember the feeling of total shock and relief.

@lynette599

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment to describe when one has lived in the twilight-world of a narcissist before.

@acharich

4 жыл бұрын

🙏🏾♥️

@tiffanypersaud3518

3 жыл бұрын

Yeh. I hear you. It is important to note, even journal that experiences, of when you feel shock about proper treatment toward you. Perpetuate and enjoy that treatment.

@goldieh7121

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, gaslighted by parents, friends, ex-husband, bosses and co-workers. I am shocked when people allow me to have my say. I have also found myself listening in on conversations between healthy people, just to learn what a healthy interaction looks like.

@lilac624

3 жыл бұрын

I can't stand the trauma...I want to disappear...

Thank you. As someone struggling to decipher if I’m being gaslit this was very helpful.

Six years after my divorce I’m still working through this. Thank you for the validation I got from this. I did record and still have the recordings. I did write the emails. You were spot on with those.

When I was a child I always dreamed of being able to record the things my mom said to me because nobody believed me. And she told the people nasty lies about me.

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry you had to experience that through your own mom. Thank you for reminding us that gas lighting often happens IN our own family.

@anthonyi7834

3 жыл бұрын

im sorta glad or terrified that i had to record a lot of conversations I have with my family

@marcyteacher5008

3 жыл бұрын

And it is true they never change, just try to be nicer to attract you back to them and them make you feel miserable and the worst child/person ever. My mom is a covert narcissist. Best thing I did was leaving home at 19. But it is a lifetime suffering. She put everybody - family & relatives -against me; away from me.

@arkradio9348

3 жыл бұрын

I am a survivor,too.

@khaoulabouhleli7131

3 жыл бұрын

same :(

My "favorite" is when they just pretend you didn't say anything at all. You answer a question, and they just keep repeating it because they didn't like the answer.

Thank you for your words of wisdom! You’ve helped me so much how to recognize and handle narcissistic behaviors. I didn’t know what gaslighting was until I came across your heaven sent channel. Thank you so much! I can’t wait to buy your book! ❤️

Wow this is so spot on I would text my ex thinking at least he can't interrupt I would poor my heart out on how he made me feel You know what he would come back with.... I'm not reading all this ...OR move on Three years of chaos, drama and emotional abuse..one month free And healing slowly!! Thank you Dr Ramani 🙏 🥰

"There's no reason for you to feel that way" "You're just jealous" "You're just insecure" "That's not something I can help you with" "That's a story you made up in your mind" - a chronic theme when I was involved with the narc.

@angelafayesims1563

4 жыл бұрын

"If "words" cause you to want to go home? "Rage Outbursts" when I disagree w/.narcs perspective?? Obnoxious & Insane!!! Scary as hell!! Narcs just transform!!!

@d.l831

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been there. I’ve literally had to screenshot conversations because within minutes (literally within MINUTES) he would go from one extreme to the other. And deny deny deny. One moment he wanted me to get rid of my baby, the next moment he wanted me to sign over complete and full rights of my child to him. The next minute it wasn’t his child. The next minute he was excited to have a family with me. It all depended on how my responses made him feel. Yet I was the one who was “too emotional“ and a “sycho”... yes that is how he spelled p-s-y-c-h-o. Currently getting everything documented with the proper authorities and personnel to help me hopefully with no contact. I am currently pregnant with this individuals child but I have gone no contact with him...well, The only communication that I have with him is to inform him of doctors appointments having to do with the little one. In the state that I am in it would be quite unlawful for me to keep him away from his child. Despite the circumstances the state that I currently reside deems it mandatory that both parties have equal rights to the child. Even if one party abuses the child and or the other party, the state governs a mandatory 50-50 at least. So if I were to go completely no contact and not inform him or give him the opportunity to be there for appointments regarding his child, the state will rule against me and I would possibly lose most of my rights as a parent just for having been the one to walk away. This whole system my state runs through as a farce. CHILDREN to them are cash cows, and because of this rule we have the highest domestic violence and child abuse rates in the nation. So I am doing everything that I can to make sure that my baby is safe. This man has a history of violence and I would be ignorant to believe that I am an exception to his rule. For me I feel as though it’s truly only a matter of time if I were to continue contact. Be safe out there guys.... this is all too real

@missybella9046

3 жыл бұрын

Gina...exactly what he told me. He'd also tell me I was the narc, miserable and even passed my misery 2 my son. He said I was broken and won't be broken with me

@alexd7466

3 жыл бұрын

but these things can be true though.

@lizquinones2003

3 жыл бұрын

Its happened to me this person keeps telling me that i made it up...its all in my head although I have emailed and photos that he is cheating on me

I had one tell me “I hate it when you get like this.” Of course that was after I started crying when he had said some really horrible things to me.

@brentzielinski912

3 жыл бұрын

Ps stussy U P W ,D,

@TRUTHorSTFU

3 жыл бұрын

First, identify and psychologically abuse your victim. Then blame THEM for having made the situation so bad. CLASSIC NARCISSIST GAS LIGHTING BEHAVIOUR. We've all fallen into that EVIL trap before.

@bennixoxo

3 жыл бұрын

im so sorry that happened

@sidrasiddiqui1852

3 жыл бұрын

OMG that sounds familiar

@fancyfeast5086

3 жыл бұрын

My partner does something similar but he is in no way a narcissist. Sometimes men do the minimising thing because they are uncomfortable with how they have made you feel. It's just so they don't feel like an asshat for making you cry because deep down they feel horrible for it lol

"U just read into things sometimes that are imagined" ... from a friend in a text. We are no longer friends now.

Thank you Dr. Ramani. You are a big help. Your videos have gotten me through a whole lot of confusion in my life. None of us need to even care what they think and just focus on our inner healing, mind ,body and, soul through God and therapy.