this is a perfect explanation for every purpose. i’ll try the internal mod, it looks far easier than i imagined. thanks a bunch and keep up the great work!

Definitely, I will try to do this one! Thank you very much for the explaination ! Oh and one more thing, we need to see more of your drawings ! Take care man!

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh haha thank you! I'm glad the drawings helped!

Great video man! I've always just done the internal pro sound. You're diagrams are sick!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh thank you! I'm glad my scribbles helped! 😅

I've done this mod four times, and I still learned something I didn't know from you. Great video. Thanks!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh that's so great to hear. Thank you!

This video was incredible, thank you! I've been getting into lsdj lately but so many resources went down with chiptunes=win so videos like this is really appreciated!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

That's great, thanks for letting me know! I didn't know that about chip win, I'm sorry to hear that. I just posted a new video about the basic lsdj interface you may want to check out 😊

My dude this video was a revelation not just for modding my DMG but modding and wiring/soldering in general. Thank you!

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

Ahh fantastic! Thanks for the feedback

Once again referring to this video while doing a prosound mod. Really glad you made this! Cheers, Joe!

@JoeBleeps

6 ай бұрын

I hope it's still relevant!

Thank you for this video! It's very informational and easy to understand. Today my father and I successfully did an external pro-sound mod following your instructions. The sound is amazing.

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

That's fantastic!

Lots to learn here! Thanks for taking the time to share!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Two-Eyed_Boy

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps realize this is an older video and older comment, but I'm almost brave enough to try this mod finally! Trying to decide between adding an 1/8" jack or doing the internal sound mod. Does the internal mod interrupt the speaker?

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

@@Two-Eyed_Boy yes! That's what I love about it. Good luck!

This was really informative and it was cool to see a lot of different examples. I'm new to DMG modding so this was really helpful to me! Keep up the good work man :)

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was just thinking about this video and wondering if it had been useful to anyone 😅

Thank you very much for a thorough explaination of the various pro sound mods.

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Hope it was useful!

Thank you for this video this helps me perfectly with my first pro sound mod

@JoeBleeps

Ай бұрын

Awesome! I am really glad you found it useful

Great video dude. Lots of documentation online about prosound, but trying to parse all of the info for different variations for different models & etc has been rough. All the tutorials i’ve found have been a bit vague, or just assume a certain level of familiarity w/this sort of thing. So yeah, this was super helpful 👍🏻 thanks dude

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Glad it was useful!

Excellent explanation, thanks for making this i've learnt so much

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Thanks!

Really great explanation, thank you!

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback!

Awesome man,thanks for share 😆

Thanks, great to finally have all this info in a clear and high quality video instead of having it in single ancient websites all around the internets

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Yo! I finished doing this for my GB pocket. Only took me a few years to get around to it. I had no idea that the pocket was built so differently on the inside. Thanks for helping out! Can't wait to really get a live setup going now :D

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

It really is very different. And delicate too!

@x2bounty

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps the job is actually a little less complicated, however i had to find out myself that the board was completely unique

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

@@x2bounty they made a lot of changes to pack everything into that smaller shell

Amazing mods, very inspired.

@JoeBleeps

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great video my dude.

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for this vid ! Amazing

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I'm glad you liked it!

Wow! Subscribed!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Your tutorials are excellent! I wish I'd found your channel much earlier!

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've not been posting videos for that long so you've not missed much 😊

oh man ive been looking for a channel like this, you sir are a savior GGz!!!

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I loved this walkthrough of your builds! Having the integrated PS/2 connector and 6 pin switch to enable pre/post pot signals to all of the outputs is genius! Do you think you might be able to show some of the internals of that kitsch bent dmg?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I could do yes! Might make for an interesting video. It's difficult to squeeze everything back in there so I'm reluctant to open it up while everything works 😅

@jsfleming

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps That'd be awesome! The thing I'm most curious about is how you ended up mounting the side switch to change which signal gets used. I ordered parts to set one up similarly, but I'm just a tad bit hesitant to relying on hot glue for a long-term solution haha. The other thing was which DPDT switch you ended up using, as I've found a few but I'm not too sure on how easily they'd be able to be used once installed.

