Thanks for your review. I opted for Assioma duo's after watching your review and very happy with them. Their support team is awesome.

Shane, I solved my problems by taking the batteries out after each ride! This is a small pain, but they have worked 100% since doing it. Thanks for doing such good and thorough work, I appreciate your channel!

Really enjoy your videos! Thanks for all your work.

I have a pair of vector 3s and they have been brilliant from day one. It did come after the battery cover incident. Had them for a few months. Been perfect. No need to torque, just screw in and use.

Love my assioma's! Best purchase ever!

Thanks Shane. No problems with mine from day 1 last December. I followed all the drama in forums, but never materialised for me. I think QC problem as didn't affect everyone and happy consumers are usually quiet. Lot of money for all these issues for some people though.

Higher resolution? Your outdoor shots look crispy. Once again as always, nice depth and follow through.

Still at least some minor problems it seems. Thank you for the follow up. Placed an order on the assioma and looking forward for them to implement cycling dynamics :)

Great video. Production on point! Subscribed.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob.

Good work, hope Garmin take note.

Thank you for your information.I do clear what I should buy in the future.

Thanks GP, duo's for me 🤙

Nice one, bud! I bought my V3 dual a month ago, thankfully these were the 'revised' model door, updated firmware. Worked great, usual bedding in, offset, etc.. all good.. That is until i replaced the batteries. Like you, rabbit hole ensued. Power spikes and drop outs all the time. Infrequent and sporadic drop outs between different platforms. Loads of support tickets. Really, checked batteries, ensured the doors weren't too tight. Still dropped out. Removal of all wifi and BT interferance (as much as I could) - no joy. Started to really dig into the forums from past V3 - surely, it's not the same problem?!! Battery doors are the updated version, firmware updated... Let's check the LR44 batteries - little black spot on them!! Oil applied as per advice. No issues since. I wonder, and these are ebay batteries (albeit duracell), that inferior batteries are susceptible to fretting. A few of the folk in Garmin forums have really geeked out, measuring current etc and identified the CR1/3N as being a compatible and superior battery. 1- one singular battery that's not shaking around encouraging fretting and 2 - Lithium. I don't claim to know a thing about this, but the issue regarding fretting as been resolved. Word to the wise, even the updated pedals are prone to drop outs without the precautions. Finally, thanks for the comparison. I tried in vain to compare the Neo with V3 and even used Ray's analysis - nope, couldn't get it right. But more recently, i'm seeing almost like for like on Neo - Trainerroad and Garmin on Bolt or zwift. Your tests have validated it, mate. A huge thank you bud! Next step is to get Zwift to offer power meter calibration/off set, in session. I've put a Zwift feature request on the forum - please all, vote for it :)

@ianscholes4257

5 жыл бұрын

All about the Cadence are you saying that applying the oil sorted it. I’ve been getting really frustrating drop out.

@sbr345

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe Garmin is still using the same battery compartment system that was creating so many problems on V1 and V2, unbelievable. They must have some really incompetent product and quality managers there. I returned my Vector2 already 2 times and still not working, straight from the factory. A lot of frustration... no fun at all.

@loulew07

3 жыл бұрын

@@sbr345 So what about the Vector 3 , seeing your post here in 2020 makes me think twice on getting those for a new TT bike

Awesome Shane. Keep the rubber side down

I was having power spikes from switching from bike to bike but I realised that you have to calibrate them a few times after a sprint. If you leave them on one bike only you have no problems

I have been using the Garmin Vector 3 pedals since last December. Have been flawless from day 1. I did switch to the single Duracell Lithium battery early on.

@luketoms6110

5 жыл бұрын

Hi what type of battery is this as being looking for this.

@Wilhuff_T

5 жыл бұрын

CR1/3n 3v battery

@luketoms6110

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wilhuff_T not cheap are they do these last longer.

the way you calibrate your pedals with those static weight test blows my mind

Wish I had the same luck after the battery door upgrade, dropouts etc for two new sets of LR44s after an initial perfect period (~50hrs post door upgrade). So, I took online advice and placed a sliver of cork under the positive contact and oiled each battery face on fitting. I also had to replace the fragile yellow o-ring as it broke in the process. As Shane says "Happy Dayz" now. I only have the 3S, and when working are a good tool, however I've never had a cycling accessory cause me so much angst and frustration. I can only imagine how life has been for many a dual Vector 3 customer. Garmin needs to lift its game, really the marketing guys had this out too soon before I'm sure the engineers were ready!

