Hmmmm, “scrapped for undisclosed reasons” is a strange way of saying “now funded through black list military budget”

@toedrag-release

2 жыл бұрын

It was discontinued because it would create muscle imbalances causing pain when the suit would be off

@bionawye9059

2 жыл бұрын

@@toedrag-release buddy if they didnt say it was "scrapped" russia and china would create a countermeasure in 2 months.

@andresvalverde5182

2 жыл бұрын

@@bionawye9059 Nah, i don't think it's because of this. Infantry with exo-suits are still infantry, they're not impervious to small arms fire. What i think is the real reason, is that it's still very niche equipment which we will see only in small detachments in the future. It took years for protective vests to become economically and logistically sustainable. We need to have a much larger market, with much more competitors if exosuits are to be implemented for infantry as standard or even specialist issue. So far the price of one exosuit is around $100,000.00, it's no sustainable and would either cost the taxpayer tremendous amounts of money or the military will see other drawbacks from budget re-assignment.

@tazrgoober6893

2 жыл бұрын

@@toedrag-release thats implying they care if you hurt your joints in the first place

@toedrag-release

2 жыл бұрын

@@tazrgoober6893 they do if all their soldiers wind up with joint pain amd arent able to run properly. They can face legal issues as well.

"severe laceration detected" "Morphine administered"

@rickmaldoo4205

2 жыл бұрын

Private!!!! stop cutting yourself

@irtezakhan7869

2 жыл бұрын

A quote from Love death robots?

@delayedplayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@irtezakhan7869 it's a warning health message from the HEV suit from Half-Life

@BababooeyYcho66T

2 жыл бұрын

We’re going back to Normandy days WOOO

@theconfusedmexican704

Жыл бұрын

Like Rick's elecrronic spine

They probably have still continued it, just said that it's discontinued so that enemies don't have countermeasures against them. Edit: god this has created a revolutionizing war in the comments

@andrewiejaya3621

2 жыл бұрын

Fr 🤣

@thelordofnuggets629

2 жыл бұрын

No its because it wasn’t useful at all

@Andro.d

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelordofnuggets629 Damn...

@JohnVeritas

2 жыл бұрын

It was the awful battery life and the fact that walking around with 100+ lbs of dead weight would be impossible. The only other option was to leave it behind.

@briefcasegaming4460

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnVeritas I mean, you never know, governments have a lot of secret projects that the normal public don't know about. What I said is probably true and I also think all the information about the exoskeleton is false and only the government knows the truth.

You want to know the reason? What happens to a 100+ lb exo suit when the 30 minute battery dies?

@ThanhHoang-xi4qk

2 жыл бұрын

U put in another one.

@zabintasrik4488

2 жыл бұрын

Its already incredibly impractical and yes, once the battery dies you're stuck. Only a single battery might weigh as much as the suit itself so don't dream about having multiple.

@Gunnut3497

2 жыл бұрын

Or he gets a hydraulic leak

@HaloDude557

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThanhHoang-xi4qk so you’re going to carry 100 lbs of batteries on an op inn connection with your 100 lb exoskeleton and 100 lbs of conventional gear?

@1truthbegettingtold275

2 жыл бұрын

@@HaloDude557 Isn't there a way to power something like this using the movement itself?

"might be a reality soon" later: it was scrapped in 2019

@runertje550

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was just about to comment that. I hate these kind of KZreadrs that smear lies into your face to keep you watching the video

@chelyzmarx7477

Жыл бұрын

youtube short's plot twist 😆

@Shark_King325

6 ай бұрын

Lmao they most definitely did not “scrap the project for undisclosed reasons” they’re probably still working on it just don’t want our enemies knowing everything the US Military is up to

I swear I heard about this "coming soon" in 2016, it's literally 2022 and people are still saying the same thing.

@dimitris5866

2 жыл бұрын

@Deadpoppin Well, atleast that project is still going on.

@gundamt437

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the concept has been around a lot longer. The "hardiman" exosuit was around in the 1960's. Even before that there were earlier concepts. Many things we thjnk are new, have been around a lot longer, and the powers that be tend to throw some breadcrumbs here and there. They like to bring back up and tease us about upcoming technologies, then they make seem hush hush, then bring it back up again.

@Butcho22

2 жыл бұрын

Like global warming. It's always 5-10 years away lol

@dommyboysmith

2 жыл бұрын

They had the first ones already built around 20 years ago. Must be getting close to usage if it's been "discontinued" (aka top secret)

@mirceazaharia2094

2 жыл бұрын

They're using them in secret.