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsfleming hot glue is a good solution if you pack the area with it so it can't move anywhere. That curved recess is pretty good for it. I think I superglued it in place then gradually added layers of hot glue

This vid is priceless! I expect to wrap up my first DMG mod when I get retrosix clean amp v1.1. I have Retromodding prosound pcb, IPS v3, and Retrosix clean juice/clean power in Retrosix shell. GBA is next. Can you do a GBA (not SP) prosound vid?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

If I ever make one again I'll definitely make a video

This was so helpful! Thank you for the amazing video! I was wondering if you could recommend switches for the toggle between pre/post pot and the on/off switch for the speaker. I'm having a bit of trouble finding some thay do the job correctly :/

This is a great video! Can't find much on KZread about audio mods apart from amps, so this has really taught me a lot. I'm a bit of a circuitry noob, but what kind of slide switch do you use for the post pot & pre pot switch and where can I get them from?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

It was a really small one, any should do. I often use ebay for stuff like that. This one had two rows of three pins so it's like an on/on Switch to swap between states. Having two rows meant I could swap between pre and post for two inputs at the same time, if that makes sense. It's not a mod I've seen done before and it's far from essential but it was fun to do!

You are smart man... If you buy mod console you worth

Muchassss graciaas

@JoeBleeps

9 ай бұрын

😊🙏

Hey Joe! Great video, I had no idea that the internal pro sound option existed! I have just two questions 1. You said that the internal pro sound mod makes the sound quieter, does it still get loud enough for personal headphone use outside of recording? 2. Where's the best place to get those little wires to solder the connections?

@ConnorBaxter

2 жыл бұрын

It gets quieter with headphones due to the signal not being amplified as much for the headphones to drive them. it's still audible and useable in quiet settings. but it lacks some of the oomph, bass, and volume for me generally if i'm on a train etc. through an amplifier or mixer, it sounds so much better though!! I think the easiest compromise is having a seperate jack for Prosound, and keep the headphone jack for when you're writing on the go with headphones. just my experience.

if you do pre pot can you leave speaker attached and just set volume to off and still get line out on new jack

The internal pro sound mod is perfect. I actually have a dodgy left stream that doesn't work even with a new earphone jack, so I'm hoping a pro sound modification will fix that.

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck!

@VanguardRaven

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Sadly it didn't work out, but through the right ear I could tell that all the hiss and buzz was completely removed. The interesting part is that both left and right speakers work when it is partially pulled out. Maybe you have an idea what may be the problem? Besides that, do you know what the negative effects of bypassing the earphone socket amp might be with the internal pro amp, if any? Cheers!

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanguardRaven maybe needs a replacement audio socket

@VanguardRaven

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Not the case either, because that was the first thing I tried. Oh well lol

@VanguardRaven

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Before I forget, do you know of any downsides to doing the internal amp bypass, besides the possible interference from a dirty potentiometer? Cheers!

Hi, I've got a question about doing a, "internal" sound mod: do you know of any ways to amp up the audio-jack as well as the speaker, bypassing the original DMG amp? From what I can find, you can do an "internal"-mod wher you add an amp board (eg. retrosix have those), but those are just for amping up the speaker. However, I'd like to amp up both the speaker & the jack, while making sure you the jack cuts off the sound to the speaker when plugged in.

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I'd point you in the direction of www.heldergametech.com/ who posts as angryhelder on Instagram and Twitter. They did a lot of the work that R6 copied and make reliable products with a great reputation. They are also very helpful and will most likely be able to answer your questions. I use an external mixer to boost the sound but I can see how an internal amplifier would be useful.

Would love to have some video about the variable clock mod (thursday customs used to have them, and some month ago I get some from handheld legend). I.e. could we build our own, how to we fit the existing ones into a IPS and pro sound modded DMG shell. Also sometimes pushing the buttons on these things will crash your processor and I read somewhere that this could be circumvented by using a rocker switch instead of a button.

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

That's a mod I've never done, as it happens!

Wow😲

I am wondering if you could implement a switch to change between the internal pro sound, and using the headphone jack as it comes stock. That would be an interesting middle ground for those who still like to make music through headphones, as well as play live.

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

It's doable for sure, essentially you'd have two wires to disconnect/ reconnect at a time. Would work better if you soldered to the points where you removed the two wires instead. I've found that to be not quite as good for the prosound but it does work, and would be better suited to the switch. I personally have no problems with using headphones after the prosound mod. Quieter, yes, but much cleaner sound.

This video is perfect. I learned so much and feel confident I can do something like this to meet my needs. I guess one question I have is if I do the internal pro sound mod and bypass the internal amp and just use headphones that are really low ohm. Will it be audible enough to play comfortabley or would I need an amp. My main goal is to bypass the hiss/hum it drives me crazy. I tried doing this cap mod to and that worked a little but I still get alot of hum and hiss. I guess you would be unable to answer my question without knowing what headphones I'm using so I guess my question is, is how much does the original GB amp actually amp the volume?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely quieter than before through headphones but it's cleaner, so you can hear it more clearly at the lower volume. I use headphones with it and I prefer it to the original headphone input

@Ill_look_back_on_in_disgust

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Great thanks. Just to clarify I use the IPS screen mod so maybe that introduces alot of hiss/hum from the power board? I'm not an expert on this stuff maybe ill try cutting some wires and do the prosound mod I got the stuff for it so maybe I'll try that.

