Nothing is better than most backyard remedies.

Best cleaning job you can get inside the tank. Period. Oh, that 20-30 seconds...That's all the time I spend with the wife after 41 years. So, I got the timing down! Thanks.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

@deankay4434

Жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab For stripping paint that words safely on fiberglass/SCM and metal, check out a company called "Coopers Strip Club" as the sell kits, large refills (About $250 two liquids) but they have you tube videos to watch. They are in New Zealand but require no difficult ordering off website or phone. No extra number to dial. The inventors wife answers the phone and knows the product well. It is a spray from bottles that use a viton seal, steel wool is sharp and the scotch brite pad is dense. Stripper lifts the paint and the "Flusher" is a slow drying solvent that helps remove the dissolved paint. Since the EPA banned sales of methylene chloride August 2019 to the public, their excuse was 41 people are dead because of misuse from 1976 - 2017. More have died from hair dryer accidents! They can't keep track of the waist is the real reason. I am glad they are much starter! DK, ASE master tech since 78, retired.

@patmohan3589

4 ай бұрын

,​@@deankay4434

I have to say that I never met you or talked to you about removing rust cheaply. But I have been doing the exact method of cleaning tanks just like you. We must be brothers from different mothers. This is definitely the cheapest and best method of doing a super job. Make more great videos for us all to learn from Sir. Peace

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jeffreyhermanson8184

Жыл бұрын

I followed the video to the end where he uses the acid then rinses well and if your not going to seal it right away to coat with WD 40. My question is what do you use for a sealer?

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hWx4rJqphdqficY.html

@FixNewsPlease

Жыл бұрын

It's not new. My grandfather taught me and I'm almost 70.

@victoryfirst2878

Жыл бұрын

@@FixNewsPlease Thank you fella for letting me know this fact. I guess great minds think alike.

Unlike most gas cans with ‘safety valves’, this one is EASY to operate kzread.infoUgkx6IImIpPboNrtVJSROnpF9EnyBzRrJKP_ with one hand. Nudge the tab and press the thumb button (all with your thumb) and you’re filling your tank. I bought this to use with a pressure washer that needs frequent refilling and it’s been a blessing compared to most of the ‘safety cans’ being sold. ergonomic and easy to handle.

@CycleFab

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I love how you make money saving a priority here. Its actually funny to think of the price difference from Evapo Rust and Vinegar 🤣. Thanks for this, awesome video 👍🏽

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I can't get over the price of chemical products. A lot are way over priced in my opinon. Thanks for watching!

Your the only one that gets to the point & knows how to get that Rust. Thank you. 😊

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, you are very welcome!

Oxalic Acid is the go. One table spoon in hot water for every litre. Brilliant in engine blocks and only attacks rust (Oxide). Doesn't hurt any other metals etc. Flush your block and fill with acid. Get it up to temperature and let it sit for several hours or overnight. Flush then add sodium carbonate at one tablespoon per litre. Run engine and sit overnight. Flush until clear. Fill with appropriate coolant. 👍

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard about this acid and how well it works on rust. Looking forward to trying it. Thanks for the input!

Love your work brother, well taught lesson which has helped clean my bikes tank, came out like new

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Right on Brother! Glad to have helped, and thanks for watching my channel.

Thanks a lot brother that just saved me 500.00$ was going to buy new tank but no need. Keep your rubber on the road,and the wind to your back.

Works like a charm, didn't believe it till I tried it. Filled a completely rusted tank with vinegar, left it over night, next day rinse and neutralize with baking soda, BAM! The rust was heavy scale, all gone shiny clean. Coated the inside of the tank with light oil, 4 years ago. Pulled it out last week, still clean and shiny inside.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff!

@kaisenhouse2264

Жыл бұрын

I’m bout to do the same with my 99 zx7r. I also want to coat it with something to help prevent it from rusting again. What kind of oil did you use to coat your tank?

@dylandzvonick8274

Жыл бұрын

What do you plug the tank with before filling with vinegar

@yopacific

10 ай бұрын

@@kaisenhouse2264WD 40 ma boy

Yep I use that for all clean-up parts stuff..👌

Great video! You explained this clearly and made it simple! I appreciate you for this and I’ll be trying your method this upcoming weekend.