Another great data heavy vid. btw, have you noticed any difference in the feel from zwift depending on the connected sensors? I have a Gen1 Neo and I think there is a difference for the better when I tell zwift to read my bikes cadence sensor.

This video has great timing. I sent my original Vector 3 Pedals back to Garmin a month ago because there was separation at the spindle, along with power spikes and drop outs, even with new battery doors and all bulletins applied. They sent me a new pair and it was fine for about 30 hours ... then same thing AGAIN. Power spikes and dropouts are back on this new pair. Sounds like I really need to apply baby oil to batteries, use cork, or something else to make a $1,000 product work. Damn.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

If you want to cut the rope and get a refund, look at the Assioma Duo as replacements. A lot less hassles.

@Khatsalano

5 жыл бұрын

Shane Miller - GPLama Thanks, Shane. A friend just did the same thing. I’m a fan of the form factor and look of the Vector pedals over the Assiomas, but they aren’t very useful if they don’t transmit watts!

I had so many issues with the vectors (1 and 2) that after awhile even though they seemed to be working "fine" I didn't trust the data... Assioma: spot on every time all the time.

I've owned many Garmin products over the years. Garmin in a word, is wonky. But when they work they are great.

Thanks so much for such an intensive review. Power meters are expensive, so I really want to know what I'm buying. At this point I think just updating my bike computer, speed sensor, and adding a cadence sensor will be my limit. Will need to do a lot more ride analysis before I get serious about a power meter.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

There's a few cheaper options out there that work pretty well for entry level units. Stages, 4iiii, InPeak, all make single LEFT side cranks which are 1/2 the price of these dual sided Vector pedals.

My Vector 3 pedals have had string of issues - even after the battery doors were replaced by Garmin. There appears to be fretting around the battery contacts. I keep cleaning the contacts and replacing the batteries but the problems persist. It may be that I do a lot of kms (6,000kms this year, almost all with the Vector 3 pedals attached). I wish I had purchased the Favero Assioma pedals instead.

Assioma's for me. Zero problems and power matches my 4iiii power meter.

@raphaeltiziani7476

5 жыл бұрын

And they cost less.

@austincaley5007

5 жыл бұрын

I've got 4iiii and am thinking to move to the Assioma's so that's good to hear.

@nigeljohnston9751

5 жыл бұрын

@Hans Thanks for your comments. I am comparing which to buy - Vector 3 or Assioma?

Love my Assioma Duos. Best investment I've made in a while. Just can't seem to get my L/R balance sorted...it's always saying I'm left side dominate.

@asgerhj754

5 жыл бұрын

I believe there's consensus "out there" that up to a 2% difference is normal, and shouldn't call for any action, as addressing the imbalance could actually prove counter productive... If more than 2%, maybe go see a bike fitter with a good understanding of physiotherapy.

1100 WATTS ... Damn that is one FAST Llama!

i had a replacement set for mine, ended up not being able to connect right out of the box! sent them back to garmin for a refund, honestly very disappointed with my vectors. Waiting for my custom 4iiii PM to be installed on my bike next week!

Hi Shane. Love your videos! They've helped me make some great purchasing decisions! Do you think the "stiffness" (ie the pedals don't spin freely) in the Vector 3 adversely impacts/degrades pedaling power output? Seems to me it's a point of unwanted friction - or is a part of how the power meter is supposed to work? Thank you.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Garmin have been quoted (somewhere, I can't recall where) that it costs a watt or so on each pedal.... so yeah, it's friction that costs energy. It's due to their waterproofing. They might free up a little more after a few 1000km

@garrywilliams9513

4 жыл бұрын

​@@gplama Thanks, Shane. Every watt counts for me so just have to keep on working that little bit harder! Cheers!

Good to hear the final chapter in the story is a positive one. Are you going to leave them on?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

They'll stay on the bike for now.

