Gamesir needs to give us a full features G7 pro / elite

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

True Alex

@deadmommy7

3 ай бұрын

So true friend !!

@KevKlopper

3 ай бұрын

Yeah this or rename to Gamepeasant

@sixfour4740

3 ай бұрын

Oh man 👌

When Gamesir finally releases a pro controller (at least, I hope they will), it's gonna go hard.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Yes sir

I still love my T4 (DJ) Kaleid. Extra comfy for my tiny woman fingers, the aesthetic of the transparent shell, the customizable RGB lights, and the clicky buttons all for a budget meal price range. I really hope Gamesir will make a wireless version soon with 4 rear buttons and everything that's good with the G7 and the accessories of the Nova. I don't mind if it will cost more than the G7 SE.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Anotha one lol

Bought the Cyclone Pro after watching your review and i have been loving it so far. Got it for $30 on sale which is crazy.

The T4 Kaleid is the best controller I've used. Love it for my PC. Beats the piss out of the Xbox Series controllers that I've had that have all gotten stick drift.

@saveir6601

3 ай бұрын

I love it too but the deadzones even set to 0 and raw mode I still feel like there’s some sort of stick delay since the last firmware update.. Iv been looking to see if anyone else feels the same way

@hiepbenh88

3 ай бұрын

@@saveir6601maybe u got bad 1 bro, mine work like champ, it's only feel delay (for right stick only) when i play fps game at 60fps on my ipad mini 6, at 120fps and more, it's so smoooooooth.....

@yercules

2 ай бұрын

The face buttons are terrible though, atleast I'm used to Eswap super fast clicks. Plus it's kind of small if you have average or larger sized hands..

I know this is a controller video, but I was feeling that background music a lot. Captain, you've got some serious taste in music

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Gosh darn, thank you Minty. You’re kind

Recently got a T4k. Decided to buy after watching your video and it was within my budget.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Nice 👍🏼. Hope you like it my friend

Right now i have a g7se with the zodiac rabbit faceplate clear thumbcaps and crystal galaxies i was inspired by gamesirs clear hall effects i also have a precision ring on the right stick its my most customized controller to date and its built with best quality and precision ive ever seen in a controller it is either the same or better than the base xbox series controller in every way i can think except the wired part but i was already using wired power a before so its perfect for me im glad i picked one up when i did 5 stars from me i have yet to recieve my second gamesir controller its in the mail still 😂 great video as always kevin 👍

Very good ! Watching from Brazil here.

Thanks man

They should make a pro Controller with 4 Paddles, 1000hz and HE Sticks

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Did they update the Cyclone Pro's Wireless? I recall you criticizing its wireless performance in your review, but now it's a positive?

I personally use the G7 SE over my XBox Elite Series 2 and love it.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Nice Simon 🎮

@DerickMcAfee

3 ай бұрын

I own both the elite and the g7se. I still find myself using the elite 2 more because I need to use 3 paddles. R3 L3 and B. We need the series 3 to drop.

@Simon_Hawkshaw

3 ай бұрын

@@DerickMcAfee I do understand that and only use the one button/paddle on the G7. I don't find the Series 2 ergonomically comfortable in my specific hand configuration. I am missing the use of two fingers on my right hand. 🤣 , but the mapping software does help me out a great deal to play as I need to.

@DerickMcAfee

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon_Hawkshaw Fair enough. I actually love the feel of both the elite and the g7se. I perfer the elite more myself, i like the heavy quality feel, and the g7se has the opposite, lightweight but quality feel. I'm waiting for a controller that has it all. Mechanical abxy, mouse click triggers, adjustable tension sticks, 4 buttons, hall effect sticks. Unfortunately the only way to get this currently is via a custom controller which will cost you over $300.

@Simon_Hawkshaw

3 ай бұрын

@@DerickMcAfee I think the weight of the Series 2 is what makes it fatiguing for me, and I haven't been able to dial in the dead zones on it as well for my gameplay, as I have with the G7SE, but that is what makes our differences lead to innovation and 'improvement' of our gaming peripherals. Thank you for your reply and time taken to share.