@Ill_look_back_on_in_disgust

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Went ahead and did the post pot method with the original jack and it sounds perfect I'm so happy, there's a tiny bit but its nothing and only audible with max volume. It works perfect with my RIPS V3 and I got the filtering cap mod into the power board the (470uf 16v cap) and that got rid of most of speaker audio to be happy with. It's still there but not as bad as before or my headphones before. Unfortunately the speaker still hums a little even when pot is all the way down. Would be cool to have the pot switch the speaker off like what happens when the headphones are in but when the pot is at a really low volume. That would legitimately make it perfect.

@JoeBleeps thanks for this video! I learnt a lot of things! I've just some questions on the switch: it is not clear (at least to me) how to solder it and the pre-post pot to the other components. 1. Could you please explain more how to properly connect everything? (how did you done on yours? What did you precisely connected? (pad, components...)) Is there any pinout available? 2. What does LOut and ROut means? Left Output and Right Output, of course, but what you exactly mean? Maybe the RCA? 3. I also don't understand if am I allowed to solder all the jacks and also a PS/2 Jack Keyboard to use it as synth. Is it possible? If yes, how to do it? Thanks for your patience and your time!

@JoeBleeps

3 ай бұрын

Okay that's a lot to unpack. I am glad you enjoyed it! 1 - if you're just starting out I would suggest the "internal prosound" mod. No extra parts needed, just some wires. The other options are fun but this is the one I always do as it's clean looking and sounds great despite being a simple job. I have other videos that explain this, I can point you in the direction of these if you need me to. 2 - Yes left and right outputs. These are the connection points to join up to the left and right connector on an audio socket you'll be connecting your cable to. 3 - yes it's possible to do as many jacks as you want and do the PS/2 mod as well, there is just more work involved. the PS/2 mod allows you to connect an external keyboard and use the game boy as a synth but to be honest I've only used it for that when testing these mods. It's not as much fun as actually creating sounds and sequencing them in LSDJ

@prototype_925

3 ай бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Thanks by heart for your answers! I did and prefer external prosound mod because I'd like to preserve the headphone jack even if unfortunately the external one requires trimming the shell. So I'd like to try the switch mod with RCA+JACK, in order to have the best of every possible combination (even if I'd like to add a 6.4 Jack too, but I don't know if there is enough room, I've seen your other videos). I only have one final question: I've carefully rewatched this video, and the only other thing I didn't understand is the ground pin and components. I'm not sure, but you say something like "after soldering everything in this way with the switch, every other component "-" should be soldered to the ground pin" So, in my opinion, let's say I have RCA and Jack: I need to solder the "ground" part of each of them to that specific ground pin in audio pot part. (I don't honestly know if it is a good idea, because it would become a mess with cables, so every gnd point on the motherboard should be fine) Do I have correctly got what you meant (solder every "-" on components to gnd points on the motherboard and every "+" on components to the switch) or did you mean something else?

@JoeBleeps

3 ай бұрын

@@prototype_925 the ground is common. The switch is being used to swap between the + connection on say the RCA and the 3.5mm socket.

Where did you buy the silicone A+ B buttons???(on the white DMG)

I ve done the wiring connecting to where the 4 true hole are. Are there any benefit to wire to the 2 pad like you show on the video?

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

I've always found my method works best for me, but I'm sure it's not too different

I suscribe your channel. Like

Will a pro sound mod make the "bass mod" (changing to capacitors on the main board to higher values, 10µ) obsolete?

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

No it's a separate mod, all you're doing is bypassing the headphone amp so any capacitors changed on the main board should still have an effect

What cartridge would you recommend to get for the dmg to put lsdj on?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of the EMS ones and a couple of Drag N Derp. Drag N Derp are great but very expensive, there are good newer ones available now but I forget the names!

What is happen if connect RCA to pre-pot?

does the post pot internal mod still have the speaker cutoff working?

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

Yes it does - that's a feature of the socket itself

"internal pro sound" also known as noise cancelling? is this the same technique talked about in the gameboy color for reducing noise? i've also heard of capacitor boosting as well. thoughts on this Joe?

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah essentially it's a case of getting rid of the hiss at the expense of a bit of volume, but if you're plugged into a mixer that doesn't matter. I've tried out the capacitor mods on the gameboy color but I never really got into those mods as much because I always preferred making music with the DMG. There's some cool stuff you can do on them, for sure.

@itsstucat

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps thanks for the speedy reply joe love the videos love the content.

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

@@itsstucat thank you!

