This is a great review Sir! I appreciate the data and honest review.

Use it in my Garage, Updated the firmware on the unit via USB cord to PC and the Garmin Express app. Also purchased a roll of metal tape and used a hole punch to create some small round stickers and apply them to various golf balls. Also put it on a stand to get at the correct level as the mat. Seems like a pretty good unit.

@GolfGuyReviews

4 ай бұрын

That's awesome, thanks for watching and sharing

Thanks for this review! It makes sense to me that if the R10 has trouble reading ball spin, the ball trajectory and distance will be suspect - but like you, what I really want at this stage is the club path, face to path, launch angle, etc. It sounds like in general you had good luck working with these numbers from the R10.

@GolfGuyReviews

3 ай бұрын

I’ve done some follow up testing with a trackman, testing bath regular and RCT balls. I made sure to really take my time lining up the R10, and calibrated it before use. The accuracy and consistency was much better, and the spin numbers really improved and were very close to the trackman with the rct balls, except for the driver which was still quite different. I will post the video soon, but in summary I’d say in perfect conditions, the R10 can be more reliable. The problem is, it’s not practical to compare it to a trackman every time, so it seems setting it up slightly wrong can have a huge impact on accuracy….but you’d never know for sure…which I find annoying. One thing of note, when comparing club head speed to the trackman, the R10 is incredibly accurate when set up and aligned correctly 👍

I have used the R10 for 5+ months both outside at the range and indoor at my local simulator (ION cameras and Full Swing system). The R10 is accurate to within 2-3 yards of the range markers and the trajectory is what I am seeing the ball do. Indoors, I’m accurate within 3-5 yds on short irons and within 5-8 with long irons/hybrids and driver) as compared to the Full Swing sim. Spin is within reason (300-500 rpm). Is it as accurate as a $10K system? No, it’s not. But I paid under $350 CAD on sale, not expecting it to put the Full Swing/ Trackman/ Foresight systems out of business. Is it accurate enough for me to gather valuable data for my sessions and figure out my stock yardages while having fun? Absolutely. I think your review was a little biased, expecting your un-calibrated R10 to be on-par with a Top Tracer system. PS- who says the Top Tracer is accurate? Did you calibrate it? Did the range you played out complete a calibration before you used it? Is it “accurate” because it’s expensive?…

@rickhunter6513

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, I have no issues with mine and does what it’s supposed to. Great for practice

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. To be fair I do acknowledge from the start and in my summary that the R10 is an entry level unit and I don’t expect perfection. I think I also say in the video that I’m not saying the top tracer is accurate, but because I could see where the ball landed and the shot shape with my own eyes, to me the top tracer was doing a better job, and the side by side figures show that. Given the Garmin app doesn’t tell me to calibrate the unit before using it, I’m not going to (I wasn’t aware that was a thing in my months of testing), so I feel happy I have given the R10 a fair test, and I’m happy with my conclusion. I didn’t have access to a trackman or gcquad, so I felt being able to compare the same shot against a top tracer, which many golfer have access to and be able to use as a pint of comparison, would be a unique way to give a review context.

@jeandorais4930

5 ай бұрын

@@GolfGuyReviews I have no issues with your findings- it's your review, you saw what you saw... my issue (if it is an issue) is the title of your video review- I contend that the R10 didn't get destroyed, it did it's thing and did it adequately for the price point. If it had been a GC Quad, or GC Hawk and the results were not within the margin of error, then absolutely saying it was destroyed would be accurate. $500 device vs $10K (ish?) device, is not really a fair side-by-side...

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate what you’re saying and I’m considering alternative titles. I don’t want the title to be considered click bait, and you’re not the first to suggest as such for this video, which isn’t the norm for my channel. Thanks for taking the time 👍

@stevemobley4320

4 ай бұрын

​@GolfGuyReviews over 2 years with R10. Outside Range and into net. Last year, a garage setup. I have compared head to head with 4 different higher priced units. R10 not only held its own but in some aspects did better.....just saying...

Interesting video, the top tracer is systematically about 10% higher than the r10 which is what most expect to be the difference between premium balls and range balls - I wonder if maybe you’re recording the normalised top tracer values as these are made bigger and more obvious on the screen. It would perhaps explain this deviation.

Thank you for a great report, good objective information. I am most interest in observing the club head data, (speed, path angles etc) which the R10 seems to address. The CT10 sensors and the S62 watch I am using have been good so far, apart from the CT10 sensors always trying to un-screw themselves from the grips. Living on two 18 hole courses here in Australia and having a grass driving range there will be no net or internal use, the R10 seems to have relevant features for a keen amateur golfer at a reasonable price point. Again, thanks for a great report.

@GolfGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

Thanks Anthony. I released a follow up video last week after further use. I tested it against a trackman, and I tested the difference RCT balls make. I also tested clubhead speed tracking…and it did VERY well compared to the Trackman 👍

I went to the range. It definitely worked and showed all my bad shots. It works.

@GolfGuyReviews

3 ай бұрын

I’m doing some more testing, and have hired a trackman to…will post a link to my video and any change of thoughts 👍

Great review. I’d love to see you do a similar review of the rapsodo mlm 2 pro.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Carl 👍 I plan to test and review more launch monitors and the rapsodo is on the list 👍

Your outdoor session had the R10 at least 2” below the hitting mat. I’ve gotten much better results when the unit is level with the hitting mat. It’s why a bought the aftermarket stand with built in level. It needs to be level with the hitting surface for best results.

@GolfGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

I’ve done another test with the unit vs a trackman, using both regular and RCT balls. Conditions a lot more controlled. Will post it on Tuesday.

There are a bunch of videos on how to get more accurate data - change the altitude, use different balls etc etc (different software helps). honestly 2-3m in doors vs on the course won’t make huge difference to most people unless you are playing off a very very low handicap and you are very consistent- well if that’s the case then you know that you actually hit longer and can calibrate it properly. If you only swing a club once a month when you play or even every few weeks then hitting a ball a few times a week will help.

Guys, anyone have any good comparisons on the accuracy of the club path data? Thanks.

@GolfGuyReviews

4 ай бұрын

I just did a test vs a trackman …video coming soon

Have the R10 and I don't find it handy when I'm at the range, I use the target greens just to give me a feel for the swing requested for certain distances

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Cheers Danny…I’m guessing that should have said ‘do find it handy?

@DannyKelliher

5 ай бұрын

Yes yes it should😂

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

🤣👍

@DannyKelliher

5 ай бұрын

@@GolfGuyReviews could you share the link for the stand you had in the review

Looking at your swing the r10 was more accurate with distance than the top tracer. Any ideas?

@GolfGuyReviews

2 ай бұрын

I have a new video coming out int he next week or two where I compared the R10 with a Trackman in a far more controlled environment, both with and without RCT balls....results are interesting and have change my opinion somewhat of the R10

The r10 is probably the best money I have spent on golf. I’m lucky that my golf club has a large indoor net which is perfect. To get the most out of it you need to have it on the same level as the mat, your video looked like it was set on the floor. You also need to calibrate it every time, using awesome golf gives more accurate numbers, I’m also guessing you didn’t use the rct balls at the range as it would have cost a few quid. It has its limitations, however I used it mainly for speed training which has helped me a lot during winter months

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting Roddy 👍 Good spot on the unit being on the floor in the footage, I did use the stand I showed in my video during the test, I just didn’t get any footage of that 🤦‍♂️ but I didn’t calibrate it before use, I didn’t realise that was required / it doesn’t tell me to do it each time before using it in the app, so I’m putting that one on Garmin if it would have made a difference. You’re right, I didn’t use RCT balls in the comparison test, not going to waste those at the range, I don’t think anyone would do that. But you’re right, as I say in the video, it probably is the best value launch monitor in this price range, it shows the most data and is simple to use, and can be used to improve your game, I know it was factor in improving mine. I just wanted to highlight that the potential lack of consistent readings. I plan to try to conduct some more tests comparing several different units against each other 👍

@roddyglover

5 ай бұрын

@@GolfGuyReviews I have watched too many videos on this subject as people do struggle getting it set up correctly. Things I have learnt, better to have it too high than too low, 7ft behind is optimal, at least 12 foot to the hitting net. There is a chart online that shows the distance you have to be for swing speed and spin rates that allows it to track two complete revolutions of the ball. Interference from things like air con etc can cause issues, concrete floorings also seem to be a problem! It’s a good starter but it has given me the bug and would like to spend more money on a better system. We have actually got our club to agree to build more indoor nets as they have become so popular, it brings a good social side to things on winter nights and some good fun doing long drive comps!

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Interesting you say you want to upgrade after the R10 has given you the bug, as that’s something I reference in the video Really appreciate your feedback 👍

@roddyglover

5 ай бұрын

@@GolfGuyReviews my friend has a simulator called golfzon which is at the other end of the spectrum and has given me high end sim envy! I think sim golf will be massive going forward, the better the lower end monitors get the cheaper the higher end ones will have to become!

Did you try the image recording with andriod too? I'm concerned the video quality is the standard apple media downgrade when the other device isn't using ios.