@CycleFab

9 ай бұрын

Awesome, thanks! Good luck with your project!

Vinegar works like a charm, I keep a 5 gallon bucket half full of it in my shop with a lid on it so it doesn't evaporate away to nothing. It gets weeker as you use it but it take a lot of rusty parts in and out of the bucket before it gets too weak to keep using. That's one of the advantages of Evaporust, you can just keep using it over and over. I've got some in a tub on my bench that's several years old and filthy, but the small stuff that goes in there still comes out great. Using it once and throwing it away is like buying a new hammer on your way to work everyday

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

True! Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thank you for the detailed information, I cleaned my 13 GLS tank using this method & now looks brand new😊

@CycleFab

10 ай бұрын

Your welcome, Jose.

Thank you for sharing your technique. This has been very helpful.

@CycleFab

7 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

Thank you clear explanation that I needed to clean out my Honda CRV 1998 model. Cheers from Sydney, Australia!

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Great video and tutorial Larry, thank you. Couldn't have come at a better time as I just purchased a 55 year old, rusty on the inside, tank. No nonsense and expensive procedures, I love it! New subscriber :))

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glade I could help! And thanks for subscribing. Please feel free to check out my other videos on bike builds, fabrication and also powder coating.

100% agree. Vinegar is the perfect rust remover for motorcycle restoration. it's mild. Wont chew through precious rare parts. And if you give it time or add salt, it's very effective.

Nice job Thankyou for posting!!!!

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Great recommendation. The simple things often work the best and white vinegar is one of the best cleaning solutions.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Thanks for your video it really got me focussed on the task. If I could make a suggestion that may be appropriate to more challenging descaling of fuel tanks to make vinegar a tad more aggressive cleaning rust from steel a little common salt and a little detergent added to the vinegar could be useful. Cheers Lindsay

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

We tried to clean out a 1969 CT90 Trail gas tank using this, it did some removal, however after two attempts, we used Harbor Freight Evapo-Rust and it did a much better job of removing the rust.. However, if I ever do it again, I'll use the KZread guys method of electrolysis. Simple, cheap and from all appearances, does a excellent job.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting! Electrolysis does work well. I've used that method on a ford 9" rear end and it came out great!👍

@radonradon5478

Жыл бұрын

True that!

Glad I watched your video. Will use it on antique tractor tanks 👍

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Awesome.

Thanks Larry for a great video.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.

Quick tip for something I figured out about taping off the tank for the acid. On the first layer of tape take the last two inches and fold it over to make a handle. That way when you need to rip it off you can keep the glove on and grab the handle to pull the whole thing off.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Great Idea! I'll try that next time.

@leonardweisensee640

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks...good to know

@Errol.C-nz

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab can WACK that stuff hands down right back to clean bare bright steel.. in your paint section.. Oxalic acid.. about $3 will do your 3 gallons.. its KILLS rust & doesn't touch steel.. leave it for a day or so depending on severity of rust.. its used by dry cleaners to remove.. metallic stains from clothes.. so.. won't harm your clothes.. also it wont harm your paint or your hands.. rinse the tank before hand with draino or cheaper, caustic soda (its not a drink!).. LEAVE that hydrochloric acid out of it.. rinse after with a tblsp of 2-stroke oil & cup of petrol.. cheers from NZ

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

@@Errol.C-nz Thanks for the tip.

@bushmaster2936

2 жыл бұрын

Saved me from typing this simple solution. Thank you : )

I've used a few small nuts tied to fishing line to shake and rattle around the inside of the tank when cleaning it just helps knock out more crap. Keep up the good work 👍

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

It does help, and alot of people do that. Thanks for watching!

@TheGubiatti

Жыл бұрын

Gravel it’s good too

@rdlsar15

Жыл бұрын

I’ve used a bunch of washers and pulled them out with a stick magnet

@patmcnally2529

Ай бұрын

bb's work too. best on smaller tanks .

