9:47 _"I think it's finally time to say goodbye to Kepler, altogether."_ Considering it's been almost 3 years since Kepler support was discontinued, likely Maxwell will be dropped any day now too. I half expected Jeff to stuff this thing with Pascal or higher. I just sold off a couple Maxwell based Quadro's before I expect their value to take a dip.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Pascal is in it now. Volta and Ampere on standby 😉

@KiraSlith

2 ай бұрын

Was thinking the same while Craft listed the cards off. Not to throw shade, but the Pascals really are the minimum I'd recommend for VDI tasks just as a matter of power and performance. Much like their consumer equivalents they're a quantum leap over their predecessors, so I'm glad he's stepping up to the Pascal cards for the next shoot out. From my experience as a budding CSE: The P40 is a VDI monster, with 24gb dividing neatly into 2x12gb, 4x6gb, or 8x3gb VMs. The P100 with it's 16gb of HBM2 is still a price/watt/performance monster for Blender or budget AI, It's VDI is faster too, but you waste VRAM in the process. The P4 is in practice a GTX 1070 with a 1080's die, absolutely stompy for a 75w half-height, but I've never tried it and Craft's last video on the P4 wasn't promising.

@xpatrikpvp

2 ай бұрын

Pascal support was already dropped in vGPU 17.0 so...

@Darkk6969

2 ай бұрын

One of the reasons why I only bought three Tesla P4 for my ProxMox servers. Might look into P40 depending on the benchmarks in the next video.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Pascal was 'just' dropped by v17.0. Still supported with the latest drivers from Nvidia (Desktop v535, GRID v16.4) as of 2 months ago.... Not exactly a deal breaker on a 7+ year old GPU.

I’m excited for the P version of this video as I feel that is the best spot right now

@edgecrush3r

2 ай бұрын

It would be awesome to see what a couple of P100 or P40 can do.

Happy to see the Tesla vGPU series is back! It has been my fav series in the past. This got me into so many discoveries in the past. It would be nice to see more detailed installation instructions as setup can be challenging

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

The easiest setup right now is running the vGPU Proxmox installation script here: github.com/wvthoog/proxmox-vgpu-installer It installs the vGPU unlock, I stalls drivers, and even sets up a virtual license server.

Good experiment setup. Love these proper benchmarks

Really looking Forward to the Pascal results. I have a p40 I haven't been able to test yet but am hoping I can make a low cost VDI server for small and low demand CAD clients.

I've been looking forward to this series! Thanks for the great content, Jeff!

Aside from gaming, Tesla P40s make for a cheap, though slow, but still useable alternative for hosting LLMs. 24GB VRAM helps.

@m0taboy

2 ай бұрын

True, plus they are guide cheap. Least compared to other options.

@chrisisasavage

2 ай бұрын

I have a rig setup like that with twp p40s. The issue is the FP16 performance is atrocious so its very slow to run those models. I've looked at p100s due to that but would have less vram but should be much faster.

@seansingh4421

2 ай бұрын

Unless your LLM inference framework requires newer CUDA libraries. Nvidia is a horrible POS for making older drivers not work properly with newer cuda libraries.

@POLARTTYRTM

2 ай бұрын

What makes memory usable in this case is the bit bus. Yeah you can allocate a lot of stuff to that memory but it doesn't help that much if the memory bus is not good.

Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the pascal results. Tesla P4 is a powerhouse of a LP gpu

Look forward to the P40 test as I have a couple of these in a X99 desktop board with E5-2597 V4. Mostly been playing with AI inference but spinning up some local cloud for older games seems like it could be interesting.

@Zeroduckies

2 ай бұрын

Let me know how it goes. I been thinking of getting some p40. How do you think it would do with local llama3 7b...

@timhanson3750

2 ай бұрын

​@@Zeroduckies P40 does not support FP16 "half precision" so I'd suggest looking instead at P100 16GB that does have hardware support of FP16

By default, the Frame Rate Limiter (FRL) is enabled for all GPUs (60FPS). The FRL is disabled when the vGPU scheduling behavior is changed from the default best-effort scheduler on GPUs that support alternative vGPU schedulers. The Tesla M10 is actually stronger than the GRID M40 by 20%-25%.

