Gaijin is Quietly Upgrading Your F-5C | War Thunder
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As part of Gaijin's new roadmap, there's been a lot of amazing changes. One of those was the recent roadmap announcement with foldering vehicles and moving some up in rank. The F-5C, one of the most popular premiums War Thunder has ever seen, is one of them.
Roadmap: warthunder.com/en/news/8414-d...
00:00 Intro
00:35 Roadmap Changes/Rank 7
01:55 Flight Performance
03:10 Armament
05:40 Matchmaker and F-5E
07:10 Should You Buy the F-5C???
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Guess you can research the F-16C Block 50 instead now!!! I can't believe they're skipping that much 😭😭😭
@woodward_wilson1629
11 ай бұрын
I cried a little bit inside when i saw this post earlier. I dunno why we need a F-16C right now when we dont even have an F-15A yet. Of course the possibility remains that we still get the F-15A this update but i feel that getting an F-16C nullifies the impact of the F-15A's arrival if they both drop in the same update
@adacolb2340
11 ай бұрын
When AIM-120
@Whiteghost785
11 ай бұрын
Going from Block 15/20's to block 50 is crazy
@Redfox442
11 ай бұрын
So dumb. F-5C spam is a pain as it... this is probably a money move since rank 7s prems are like $70
@CaptainLegionary
11 ай бұрын
THEYRE RELEASING THE BLOCK 50 F16C?!?!?!?!?!?! MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO THE EAGLE
The way F5Cs can 180 on you and still catch up is frankly terrifying lol
Personally, I really like the armored belts using the 20mm! They're actually really good at starting fires with only 1 or 2 hits. So it's essentially 12.7 APIT that sparks less.
@nonotreally5380
11 ай бұрын
Same. I've found they're also a lot more consistent against well armored planes like the SU-25 and the A-10 which are absolutely ubiquitous at that BR.
Poor Lee, so disappointed with the F-16 that he had to play the F-15C without the 1 in it...
I'm so happy as I am currently grinding tier 7 so when the F5C becomes a tier 7 it will fit perfectly in time for me to grind out tier 8.
@TheBritishBat
11 ай бұрын
Same here bro
@kingghidorah8106
11 ай бұрын
yep i got it on sale because i was tired of getting my mig19 missiled on custom lobby and always wanted a cool dogfight plane. It's also a great rb platform and the aim9E work wonders head on against MiG23 ML launching r24t.
My favorite bomber
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
😤😤😤
@user45g-4c5rf
11 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 😂😂
@teapeakay
11 ай бұрын
you bastard!!
Been playing for a year with a friend and only got to rank 2 but he gifted me this last week and I grinded all the way to rank 6 already so this is awesome to hear
This is one of my favorite prems I have. I do wonder is the F5C gonna have a price increase?
@fate3071
11 ай бұрын
They said premiums that get moved will have their prices adjusted accordingly
@igorlopes8638
11 ай бұрын
@fate3071 hope we dont play against freaking f16
@Kumyar
11 ай бұрын
@@igorlopes8638 Its the RANK increase, not the BR increase(i hope)
@igorlopes8638
11 ай бұрын
@kumyar55 yeah sir (i hope too lol)
@fate3071
11 ай бұрын
@igorlopes8638 even if it is a BR increase, it will be 10.7 at the absolute most. And I doubt that will happen since it greatly underperforms compared to the F-5E
1:10 that was almost friendly fire lol
i also feel like the missiles pull more i mean a month two back the missiles could barely turn and now they are doing a sold like 15 gs at least, it might be just me tho but i feel like they turn better idk why
@evangalinsky2499
11 ай бұрын
Honestly sometimes E's and B's are cracked and other times they suck.
its nice that the f5-c is going to rank 7 but they have to improve it a little bit like better missiles or a better G pull
@bb-152ussmeta9
10 ай бұрын
It's a rank increase not BR increase. The F5C is still stupid good at its BR as it is due to its flight performance
ive found myself getting 1 to 2 kills 70 percent of my games with the missiles. I would highly recommend buying this premium
This literally makes me so happy. I have all the fighters for rank 7 but I have rank 5 attackers💀 I need one more plane for rank 8 and hopefully the f5c will do that
I'm a ground player but saw that the pre-order bonus was the top gun skin so I bought it anyways and figured I'd use it later. I just happened to decide now was that time haha
i've been playing f-5c for some time and i gotta say it's the best dogfighter i've ever played and it's also really good sl grinder because it gives you a good amount of sl for each kill
@Spaceglider-official
11 ай бұрын
f5e>f5c
@yester8039
11 ай бұрын
Man you have to try the Mig-29, the thing just floats into the air and pulls AOA out of his ass even at 300 kph
@arifdlgr
11 ай бұрын
@@Spaceglider-official f-5e is better but it also sits in higher br
@Geniy_B_Kvadrate_XD_ua
11 ай бұрын
AV-8A>F-5C
@armandoestrella3097
11 ай бұрын
nah, harrier is bad@@Geniy_B_Kvadrate_XD_ua
Love the mig 28 that you are playing with im personally saving up for it
@milbin1795
10 ай бұрын
Lol, it can do a negative 4 G pull.