I used to use lacquer thinner and small old nuts and bolts. and I would reuse the old nuts and bolts. I like what your video taught me.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear, thanks for watching!

Thank you sir ! Great video

When I worked with extremely highly concentrated acids in a lab - for pre-cleaning sample bottles - I also wore a thick rubber full length apron. If you can get one it can help you avoid the quick strip tease under the hose on the lawn routine.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Respect the ACID.

@myemail2005

7 ай бұрын

That paints a funny picture! That's my kind of humor. Very helpful comment too!!! Thank you!

A good no chemical way to remove rust is 1/3 fill the tank with coarse beach sand (not salty) , wrap the tank in a blanket and put it in the concrete mixer stuffed with pillows to hold the tank in place. Set it going for a half hour, check to see progress and if necessary give it more time depending on how bad your rust is. I've alsodone a pretty good job cleaning scaly corroded galv u bolts and plates from my boat trailer in the concrete mixer with sand and gravel. Those being much heavier rust, they got 2 and a half hours and came out clean, threads and all.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good!

This is fantastic! Thanks!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching.

Great Video... Thanks for Sharing

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you ! ! ! ! I'm currently in the middle of this process on an old sportster tank. You da MAN !!! Keep up the great work.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dude! Hope your project comes out AWESOME! Check out my video on Sealing a Tank. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hWx4rJqphdqficY.html

@glenx4892

2 жыл бұрын

how did your sportster tank come out? I've got a dyna tank I'm going to attempt this project on....

@gregsimek1167

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenx4892 Hey dude, it worked really well. Better than I expected. I let the vinegar sit in the tank for about a week. I wasn't in a rush, and the longer it sits the better the result. The last couple days I added a long piece of chain that I had, and shook it around once or twice a day. I poured the vinegar out and just rinsed with some denatured alcohol a couple of times. You'll get some flash rust, which it just very light surface color. That doesn't bother me, because it's soooo much better and cleaner inside than before. Worth the effort.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenx4892 Great

@glenx4892

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregsimek1167 thanks ... I'm about to take the leap of faith and your experience helps me plan this endeavor.. thanks for sharing

Great demonstration . I personally use concentrated lemon juice , then I use , vinegar , extreme rust , muractic acid ! The I use diesel fuel to nutralize it ! Works for me ! And my old Harley's . Larry , has common sense , either way , his method works well too !

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the wonderful comment Daniel.

Superb clear cut video like I was standing next to you. I learned a lot and greatly appreciate it. I'm going to try it on my Oliver OC3 crawler. Slightly bigger tank but not much. Now I'm going to search your videos and hope I can seal it on my own too. Thanks again

@CycleFab

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate you commenting.

Greetings from England One of those great KZread videos which gives you everything you need! Thank-you for your time and knowledge :) Best wishes

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Wish I'd known about this a few years ago when I had a really rusty gas tank on a used lawn tractor I had purchased with the power to run a 48" inch belly mower and the weight to handle a rear bagger w/ a separate blower motor. Alternatives to the sealer you use are simply filling the tank with kerosene or diesel fuel to prevent flash rust. Spraying W-D 40 into the tank may or may not be 100% effective(you have the experience to know what works), but buying liquid W-D 40 by the gallon is expensive. For cleaning the tank you can get 9% vinegar designed for industrial cleaning, or use my method - I bought a gallon of 30% vinegar and just add a few ounces to each gallon of the Walmart-type vinegar, which is typically 5% vinegar, and the extra 30% vinegar I add really revs up the cleaning process. You can also buy citric acid in powder form and add it to water to make an acidic cleaner that can be as strong or as mild as you want. I like your idea of using Muriatic acid for the final process, but I'm a few decades older than you, and would probably forget to use proper eye protection or the correct gloves with that strong an acid, but I'm willing to experiment. Flash rust is a real issue in cleaning metal, and flash rust can form in minutes, which why I suggest kerosene or diesel fuel, if it's going to be a while before you finish a project. With these non-explosive fuels, instead of dumping them out after you empty the tank in the large container you use, just use a large funnel with a wire filter to capture the liquid as you pour it out of the tank and store it for re-use. Cone-type Coffee filters work well with funnels to capture very small rust particles. Thanks for making this excellent video. The EvapoRust product can last for years, and if you buy it on sale, you can save bucks. I recently bought some on Amazon for $19.99 per gallon with free shipping as a Prime member. Three weeks later, that same stuff is now $19.99 per quart(993 ml) by some sellers on Amazon. Five years ago I got 3.5 gallons of Evaporust in a container with a plastic basket you used to lower small parts into the stuff and then easily remove it periodically to check on the rust removal. $75 delivered to my house. I still use it but will be putting new fluid in it pretty soon, but just enough to keep the older fluid working. Evaporust is effective for a long time, and if heated up in the sun, it works quicker. I did some research and the way you tell if it's still good is by testing its specific gravity - the same way you tested the acid in car batteries in the old days. Now days it is easier to use an electronic device to test specific gravity, a device which costs about $15 online.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice and knowledge! I look forward to using it.