Hey man! One quick question. I've watched a few of your videos, and I'm a bit indecisive. For PC, chill games: Cyclone Pro, 8bitdo Ultimate Bt or GK KK3 Max? Thanks for your time and help :)

How does the stick tension of g7 and g7se compare? I used the g7 for about a year before giving the turtle beach stealth ultra a go and i prefer it simply because the lighter stick tension. I only use skull and co skin caps on each. Something about the g7 shape and stick height just make it a tad harder to be precise with that setup.

Hi, I recently saw that Machenike released the G5 pro max, the big brother of G5 pro with 1000 hz of polling rate. Will you bring a review of this gamepad?

Bought my g7se and I love it. Turning my dead zone as low as possible made me better. However it does need kontrol freeks.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Nice brother, and yes KF’s make all controllers feel better imo (I’ve said this way longer than I’ve been part of their creator program).

have you got any plans for a video on aims new hall effect sticks i was interested in buying one but need the in depth review from the controller captain before i part with £220 for one

If gamesir had a g7 se with 4 paddles that would be amazing

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

True

Got myself the gamesir T4 Kaleid for PC.

@hiepbenh88

3 ай бұрын

It's work at 4 mode , xinput, dinput, switch, ps .... so u can play on pc, switch, android , ios ... with 0 delay to tryhard fps game .... i even use them to play valorant with gyroscooe with rewasd ( switch mode or ps mode ), crazy value for 28$.

@sruxz9514

3 ай бұрын

I fricking love this controller, but recently it started to double click A out of nowhere..

@trendinglife592

3 ай бұрын

@@sruxz9514 maybe you accidentally pressed M + A so its now multi click, press it again and see

@savelarson6999

3 ай бұрын

@@sruxz9514just re calibrate the controller on the app I’ve had the issue too it completely fixed it for me

I own a lot of gamesir controllers, even before they changed to hall effect sticks (all bought by myself). T4 Mini, just for the mini form factor and mostly intended for switch, no wireless mode on PC. T3S, I like this one for the symmetrical sticks and a dualshock 4 form factor, I hope they create a new one with hall effect. Cyclone Pro, agree on you that it's the best one so far, the mechanical face buttons are just satisfying to press and comfortable grip. G8 Galileo, most comfortable mobile controller and main reason is the touch mapping software, also works on official remote play app.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience

@shubham_io

3 ай бұрын

Does it have a connection issues on 2.4 dongle in pc?

Will you be reviewing the new aim ps5 contoller hall effect options

Have anyone info for release of the new Gamesir K1 Kaleid for xbox ?

Please review the Thunderobot G50S, it has really great features at a very low price. Your channel is great! ♥️

Hey am dose moddedzone controller still work on ps5 just watched your video on it but sony i hear have banned everthing as i want to buy 1 but i wont if dosent work on my ps5

I have Gamesir G4 Pro, but I prefer IINE. Tried Gulikit Kingkong 1 & 2, but both of them come faulty (battery, A button sticky, and down stik doesnt register now and then)

I use controller on ipad. The ps5 controller gave me too much trouble of stick drift. Cyclone was the only affordable option with hall effect sticks that worked on ipad. So far the controller worked well for half a year. 👍

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Good choice. Last I checked there is a class action lawsuit regarding Sony using the same vender as the joycons for the thumbsticks , tons of drift. I’ve been super lucky with all my dualsense controllers

So, if I'm understanding cortectly, the controller you're recommending is the gamesir cyclone pro for it's general comfort, quality, features, and connectivity? I couldn't tell if you recommended the cyclone controllers over the g7 controllers.

Which one do u prefer : gamesir cyclone or flydigi direwolf 2?

What is the best cheap ps4 with paddles controller?

Another vote for the T4k on PC. Miles above any other budget controller I've personally used. My only gripe is the constant mode switching that happens thru their software. If I alt-tab out of call of duty, the game stops recognizing it and I have to restart the game. Using alt-enter to exit full screen mode works but it took me some time to figure that out. Edit: I should also note, I bought this controller based strictly off your review video linked in the description.