i'm mad that the leopard 2a4 premium GER is moved up but I bought the Leo1 L44 that made sense when both were rank 6, but now I just get screwed
Man after the update US players have 3 choices which premium they wanna grind the F16
When i see devblog about another F16 i'm feel disappointed. We have bombcat, this f-16 we dont need. So, F-15 didnt come in this patch, but i still have hope for a teaser with f-15
I hope this thing as well as other premiums gling up, goes on sale during the anniversary and hope gaijin doest do gaijin things the the upcoming sales.
@zanzao-1ps318
11 ай бұрын
It would get it now cause they may do another bad sale like the summer one
I was scared I had to buy an a-6 or f-4s thank snail
Hey just wondering i do not have it i was waiting for the anniversary sale do you think it will be on sale?
this thing single handedly carried me to the F-16 and prepared me for top tier playing, it's great
@gendarmerielosblancos4395
11 ай бұрын
My Mig21S eats them for breakfast with R3Rs
@Sparrowthebird
11 ай бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 r3rs? you mean the missile that pulls 10gs? lmao
@gendarmerielosblancos4395
11 ай бұрын
@@Sparrowthebird you'll never expect it in a head-on + your chaff and flare won't help. I'll also outturn you in a dogfight in the first two turns because I have delta wings and bleed speed like crazy
@Jauffre-innit
11 ай бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 we need armies of mig21s to just destroy these fuckers in every game until nobody plays it anymore and poeple can go back to having fun
@aecs9188
11 ай бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 well if they have a fucking brain its kinda useless
For me I don’t need to go down the f-16 line or Atacker line since I have the A6E and the f5!
You r very good pilot! What do you think about a6e in arb? Wanna take it to grond techtree and then play grb
it is good if you have got it but its price will be increased so i am hoping for a sale before it is moved up
Finally I don’t have to play top tier shit to unlock top tier shit I won’t play anyways
@Cloud_Stratus
11 ай бұрын
You're telling me you hate playing 3min missile spamfests where everyone has to hug the ground?
Whens the update? Should I still wait until the October sale?
The bloc of the new f16 is still up in the air, if the bloc 50 cant use sparrows
F-16C grind is gonna be ridiculously easy now
Will it have its rp/sl boost updated to that rank ? Also played this today for a couple of hours I unlocked all 5.3 to 6.7 used napalm x2 aime x2 also got 3mil sl and being on console not very good at AB shows how good it is as a grinder
Beautiful, I might buy it, But what is that "It works for me" writing that flashes instead of "Aircraft destroyed"? Same with "Hit simulator". Never seen that.
regarding your experience with the f-5E, I've gotten few 10.7-9.7 games, they mostly were 11.3-10.3 and it was pretty painful to do good against planes that are 300kmh faster than you at sea level, especially considering that F-5E feels more like a plane with it's limitations instead of feeling like an arcade mode sort of thing with infinite nose authority; which is weird because F-5E has leading edge extensions to pull more AOA but doesn't pull any on the game. Edit: The F-5E is my highest stat plane with 4 kill death ratio and 2.0k/b in it, it's a good 1v1 plane but people can literally decide just not to engage you. Just a reminder that thing was 11.0 while being a copy paste MiG19PT with two of the worst short range missiles of rank 6+, while J7E being the absolute best dogfighter in the entire game, faster, more powerful and four long range 30g missiles shared the same BR.
@texasthib2029
11 ай бұрын
Bruh the f5E is fucking insane if you are ass in that jet or don’t think it’s good you’ve got to be one of the worst on the game
sounds like an excuse to make it $70 instead of $60 to me. They said they were changing the prices of the premiums so i wouldnt be suprised
Is it getting a BR boost to match the F5E also?
