metal bat has just gotten a massive nerf

@Godoudama

6 ай бұрын

Thank God, I still main it and the Savage tornado can be an easy bait into Death Blow. Overall 9/10 update, Still waiting for the monsters update btw.

@RayanShalaby

6 ай бұрын

Yea I saw it in their discord. They finally nerfed one of the most annoying characters in the game.

@Beabo-the-juice

6 ай бұрын

YES

@braindamagegood

6 ай бұрын

m1 once then quickly dodge to push

Issues with metal bat (from my point of view): -foul ball being unblockable while working as one of metal bat's base best extenders. -grand slam being jet dive 2.0 (unblockable, shorter windup, combo extender/starter) -beatdown sometimes bypassing block. -his passive in ranked its rigged, doesnt matter whanever u do ur opponent its going to get ult and use it. And sounds funny knowing how metal bat's ult is. -savage tornado not only having extremely low cd, but also having almost no windup and not giving u the chance of cancelling it, the only thing that is going to happen if u try to cancel it, its that ur gonna get the full dmg of savage tornado. -strength difference having almost the same dmg as final hunt but no being a single-use move. -death blow variant having almost the same range as garou's ult anim while also dealing more dmg than it.

@reubenblakequinones2630

6 ай бұрын

They need to change death blow

@drawforfuncount-uz1xo

6 ай бұрын

"savage tornado having almost no windup" me: *gets savage tornado cancelled

@Godoudama

6 ай бұрын

​@@drawforfuncount-uz1xo Imagine doing Savage tornado infront on the Opponent bruh

@Godoudama

6 ай бұрын

Strenght difference is ok since it can be blockable but the damage on block should be nerfed. And Beatdown only bypasses block if done from behind. Other than that I agree on everything.

@drawforfuncount-uz1xo

6 ай бұрын

@@Godoudama sorry for being bad af 😢

IM SO GLAD YOU'RE SPEAKING UP ABT METAL BAT ive been preaching it every day istg, the savage tornado is WAY to op, and its like you said is what ive been saying Savage Tornado - - - > Strength Difference and you basically won, cause they're forced to ragdoll cancel to avoid the Strength Difference taking 90% of their HP, but when they ragdoll cancel you can just use the counter, knock them down, and then burtal beatdown the best thing you can do is ragdoll cancel and try and hit them before they can use the counter and that MIGHT save you, but if you fumble AT ALL then chances are you're gonna be dead now And if they dont active your counter then knock them down, brutal beatdown, they dont have ragdoll cancel, and then they're dead, and by the time thats over they still have savage tornado and strength difference so they can do the same thing to another victim after the first one gets sent to hell

the metal bat is the most on and dishonest , so it has 2 counter movements that almost immediately kills , plus that if the counter movement does not work , there will be another blow that can interfere

For metal bat ult savage tornado, the cooldown is better to start when the move it's done and not when it's used, that gives least 2 savage tornados for sure instead 3 time uses.

While Metal Bat deserves a nerf, the buff to his 4th move is and probably will be effective against people who love to block spam his moves, but the character that should be buffed is Garou because of how dirty they did him, sure his ult was op but they didn't need to remove the I-Frames on his first and fourth move, although it is effective because it removes the chance of you being stuck in the barrage while being in the same ult as the opponent, point being is give the start up of Garous first move I-Frames, because people cancel it before you get the chance to use it

@bencesilye4911

6 ай бұрын

I agree, the i-frames on the first move was the only reason you could fight back other ppl(when they used ult) efficiently, now Garou can do nothing against other ult users if they have at least 2 braincells.

@aziatouchsilent8507

6 ай бұрын

Block spam is literally the only way you were able to actually fight against Metal Bat pro's as a person who knows how to play yourself Now it's not even safe to block against him😭

@DestinedSpace_YT

6 ай бұрын

@@aziatouchsilent8507 Maybe if you paid attention to certain characters and read your opponents, you'd have no problem fighting metal bat, try using Garou or Atomic Samurai, play counter-attacker

@aziatouchsilent8507

6 ай бұрын

@@DestinedSpace_YT Is that supposed to be making fun of me I have no problem reading my opponents, I'm not that bad at the game It's just that pro players that know how to play defensively is to hard to be counter attacked

@theslimegamer5451

6 ай бұрын

So we can’t use block now 💀 Niggas be stupid as hell

you can interrupt the tornado in first second or so , the user has no real way of seeing where u land unless they look up which can disorient them , its sometimes hard to aim strength difference 2nd move can also be interrupted but for longer period of time than tornado tho ye tornado should get around or at least 1.5x cooldown of current

@mastrsonic375

6 ай бұрын

The window to interrupt the Savage tornado is very small and may I remind you can cancel Savage Tornado and Brutal beatdown start into Death Blow which is a instant death

@justrad7637

6 ай бұрын

@@mastrsonic375 eh not rlly , if you have good reaction time and they arent to far away u can interrupt it easly so just , hit them once , not twice ? whats so hard in that?