@GolfGuyReviews

26 күн бұрын

Just my iPhone 11 I’m afraid

Good review. I have to say that if I have a choice of no data vs bad/misinformed data, i'll take No data thanks 😂 Any chance you can get hold of a Voice Caddy SC4 to try. I heard a couple good reviews about it.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thank you. Yes I've heard good things. Hoping to do some more Launch Monitor reviews on the channel, so hoping to pick one up and give it a try this year

Use the awesome app or E6 but set the altitude to 10000 ft and the distances are more accurate.

bought it and returned it within 2 weeks...maybe I had it set up wrong but I couldn't trust it.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

You're certainly not the only one.

R10 here and NO issues when I use awesome golf.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

That's great to hear! Thanks for watching and sharing :)

@usa4x4trucks

5 ай бұрын

I had issues with the Garmin App when I first bought my R10 in 2022. The numbers, hitting into a net, were about 10-15yds short using the Garmin App. I started using the Awesome Golf App and my distances were within 2-3yds of what the simulators at XGolf gave me. Not sure why there was a difference - maybe the Garmin App uses the collected data in a different way than Awesome Golf??? I had to adjust my height above sea level, humidity and temp to get the Garmin stock app to give me back believable numbers.

To really enjoy home tee hero courses and driving range, the R10 needs to show accurate carry distances for long irons, hybrids, fairway woods and driver. My normally 260-265 driver distance will show merely 210-215 yds. I'm hitting the RCT balls into my backyard 10' x 10' x10'00H caged net. I'm set up 4' ' back from cage opening. Even when I artificially set the elevation to 10,000 ft, the distances are still way off. I'm at 1280-ft natural elevation. I should not have to trick the unit to get real life distances. R10 software is updated. What can I do to get accurate data ? Try dissalointinh?

@GolfGuyReviews

28 күн бұрын

Sorry Pdawg, not got an answer for you on how to fix it. But I know you’re not alone with this kind of issue

Does it read swing speed without hitting a ball?

@GolfGuyReviews

2 ай бұрын

I’ve not tried. Will give it a go and let you know. What I can confirm is it’s VERY accurate at reading swing speed when compared to a trackman (video coming next week)

@flogrown4333

Ай бұрын

No, it doesn't

If you did not get within 2% accurate carry distances with higher priced unit. User error is the reason... I have hit thousands of balls and compared R10 to 3 different higher priced units...with carry R10 is accurate...

@GolfGuyReviews

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing. If that's the case, then my video highlights how easy it is for user error to have such a significant effect.

im assuming u turned off normalisation on the top tracer

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

I didn't change any setting on either, I set them up and started hitting shots as I normally would. I'm not sure if that means normalisation was on or off.

@jeremynewman2454

Ай бұрын

I agree, normalisation defaults to ON on top tracer, so top tracer was adding 10% to ball speed to accomodate for range ball compression. R10 would have been measuring actual ball flight. I’d put a comment on your video mate so you don’t give people a bum steer

Clearly the unit was not in level with the mat. Garmin instruct the bottom of the unit's tripod should be in level with the bottom of the ball. Also leveling it is preferable in my experience. And last, it's very important to calibrate the unit before every use (only takes about a minute). I'd encourage you to retest following this suggestions.

@GolfGuyReviews

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting Doug. I've done more thorough testing with a trackman and will putting out a follow up video shortly as I did see far more accurate numbers with the irons, using both regular and RCT balls...the driver was still a bit suspect, but the numbers were far more accurate than that I found in this video.

@basserbestt4063

Ай бұрын

This follow up comment should be pinned

Since we know it was a user error problem...a correction video is a must...only if you want to keep credibility..your choice.

@GolfGuyReviews

4 ай бұрын

Appreciate the comment and tone Steve 👍 I’m doing some more testing and considering doing a follow up. I’ll let you know when it’s posted 👍

I'll toss some of my Data Science background in here and say that if I can collect enough data between the R10 and an accurate system, I can average out the variance for each club and apply that number to the output displayed for a more accurate reading.

@GolfGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

I’ve posted a follow up video comparing against a trackman 👍

Top tracer is not accurate. I’m on the at 347 yard drive which is not, I’m more like 280 to 300.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with your assessment. Starting with the headline, it seems more like a clickbait to me. I have watched and read many reviews about the Garmin R10, and the inherited discrepancy you get is well outside the norm of the reviews I have seen and my personal experience with the R10. With this unit setup, calibration and ambient conditions should always be present. With the RCT ball, it is easier for the unit to calculate draws and fades so that you can forget about that in the range. The indoor distance and range distance were within the specifications and acceptable. I am working on a hook and distance, so my focus indoors is club path, face-to path, impact angle, and club speed, and these reflect my conditions very well, enough for me to see changes when trying to fix my issues. The inaccuracy can be fixed by logging and analyzing as much data as possible; I am talking months and years. Anyone who buys a unit like this because they are an avid golf player who has been at it for a long time or expects to be in the game for a long time.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thank you Enrique for watching and taking the time to share so much detail, I really appreciate it. I don’t feel the title is click bait, I was genuinely shocked at the difference in the data between the two when measuring the same shots, I even say it in the video and the explain why. I don’t disguise the fact the title and thumbnail is trying to induce people to watch my content, but I believe the content delivers on what the title and thumbnail are promising. And I’m certainly happy for viewers to disagree with what I say in my video, this is just my personal take on a product and I’ve shared some data that I have gathered. I’m happy with where I’ve landed with my overall review of the product. I don’t believe the R10 provides the level of consistency that some may expect. I used the unit for a lot of the summer and autumn…the difficulty is being able to verify how accurate that data is, even over the long term. I acknowledge the difference rct balls can make in the video, but i wasn’t prepared to purchase a box or two to then fire into a driving range. I feel it’s reasonable to judge the R10 on the conditions the manufacture suggests the unit can be operated in, with minimal additional expenditure. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment 👍

@enriquebruzual1702

5 ай бұрын

@@GolfGuyReviews Well, you changed the title after my post; it used to say, "Garmen R10 gets DESTROYED by A Top Tracer ...". As for my review, I am more than happy with it; I have read some of the other posts here, and they concur with my post. If the R10 wasn't set up correctly in your case, for you to say it got "DESTROYED." I find that troubling, although the video wasn't as critical as the original title, which is why I said it was clickbait. Again, based on the reviews I have read and my own experience with mine, the numbers fall within the parameters listed on the Garmin website. Thank you for your video 👍

@GolfGuyReviews

3 ай бұрын

@@enriquebruzual1702 I’ve done further testing against a trackman and will be posting the video asap 👍 in short it highlights how accurate the R10 can be when set up correctly and in perfect conditions…even then it struggled with the driver, but the numbers was a lot of closer that I thought they were going to be, especially when using the RCT balls

seem on sided. what basis was this compared to. a 3 way with a trackman will be more accurate. jsut because top racer gives you more yards, you nullify the R10. I guess someone needed their ego stroked. :)

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

I don’t need my ego stroked 👍 I highlighted general variation when comparing the r10 to top tracer. I didn’t have access to a trackman for this video, and I know many golfers do have access to a top tracer, so I thought it would be an interesting comparison. The benefit of the top tracer is I could see with my own eyes roughly where the ball was landing, and top tracer seemed to be better as confirming where the ball was actually landing

@saltyolive_

5 ай бұрын

The R10 requires proper alignment to get the best results. Compared to the trackman I find the results of distance spot on variance of 2m longer. I get left right issue of not aligned properly they are not accurate if you don't line them up. Amazon sell lots of jigs for it . Spins rate and even club path was surprisingly accurate that's said . What's the point of comparison if you can't benchmarked it with a golden standard writhing having an argument what shade of blue is the ocean

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback. Really appreciate it

Kev has an updated video kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5WE065tk7a2ps4.htmlsi=xz4209SNC223JyJT

@GolfGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

⬆️⬆️⬆️ 🙏

Great review! This one was not for me. It will take at least 7-8 ft from ball to unit or it just won't work. Anything around the unit (fan, books, metal, etc.), it will not work. Spin accuracy is totally incorrect. This is more of a kids game than anything else. Don't buy this for accuracy or to see the trajectory or curvature of your ball/shots. Even the accuracy in distance was "iffy". Not a terrible $500 toy though. Would I recommend it to my friends wanting to get better? Absolutely Not. Save your money and at least buy a skytrak.

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting Grunt 👍

Stop using the garmin app. That's where you're messing up at

@GolfGuyReviews

5 ай бұрын

Maybe, but that’s not how the unit is sold.

@23mondster

5 ай бұрын

Well do your research I'm pretty sure 99 percent of the users including myself do t use the garmin app. You're late to the party. Use the other apps do your testing you'll 100 percent get better results. We already know what the garmin app is capable of is all I'm saying

The R10 is FKING AWFUL! As somebody who works in tech, I have no idea how this thing ever made it to market. I have not had a single accurate shot reading since owning this device for about a month. I spend about 90% of the time screwing with the r10 due to not getting readings or disconnecting and having to restart a game and only about 20% Will it even record a shot and when it does it is 20 to 30 yards short and takes zero slicing and hooking into account.... It is a giant waste of money.....

@GolfGuyReviews

Ай бұрын

You’re certainly not the only one that feel this way about it