@SnoozMr

3 ай бұрын

I always alt tab on warzone and I never had this issue with t4k, if understand correctly you let the controller app open while gaming ?

@jbster25

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I leave the app running. Open to suggestions if you have any.@@SnoozMr

@jbster25

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I leave the app running. Open to suggestions if you have any.@@SnoozMr

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Oh wow, thank you sharing the mode switch issue. Good info for cod pc controller players.

I always had bad luck with Gamesir controllers. The T4 Kaleid had squeaki i triggers and the G7 SE is shutting off on its own and in racing games it suddenly steers in one direction :/

imma go with kaleid becausd it looks sick and I'm spooky about drift

Odd question, but do any of GameSir's controllers work on an XBox 360? I have the G7 SE which I got because of your review of it and I love it, but it didn't naturally connect with the XBox 360. I'm unsurprised, but hoping one of their controllers will work this archaic gaming console.

I swear by the T4k and am now looking for a decent wireless Nintendo pro controller. I found out yesterday that the nova series actually has a dongle sold as a set over at taobao. Dunno if that will help the little boys, so I'm currently just waiting for domestic reviews

I have talked to Gamesir's CEO and it's not as bad as I first thought it would be regarding the removal of the 500hz, 1000hz modes on the G7/G7SE. Stay calm. Everything is going to be okay. 👌🏿👍

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

They are removing those modes?

Anyone can give me a recommendation on what to pick? I only use controller for fps games and still don’t know what to pick between g7 se or kaleid, or is there any worth controller besides these two?

I have nova lite but I can’t find a way to connect with PS5 , HELP!

Hello friend, I need a controller works with the phone via cable, because Bluetooth has a delay, especially in cloud games. If you can recommend some types of controller for me? And thanks❤

Ordered a Cyclone Pro, feeling kind of on edge though after watching your review on the Cyclone & Cyclone Pro. I bought it because my XBox controller is starting to get some annoying analog drift. It hasn't arrived yet, but I hope I won't regret the purchase...

thx about this vedio really ❤❤❤❤

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Most welcome 😊

This can be used for PC right? I think I heard you say all platforms. Looks good though

t4 cyclone pro or flydigi direwolf 2?

Are you able to use a game air controller on PlayStation?

GameSir G7 vs Vader 3 Pro? in my location they are priced $53 vs $65 ... ? (for PC only, I only play rocket league on controller), I have 3 broken xbox serires controllers (stick drifting) one of them starting to stick drift after a month of use ...

I've got the T4 Kaleid for PC and I can't recommend it enough! Although I must say I mostly use it to play Street Fighter 6

I have the G7 SE, I was using Xbox 360 controllers for 13+ years before I decided to replace it, and this controller happened to hit all my requirements, including price, as well as all my optional wants too, I ended up loving it and bought a second one, I am very satisfied

@skreph2717

3 ай бұрын

I got two SE controllers an got the magnetic dragon faceplate for it from Amazon.

@entropete

3 ай бұрын

I have ordered the G7 SE, I was using Xbox 360 controllers for 24+ years before I decided to replace it, and this controller happened to hit all my requirements, including price, as well as all my optional wants too, I ended up loving it and bought an optional face plate that was refunded, I am very satisfied

My 8bitdo Pro 2 RB broke after 5 months of light use (particularly RB seems to be a common fault point on Pro 2, it sinks into the controller and still registers but it feels horrible and 8BitDo stopped selling replacement parts)

Saw a video about Gamesir removing 1000hz feature on Xbox request but leaving it on for PC. Can you confirm please? Said to come with a recent update.

Loved my G7se on Xbox so much I had to get uh nutha one for my PC. I love everything about the T4 Kaleid except I wish the face buttons had the stability of the G7 and G7se, but that's just nitpicking. It's also more comfortable than the G7s

@mogran5407

3 ай бұрын

Maybe if you have a broken g7 you can replace the stabilizer parts and plant them in the t4k?? Just an idea that has been on my mind

@bocknessmonster8787

3 ай бұрын

@@mogran5407 I've thought about it, but its never been a big enough issue to put forth the effort on the hopes it fixes it while also running the risk of breaking the controller.