Finally someone who actually noticed that Garou got buffed

Also savage tornado gets a 0.5x damage boost with each person in it meaning if every player can n the server is caught there’s a 7x damage boost so you can strength difference after and one shot fully, they messed up with this move.

@Stando-User

6 ай бұрын

Omg savage tornado is so op I can’t believe it can 1 shot with strength difference when everyone in the server is caught in it😢

I totally agree with savage tornado, it needs to get a nerf! Metal bat is way too op due to that one move (and strength difference) and I think that they should delay the cooldown time.

@Monke_Edits12

6 ай бұрын

Blud edited it and is actong like he predicted it

Tip: if they use grand slam you can also use grandslam and get them into ur combo

I think we should make the foul ball like flowing water it breaks block but knocks you far back so you can’t combo extend

I think metal bat before update was on the edge of being unbalanced and balanced but after update it more like unbalanced

Also Garou ult animation is NO MORE bypass by omni directional punch

Tbh I feel like they should make preys peril work on fourfold flash strike because it would honestly make Garou more fair against sonic and brutal beat down should be cancellable by m1s or certain moves

@phloxJPEG

6 ай бұрын

Not cancellable but blockable

@pizza5013

6 ай бұрын

it already works you can counter fourfold flash strike

@entity8638

6 ай бұрын

@@phloxJPEGAlready is blockable

@ZackCurry6

6 ай бұрын

@@pizza5013You clearly dont play the game

@pizza5013

6 ай бұрын

@@ZackCurry6 i do play the game and i remember using counter on fourfold flash strike

They should undo the foul ball buff and also make grand slam blockable like jet dive (it's really annoying)

@campeoncito88

6 ай бұрын

its very easy to counter idk what u talkin about

@toiletgaming3621

6 ай бұрын

@@campeoncito88Ping has made it impossible for me to escape ground slam, I’m like 5 studs away from the Aoe and it’s still hit

@dylee818

6 ай бұрын

In defence of jet dive, jet dive has a way bigger hitbox and grand slam has a smaller hitbox.

@anjarnugraha3788

6 ай бұрын

Grandslam is so easy to counter. just dash to the side and your out of it.

@brianroman7945

6 ай бұрын

U can block jet dive?

metal bat things and good things(good then bad) first good:all metal bat moves have variants(except beatdown) wich is good for combo extender/when missing the move you do a variant wich deals like 70% of the move damage 2:metal bat gains ult by being hit as well wich is good for noobs who always get beaten so they can active thier ult faster 3:most of metal bat moves are unblockable wich is good for people who like to keep thier hands on the f button 4:savage tornado having big range so you can catch players who like to run/cancel players moves 5:savage tornado makes a free open for using strength difference 6:if you missed strength difference it will have the same cooldown as savage tornado so you can use it again 7:all metal bat moves(except grand slam and normal foul ball)have s wich is good for teamers unlike other characters like saitama that can get hit during moves 8:grand slam can be a free combo starter if you know its range and its variant also have a good damage and makes u m1 the player 8 times instead of 4(thats without adding you can loop dash them after m1ing them after the grand slam variant) now for the bad things: 1:metal bat having the slowest m1s in the game wich gives players more time to heal and get thier ragdoll cancel back(if used) and also makes combos longer wich increases the chance of them getting thier ragdoll cancel back in middle of the combo 2:metal bat normal moves having low damage wich make you have to full combo a player 3 times for them to die unlike other characters that need 2 or even 1 combo to die 3:brutal beatdown when used players have 2 seconds to combo u wich is bad if you dont have death blow cause you are just giving them free combo 4:metal bat death blow is 1 time use and strength difference if hit you cant use it anymore during ult or can use it if you used strenght difference at the very start of your ult wich makes u only available with savage tornado and brutal beatdown 5:even tho savage tornado have a big range its damage isnt even good its just a combo starter that you can use to extend with stength difference or brutal beatdown 6:since metal bat m1s are already slow if u just the m1s a little bit slower you can get countered wich is very bad cause m1s are the main things in the combos yes thats all i have if you have other thing to say in replys say it

as a metal bat user that nerf a few months ago really affected my playstyle i had to move characters to garou because of the debuff

u can cancel savage tornado and brutal beat down at the start so stay cose to a meteo bat if they have ult so u can cancel it