Thanks Larry! For the step-by-step method on how to properly clean out a motorcycle tank!👍 I learned something today! Great video!😎👍🤝

This is by far the best video on this topic thankyou

@CycleFab

Ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for commenting.

Watched this video a few weeks ago and re watching for a recap. Purchased a 95 heritage with new freshly painted tins but has minor rusting inside I want cleaned up to avoid future issues. Thank for the video!

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Sounds great! Thanks for watching!

On the last process with the muriatic acid, I put steel ball bearings in with it, then rock the tank around, the ball bearings help to knock the small remaining rust bumps off. Awesome video my friend 🤠🙏

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and thanks for watching!

@Ladosligese

2 жыл бұрын

would prob be easier with a chain instead of bearings :) easier to get out :D

I wished I watched this video 40 yrs ago. It would have saved me alot of time an money,thank you for all the good advice.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome Sir. Thank you for watching and commenting.

Excellent video. Thank you.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And thanks for watching and commenting.

Step 1: Drain and dry the tank. Step 2: Partially fill tank with sand and gravel. Step 3: Shake a whole bunch... you are sanding the inside of the tank. Step 4: Pour out sand and rinse with water. Step 5: Fill with Vinegar to get out the small rust. Step 6: Dry really well. Step 7: Optionally coat the inside of the tamk.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Now that's a straight forward procedure plan! Thanks!

@JamieTransNyc

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab Yep... works like a charm.. I have done a few tanks with it.

Good video. I've done it twice now with tanks that had WAY more rust. In my case I found if I leave the vinegar in for 5 days or so and then dump a bunch of drywall screws (Nice and sharp) in and shake the tank is PERFECTLY clean. The vinegar works slow but steady. I really couldn't believe it. The only "problem" is the flash-rust you get immediately when you try to dry out the tank.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

I had a viewer comment that if you flush the tank out with a Baking Soda/Water Mixture that the flash rust will not happen. I need to test this theory to see if it works. If you get a chance to do this before me then let me know how it goes please. Thanks for commenting!

@jasonbrown7258

2 жыл бұрын

What if you flush the tank with diesel fuel?put that oily film on.

@mikecollins8241

2 жыл бұрын

I put some light chain in the tank, with the vinegar (remove sending unit on automotive tanks).. give it a good shake/ roll it around.. repeat as needed, then rinse with baking soda/water.. I've saved several tanks with this method :) When I was younger we put chain and used motor oil in dirt bike tanks and just shook the crap out of them, drain and use.. not as good, but it worked!

Thank you so much!

Great idea, thanks for your video

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Hey Larry -- cannot thank you enough for this video tutorial (as well as your other videos). Your delivery is clear & concise & packed full of quality information. (I'll be cleaning a Harley dual tank in a few weeks.) Are you still using the denatured alcohol to help dry out residual water? Thanks again. I appreciate you!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I do use denatured alcohol if I'm dealing with a tank that has rolled or crimped seams. Thanks for watching and double thanks for the complement.

@eugenebrooks3290

2 жыл бұрын

it's difficult to see what you are doing.