Good run through. Looking forward to the Pascal tests.

I'm actually doing something similar but a bit less technical. I plan on upgrading my powerful gaming PC so it can handle any game I want to play, but I have a pretty small office space and I don't want to play games in a sauna... so I'm going to put my gaming PC in my garage and use steam remote play to display the games off a smaller PC actually in my office. Your method seems to be quite a bit more compact than the 4U server chasis I found for my computer 😅. Also, during my testing to make sure my setup would work, I found that Steam Link (an older version of Steam remote play that you can install on Raspberry Pis) doesn't like AMD graphics cards. It works just fine with NVIDIA cards (I don't have any Intel cards to test) but AMD cards do not work well😅 I think it's an encoding issue. Awesome video by the way! Keep up the awesome work!

This server case is exactly what i need to replace my r720xd thats my cloud gaming rig right now. Im running a pair of M40 card setup for passthrough for myself and the step kid. And this was 100% a gaming video. And i understand and respect that. But while not for this, the k80 is still relevant. If you ever get into playing around with AI, toss a few in there if you have them laying around. Thanks for the instructions on that by the way, saved me alot of headaches. Also, i take my daily coffee with a roughly measured 2.5 floz of heavy/whipping cream into about 17 floz of bold coffee. Sometimes i even roast it myself with a cheap air popcorn machine (which you should check out by the way. Makes a terrible mess with the chaff, my wife eants to kill me when i do it indoors, so dont do it indoors)

To solve a previous delima about a z420 water cooler, you need to snip or cut the 5 pin plug-ins botton side and just slide it on the 6 pin cpu fan header starting on the top pin. I did it and it actually to my surprise works great. The 140w 6850k i7 I have never gets above 60°C on high end AAA games like Helldiver2 and usually runs in the 30-40°C range, where before it ran up tp 100°C and sometimes would crash while performance would drop off. Amazing all in one water cooler I must say.

Awesome video! I love the idea of a virtual gaming PC! On another note, can you do a super quick video breaking down the naming convention for Nvidia/AMD server cards? Specs aren’t usually too hard to find, but broad descriptions of series’s and product lines are extremely rare

16:40 Helldivers 2 is quite CPU heavy. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison: you're probably seeing the more modern 7840U cores pull ahead of the Broadwell cores, despite the Tesla GPUs being faster than 780M in GPU-bound scenarios.

@tonycrabtree3416

2 ай бұрын

My 9th gen i9 gets really toasty. I’m seriously thinking about converting to water cooling.

@Fusion05

27 күн бұрын

​@@tonycrabtree3416I've got a 5800x that I had to underclock just to keep temps low. Definitely considering water cooling in the future

I love my M40 even though I don't use it much anymore. I don't understand why the Pascal stuff hasn't really dropped much in price though. It seems like it's holding on for dear life.

@gacikpl

2 ай бұрын

AI homebrew/small bussines machines.

@oscarcharliezulu

2 ай бұрын

Agreed - AI given they have lots of memory - not fast but you can at least try out CUDA

@gacikpl

2 ай бұрын

@@oscarcharliezulu p40 24gb is now AI sweet spot, with good speed and go memory buffer for biger models..

@computersales

2 ай бұрын

@@gacikpl it is weird because the 24GB M40 isn't much more than the 12GB version. Although the MI25 has jumped in value for reasons that are beyond me. I felt bad about buying it for $65 then watching the price drop to $50. Now it is worth $140... 🤪

@ericspecullaas2841

2 ай бұрын

​@@gacikpl im going to be picking up 4 of them for a localhost model and for a device im developing

I'm rocking a Tesla p4 in my main desktop for playing games and vr games (works with quest 2) though I have an older driver so I can bypass the vgpu stuff.

For starters, love the testing it's good to have an idea where different cards land should anyone dive into this abyss. Interested in seeing a breakdown of sorts not only on how this compares to building/buying/supporting multiple desktop machines versus a single rack mounted server with VMs. As you mentioned towards the end there, power consumption against performance also plays a big part for some folks so trying to at least mention efficiency would be good to see as well. Most interested in changes across your setups from 8 VMs dropping down to maybe just 4 VMs or even 2 VMs on the simpler cards. What numbers might you see if you ran say two of the M40s for example with just two VMs running? But again, thanks for helping me consider something that been in mind for years, just not in patience, could I get the kids gaming with me without having to break the bank...