This thing that garou 4 ult move is now has always finisher animation is amazing

As a metal bat main the only reason i see why the devs made it like this is cause all his base cooldowns are higher than the rest of the charaters like think about the cooldown time for garou and samurai on their counters(which are extenders.) And when your in ranked all the people you ever see is (garou) and the easiest way to beat metal bat(back when his kit was new) players would simply back up and let the metal bat pursue them then counter which metal bat really only has one reliable chase move (no the rock throw is one of the easiest things in the game to dodge) But i do agree the the 3 on metal bats ult is to amped but also has a small hit box so only one real way to hit it cause rag dolling a enemy isnt ling enough to ensure the hit

The only issue i have is atomic samurai's charge move. It isnt blockable and is similar to beatdown and cant ragdoll cancel. It even has a backup slice if you miss or enemy dodged well.

@thecommenter206

6 ай бұрын

What charge move?

@literal881

6 ай бұрын

if they miss pinpoint cut's stomp, you can block the second attack, but you sadly cant block the air ability.

6:44 I also have the same habit and for some reason my brain keeps making me press F

Idk if anyone noticed but they buffed downslam, they made it so you don’t have to wait for the to get up to use it while they ragdolled

@joel784

6 ай бұрын

No you could do it when they are ragdolled before by aiming for the head or torso Or maybe the hitbox increased..

@Astroduck44

6 ай бұрын

@@joel784 no, if you tried to do a downslam right after they were ragdoll it didn’t work because you would have to wait for a few seconds then do it

@joel784

6 ай бұрын

@@Astroduck44 It worked for me?

tbh i think if they revert the foul ball change and make grand slam blockable like jet dive, he might be ok idk

This is kind of what happened to sonic where explosive shuriken used to be able to be blocked

Yes that is true about the savage tornado but, when your in the air you can side dash out of it causing you to not take any damage from the fall

That’s crazy

As someone who has used metal bat I can agree savage tornado needs a cooldown nerf, as for garou I really don't care since I never use him

Garou has the move that can literally counter death blow, final hunt so it makes him MUCH STRONGER if you time it right

@user-nm9zq9gi8b

6 ай бұрын

garou's ult still sucks against other ults

@randomjared8394

6 ай бұрын

@@user-nm9zq9gi8b garou's ult isnt great but it counters most ultimates due to final hunt

@Kaijuchainsaw63

6 ай бұрын

@@randomjared8394true, its always been my favourite ult move from garou

@jralpalesmole6998

6 ай бұрын

@@Kaijuchainsaw63 i wont lie the garou ult is boring ash compared to the others because of the 1st and 3rd move those 2 need to be reworked bro the 1st and 3rd moves are more similar to base moves than ults.

@mysyvcic

6 ай бұрын

​@@jralpalesmole69982 is already good dude like why need 1 and 2 (3 needs to be) to be changed??

Not me watching this at 23 : 40 because im bored and cant sleep, btw awesome work as usual holy grail.

Metal bat's base moveset is aight, but it's passive along with how good its ult is, it's not alright.

Garou got a true 1 shot combo with no final hunt now

Wellworks da goat

I like the part when he gets hit from the guy and then complains about how his fps when down for a nano second at time 6.08

Metal bat has literally a unstoppable combo while in ultimate. Savage tornado to Brutal beat down to Strength difference for a instant kill. If they evasive out of brutal beat down, they cant do anything in the air so you're able to use brutal beatdown without any interruption. "What if they ragdoll cancel out of brutal beatdown instead?" While after the long animation of brutal beatdown, you're able to use savage tornado RIGHT AFTER IT. In which you use savage tornado into Death blow's slam into strength difference for a instant kill.

Metal bats ult is so op you know final hunt for garuo ult dose like 60 percent damage and you can’t use it again we have strength difference that dose more and it has a short cooldown not just that it has a move that can one shot aka death blow and there is only like 2 moves I know that can bypass which is final hunt and Omni also savage tornado is ez to hit which can combo into strength difference dealing massive damage

Even though this literally has nothing to do with the video, but i wish they made an update that fixes kill stealing where when someone gets killed the system checks all the people that dealt damage to that person and whoever dealt the highest amount of damage gets the kill

i like your vids when you use your voice

death blow one shotting continuing to give mode while saitamas death counter doesnt, seems reasonable on a character with the best ult moveset in the game.