Thanks Shane. I've watched this a few times. But having broken my pedal second pod on my original Vectors I think I'm going to replace with either these or the Assioma Uno. (fortunately after extensive use of the Wattbike I am lucky enough to have 50-50 power even when fatigued) These get such a bad rep - but you and Ray seem happy now after the false start. And in the UK they are £389 v £449 for the Assioma's. So I guess I'd love your view on the two and whether I'm mad to have ordered a pair of the V3 based on the pricing and the fact they seem to have sorted the issues. Thanks in advance.

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Get the Assioma.

My vector 2 stays 15-20 watts below Tacx Neo's reading. Why do you think that is?

happy days

Always the way with garmin, beta test on the consumer. Never buy a first release Garmin. I bought the vector 2s just as the noise was about the vector 3 dropping. No probs with the vector 2. Work fantastic, also same with the superseded radar. But I have had big probs with their head units so now own a wahoo.

HI, last Sunday my Vector3, already replaced within 1-month use, stooped being recognized during the last half of Lisboa Granfondo ... annoying and frustrating. BTW, what software do you use to compare the power curves of the several devices ?? I would like to do so for the Vector's and the Neo2. Thanks for all of your useful info and videos.

Thanks to this video, the next person I see irl who says "happy days" is getting a slap

@gplama

2 жыл бұрын

HAPPY DAYS! (ducks for cover!) ;)

Hello from Toronto, Just a question. Would you sell them for a discounted price since you just let them sit (for six months)? Thanks!

Does the vector 3 upgrade pedal work alone as a "right-only" power meter?

Hmm. I wonder when wahoo will make a power meter.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Their recent partnership-ish-thing with Pioneer indicates they're interested in power... not sure they'll make their own though.

Shane Miller - GPLama so the conclusion for all your tests is after a hard effort the Vector might need recalibration? what about the power differences in ERG mode when the cadence varies? do you still seeing this issue?

Have you heard of other units reporting this bedding in process? The beauty of your process is that you're seeing the issue live and can re-zero where I suspect average Joe wouldn't have such a regime and would most likely bed in and account for it in pre ride calibration regime. I'll be interested to see if after a period of use whether the seperation reoccurs if if it's now been addressed.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

In theory all systems will have a small amount of bedding in. Spiders/Chainrings. Pedals/bearings/tightness. The average Joe is up shit creek to be honest. They have to trust in what they're seeing. I'd never rely on a power meter that hasn't been tested against a known/good source.

I've had two pairs of Garmin Vector 3 (left and right power meters). I've tried all the service bulletins, including adding baby oil to the battery contacts every time I change them ... I can't make this up. Garmin has warranty replaced the battery doors, and again, the entire pedal set with the newer version. Still, the power drop outs/disconnects continue. It seems this is a design defect where the batteries still jiggle inside the pedal and causes power disconnects, especially from the right-to-left pedal Bluetooth bridge. You can solve this by permanently disabling the right pedal and use the left one on ANT+ only, but then you just paid $999 for a very heavy paperweight. Garmin refused to give me a refund, even after the second pair of warranty pedals kept disconnecting. I got the Assiomas and they are not only cheaper, but they are lighter, made better, look good, spin far more smoothly (the Garmin Vector 3 pedals spin like there is glue inside), and basically just work. Shane's videos are on point.

Gday Shane, long time fan! Just wondering if you've received any update from Garmin on the right pedal under-reporting. I've just received my service replacement vector 3 after my vector 2's were having battery issues (paid $144 for the replacement, only thing that stopped me from buying a pair of assiomas outright), with the new battery caps, firmware update, and can verify that all the prior issues have been fixed (power spikes, dropouts etc)

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Garmin want to have a closer look at my pedals on their calibration rig. I'll get back to this one day... all while the Assioma are working, accurate, and causing no problems.

Shane, I’m getting around a +3 or 4 PCO reading on the left side and -5 or -6 on the right side. Before I embark on trying to fix my dynamics, did you test multiple pairs of these petals to check for consistent readings across the pairs?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I can't justify purchasing multiple pairs. One thing to be aware of (having thought more about this recently) is that perfect symmetry might not be optimal. A professional bike fitter should be able to get you in an optimal position - where a non zero PCO might be best.