Have the g7 se and i use zero deadzone raw mode and i play linear. So yeah it absolutely has a small amount of drift. This is what i like tho. I stupidly bought a victrix gambit just to find out that you cant lower the deadzone past like 5.

When I manually calibrate my g7 se should i do it at the same hz and analog stick mode that i play COD on? I tried calibrating at 1000hz and in raw mode then switching off raw mode and it felt great in game. Should i be calibrating in the default mode then overclocking to 1000hz?

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

You should run the calibration at all. If you NEED to because your controller was having problems, turn everything to default (clock speed, thumbstick curve, everything) once you calibrate, then turn all your custom settings back on

Can you do a best controller, wired and wireless for each console /PC maybe every year? maybe with budget and premium segment? Would be great!

i thought you were gonna make a tierlist, maybe you could make one haha

Love the original G7. use it for pretty much everything except shooters. I like a physical trigger stop for those. I have the SE as well, but without the rubber grip, and the standards face buttons... No thanks. The g8 is basically a streched out G7 SE, awesome for phone play

Can you review redragon harrow pro?

u should do a controller tierlist

Yo Bro you got that thing that allows you to measure the latency of the gamsir g7se straight from the console instead of the pc ?

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Not yet, it’s in the works

@scottcerato4473

3 ай бұрын

Gamesir g7se is 5.7ms tested with GPDL

Gamesir g7 pro/elite or vader 3 pro ( fps game) Or do you have any other recommendations? For example: apex 4 , kingkon 3

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Vader 3 pro over all those you mentioned good sir.

@pathrapolpitak6295

3 ай бұрын

​@@GamerHeavenOfficialty 😊

How many would work with Xbox..?

Got the t4 kaleid for pc months ago, still works great ... Don't know if is only mine but i feel like there is little tension on the sticks, maybe due to me being used to ps4 controllers...

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Hmm I hadn’t noticed the stick tension , but yeah that’s a great controller

@LuisSantos-ub2kb

3 ай бұрын

@@GamerHeavenOfficial It is yeah, happy with it. Got it because of you aswell, thank you 💪

4 BACK BUTTONS

Hi I just wanted to ask before I watch the video is the hex gaming Xbox controller good or are they better option I know the scuf instinct pro and the Xbox elite 2 are good but the are expensive ❤

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Yes the hex Xbox controller , both models are awesome

@user-md1bp5xk6u

3 ай бұрын

@@GamerHeavenOfficial thank you so much really appreciate it

Gambit was my daily pad. I can't use any other contrller than the G7 SE. G7 SE with thumbsticks in RAW mode for 0 desdzones is super responsive. I get more kills with the SE becasue of the responsiveness than I could with the Gambit. It's not even a comparison. Controllers under 1000hz polling rate on console feel to clunky now.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

All the Victrix controllers are sweet. Enjoy it, and that g7se

can you use g7/g7 se with android?

I'm gonna boast about my $8 T4 Cyclone Pro again because I'm so pumped I stumbled upon it right when my trusty dualshock 4 from 2014 finally let me down (micro usb b port is worn out)

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Such a deal

So between the T4 Kaleid, G7 SE and the Cyclone Pro, which should I choose? I only play on PC and I've always used wired not wireless. All 3 have HE triggers/sticks, so whats the difference between the 3?

With warezone mobile released do you believe the mobile gamesir controller is better than the backbone?

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Yes I do

I still not clear if I can use the T4 cyclone pro on Xbox ?😅

@joshuacastle8701

23 сағат бұрын

Exactly! I don’t see anyone else claiming it or showing how to make it work but he claims it does in this video?!

How is the gamesir fully hall effect a entry level controller? What is a high end controller with hall effect?