Is there a stereo amp for gba or gba sp? The current ones only amp one channel which sucks

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. I've installed an amp before in a Gameboy but that was mainly for the speaker

Sorry to bother you but I can't find a definitive answer and you seem super well informed. Is it normal that on all my DMGs, the sound is only coming from the left cup, on all of my 3 poles headphones? I can hear from both ears if I plug a 4 poles (like a cheap smartphone ear-set, with the mic turned off) but even then, only in mono, since I tried with the stereo/mono option of Pokemon Silver. All my 3 poles stuff work fine with the Pockets and the Colors. Please enlighten me I'm so f lost lol.

@JoeBleeps

5 ай бұрын

It's definitely a problem with the game boy. Possibly a case of cleaning the volume potentiometer or even the audio socket, check out my most recent video for a fix I did when one stereo channel was stronger than the other

@Kaelidoz

5 ай бұрын

@@JoeBleeps thank you! will do :)

So if you hook up the 2x RCA ports to pre, would that nix the hiss on its own, or would you need an additional component?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

No additional components needed. The hiss is generated by the headphone amp, if you wire up your connectors straight to the audio out points on the motherboard like this you'll get a much clearer signal, regardless of what connectors you choose to install. I hope that helps.

@x2bounty

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps It does! Thanks. How hard would that be to an absolute beginner with circuitry?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

@@x2bounty not too hard but I'd suggest learning to solder wires to components first. With RCA the drilling and installation of the sockets is the tricky part

Hi! Is this doable on a GameBoy Color as well?

@JoeBleeps

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are a few mods for game boy Color but I've never found the GBC sound to be as satisfying as the DMG, so I've not explored them fully

Where can I get those silicone buttons? (haven't finished watching the video yet, sorry if it's mentioned later)

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I got those from Kitsch-Bent in the USA

@mastaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Thank you! :)

Great man thanks. It works. I do get a high pitch noise though through my mixer. Is that normal?

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

What model game boy and mods have you got?

@atozee1500

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps original Dmg, and no other mods besides case.

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

@@atozee1500 strange. What type of pro sound mod did you go for?

@atozee1500

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Yes so it's a dmg-cpu-06. I did the internal pro sound mod. I decided to turn the pre amp on the mixer down and now it's much better. I guess because i have to boost a low signal the noise floor also gets louder? what do you think?

@atozee1500

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps I found exactly what im experiencing. chipmusic.org/forums/topic/4543/filtering-dmgs-high-pitched-frequencies/page/3/ The first post describes it exactly. You might find this interesting.

do u sell gbs with pro sounds or where can i buy one? i'm dumb to make my own. =(

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

I sometimes sell them, but it's not too hard to do!

@1TZAH

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps how much will you sell one of those? i can't find where to buy the soundmod

I did the internal pro sound mod and the noise had become worse. The only other mod I did was the led screen. I followed the directions step by step with multiple references and even made sure everything was grounded and it's still buzzing bad. Any advice?

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

That is very unusual. You shouldn't be getting that buzzing as you've eliminated the headphone amplifier

@garryoberholtzer5626

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps Well the amp creates more of a white noise in the noise floor, right? While I'm getting an actual tone, and a high one at that the second I turn the system on.

@garryoberholtzer5626

Жыл бұрын

I already cut the original connection and I'm pondering just trying to reconnect the old joints because I don't know what else to do.

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

@@garryoberholtzer5626 have you got an IPS screen in there?

@garryoberholtzer5626

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeBleeps yes I do

can i just cut the wires to my speaker to kill it? or will that cause issues

@JoeBleeps

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that would work, I've done it before and put a switch in line with the speaker wire, which does essentially the same thing

@cboyslim5490

3 жыл бұрын

oh yeah having a toggle switch would be nice for when you cant find your earbuds or somethin

Shed tour??.

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

It's in the works! I was going to do one then I bought a new 3d printer and it's all a mess again!

i am japanes, i like DGM! botton LED MOD lectur video please tell me　&-( Sorry for my poor english...

Why don't you just remove the original headphone jack and put the new one there instead of drilling a new hole to the shell?

@JoeBleeps

4 жыл бұрын

The internal prosound is pretty much that. I can't see much benefit to swapping the parts out though.

Hey there, great video! I found a DMG mod kit called "PureSound + BassBoost" by "Revive to Relive" and it consists of 3 electrolytic capacitors ("replace the old two capacitors with the new ones and solder an additional capacitor to the DC CONV"). This seems to be a much simpler mod - any thoughts on this?

@JoeBleeps

Жыл бұрын

That sounds interesting, the capacitors will serve to emphasise the bass. The mod I'm doing here is mainly to provide a clearer sound and then I use a mixer to adjust levels such as bass. It's fun to try different mods though!