Shane and all, great group...I am new to power pedals and like the Garmin Vector 3. I found them for a great price, but now I am concerned that the discount is due to new release.... Do any of you know if version 4 is at work? How often garmin releases new products? The Vector 3 is at least 3 years old. Any insights?

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Any breaking news/etc isn’t going to be in comment sections here.

All I want for Christmas is Garmin Vector 3s?

@vincentcampagna3254

5 жыл бұрын

I got these since March and its the best power meter in my opinion. The probleme that most people had with the battery is only with the dual sided version the 3S is really good, look nice, good pedal with good power transfer, easy to switch from a bike to a other, you don't need anything else ;)

Had you removed and remounted the pedals between test 1 and 2 to cause the offset? Or did you go from test 1 to 2 without removing pedals and they weirdly needed calibrating again? I find my P1 pedals can sometimes be 200w off (reading 10w when cruising around 200w) when I transfer them from bike to bike, where i'll ride for 10 minutes and then zero them and all is then (presumably) happy days.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

No, they stayed on the bike. There's a lot more I want to do/test, but there's only 24hrs in a day (+/- 1hr depending on daylight saving)

I gave up on my Vector 3 pedals. They worked well for two weeks then it all went south. They were under reading massively, >20%. I stopped and calibrated them which worked for a few minutes of steady state riding before under reading again. I did all the usual, new batteries etc like Shane recommends but to no avail. I can only conclude there is something catastrophically amiss with Garmin's QA/QC that means although this is potentially a good product its unreliable. I bought mine in mid 2018, in the hope all the problems had been ironed out.

@robertg.5932

5 жыл бұрын

Have you tried cr 1/3n batteries? They are better and last much longer.

@tdav1768

5 жыл бұрын

The batteries made no difference. Pedals have now gone back to garmin.

Good review Shane! Have you ever tested the Vector 3 with Wahoo ELEMNT computer? Do they talk nicely? Functionality is OK?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, no drama. The Element/BOLT doesn't implement the Cycling Dynamics feature set though (as I understand). So you don't get that on those head units.

@riob6901

5 жыл бұрын

Fuad Nawawi I use the Vector3 with the Wahoo Elemnt Bolt and they work fine together

So is it safe to buy the right pedal now? I’ve had the vector 3S since August and no problems but I feel like if I get the right one I’ll have problems. Clipping in is so easy! 10 out of 10 for Hardware on these.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Not really my call to make. My 2nd set appear ok.

Thinking of power meters for my bike. Which is best in your opinion. Favero Assioma or Garmin Vector 3. Or are shimano going to join the pack any time soon. As i like the SPD- SL pedals and cleats.

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

Entirely your call what to buy. If Shimano make an SPD-SL power meter, you'll hear about it right away in a video (not tucked away in a comment reply).

What happens when you clip a pedal in a crit? goodbye Vectors... Stages for me been rock solid for years.

Shane..if you want to offload your vector let me know as I'm on the market for one

So far i have 300h on my vector3 without any problem...i dont understand why garmin doesnt support the cr 1/3n batteries which last much longer than the lr44/sr44 (mine 180h:120h)...the advantage of them is you just have to put one batterie in.

@chaosengine3772

5 жыл бұрын

Because if one or both pedals batteries died, 1/3Ns are not common like SR44s to find in a gas station or convenience store.. Unless a camera store was sitting next to them, you will have to mail order them.

@robertg.5932

5 жыл бұрын

My edge shows when the batteries are almost empty...then you have still about 10-15h left...in this veeery long time you have the possibility to buy new one in a store...bad argument.

@robertg.5932

5 жыл бұрын

You can always buy some in reserve where is the problem 🤔

Is this with the latest stages 1.3.0 firmware? Have a Stages g3 L, which is fine, and would like to upgrade to LR with the R crankset, but for the same price can get a pair of Assiomas. Need to trust the data,

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, 1.3.0. The Stages LR on my bike is still in 'wtf is going on, Stages, please explain this' stage. I'm sending them the data. It looks so similar to the Watteam G3 Dual rabbit hole I went down (if you've seen that video). Once I have an answer, or simply give up trying to rule out myself as the problem I'll do a video on my LR experience to date.