“I always come back” Us soldier1: what was that? Us soldier2: must be the wind

I remember what the problem was: it took the strain out of one part of the body and put it on another.

@wiseguy8438

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I know what youre talking about. I think I saw somewhere that this thing fucks up your lower back

@julianbrelsford

2 жыл бұрын

I guess if it properly supported the lower back, the transfer of force might cause issues further up the spine, up to the point where it has to support the head as well? If so, that point you've got to figure out how to let the person have reasonable mobility for their head and vision (look up down left right) while safely supporting the spine AND not cause brain injuries with jerky motion ....

@zee9709

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, its have to be proven completely independently move without human first, or else it just like u said

@thewhitewolf58

2 жыл бұрын

Spine wasnt strong enough

@bobfg3130

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewhitewolf58 In other words...bad design at best.

Probably discontinued because it would be to expensive to mass produce

@superslimex7416

2 жыл бұрын

@StarFish you don’t give every freaking soldier a tank

@dagoat2596

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, u nailed it. the government doesn't think that a soldiers life is worth millions lol

@cpK054L

2 жыл бұрын

@@dagoat2596 you underestimate the wastefulness of the USG.... the TSGLI is 1 million in combat. The bootcamp is already 40k just to ship you there with issue, the average training evolution, non spec op is several hundred thousand. The M16A2 is 2000 dollars not including attachments, the M16A4 is 4000, not including attachments like the 2000 dollar ACOG or the 900 dollar PEQ14 or the 120 dollar KABAR, or the 1200 AN/PVQ7B. All already dangerously overpriced compared to civilian equivalents that are better. The body armor total for plates and all are 5000 dollars for the set, an equivalent and better rated AR500 body armor is only 300. A stacked DDM4 is barely 1600 with optics. Trust me, the government dont care how much it costs

@bilbocoffeman1392

2 жыл бұрын

Nah it's cause the battery life issue. US soldiers already have about 75k they're carrying

@stormtrooper8420

Жыл бұрын

​@@bilbocoffeman1392 battery is a different technology, they can still work on the suit itself for better efficiency and practicality. Battery technology will evolve automatically theirs are a lot of private players so the government don't need to waste money on it

Discontinued because it caused muscle imbalances that can lead to pretty bad joint pain like patella femoral pain symdrome. Wile an exoskeleton sounds great on paper our bodys muscles and tendons are meant to respond in unison with eachother. We curl our biscep and we extend our tricep if we had a machine so that our bicep muscle was assisted our biscep wouldnt develop properly leading to our tricep being stronger this would cause joing pain in your elbow same for your legs

@aeureus

2 жыл бұрын

That's long term degradation of the muscle... 'use it or lose it'. That doesn't apply here; considering they aren't using it long term, are still *somewhat* using their muscles, and are all demanded to keep physically fit regardless.

@toedrag-release

2 жыл бұрын

@@aeureus not really if youre using this on patrol its definetly long enough to cause such imbalances especially when dealing with such heavy weights. You might be able to get away with an hour a day but 8 hours everyday for weeks is for sure enough to cause problems especially when it comes to your legs. If one side of you quad is too strong the other side atrophies this causes knee pain and is pretty common occurence with runners this exoskeleton would exasubate that by a considerable margin. A minor fix is physiotherapy however it can also lead to surguries on the knee scraping cartilidge also surguries to losen the tendons. Theres already been studies with exoskeletons causing these problems with civilian use its well documented and takes like a 2 second google search.

@little_lord_tam

2 жыл бұрын

Would a exo suit connected to your nervous system solve the problem as both will definitly work in unity?

@aeureus

2 жыл бұрын

@@little_lord_tam that's extremely complex and dangerous biomechanics and augmentation quite far beyond us now, and no it won't.

@toedrag-release

2 жыл бұрын

@@little_lord_tam Lol theoretically if none of you muscles had to be used because it was contolled via your mind then yes it would work. The biggest issue with these designs is that its basically strapped to your outer leg causing that part of your leg to atrophy however your inner leg muscle is still working albiet not as much this happening so much leads your legs developing improperly your inner leg will start to overcompensate to support your outer leg. This leads to bad knee pain, hip pain and lower back pain and can even results in needed surguries. Its better for a soldier to to walk with the weight your muscles develop in unison to be able to handle the weight.

Video: this exo suit might become a reality Same video 30 seconds later: the project has been cancelled

*insert elder scrolls joke here”

@Acs2004

2 жыл бұрын

May talos guide our swor- I mean bullets.