@Romchec

16 күн бұрын

As I know you can choose Hall effect thumbsticks when configuring your Scuf controller. But it will cost you 200+$

@caiohdkr

11 күн бұрын

apex 4 is pretty high end imo

Need a Headphone Jack for 2.4ghz Mode in Gamesir Gamepad just like Bigwin Controllers

You're recommending the T4C Pro now? In the original video it did not sound like a particularly good controller.

@Rafeku1

3 ай бұрын

Just got the cyclone pro. There was the whole analog stick gate being noisy and shit.... But no, not really. It feels just like a stock xbox one controller. DPad is also not bad. It aint the best, i still think xbox one dpad is still excellent, but ots nowhere near as bad as it was said to be. It can be a little floaty due to it being very high when looking at the front shell, but stil clicky and gives good feedback.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Katana. The T4 is good but I prefer the cyclone, g7/se over it.

If I want an Xbox controller with 4 remapping paddles and hall effects joysticks what should I get

@DerickMcAfee

3 ай бұрын

There isn't one yet. Unless you go custom controller which will cost 350 or more.

@mdskjoker

3 ай бұрын

​@@DerickMcAfeeYeah What company or controller should I go with

@DerickMcAfee

3 ай бұрын

@mdskjoker hyper or aim controllers. It's expensive.. Hyper is about $200 for 4 buttons, mouse click trigger, and hall effect joysticks. I myself prefer the hyper controllers a little more. Both are around $200, which is cheaper than the last time I checked. It was closer to 300 when i checked last year. Iv seen that aim now offers he joysticks but when I personally checked, I didn't see it as an option, so hyper is what I'd suggest.

@mdskjoker

3 ай бұрын

I was considering both of those but aim doesn't have remapable buttons. And hyper has been taking 3 months to deliver to some customers. I might just go with hyper and pray.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

HYPR, aim, or a Vader 3 pro with a Brook xb2 adapter. All meet your criteria. Vader $80-90. The customs are $200+ but I have discount codes for both in the description of every video

T4 kaleid has to be the best performance to price controller out there . When I tested with the GPDL it comes in at 2.37ms @1000hz 2.86ms @500hz and 3.9ms @250hz . For such a cheap low budget controller they do this better then most $$$$ pro controllers I've tested 🎉🎉🎉

G7SE is great. missing only 4 back buttons

I have a G7 SE. I'm on my 3rd right now. 😑 the first thing to criticize is the cable which is long but literally cannot help itself from twisting and tangling while just sitting there. So what happened? That shortened the cable, the controller fell off my TV stand, and two separate components broke. The first time it was a wire to the RT that severed and effectively killed the RT. The second time was a big eye opener. The cable did its thing again and it fell off the TV stand and directly on the joysticks (which is probably the most probable way it will fall) and it caved in the joystick killing the hall effect module. These Halls modules are incredibly brittle so be more careful than I am. Im sure I couldve changed it but I bought 2 after the first one broke. So I just moved onto the 3rd. My biggest complaints are the d-pad shape (Xbox dish is better) and the Xbox button which i get phantom long clicks when going to the dashboard and it sends me to the power off screen. I'll probably get a G7 just to experience the buttons feel. But I do actually like how smooth and accurate the halls feel on the SE. The SE, like the std G7, can now poll 1000Hz. Their software is pretty nice for customizing and mapping. Still waiting on the G7 SE Pro

@doingdongstudio1750

Ай бұрын

I just broke my first t4 kaleid when I lost the cable and tried to take it apart it only lasted 3 months should I buy another one?

I'm waiting for the 8-bitdo guide

i need them to do a symmetrical layout already :(

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

That would be pretty neat

Your Videos are amazing. I really like it. I am a new subscriber to your channel. Can I talk with you Bro??

Man they need to start selling some hall effect symmetrical style controllers that's under $80.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

That’d be cool to offer some variety

@carreraluu

3 ай бұрын

i read somewhere on reddit, they wont due to sony license nonse 😞@@GamerHeavenOfficial

You stated in this video that the Pro Wireless actually does work for Xbox. Can you please explain how? I don’t want to buy it if it doesn’t actually work. A KZread short tutorial would be nice! Thank you in advance! I searched them other videos you posted between this one and your Pro review and found nothing claiming about this.