Hi Shane, nice update video. Have you tried the Vector 3S? What is the difference between the 3 and 3S? Is the 3S a dual or single sided power meter?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

S is single sided.

@fariqazaha6321

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Miller - GPLama how is the accuracy? Is it comparable to, let‘s say, Stages left?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

@@fariqazaha6321 Same same, I assume.

@fariqazaha6321

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Miller - GPLama thanks Shane. I‘m 5'4", I‘m currently using 160mm cranks but there‘s virtually zero choice on crank based power meters. I don‘t want to spend a fortune on a pedal based PM too. Thought if the 3S fared well enough I might just get it

I have the PowerTap P1s on my spinning bike and the right pedal keeps dropping out on both Bluetooth and ANT+. When both pedals do work, the left-right balance is out. They are going back.

@dan110024

5 жыл бұрын

It might be an issue with your battery cap. I had the same problem for over a year until I found they had released new caps to fix the problem. Check the cap and look for a little number. My original ones were V1. The ones they sent me were V3. The cap was slightly too small for the batteries, causing the batteries to stick and not move freely for the spring to be able to push them against the contact in the pedal. The battery moves completely free in the V3 cap. Send Powertap an email and ask for them to send out new caps. They were going to get me to buy them but I said it should be a warranty issue and they sent them for free.

@dpstrial

5 жыл бұрын

@@dan110024, I thank you for your reply. The number on my battery caps is "V3". I will do a balance test on them with a container of water hanging from each pedal. Of all the various power-meter systems available the pedal ones are the least reliable, according to most of the reviews I have read. If my indoor exercise bike had normal crank arms, I would have bought a Stages or a 4iiii.

I just bought the Vector 3S version and I don't really know if the reading is accurate compared with my Tacx Vortex trainer. I calibrated the trainer and using the Tacx Testing Dashboard utility from their iOS app Tacx says that at 30km/h the power should be aprox 130W, but it displays 150W and the Vector 3S 170W. What should I do? After 1h ride on Zwift the difference in power between Vortex and Vector 3S is aprox 20-25W.

@asgerhj754

5 жыл бұрын

As the Vortex is a tyre-on trainer, there are quite a few variables that can affect the reported watts. I would trust the Vector pedal.

Good follow up ? Are all pedal based powermeters just Look compatible ? What about those of use using Shimano cleats ?

@aerobrain2001

5 жыл бұрын

Vector 2 had a Shimano pedal body option. Not sure if you can buy it in that state or if the only option was to buy the unit and then the replacement pedal body though.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I keep asking the companies to make an SPD-SL one... I love Shimano pedals + blue cleats.

Power meter calculation with bike trailer , plus back pack , etc ( do I need to add these .

@gplama

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you're asking? These measure force on the pedals regardless of having a bike trailer or additional weight.

Shouldn’t the pedal power meter give you a faster read then the crank power meter because it connected below your foot

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Not noticeable over ANT+ or BLE, and not when the crank and pedal are directly connected. Drivetrain May introduce a millisecond or so? (Total guess, but there’s no torque lag between them)

I thought I was the only one going through the drop out frustration. It works, it doesn’t the thing can’t work for 20 minutes in a row without dropping out. Of course this happened after I changed the batteries, not the first time but for some reason now these pedals are horrible. Honestly I am tired of being a Garmin beta tester. Going to retire these and buy a pair fo Assiomas

Heya Shane, Garmin have sent out a new Vector 3 battery door & holder upgrade free. I have fitted mine but Im left with 2 rubber washers that dont seem to have any purpose, have you fitted your yet?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t have them yet sorry. Soon I hope.

shane if you could only keep these or the assiomas,which would you keep?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

It's say they remain rock solid with the numbers - either. The rechargeable batteries in the Assioma are nice. The look of the Vector 3 wins points for me.

Hi Shane, Do you think I use only one Garmin 3s pedal? (I only have the right pedal). If so, How can I set it up? Thank you!

@gplama

3 жыл бұрын

This is one for Garmin Support. I can't recall if you can split them and use the right only.