@veselinjokanovic3032

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it comes with a fus ro dah option.

@deutschundnorskgutt853

2 жыл бұрын

*Heimskr's screaming intensifies*

@tea4life430

2 жыл бұрын

Newer exo suits have a shout option in which users can blow ppl away w their voice

@learningsurvival9216

2 жыл бұрын

Cool down between shouts decrease by 25%

"Could be a reality soon". "The project has been scrapped"

Maybe, the military just decided steroids were cheaper!!!

@camelusdromedarius3789

2 жыл бұрын

SEALS don't need exosuits when they have meth

@echo3568

2 жыл бұрын

@@camelusdromedarius3789 marine raiders don’t need meth went they got C r a y o n s

@snakevenom4954

2 жыл бұрын

@@echo3568 Just wait until they learn that sniffing sharpies gives them a 28% boost to all physical activities. They'll be unstoppable

@realmoistcriticaltotally1043

2 жыл бұрын

@@echo3568 This physically made me laugh, you win the comment section 🏆

@ieladio3

Жыл бұрын

The nazis thought meth was a great way to make super soldiers.

"Combination of hydraulics and thermodynamics" Buddy no need to tell me you have no idea what the words coming out of your mouth mean.

@Men_Of_Culture33

2 жыл бұрын

I know what they mean lol

This would be awesome for anyone who works in construction.

When you put it on it says: welcome to the HEV mark4 for hazardous environment conditions 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

@itsleooX15

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao True Gordon Freeman will like it

Talos... TALOS HAS BLESSED US ONCE AGAIN

@justusP9101

2 жыл бұрын

Snuy

(EMP does off) Your entire army can physically not move at all

@ricefield1783

2 жыл бұрын

*takes off exo suit in middle of a battle*

@aeureus

2 жыл бұрын

**takes off suit** Ah so what was that? Something about an emp or smthn?

@user-th5fy8bg9c

2 жыл бұрын

@@aeureus but you can’t move 100lbs with your arm.

@dasavge14

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-th5fy8bg9c exactly

@aeureus

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-th5fy8bg9c you don't think they put in safeties? Plus, where did you get that weight factor from? It's an arm that you're moving, not an entire goddamn hippo rofl.

BROOO TALOS IS THE BEST FUCKING NAME FOR THOSE! I’m a nerd alright? The Talos Principle you play as a robot, in Skyrim the War God is named Talos. There’s even more examples out there but I don’t feel like listing them or looking them up

@Dang3rMouSe

2 жыл бұрын

I know a couple ppl who have contracted under DARPA & are big gamers. Acronym references like that are often intentional & fun little project inserts.

In 2021 French army started to developpe an Exosuit covering the back and legs to make soldiers less tired and walk longer without having to stop.

I work on exosuits as my job so this was a nice recommendation from KZread

"Why didn't they put it into production?" "Bean counters didn't thought a soldiers life was worth 300 grand." Batman Begins (2005)

🦇Wayne: "So, why wasn't the exoarmour issued to the troops?" 🦇Fox: "Because the government bean counters didn't believe a soldiers life is worth $300k!" 🦇

@iwankazlow2268

2 жыл бұрын

Because it had a battery life of 30 minutes and after that you are a sitting duck.

Discontinued = we didn't want to pay that much

@SW-ii5gg

2 жыл бұрын

After pouring in so many tax dollars for developing.

Praise Talos

"For undisclosed reasons" Were 20-30 years away from even being remotely close to making that viable.

I think I remember this a few years back where it initially was meant with people with body problems or injuries and this exo suit should help them move better as a normal person, but the article later says that it is now fully taken off from that project and transferred into a military funded project instead. Honestly I think it's pretty cool and interesting to see if it's ever release for the troops, but a part of me hopes it will still be released for the people who need it the most medically speaking.

It was scrapped because the exo-suits became like spring-lock suits and would start collapsing into the wearer or activate in a way that would severely harm the user and simply couldn’t be fixed with the current technology

It's all fun in games until your enemy has cheap NNEMP devices, or you get pinned down for a few hours and are out of battery. Also if the exosuit gets damaged or malfunctions it could lead to incapacitation or severe injury. It's worthless when these expensive pieces of equipment are easily beaten by slight changes in military tactic or the usage of new weapons like drones or NNEMPs. Storms can also interfere with those exosuits and cause issues.