6:36 "the generation ender" HAHAHAHHA I CANT PLEASE STOP MEE HAHAHAHHAHAHA-

First time heard wellworkss voice and not robot voice.

Honestly I like this Buff because most of metal bat's moves are easy to dodge and starting a combo with melee is harder because metal bat has the slowest melee speed in the game however, this is also going to be extremely annoying to fight against.

They should add all the s back to all the moves for garou ultimate like for crushed rock the dash can't be cancelled when you are moving

Metal needed a nurf on ult ngl

The reaction time in 8:05 is simply wild💀💀💀

i mean if u attack it before it gets s like brutal beatdown it cancels the move but its almost impossible to do that for savage tornado

Good for them, metal bat kinda needed that for an upper hand.

You actually CAN escape savage tornado, you just need Genos lol, just air camp

They should increase savage tornado animation start-up. It would help people with reacting better.

I suggest that they nerf the cooldown as well as start the cooldown when savage tornado actually ends and not when its being used

6:09 Bro got the best excuse ever made up

b4 rock splitting got i frames the first half wouldnt be blue unless they hit a player

Metal Bat did not need a buff, if anything he needed nerfs. I think some good nerfs are making the range of his second move shorter and making his third move blockable .

@SatoruGojo69420

6 ай бұрын

they should make beatdown have a startup so you cann react to it and maybe make the grand slam hitbox smaller

@AcePacit

6 ай бұрын

agreed

@heehee704

6 ай бұрын

he doesnt need nerfs, i can easily react to and punish all of his moves

@Kaijuchainsaw63

6 ай бұрын

@@SatoruGojo69420yeah that would honestly be more balanced

@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa0

6 ай бұрын

the base dosent need nerf the ult does

i agree to nerfing brutal tornado, or maybe even his base and possibly some more of his ult other than brutal tornado.

@Rac1stdustdust

6 ай бұрын

Tbh they need to nurf the slam of death blow maybe do les damage or decrease range

@clouds210

6 ай бұрын

@@Rac1stdustdust and seriously every single move in his base form breaks block except for beatdown. And maybe nerf the damage on strength difference.

@Rac1stdustdust

6 ай бұрын

@clouds210 true and they need to make savage tornados time while u can cancel it atleast the same time of flamewave cannon maybe a couple seconds left

Brutal beatdown is insane with Xbox/PS 4/5 bc of the auto lock, literally all metal bat ultimates attacks with auto lock is op as hell 💀

yeah but death blow is 1 time use, and if u directly hit strength difference u cant use again so

Fun fact if somebody misses home run and they try to come at you there is a high chance you can hit them and no more dashing now

I personally think you should escape be able to escape foul ball grab after being hit.

The only thing I think metal bat should be nerfed in is the s that he has on his awakening moves. I think savage tornado should be nerfed only because of his unreactable windup for the and the best possible way to nerf this is for it to have a longer windup because its travels such a large distance. Brutal Beatdown is alright with its given s but the run part of the move should have its invincibility disabled so it can be easier to stop it, Strength difference has to be nerfed cuz its a slow run move and people should be allowed to stop that.

@ha7en3429

6 ай бұрын

after using strength if you missed the move it gonna have the same cooldown as savage tornado but if you actually hit the move it gonna have the same cooldown as the old final hunt cooldown(yes final hunt had a cooldown before but it got changed to the cooldown get off when the ult end this was a thing also with incinerate)

one thing about metal bat is that homeruns hitbox is literally bigger than the bat itself. (reserch)

Savage tornado is kinda nerfed well not really but you can dash out of it

Finaly, no tts, I CAN SUB NOW

The generation ender indeed

Players: how much hixbot u want for metal bat? Dev: Yes

i always question on discord how to counter metal bat ult and the staff said "get near them and m1" i mean it kinda good but they use skill out of dash range and side dash......

They could make savage tornado countarable like we saw in the anime garou counter it

the savage tornado should be diverted with the danger of garou prey like in the anime

Issues for me : The range from homerun grand slam AND Beatdown have like 100 times the hitbox The low cooldowns (cd) The spammers that say "ez" Literally everything plus ult

tbh metal bats base moveset was very punishable if missed his ult deserves its strength but yea savage tornado should get just less aoe bro sonics side dashes in ult needs a nerf u cant hit them bc they keep spam dash

5:27 give it more startup, make it slower, lower damage, higher cooldown. Pick two and I’ll be satisfied.