No issues here with mine, I have issues with Zwift though. For some reason Zwift hates them. Running side by side with Garmin edge, the Garmin device reports perfect power with 0 drop outs. Zwift however contains dropouts every now and then and you see your character stop in game, not great during a race... Zwift Data does not match Garmin.

will do you publish iq2 power meter test ride video ?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

For sure.

which application do you use to compare multiple power data from different power meters and be able to have the graphical representation like you did in this video?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Here's what you're after: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJycx6aFiLWzZ6w.html

@Fazaian726

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks

My Garmin Vector 3s came dead on arrival...

Off topic slightly.. but I know you’ll have the answer.. what happens if my tacx neo 2 is paired to my edge 530 in addition to my vector pedals (or assioma’s).. which source of power will edge use? My neo is registered as a smart trainer only, and not as “sensors”.. I’m sure you’re familiar with how garmin separated smart trainers away from the sensors menu. Thanks in advance!!

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

That depends how it's paired. If it's paired as a 'Smart Trainer' then I'll assume it'll take power from the Neo. I don't believe Garmin Edge units will do power match. One for the Garmin Support forums to be 100%

@ajconnol1

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Miller - GPLama I tried to unpair the neo but my edge endlessly asks me to pair it afterwards. Any idea how to make that stop? :p

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

@@ajconnol1 The new Edge firmwares should stop that from popping up. (although that feature might still be in the beta stream)

Do you still wrap tape or put any baby oil on the batteries when you change them or just put them in as is? I’m still getting the odd drop out and spike with the new doors

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Baby oil.

@stephenbetley9596

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama What is this witchcraft! :)

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

@@stephenbetley9596 You never know when you'll need emergency baby oil for an impromptu roadside rubdown. Best to put some on the Vector 3 batteries incase the situation presents itself. Always be ready. #shitadvice

@gearathon

5 жыл бұрын

Sheesh Garmin, rub it in again 😉

Do they work nicely with the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

What do you recommend as the best pedal power meter? Garmin Vector 3 or Assioma Favero?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

The Assioma are cheaper. Your call on what to buy.

@nigeljohnston9751

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Price aside, how would you rank Vector 3, Assioma's and Powertap P1 based on performance and reliability.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

They’re all reliable sources of power. It’s too hard to rank them and tell people what to buy. That’s up to the sales departments. It’s like asking what car to buy. What car not to buy is an easier question.

@nigeljohnston9751

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama I understand. I might go the Assioma's - $999 for the duos from Bike Bug. Thanks for your videos - I find them very helpful and informative.

How are the vector 3s going? Any drop outs or other issues?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

They've been fine when they're on the bike. They've taken a back seat (well, shelf) to the Assioma DUO which are on the bike more due to 'just working' and having the same cleats as the P1/P2.

When did you get replacements for your battery caps? I asked for them back in March of 2018 and heard nothing back, even after continuously following up in the USA and Singapore. They just told me to send them to service. That pisses me off because I also see that they were selling them as accessories while not even responding to my request to find out if the service center had the doors in stock before I sent the pedals in.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

Sorted when I raised a support ticket with Garmin Australia.

@indonesiaamerica7050

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Did they ship the parts to you or did you have to send your pedals to them?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

They sent the caps in the mail.

@indonesiaamerica7050

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Thanks for the info.

I want to have an spd-sl version. Do they plan to support it in near future?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

I hope so!

@bene3445

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama That would be awesome, otherwise I have to switch pedal system. Do you know why there is not any spd-sl power pedal?

@lyrictenor1

5 жыл бұрын

@bene If you want one now, Garmin makes an Ultrgra SPD-SL conversion kit, but for the Vector 2. I've had the Vector 2 for almost three years now, and ran it for a year with the stock pedals, and then have run it for a year and change with the Ultegra conversion, amd it works well!

Hi Shane, what is Q factor? Measured in mm?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

53 mm/55 mm with supplied spacing washer

Hey! Do you think it would be safe using this power meter for races? Would they break in a crash?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

Sure. Everything can break in a crash, even bones.

@loicolivier7481

4 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Yep but I mean is it worth spending 1000$ on pedals knowing I will use them for races? Is it really likely they will break or they are robust enough?

@gplama

4 жыл бұрын

@@loicolivier7481 They're robust. If you crash, on any power meter, it'll likely screw it. There's no good answer here sorry.