So glad you emphasized neutralizing after the acid treatments! Lots of how-to folks fail to mention that. Something with phosphoric acid is good afterwards too, depending on the application. And it needs to be rinsed off well also.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for complement and your input! Also thanks for watching my channel.

@glenx4892

2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned phosphoric acid... I was thinking about ospho... that would come after the vinegar and baking soda clean out yes?

@steveesposito

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenx4892 Not familiar with ospho. Using Phosphoric acid after the cleanout is akin to Parkerizing, without the manganese. It is what manufacturers dip car bodies in after assembly, before paint, to resist rust, and to prevent rust from spreading if you scratch through the paint and primer.

@glenx4892

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveesposito thanks

Thank you for the video....spot on well presented.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

Just the advices I needed.Thank You Sir on a useful and very educational video.Greetings from Croatia.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Wish y'all have a good day in Croatia.

A great informative video, as well as part 2 (Caswell Epoxy Sealer). It's great to know that vinegar make a good rust remover. My big question is, after you used the Hydrochloric Acid, did you neutralize the inside with baking soda and water? Wouldn't that (the final rinses) leave flash or surface rust on the exposed metal surfaces prior to sealing with the epoxy?

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to show that in the video, but yes, I do use baking soda to neutralize the acid.

@FloridaGuy727

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab I was wondering the same thing. When you use the baking soda is it in the dry form or do you mix it with water? If so what's the dilution ratio?

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

One gallon of water to two cups of baking soda works well but you can mix it stronger if you feel like you need to. Thanks for watching!

My go to is Muriatic acid. (used to clean masonry) Also cheap, and then Washing Soda to neutralize. Come out sparkling without a hint of rust. Last tank had to be replaced as someone used an epoxy sealer that was peeling and flaking and could not be removed.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you don't prep a tank right before you seal it that can happen.

Thank you!

Nice Job! Thanks

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!! And thanks for watching!

You can reuse muriatic acid again, just pour it back into the original bottle for later use and or use the bottle to dispose of the waist acid safely labelled. The problem with using WD40 for rust prevention is it has electrical properties (salt). There are cheaper more suitable lubricant/oil rust preventatives available without electrical properties. Or the old school way a little transmission oil, flushed with fuel before use.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good! I didn't know that about WD-40. thanks.

@dananolan7847

11 ай бұрын

But WD40, is a water dispersant, hence the initials, where as tranny fluid is not....and why the 40?? is was deemed successful on the 40th attempt, in WWII I might add.

@sarahbee3732

Ай бұрын

How do you dispose of the autistic acid safely?

I'd think you could stop the flash rust problem using gas with premix two stroke oil in it. A high ratio like half oil would coat the bare metal with oil and not miss anything. Later after pouring it out anything left was meant to be burned by an engine. Always thought a little oil in the tank might stop or slow down the rust. Great tips. I want to try it on external sheet metal rust and my boat trailer.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a very good idea! I think I'll try that next time vs. using WD-40.

@rossbrumby1957

2 жыл бұрын

Mix water and lemon juice 50/50 and soak freshly derusted steel- it gives a faint green tinge and will not flash rust after rinsed off. Learned this from a guy who does a lot of rust removal with molasses/water mix.

@ahvyetnoc7287

Жыл бұрын

How did you wash or did you use water after you put the muratic acid sir

@jeffarcher400

Жыл бұрын

@@ahvyetnoc7287 I never did this. Only had the idea of using the oil instead of acid. Then when you put gas in the oil dissolves and burns off. I used to put a little premix in old fourstroke tanks hoping it might slow the rust. Seems to help.

@dylandzvonick8274

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffarcher400 what do you use after the vinegar? Do you just wash it out with water?

agree vinegar is unbelievable it’s a rust removal I’ve cleaned up some things I thought gonna be thrown away in the scrap pile and made them look brand new

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Sweet Thank You ! i also use white Vinegar & Bicarbonate of Soda for cleaning washing machine & tea coffee stains in Mugs

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Stuff really works!