I would appreciate it if you added some highlights to your data grids when you call out specific results.

way back then in early 2000's 2010's, when I was younger I'd thinker quite a bit with virtual machines, trying new different systems, I flirted quite a lot with linux, and since gaming wasn't there at all yet, I wouldnt just leave windows and distro hop, as fun as it was I couldn't really do too much, it's crazy what you can do with virtualization nowadays!

Just hearing a TF2 Soldier Voice line at the start made me like the video

I think it could be nice to include the 780M in all of these bechmarks (or other integrated graphics) so that way there could be a baseline to compare all of these numbers to.

Noticing that most of these old compute cards are cheap due to new AI services not supporting the older cuda version. Triton server for example supports cuda 6 and newer (going off memory here), and the tesla m40 24gb is cuda 5.2 . Did learn this the hard way too since nvidia docs weren’t clear, so wasted money on a card

@AgentAsteriski

2 ай бұрын

Oof. Someone stopped me before I bought a card that couldn't support the version we were running(11), but you're right, they don't make it easy to understand which card supports what.

Have you looked at Hyper-V and it’s built in GPU partitioning that also works with consumer cards? I use it in my home server for various VMs running Plex, Frigate and one or two other video decoding/encoding activities. No special mods or drivers required and it works with both Windows and Linux VMs

Maxwell is not dead yet, it has D3D 12_1 support, and the lattest drivers still support them. U could still run fine any modern game with a GTX 980 Ti.

I can feel the power draw

With these being so cheap I am wondering if just using them for transcoding would be useful.

Definitely interested to see the Pascal version, as I happen to have one laying around. Not something I'd want to do personally, but it's fun to know I COULD... The question is, have you ever tried butter in your coffee in place of cream?

Maybe it could be good to also post hashcat benchmark for those cards and other that you are testing

great video.

Could you possibly make an updated video on getting these cards to pass through on Hyper-V in Server 2022? Or could you link a good guide online?

Now I want to see a 16 player classic deathmatch on one server! ;)

@KiraSlith

2 ай бұрын

You could probably get all 16 onto a pair of tesla P40s, since they scale to 8 3GB vGPUs with the unlock script. Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament both fly on even an 8800 GT, so it should lock-in at ~60 FPS across the board.

Would be interested in seeing that as a peertube server with multiple transcoder runners. How many h264 nvenc chips all up?

I think it would be a great idea to do a similar video with these cards in Machine learning, Deep learning, artificial intelligence.

Love your videos i got this server and some tesla p40s finaly got everything running is there anyway to do 144hz parsec streaming i cant find anything on it other than a dummy plug for consumer cards is there any other option since you cant plug anything into the tesla

I'm still trying to figure out what to do with the Tesla P4 I impulse bought for $50 a while back.. thought it could be useful for something eventually lol

If you dont mind my asking, What heatsinks did you use in your server? I was following along your build with the ESC 4000 g3, but I am unable to find any heatsinks to use in the system. It's the last step I need before I can boot the server and start on the software side lol

I would love to see some benchmarks for Ai/Stable Diffusion!

lol I was actually looking at these on eBay this morning and thinking about this exact question

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Wait for the Pascal benchmarks before buying 😉

Hi there, was anyone able to get the vGPU driver with virtual desktops to work with Linux guest VMs?

With the M60 would it be possible to use it for Jellyfin and then also a separate VM for Frigate and homeassistant?

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

I virtualized my Pc using hyper-V in one of your previous videos, but I am stuck running at 1080p on the hyper-V windows 11pc i am using via Parsec. How can i increase the host resolution to say 1440p or 4k ? this doesn't seem possible ;(

Is there anything I can do to calm the beast of fans in the server. I impulse bought one after the first video but I can't handle the noise and nowhere to move it

Just wanted to ask you to test the P4 when you said that it is up next, since my server only supports single-slot cards, thanks

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

The P4 is definitely in the lineup 😉

Would be nice to have some metrics while the game is running like cpu/gpu utilization, ram/vram usage and so on to better identify the bottleneck, maybe the cpu was pinned to 100% and can't keep up or viceversa

I suspect the issues with newer games stuttering on these older cards is because the drivers are not tuned to run said games since Nvidia have long-since ended support for cards of this kind of age.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Definitely.