I’m suffering with 100% spikes in left and right power balance on my dual pedals. It’s doing my head in. Any ideas?

@gplama

19 күн бұрын

Uninstall, reinstall, reset install angles and calibrate with an Edge GPS. If they’re still causing issues, Garmin Support.

@jimkarthauser

19 күн бұрын

@@gplama what a privilege to get a reply from the man himself! These are a replacement warranty pair from Garmin and they are doing the same as the old pair. I’ll go back to Garmin. The pair they replaced were giving 100% L spikes and this pair are doing the same but L and R. Well annoying.

@jimkarthauser

12 күн бұрын

@@gplama They've sent another warranty pair and they have the same 100% spikes, so that's 3 pairs I have used that have the same issue :(

Shane for a while I've been wondering why you and for that matter @dcrainmaker dont use a simple t-test to test the hypotheses that difference in wattage readings between one power meter and another are statistically significant. It's a question that's been on my mind for a while, I know a picture speak a thousand words and Ray's tool is amazing, but this could give more meat to your results.

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

The DCR Analyser is all I need at this point to know myself if something is up/down/screwy. If there's demand for more accurate data or results, then maybe we can look into something more complex. Ideally the 'industry' will find a solution that'll prove their products are as they say they are.... accurate and reliable.

@fbaqueda

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama thanks for the reply and I get where you are coming from. But to be honest my suggestion is not at all more complicated in fact it's built into excel and a few clicks away. My suggestion was born out of curiosity as well as a consumer who values your opinion as well as that of @DCrainmaker, heck I bought the Vector 3 and Hunt Wheels based on your reviews and that of rainmaker. The pedals fantastic, but you made me do my own testing after your troubles and thankfully no issues what so ever. But like it or not you (and others) are now providing independent third party validation to products and you are an influencer, at both industry and consumer level. So, increasing the robustness of your testing protocols --I think-- only helps increase the robust credibility of your work. Maybe it's the statistician/economist in me who drools over the long timeseries generated by power files. Anyhow keep up the great work.

Shane do you recommend doing a warm calibration (after few minutes of ride)? Do you think calibration at the beginning of an activity would give good numbers? (Garmin headunit is asking about calibration at the start of a ride).

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

If there’s a major temperature differential yes. But it’s still a pain in the arse when you just want to ride and not piss about with $$$$$$$ power meters to get accurate numbers. IMO.

@JacekThomann

5 жыл бұрын

@@gplama Imagine such a situation in the race.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Stopping and calibrating

Ha. 65535m ascent. That’s a familiar number :-)

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

hah! I didn't spot that. I'll have to look into that one.

Just buy a power2max no issues at all

Tour le tap for GP Lama?

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

L’Nope. L’Sheep patrol for days!

But what's the point of that? 😂 Hilarious.

@XBarFighterX

5 жыл бұрын

Since Shane lives in Australia upside down data must be crucial, right?

I bought these pedals and had them installed at my bike shop. They have been a disaster since day 1. It's annoying that after spending the money on these that I have to go through all of this. Can anyone talk about their experiences with customer service. I don't have the time or the want to take these things apart, wait for battery covers...etc. I'm in the middle of Ironman training and I haven't been able to send my coach any data because of the issues. I've spoken to others that have the Vector 3's and they said they've had no issues Has anyone received replacement pedals? Here are the issues I've experienced so far in only about 6 HRS of use. 1. Trying to pair with my Forerunner 935 - continuously searching for pedals 2. The right pedal not connecting at all 3. Inaccurate power (WAY OFF) 4. Power meter dropping in and out 5. Getting the "power meter battery low" message 6. Won't download the new software I'd really like to just get replacement pedals and not have to deal with taking these apart. I don't even have a pedal wrench!!

@gplama

5 жыл бұрын

If they're not doing what they say they should, you will be entitled to a refund.

The stiff axles thing makes me worry about what kind of people run this company.

Worst investment that i done in my entire live. 3th pair with problems, avoid at all coasts.

If only they used shimano cleats.

@brunobraganca5982

4 жыл бұрын

unfortunately shimano cleats are patented and they don't allow any other brand to use them

I got a replacement set and they are still shit..don't buy them