Hey great vid thanks! 2 things, first, how long did you leave the vinegar in? And what percent vinegar- the food grade or? Second, a tip for the good tape when using the acid: fold a tab over at one end so you have something to pull on wo having to remove gloves 😉

@tonymontana897

Жыл бұрын

You can leave it for a few days, depending on how bad the rust is. Can be up to a week too.

@wdmgarage1178

Жыл бұрын

He talks about it at the end. I believe he said to let the vinegar sit for 24-48 hours

@dylandzvonick8274

Жыл бұрын

What do you cover the bottom of the tank with when filing with acid? Do you just use good tape?

@nmartin5551

5 ай бұрын

@@dylandzvonick8274good question!

Cycle Fab is 125% correct on the vinegar, USE IT. I have used it many times, sometimes for 4-5-6 days, the tanks always come out clean. The HCL is a great idea if the vinegar does not get you quite as far as you want to go, be super careful. Forget the Caswell's....... Red Kote, Red Kote all the way....... it will be locally available at O'Reilly's (I think), it's cheap, and VERY forgiving. And, it coats like a dream. If your tank is in bad, bad shape, the vinegar will eat through and create pinholes if you leave it for too long...... but that will happen with anything that really removes rust. Better to leak $2 vinegar than $25 cleaner. I filter and recycle the vinegar, I have not noticed a reduction in efficacy, but never used it for more than 2 or 3 tanks. Great video, Cycle Fab, thank you.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@myemail2005

7 ай бұрын

You are the first I've ever read who mentioned filtering the liquid you are going to reuse! GOOD JOB! I figured that was obvious, but others might not think of it. I don't think you can do it with the Red Kote though. Too thick!

Great tutorial, thanks! Tape hack, make it a little longer and fold an inch over on itself, makes an easy handle for tape you know you're going to pull off.

@CycleFab

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the tape info!

Great video!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!

Excellent tips on rust removal. But, Never seal the inside of a tank! It renders it irreparable in the future and with today's fuel blend most resin based sealants will eventually fail. I have been a professional tech for over 40 years and have repaired countless tanks with dents and rust through but once resin sealed they simply can not be repaired properly. This may be viewed as my opinion but it is my experience as well.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@1cleansinglecab

2 жыл бұрын

Have any opinions on removing a sealer from a tank?

@hlrembe62

2 жыл бұрын

@@1cleansinglecab the only method I am aware of is a burn-off oven at 850°f and that could potentially damage the steel the tank is made of. The epoxy is fairly impervious to chemical strippers.

@jasonpiech385

2 жыл бұрын

I've used milkstone remover mixed 50/50 with water let sit for 24 hours and drain... clean tank then I fill up the tank and add seafoam to get rid of any water left over and it's only 20 bucks for a gallon of milkstone remover.

@hlrembe62

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonpiech385 you use milkstone for rust removal or are you saying it will break down and remove the epoxy lining? It is basically phosphoric acid which I use as an etching agent on bare steel before paint.

Great video. About to do the same on a Honda atc tank. Have you ever heard of a product called hold tight? We use it with our dustless blaster. (Think massive sand blaster with water). We stripped a truck several years ago to bare steel and it is still perfect! Usually without it it will rust within hours. And it’s safe to paint over. I think I’ll try that. Maybe look into it for yourself. Just a tip.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I will check that out. Thanks for watching!

Good stuff. Thanks.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching my channel.

Good Stuff ! I use a clean length of galvanised-chain, just agitate it by hand, removes any scaly-bits before treatment. Dave NZ

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Fill the tank with a old rag cut into a long section to make up the space and you only have to use one bottle of vinegar

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

That's an idea.

Very good presentation Sir, cool and easy to follow as opposed to much we see on YT! I just now derusted a Harley tank using diluted NaOH (10% lye) using electrolysis; cannot say I really was all that impressed although it wasn't too bad. Thought about taking the rest away using oxalic acid. I didn't really understand though; muriatic acid (HCL) is ****n dynamite as compared to the soft vinegar. Why not diluted HCl + neutralising using baking soda - just asking :)

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Muriatic acid is too aggressive with the older tanks that I typically work on. Vinegar is more easily controllable even though it does take several hours to work.

@hni7458

Жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab Thank you kindly Sir!