@kevinerbs2778

2 ай бұрын

No finds this odd with DX12???? since was supposed to be a low-level A.P.I in which the driver wouldn't be a biggest part of it, yet it's the complete opposite of that????

The Nomad test whips my 1080ti down to the movie like 24fps...

Can the CPU low clock be the reason for the low 0,1% framerate?

Love the idea, I use parsec on my main rig to play games on the go, or to play on my living room TV. Having a server dedicated for game streaming would be pretty fire

i wish you would have tested the M10 just to see how (bad) it would perform

Any chance you'd try to create a DIY 8xP40 Server. I'm using a 4xP40 Server with an AMD7551p and 512gb of Ram for LLM Inference. Now that Llama 400b is upcoming I am wondering if I still could get some decent performance at 4bit with 8 or even 12 P40ties. Vram is just insanely expensive. Is there a better enterprise GPU than the P40 with the same amount or more Vram and at least the same performance, which does not cost 10x the price of a P40? 😅

Is that a Radeon VII in the background on your wall? Still rockin' one in my desktop after all these years.

@AlpineTheHusky

2 ай бұрын

Thats impressive. Not the "still using Radeon VII" but the "My Radeon VII is still working" part. I recommended them to a few friends and out of 5 cards only 2 are still working where one of them has been repaired. They are hella hardware unstable. But since yours is still running I doubt its gonna die any time soon

Few things to mention: 1. You should probably measure GPU and CPU utilisation, and CPU utilisation per-thread. Then it should be more clear if your low 0.1%s are because of CPU or GPU. 2. CPU is indeed way underpowered. Modern games can easily use 6 cores or more and therefore it is not a good idea of giving a VM less than that. I'm not sure why not to temporary give a VM way overpowered GPU and find sweet spot for the CPU in terms of cores/threads per VM, and then use that as a base.But overall even 3.6 GHz boost clock might not be enough. 3. Another important (for dual-VM tests) thing is PCIe locality. You should always ensure that you allocate VMs to the same CPU that have the PCIe Root Complex where your GPU plugged in. Otherwise you might expereice, let's say, not so great performance scaling because your other VM will need to go via UPI to another socket and you can easily saturate the link.

Would love it if you also did an ai benchmark on these cards

Craft computing for alcoholics/non drinkers, join me with a cup of coffee or tea! Enjoy your sobriety while also enjoying his content. Much love jeff!

0:36 DANG IT JEFF!..You flubbed your lines.. "But what is Cloud Gaming?" - Onlive, 2015

Strange one for you Jeff: I know there's no official drivers, do you know if there's a way to get Maxwell Tesla cards (M40 etc) running on Windows XP and/or Server 2003? I know you can get Titan X Maxwell and the like going with some driver mods, but I've never seen it attempted on the Tesla cards.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Nope. Not heard of anyone attempting to use Maxwell on XP.

@virtualtools_3021

2 ай бұрын

​@@CraftComputinggtx 960 works out of the box with xp, and simply adding the devixe ids of 970-quadro m6000 24gb gets em working. No idea on the tesla, though it would be pretty awesome especially for splittinf it up for multi vms

I love it......

I have never gotten Sunshine and Moonlight working together properly. Tried using it to play Halo Infinite over local LAN and it never really worked properly. It wouldn't take the inputs correctly, which made trying to aim in Halo impossible.

Hi i try my Nvidia Tesla P100 on my HPE DL380 Gen9 Server and folo both type Proxmox vGPU Installation Script & PolloLoco's vGPU Installation Guide. i still cant find my P100 Mapped Device and MDev Type gray out. i try Proxmox 7.4, 8.1 and 8.2 with Kernal 6.5 all fail no see Mapped Device.

What about SFF gpus? I’ve got a stack of 2U servers that have gtx750tis that I’m wanting to upgrade

Could some of the stutter be network bandwidth/stack? Is there any image compression from the VM to the client? Is the test repeatable on different client hardware? Sorry for the questions, but it's an interesting experiment that you're doing.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

The benchmark/frametime recording was happening locally on the virtual machine. Benchmarking the stream quality would be another metric entirely.