@joshuacastle8701

23 сағат бұрын

Can anyone help me!!

you ar the KING Controller ... BRO ...

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

I greatly appreciate it

G7 is better/cheaper than a standard xbox controller. Also, my sticks are very accurate for analog, I had to exchange a scuff that came brand new with stick drift and the circularity test looked nearly square.

Gamesir T4 Cyclone or 8Bitdo Ultimate C

I have a GameSir cyclone pro it’s nice but I prefer my 8bitdo ultimate

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Right on, both great

the dl khaled ANOTHA ONE never goes out of style

@jjahstafari3481

Ай бұрын

Does the Khaled work for Xbox?

How can i connect my cyclone pro on my xbox ?

@joshuacastle8701

23 сағат бұрын

Just asked this question… you posted this 3 weeks ago… crickets… sucks because that was such a bombshell claim that he simply glazed over, and didn’t extrapolate on at all. I have no idea how to make it work, but he claims it does… so…?? A tutorial video would have been nice.

@WaniceParis

23 сағат бұрын

@@joshuacastle8701 yeah, like, it's recognised by windows and android as a bluetooth xbox one controller but the xbox don't recognise it as a compatible controller, so for now i think it doesn't work

@joshuacastle8701

23 сағат бұрын

@@WaniceParisI’ve been reading around and the only thing that makes sense is something called a Brook Wingman XB2 adapter? Dunno what that is, sounds like it may cause more input delay though… guess you could try it out if you’ve got the money? I might cave and buy a cyclone and see what I can do to get it to work… hopefully it won’t be a waste.. might buy the Kaleid for Xbox as a backup though.

@WaniceParis

23 сағат бұрын

​@@joshuacastle8701 it's still the best controller i ever had, and i had like, a lot of controller, from msi to gamesir, nintendo pro controller, gamesir g4 and 8 bit do ultimate, i have to say, the battery is the only thing that makes me regret my old nintendo pro controller, it could hold like weeks of battery without charge. But i guess every controller has ups and downs.

I need a pro wireless rgb controller with better features than the elite 2 but for half the price

I thought they did a big progression after g4 pro... But backward

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Reverse progression lol

W

There was an aliexpress listing with the nova that includes the 2.4g dongle, will update this comment once it arrives

@joshuacastle8701

23 сағат бұрын

Yikes, been two months..

So basically after having watched 7-8 full videos of yours... yes... full... I came to this conclusion: There is no really good Gamesir Wireless controller O_O Why: Because basically the Cyclone is really nice but has a non usable d pad and according to this video any other wireless Gamesir controller is worse than the Cyclone/Pro... I'm lost dude... I need a wireless controller, I want it to have hall effect joysticks, acceptable buttons and D Pad and Nice if possible triggers. Generally, I'd prefer a Gamesir due to pricing. Does anyone maybe have a recommendation?

@GamerHeavenOfficial

2 ай бұрын

Vader 3 pro should meet all your requirements and I can recommend

Gamesir announced that they are removing the ability to over clock on xbox consoles.. sigh.. by the order of Microsoft

I saw that gamesir is going to have to remove the 1000hz from xbox and the app.freaking haters!

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Whaaaa? Where did you hear this?

Strongly recommend not buying gamesir products. G7 failed with severe stick drift in just under 6 months, currently in a 2 message per day chat with some jackass that calls me dear at the start of every message who just keeps telling me to update and calibrate the controller no matter how many times I say that didn't work and blatantly ignores my question of how to file a warranty claim for a replacement

and none of them have 4 back buttons, pass.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

3 ай бұрын

Looking forward to a 4 button

MS is pissed about the 500-1000hz update on Xbox.

I bought the x2 years ago and didn't know at the time it's for nin switch mostly which is Garbage. nin switch sucks ass. Yes it can go xbox controls but for game pass it don't which is dumb