Excellent sir

Thank you Sir great video lm gonna try it myself .

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Please do, and thanks for watching and commenting!

How long did you keep the vinegar in the tank for before you dumped it? Thanks

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

24 hours.

So when you get to the muratic acid portion, are you rinsing that out after neutralizing the acid or letting it dry out hoping there is no baking soda left over? These are great tips but it seems like a few key details are missing from the video. Hopefully I can get a response soon as I am in the middle of a tank cleaning and trying out your method. Thank you.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Hind sight being 20/20 I did (unintentionally) leave out some key steps, taking for granted that they would be interpreted. After the acid is poured out I rinse the tank with fresh water and then a baking soda/water mix and then I rinse that out with water and then coat the inside of the tank with oil (two stroke engine oil) if the tank is not going directly back onto the bike. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Good luck with your project.

@jamesbarnett4987

Жыл бұрын

I listened to his steps and read a few comments and replies back to comments. My tank cleaning was a huge success!!! I greatly appreciate the content! I'm extremely satisfied with the results!! Thank you so much for replying back.

Awesome 👌 👍

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🤗

Steps are: High pressure water rinse, soap/water rinse, thorough water rinse, vinegar bath for 24hrs, 40 sec hydrofluoric acid wash, wd40 to stop flash rust forming, acetone to remove wd40 & then add tank sealer.

@CycleFab

11 ай бұрын

That's the process, I do use two stroke engine oil now instead of WD-40. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@karkmasterfunk1

8 ай бұрын

If I decide not to seal the tank and just coat it with 2 stroke oil, is it safe to leave the oil when I fill it back up with gas?

@CycleFab

8 ай бұрын

Try to get as much out as you can before filling it up with gas, you'll be good. Might smoke a little.

I work with larger tanks. Say 12 gallons. The bottom hole is less than an inch. The filler hole goes into the tank about an inch. Thus, making it almost impossible to remove the debris. How do the shops get around this?

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

In this case I would suggest using 3/8" ball bearings inside your tank while cleaning it with soap and water, to break up the large oxidized debris. You'll probably will have to do this several times. Thanks for watching!

Great information

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thanx !! I need this process on steel lawn mower gas tanks..👍

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

You'll love it. Works like a charm!

how long did you leave the vinegar in the tank? also, what is your opinion on using the tank after the vinegar without using a sealing product? thanks!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

I leave the vinegar in the tank for a minimum of 24hrs. You don't have to use a sealer if you chose not, BUT it has been my experience that with a heavily rusted tank it would be in your best interest to do so.

About a pint of muriatic acid will do what the gallon of vinegar will do. And you can fill it with hot water, or better yet, you can just slosh it with the acid, then dump it in 2-3 mins, then rinse it with 1 gal of hot water 3-4 times. Then put 2-3 spoons of baking soda and hot water. Rinse, then 2-3 more hot water and you're gonna have a dry as a bone and rust free tank. Then put that kreem liner in it. Of course there's many precautions in each step. The cap hole is plugged with those exhaust plugs for dirt bikes, the filler hole with duct tape, all other holes plugged up with whatever is right for those holes, acid wont eat duct tape, it will eat pot metal in the petcock. Hot water of course is hot water, wont eat anything. Just need to slosh it and not burn yourself. Baking soda - likewise. The liner - it needs to sit there for 1-3 days in hot weather. It will eat duct tape. I use a inner tube on the stock petcock and the exhaust plug in the filler cap.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, you can clean a tank that way using muriatic acid. But personally I prefer to use as little muriatic acid as possible for safety reasons. The process your using is a lot faster though.

@seshadrisrinath

2 жыл бұрын

@@CycleFab Yea, and worse yet, you have to buy those by the 2 gal container. But if you have a pool, you have use for a lot of the acid.

Thank you for the information that was very very interesting of watching how you did that I really appreciate it thank you

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching!