Can they “quietly” upgrade Swedish jets by adding tracers back
Block 50 is gonna go fast :D
Wish we could still get the aggressor skin
Ive abused this aircraft for so long, now its time to do it harder
@christopherbassit2757
11 ай бұрын
Me too I got it last week and I already grinded upto rank 6
Gonna buy it next sale with the money from the su35bm. I really want to play the f5e and f8.
@SamFagundes
11 ай бұрын
go for the f8e an dont settle for the f8u. the wings are horrible on the f8u. the 8e has better wings an gets radar missiles an if you really want, you can use bombs an more rockets on the 8e
Im sad you didnt call the F15A but hell ill take a block 50 AND IK THEY SKIPPED 25 30 AND 40
Good things come to those who ait
I wish i bought the F-5C over the SPS-K a year ago. It's complete suffering, and even now that this jet is going to rank 7... bruh, I wasted 30 gaijin coins, when i grinded like 200 hours for it... it's like i lost 200 hours of progress for no reason...
This is great! At least it would be if gaijin support stops serving me nothing burgers
I respectfully disagree with your statement about the AV-8, it's a far harder plane to fly for the constant 10.3 games you'll have, I have about 600 battles in all variants of the harrier, except for the GR.7 (all with a K/D above 2). When you are top-tier it's great, when at 10.0 it's very vulnerable, but at 10.3 and 10.7 you're instantly dead. Missiles at those BR's aren't really the main method to get kills, unless playing against idiots. (Or radarmissiles). The F-5C is an absolute unit, it's very easy to get a K/D above 3 with it. And still extremely good against 11.3 jets, it's very easy to get them to overshoot or turn into their circle. You're right about the matchmaker. 9.7 is non-stop uptiers rn.
Will it be bumped up in price as well and when will it go up? Love the vid keep it up
@Doberman300
11 ай бұрын
Yes it will but you can still buy it for $60 until then
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
It's gonna go to 70 dollars with rank 7
@gamingnumptiesxd9032
11 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 would you recommend it over the f4s as I’m definitely going to pick one of them up in the sale
@outrun137
11 ай бұрын
@@gamingnumptiesxd9032Definitely, it is so easy to play and the match maker is much nicer, many su 25 you can shoot down relatively easy and many wallet warriors
It gains 1,000 RP per minute of gameplay. 1,000!! PER MINUTE!! It's no friggin wonder everyone uses the damn thing. Also this helps me out SO much because I was originally going to have to research like 6 extra vehicles just to get to tier 8 Even though I am on the F-5E about to reach the F-16 and F3H so the two F-8 and the F-4 to reach F-14. Now with the F5C being tier 7 that is like 6 less I am forced to research. So I can just finish the F-5E then research both F-8 and the F-4 and I will be able to research F-16 and F-14 at my choosing(Which one do you think it's gonna be lol)
@johnjimmy8385
11 ай бұрын
1000 per minute of just flying? Rp varies on how long you survive and what you do
@Il_Cesco
11 ай бұрын
And with the next patch they will folder the f16a and adf together, so you can grind the f16C by researching only one of those two!
@RedTail1-1
11 ай бұрын
@@johnjimmy8385 Nope, it's just "time played"
@RedTail1-1
11 ай бұрын
@@Il_Cesco That would not be surprising. Gaijin always lock the better variant of a vehicle behind a folder.. That crap is so annoying. Why would I want to research a vehicle twice just to have the better one?
@johnjimmy8385
11 ай бұрын
@@RedTail1-1 so how long you survived 🗿
Ah yes, the definition of handheld is getting to rank 7, time to add another 100 battles to it, so i can fly Block 50.
I'll be honest, I like the F4S ALOT more. My games in the F5C have been very unlucky. Only US team vs literally every other nation
@LeBron_888
11 ай бұрын
F5C id busted, u Can handle 1v1 easily and even multiple opponents at the same Time. just keep your speed high and wait for them to make a mistake, they will get impatient and take unecessary risks. F5C is a Jack of all trades, it does everything more than average.
@lexmen1089
11 ай бұрын
I stop ya right there @@LeBron_888 , I have never, from this aircraft entire existence since the 2021 Export Order, EVER seen an single F-5 do a 1v1, let alone win it. They all the single biggest rats in the entire game.