@alexkindl861

2 ай бұрын

@@CraftComputing Very sensible, thanks for the response

I run a dell poweredge r720. Have roughly 128gb ram. Right now 1x tesla p40. I want to get another card. You take these cards and try to split them up into multiple vm's. What about if you created a super vm for gaming on. Take 2 or more cards and pass their performance through to a single vm and give it a ton of system ram and a bulk of the cpu cores. Would that be possible?

You should test the tesla T4 and A2, I really want to see those low profile single slot cards

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

I've previously reviewed the A16, which is the A2 x4. Unfortunately, that one was a loaner, so I can't run it through my tests right now. But my T4 is in the server for the next round.

@lil.shaman6384

2 ай бұрын

@@CraftComputing oh I'm quite excited for the next one then, didn't see the a16 video I'm gana have to go back and find that though

I prefer the ML 350 G9 and the P40s (2) and the Optane advantage (P900PCIe-3.0).. If you are gonig to stream to a handheld.. well I'd be doing it at 720p (think band with through the cell services) and high frame fate is more important to a gamer than the resolution.

I feel the server cpu was really the limiting factor more than anything... 2.3 GHz isn't great 😢

Can I run Tesla on bluestack or ldplayer?

which one is for fighting, which one is for fun???

The only thing I can't seem to figure out is how to get access too moonlight/sunshine over the net. I can access it locally, but I'd love to let some chums game on my server.

@alexhawes6690

2 ай бұрын

I use ZeroTier for networking

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

You'll need to setup forward ports in your firewall to access over WAN. Or you can use Parsec, which handles connection via client apps that establish the connection outside of firewall rules.

VDI will cause issues with certain anti-cheat software. If you plan on playing online multiplayer with many new titles

What is the input lag? 😟

lol I love it.

How many Patriot burst SSD's you had die on you yet? (I've had a new one last only 2 days!)

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

Been running these 8 drives for ~18 months now. Zero failures. What are you running them on? What config? RAID?

I am just wondering how P40s would perform.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

You'll find out shortly.

Thanks for the video. Have a main desktop gaming pc running Linux mint pc specs 5800X 32gigs ram 6750xt. TV pc is a 6900HX with 680M 32gigs ddr5 5200 Linux mint os. Would like to stream games from the desttop pc to the tv pc what software would I use to do so. Oh I do not use steam have not purchased a game there for 10 years. Using Heroic games Launcher using my GOG or Epic games.

@gacikpl

2 ай бұрын

Probably parsec?

@felixcosty

2 ай бұрын

@@gacikpl is Parsec a program?

@gacikpl

2 ай бұрын

@@felixcosty yup for remote desktop with 3d and gpu acceleration.

@TekChris780

2 ай бұрын

Since your Desktop is running Linux, and you say you don't use Steam, you'll want to take a look at Sunshine which is actually what Jeff uses on his server. Unfortunately Parsec does not have a Linux Host application. Note that you can 100% create a Steam account for free and you can use Steam's game streaming to stream your non-steam games 100% free, however due to the way Linux Steam / Proton installs games it might be tricky to get that working properly.

Instead of giving each host a dedicated virtual hard drive, could you host your steam library on a NAS and share that with all 8? Are there any issues with that?

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

The issue is disk I/O if 8 clients are attempting to access the same data. VHDs on an array mean each host has a unique copy of their own data. Shared library means only one copy exists, creating a potential bottleneck. I've dealt with that many times in the past when building similar setups.

@bobbyLovesTech

2 ай бұрын

Hadn’t even thought of Disk I/O. Thanks for the reply - learned so much from your content 😌

@virtualtools_3021

2 ай бұрын

I installed my steam library on a FusionIO something pcie 3.0 x8 6.4TB ssd and enabled that new feature that lets you download games from local pc instead of steam servers, it works well with a 10gbit nic

Take a shot every time he says "GPU power is split dynamically". Got pretty drunk.

What about RDP?

Man wish the Tesla P4 was in this also.