I just discovered your channel and subscribed. I picked up a Suzuki marauder cheap last year and it needs a little work. I’ll be cleaning the whole fuel system and this video is gonna make that a whole lot easier for me. Thanks!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome! I've got a Suzuki GS550 I'm building into a street tracker. You should check out the playlist of it, here's one of my favorites: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4J7l7iQhLGxgtY.html

@MaaZeus

2 жыл бұрын

Well I'll be damned, so did I. I bought a 99 VZ800 Marauder also last summer and it also started leaking fuel later that summer. It had been previously welded and it started leaking next to it but I did a quick fix with liquid metal epoxy and it did hold the rest of the driving season until now it started leaking really bad at the winter storage. To my chagrin I noticed that it is almost impossible to find a replacement tank for this bike and none of the "universal tanks" fit without heavy modding and welding. This video is godsend. I will remove the tank next saturday, fix the leak properly with welding (hopefully not blowing myself up), give the tank a vinegar bath and line it up with something. Either heavy duty epoxy paint or POR-15 which is easily available here.

@mmpatriot2170

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaaZeus Best of luck with your repairs. 👍

@MaaZeus

2 жыл бұрын

@@mmpatriot2170 Thanks. I will report how it goes. Hopefully everything is ready before the riding season starts here up far north.

Very good and thanks.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great video and content,thank you for sharing your knowledge and saving hard earned cashe!

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

Very good video!! Better than some of them I have seen. I have a project bike I'm working with and this looks like it'll be the way I'm going with. Very informative and in the methods to use. Will be doing this in the next week or so. Hope to get the bile running for it has been sitting here since 4/20/20. Bought it after sitting 6-7 yrs. After the tank cleaning comes taking care of the carbureter. Thanks for such a good video and Jesus loves you, John 3:16-17 (KJV)

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Nice.. 👍😎✊

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. And thanks for watching and commenting, it really helps my channel!

I’m going to check out your other videos. I have two vintage Honda Trail 90s that need this.

@CycleFab

5 ай бұрын

Awesome!

@u0232760

2 ай бұрын

How did the vintage Honda Trail 90s turn out? Did you do this process exactly? Did you use Caswell? I have a 1970 Trail 90 that keeps clogging up the jets from the rusty gas tank, despite added in-line fuel filters. I was planning to use this method and then Caswell.

@nmartin5551

2 ай бұрын

@@u0232760 I wish I could tell you. I”m one of those project heavy people. The Trial 90s have not been touched.

Thank you so much for sharing your system.....I'm getting ready to do this to my diesel tractors tank....I'll let ya know how it works for me....Just, thank you

@CycleFab

Ай бұрын

You're welcome! Happy to help! Thanks for watching and commenting!

Yes thankyou. Cheap & effective

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

👍

i reuse the acid too...thanks for sharing...doug

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Okay!

I used this method on a Vincent tank worked perfectly 😮

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Vinegar is great for vintage tanks because of its less than aggressive nature. Glad that my video helped you, and thanks for watching and commenting.

👍great job well done video will save lots of cash

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍 for watching!

I have been using vinegar for a while for cleaning rusted parts too. I soak the parts for a couple of weeks depending on how much rust is on the parts then wire brush the parts clean. When I'm done it looks like they were zinc coated the prep for paint. If I want a good seal I will use acid etching primer and it's good enough for me. When restoring old car sheet metal I will clean it the same way bur after wire brushing it, it makes it easier to weld to. You do good work.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the compliment, and thanks for watching my channel!

Thank you. Off to clean out my Honda CB 360 tank.

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting.

I will have to remember that for my next rusty gas tank.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

It works really well.

@siTTinLo

2 жыл бұрын

I see that. In the past, before I’ve rinsed the tank out, I’d toss a bunch of nuts and washers into the tank and move and shake it all around. The nuts and washers would help knock off some of the really scaly rust inside.. but your method seems to work very well without having to do that step.

Quite impressive.

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

thanks for this video

@CycleFab

Жыл бұрын

Most welcome.

I had good results from shaking up granite chippings and Phosphoric acid (left a long lasting phosphate coating as a bonus.)

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

I've been getting a lot of input on phosphoric acid, I going to use it on my next tank. Thanks for the info and thanks for watching my channel.

That Was Good Thanks

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!

great video!

@CycleFab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!