@ricolives1166
11 ай бұрын
@LeBron_69 I'm uploading a video where I pulled off a 1v3 against 2 Mid 29s and a 23 in the F4S to win a game. The F4S is honestly better and more fun Edit: actually I posted a shorts first if you want to see it
@TejkenPL
11 ай бұрын
@@ricolives1166, it depends mate. It's decently easy to get kills at top tier if you have a PD radar. I'm playing f4j from time to time as I like the plane, and it's HMD, coz f14 and f16 lack it and get decent games, sometimes 5K if enemies are dumb enough. On your short, especially these two migs played it extreaaaamly poorly, otherwise 4s stand no chance against well played 12.0. Whereas f5c is essentially a top dog in it's BR, and personally, getting kills with it gives a proper dopamine shot, as oppose to locking enemy on radar, shooting an aim7 and the job is done. Glad you like your purchase anyways!
@thombrick
11 ай бұрын
@@lexmen1089what do you even mean? The F5-C is literally the best dogfighter premium you can get at those BR's. It's very easy to win 1v2 or 1v3 with it, very good maneuverability, retention and guns...
I have nearly 700 matches in the f5c and over 900 kills. In my experience the aim 9es are actually really good in this br if you use them correctly, over half of my kills are with the aim9e but you just need to know when and how to fire them. Just my personal opinion
@yourmotherisswell6904
10 ай бұрын
@SpankfireX I'll be waiting for the tutorial 👍😂
@SpankfireX
10 ай бұрын
@@yourmotherisswell6904 Just use them against the right targets damn it
don't worry lee, they might still add the f15a to israel first just like they did the f5 for china. i believe
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
There's a chance I guess
Why does he lowkey sound like matthew mcconaughey? Anyways cool content keep it up :)
the dummy good plane gets even better. no surprise
Yet i still must face them in a Shenyang
I bought a talisman for my F-5E so I could grind rank 8. Looks like I wasted some GE
Only thing I hate about the F-5C is that it only gets two AIM 9’s
@Spaceglider-official
10 ай бұрын
2 aim9s are fine, the bad thing is its two AIM9Es wich are just meh
nice outro man (vid 15) also i hate the f5c
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it :)
@mikeyplayz8438
11 ай бұрын
Y
@cl3matis
11 ай бұрын
because it completely collapsed the 10.3 matchmaker and made a lot of 9.7 planes utterly unplayable@@mikeyplayz8438
F-16 Block 50 looks meh though won't get any of the fun stuff it should come with.
What is better F5C or A6E?
aim9E is just aim9 b with improved seeker (sorry if someone already answered)
I don't have the f-5c and I have been playing for a while now completeing the whole german air tech tree. I've been wanting the f-5c for a while now trying to get it gifted to me via giveaways which obviously hasn't worked. But know they are upping the price meaning I probably wont ever get it ):
As A mig 23 I'm a impressed by nothing, by no one but this thing... 😱 it scars me
1:10 truly a buttcheek clenching moment
I think the F5C should go to 10.7 and/or gaijin sould decompress the 9.3 - 10.3
I still don't get why people buy F-5C instead of an AV-8A
I hope they will put F-5TH Super Tiger in the US Tech tree.
@Attack_The_D_Point
9 ай бұрын
And F-20
Can it go directly to tier VIII for a day??? 🥺 i really need the achievement that gives 1M sl
I would buy it but I already have a F-4e w/talisman so probably no. But if you starting the tech tree you should really consider it.
Oh F-ing Yeah.
F5a being the same plae but at 10.7 with 2 aim9ps
I'm all kinds of fucked up. I own the A10a , F-4s and F-5c. Been using them a ton and just unlocked the F-4c , F-4j , F-4e , f-14a and f-14b. Can someone PLEASE tell me why out of all these awesome planes the 2 i use the most are the F-5c and F-4c. I think it's the gunpods myself. Something about being slow and powerful brings me joy.
its not an upgrade if it shoulda already been this way
Into to the vid 10 out of 10 funny af also I do kind of find it bs how us usa main’s get the block 50 it’s like where did all of the other block’s go?
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
Block 30 please 😭
@Rageaben
11 ай бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000I know right like I was seeing that coming I thought it would come in 2024 if not 2025 but in the next update no way RIP F-15
Im a level 12 player, but i want to get the F-5C. But should i get the AV-8A since im a low level?
@Attack_The_D_Point
9 ай бұрын
Don’t get a top tier premium untill you are at least lvl 75
The F-15 isn't coming. I thought you heard? We are getting ANOTHER F-16.
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
Look at the pinned comment. I made this video last night before the devblog.
RIP Lee's F-15 dream
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
*sob*
You mean Mig28?