@CraftComputing

Ай бұрын

:-) kzread.info/dash/bejne/fppqmbh6eMnNd6Q.html

Great, now i want to make a sports coat out of tin foil so i can go as full metal jacket for halloween

Unfortunately Kepler is the most recent Nvidia chipset still supported by Apple.

I work with someone that is getting 2 K80s in a GPU server for fairly cheap but wants to use it for AI/ML I told them it is horrible idea to use a card that old for something that will probably max those cards out all the time using them and aren't going to be any bit efficient compared to something even slightly newer.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

At least upgrade to the M60... they're super cheap, and supported by much more modern software (both vGPU/GRID and CUDA).

@jasonscherer2631

2 ай бұрын

@@CraftComputing that’s what I told him but won’t listen. He will regret his choice on it.

@asmithdev2162

2 ай бұрын

@@jasonscherer2631 I just abandoned using a k80 because the cuda support level is only 3.5 and most programs like stable diffusion require at least cuda 5.0 or higher. I upgraded to the tesla p100 for $200 off ebay

Re upload ?

17:02 drivers. Drivers drivers drivers.

At first I thought was watching a Doug Demuro video

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

THIS is the 2015 NVIDIA Tesla M40, which originally sold for $5,700... and today, I'm going to review it.

@lilsammywasapunkrock

2 ай бұрын

Jeff knows too much to emulate Doug. I don't dislike doug, but whenever he reviews older cars, he knocks them for not having cupholders and is mystified by such things as an EQ in a stereo.

Helkdivers2 uses 40% of my 9th gen i9 and 80%+ of my 3060 12gig.

The 7840U has a higher multi-core score in Passmark than the Xeon-E5-2697-v4. In single core it's outright humiliation.

It's time to give up on Maxwell.

saying something happened 10 years ago doesn't phase me anymore. I'm already in the century-scale for mental time (even though i'm only 38 yo). anything less than 20 years seem a bit insignificant to me 🧐

How about CSGO? Is it playable?

short answer no...

THis is the kind of video you get when you have somebody who wants server hardware but doesnt have a server job to give it.

Saving the planet from e-waste, by streaming games .. Bravo!!!

the K80 was the biggest waste of money for me, all gpus are double the price in europe and the P40 while being 2.5 times more expensive has like 200% more perofrmance. also the K80 does horrible in 1080p and is pretty laggy and the mehtod of using the K80 for cloud gaming on this channel only allows for 1080p.

Tesla Features

I like watching these videos for educational purposes... however the concept of streaming games is one that I will never ever support. I mean i like to watch how they setup the servers and all that, but 100% of the time I would rather run the game locally rather than stream it. Try playing a ranked dota 2 match through a streaming client......... see how well you do...... ;) Anyways keep up the videos!

I always think of 22 Jump Street when he says "I am Jeff"

Fallout the TV show is a mixed bag. I personally enjoyed most of the characters and like everyone else, I really like the cowboy ghoul. The bad parts are small but glaring. Luckily, they don't outpace the series. I didn't find myself cringing out like I usual do with most of the modern Disney Star Wars or Marvel. Watch it and let it permeate the senses, but if you are absolutely a purist when it comes to Fallout lore, it'll make you happy and sad at the same time.

@CraftComputing

2 ай бұрын

'Purist' Fallout lore is hilarious, considering how outlandish and wacky some of it is. If anything, it's a bit toned down in the show.

@damasterpiece08

2 ай бұрын

@@CraftComputing the fact that they got the creator to say "i'm not writing anything more on the lore apart from what i've already written, the franchise is in bethesda's possession now so go by their lore" is like thinking star wars could ever be written by disney

@hotrodhunk7389

2 ай бұрын

Spoilers: The bit where he was like "oh I don't want my Pepe to pop" was super cringe 😬 Overall thought it was great

@wikwayer

2 ай бұрын

​@@hotrodhunk7389I guess this what happens when reddit don't teach you how to rizz

@PaperReaper

2 ай бұрын

​@@damasterpiece08I mean, star wars animation is on a roll lately. Last season of clone wars, bad batch, tales. Everything is a banger.

21:31 those P cards are still so $$ because of Ai.

@TayschrennSedai

2 ай бұрын

We run the L4 cards for our PoC vdi, they are amazing..... But alas, absolutely nuts on pricing.