@aziatouchsilent8507

6 ай бұрын

Literally give most of his moves have lower radius and he's balanced

0:17 im probably incredibly stupid but what was the specific nerf

Tbh savage tornado should move slower at 3rd wave And grand slam should be blockable

I was watching this for one reason to see what was the buffs but the VOICE I'm wondering if i should be a Hero hunter main or A Bald hero main?

Suggestion, Allow Metal bat's deathblow be countered by deathcounter [there is actually a concept video of that which is why i like it. And i still believe death counter > Death blow]

I now this combo when metal bat came out💀

Bro wining is perfect

did u know u can cancel metal bats death counter by uesing hunters grasp and hiting the person with the person u used it on

all you need to do to beat metal bat ult is bait death blow and rushdown so they cant get their moves out. this works because tornado and brutal beatdown can both be cancelled if ur quick.

@aziatouchsilent8507

6 ай бұрын

Yeah if youre like, kissing them after all those moves😭 There is absolutely no way you can still cancel his moves after getting destroyed by the damn death blow AND STILL get close enough to cancel it

@heehee704

6 ай бұрын

@@aziatouchsilent8507 it is a little tricky but possible especially if they use strength diff first

@joel784

6 ай бұрын

​@@heehee704the problem is no one uses strength difference first

@joel784

6 ай бұрын

​@@heehee704And even if you bait death blow the second backuo variant does half ur hp

I was like tf? When someone kept going through my blocks with foul ball

I feel u

LOL the generation ender

Another nerf metal bat should get is that strength difference should get a damage nerf the fact that you can just do 4 m1s into savage tornado to strength difference for it being one shot is insane

overpowered metal bat ult battlegrounds

I swear I'm a god at dodging but savage tornado just the hit box is too bug j cant eventually sometimes when u get hit by savage tornado u can ragdol cancel the part when it flings u then he just uses brutal beat down dude I need the front and side dashes to not get hut by the brutal beat down I can't escape it

They need to nurf metal death blow varient so death counter can beat it cause there's no way a weapon can beat a technice

The only annoying thing in tsbg is atomic samurai,srsly its like the new sonic and i cant choose him BECAUSE I DONT HAVE EARLY ACCESS

its fun to slam people with the crushed rock thing

I guess they love metal bat and garou

Why the actual hell did the devs think it would be ok to buff metal bat?

Fun fact timing it right you can hit someone who is doing grand slam with grand slam

most of the characters are broken and/or have glitches that make doing combos impossible. There are so many glitches and power scaling is pretty bad since there are so many true combos + too many i frames

Where do you get the update information

Another nerf metal bat needs is a new passive, my idea of a new passive is metal bat doing more damage the less health he has. They’re probably not gonna do this though..

@krillissues

6 ай бұрын

Fr metal bats fighting spirit power is just ultra ego Walmart version

@bobbywalls1239

6 ай бұрын

thats a buff lol

If you get thrown up in the sky by Savage tornado you can dash out of it

You need an editor my man?

I predicted the foul ball buff, my friend was over and I told him: I have a feeling foul ball won’t be blockable, I will predict this. And now what 🙂

I swear if metal bat doesn't get a very good nerf soon I will KYS , we had the same problem with sonic now metal bat

metal bat needs slower cooldowns, shorter range, lower dmg and short time ult like 20 seconds and thats it (my only idea)

@RemieGeming

6 ай бұрын

20 seconds is too low You can only use 1-2 moves before the ult even ends Even genos ult Is longer than that

garou crushed rock changes - (in the past year) -they changed the old move which was similar to prey’s peril.- (cant remember the name) -it was then used for I-Frames since it was just op- -finisher was added- -they then decided to nerf the move, and made it have zero I-Frames. -the move would ONLY have I-Frames once you hit someone with it. -current changes -rock splitting fist is now better used for I-Frames. -crushed rock now uses the finisher of that move, which means the finisher is now the normal version of it. (which does 26 damage) in this case, garou has a bunch more nerfs than the other characters as of now. metal bat is now the most OP character (besides the strongest hero) garou now has a bunch more non I-Frames ultimate moves.

@spectrumite

6 ай бұрын

you mean the move doomed prey

@cw_fighter

6 ай бұрын

ah yes that