@elliot_12
11 ай бұрын
Lol 😂
Hi, how about nerf flight model?
oh neat
crazy how theyre making it better, im still shit at playing it tho 🔥
How do you get it to say A-10A [E]?
@GeneralLee2000
10 ай бұрын
You can enable a language mod on PC and change how text is displayed. I have a link in my discord.
The AA on the F5C will make it fail at rank 7, the basics of the F5C also won't really teach you much with the top tier planes. Its shit now, will be more shit at rank 7 and it being in rank 7 isn't a buff.
Will they give better missiles to the f5-c?
@blackopscw7913
10 ай бұрын
No
America slaps at this br. Recently spaded my sea harrier for the event and I think I lost less than 10% of the games I was teamed with US
@Attack_The_D_Point
9 ай бұрын
Funny because when I play the F-4F German phantom I almost always win bc US teams suck (premium lvl 3 players)
114 blind h-hunts?????
No f-15C... nor a fricken f111... VARKVARKVARK
What's better to buy f5c or a10?
@amaar6972
4 ай бұрын
U can get a10 from tech tree do not buy the premium one
SU25K rank VII where ??????????
Will it get better missles
@GeneralLee2000
10 ай бұрын
Nope
justice for A10
I have only av-8a 😊
WHERE EAGLE, GAIJIN?!
@GeneralLee2000
11 ай бұрын
WHERE
will they cahnge the price tho?
@SpiralShape
11 ай бұрын
Yes
I bought this for 30€ last sales. so haoopt rn.
Hopefully they give it the aim9j tho to make it better and if it sticks with aim9e I'm buying a6e or f4s
@elawaids2888
10 ай бұрын
theyre not giving it the aim9j because it never carried the aim9j
@Attack_The_D_Point
9 ай бұрын
The f5c has 9j
@Attack_The_D_Point
9 ай бұрын
@@elawaids2888to be fair, the f5c didn’t carry countermeasures
@elawaids2888
9 ай бұрын
@@Attack_The_D_Point the f5E has aim9Js not the F5c
@elawaids2888
9 ай бұрын
@@Attack_The_D_Point the f5c did carry countermeasures just as a pod on the bottom of the aircraft instead of the two little hubs on the fuselage
should i still buy it if i just got to rank 5?
@Zincboy1
11 ай бұрын
1. Wait for sales. It will cost you 35$ instead of 60 or 70 2. Maybe learn how to play jets/watch tutorials. 3.Get premium time. For 40$ (during sales) you get 1 year of premium time. You will not loose money from battles, increased research points and sl.
I have great success with the missiles. But thats because I only launch them from above at targets going less than mach .8 and when I am shooting from above. People cant out pull them and they also dont have sufficient time to flare. I also save them for later in the match because then most people have spent all their countermeasures, making it easier.
Ah yes, cuz this thing at 10.3 isnt already powerful enough with the best fly model, fastest velocity 20mms, and up to 5 unnerfed bullpups (unlike certain german variant. Honestly, if it goes up in BR too I more than happy accept this, but if it doesnt... Well I arleady did the event so I aint playing War Thunder till black friday and I get a Lazur-M.
@CruLisP
11 ай бұрын
Best flight model then what draken is? Basically 10.3 is very good for f5c
@emth12389
11 ай бұрын
@@CruLisP bro that guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about the f5c is not the best fly model in the game and it’s cannons aren’t that good decent not overpowered turn time is good and energy retention at high speeds it’s missiles are shit tho it should stay at 10.3 should not go to 10.7 because then it will face f14s
@lexmen1089
11 ай бұрын
@@CruLisP draken is a joke. But still, F-5C is just too god dang strong, and it just denies your existence no matter the planes, the only one that can fight it are soviet MiG-21s and a few French ones.
@lexmen1089
11 ай бұрын
@@emth12389 then if it is so bad, why so many people praise it? cannon HAVE the HIGHEST velocity, not 'best 20 hur dur' that goes to the M61 Vulcan. Missiles arent even considered on a GUN FIGHTER which is what this thing is, but essentialy dumber 9Js which themselves are dumber 9Ls. at 10.3 it is the best fly model, try to fight one when half of the vehicles there are delta wings. but hey, playing the game for 7 years is apparently not enough time to know anything about the game, gotta grind more I guess.
@emth12389
11 ай бұрын
@@lexmen1089 bro the best flight model is not the f5c dawg and like I said it’s fair at 10.3 if it were 10.7 would go against f14s an f5c isn’t near as good as a f14
Stupidly overpowered jet
put talisman on f5e