@MizantropMan

2 жыл бұрын

A Chinook helicopter once got shot down with a single rocket. It blew half of one propeller blade and made the entire machine flip, crashing down and killing all 27 aboard. One in a million hit with an unguided missile. Does that make chinook absolete?

@koderamerikaner5147

2 жыл бұрын

@@MizantropMan No, but that's a rare occassion. Not every military can land a perfect shot or afford rockets like that. However, NNEMPs are not expensive and do not require direct and/or accurate hits in order to disrupt the exosuits. Also, as I said, a slight change in military tactic or even bad weather can render them useless in combat, which doesn't occur with a chinook. It's also meant to be mass produced, rather than a quality build like a vehicle (Chinook), meaning it will have a higher chance of malfunction and damage. As you said, "one in a million hit". That's incredibly rare, but NNEMPs and flexible military tactics along with thunderstorms aren't rare at all.

idk about combat but definitely good for long range patrol/infiltration, as soldiers would be less tired

You know it's not discontinued, the fear is the first soldier that dies wearing this apparatus. The enemies will get their hands on this technology! 💯

@ThePhatFilosopher

2 жыл бұрын

They might just implement a self destruct feature to get rid of the wearer and the tech once the soldier dies

@Michael-xp5mw

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhatFilosopher What if it the apparatus was shoot by accident and exploded with a live soldier wearing it? It would be better if it exploded if someone ever tried to remove it in an improper way! 💯 Elon Musk already spilled the secret about "Assassin drones" using facial technology!

@blursedvark4973

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhatFilosopher It wouldn’t be great for the family if their soldier became nothing but dust because of a self destruct feature. Also, there’d a lot of stuff that goes in making that self destruct.

I will need these when I'm older. My knees are all fubar.

"Blood loss detected. Morphine administered." But really, with all the knee and back problems caused by all the weight they carry, this should be perfected asap.

Elite special ops teams usually consist of older vets that have a ton of combat training and experience. So it would make sense to develop this tech and use it for assistance due to their most experienced soldiers aging

Tbh the last part sounds unreal

The "undisclosed reasons" was the fact that egg heads secretly (and ilegally) funneled the funds into a stealth helicopter project (the Comanche) that was also scrapped for "undisclosed reasons" (it was scrapped because people found out where the money I was coming from. And also the fact that the prototype was worthless tactically.)

Exo suits already exist, some car factory workers get them to reduce work injuries

"Hydraulics and thermodynamics"? Immediately skeptical.

Russians tested their Sapper-exoskeletons in Syria.

"Scrapped for undisclosed reasons" Soldiers got snapped.

"Protect the shins at all cost." "Well what about the knees?" "Fucke em"

Realized that enemy just started taking head shots and got accurate . I would shoot at knees, your knee would be gone , would be quickly captured by enemy in first engagement. Malfunctioning units bent wearer backwards and snapped backs all while monitoring vitals.

Exo suit: I sense you are depressed Soldier: ??? Also soldier: ahh fluffy rainbows

**Welcome to the H.E.V Mark 2, designed for use in Hazardous Environments.**

Suits like that are available in Japan for over 15 years for now, they’re mostly used in construction work and rehabilitation therapy

nanomachines son

Looks heavy

Just my opinion and thoughts If it's not being used for "special purposes" it was probably discontinued after being tested by soldiers as often happens with "special military projects" the people in charge of the "high quality equipment" try putting to much into one piece of equipment making it " not comfortable to use / not user friendly " which is actually very important for equipment meant for combat situations as a soldier having a issue with their gear could cause unnecessary damage & injuries and or deaths

Talos was supposed to be a suit filled with a proprietary gel which turned hard like steel when subjected to high pressure. This would have allowed the wearer easy mobility and also bullet proofing.

It could be used to help people walk if they were having some kind of problem walking mid battle or post battle. Prolly from a bullet in the leg or something

Hmm I could see this being a great use for combat medics, have to constantly run around, helps protect them slightly and if injured they can address themselves and possibly keep rendering aid if absolutely necessary.

I think an exo skeleton type thing would be interesting not for crazy power armor stuff but more to be able to take larger weapons that usually have to be mounted on vehicles, and give them the mobility of foot soldier. In difficult terrain were most vehicles would have a hard time operating in you could still have the firepower of an M2 .50cal or maybe a Mark19.

The way the homie was crawling 😂 even the look back looked like a lizard!

I remember reading the main reason they were scrapped was becuase they didn't actually bear the extra weight soldiers were carrying it just displaced it to the hips instead

The video "They might soon be become a reality" The video at the end "It was scrapped"

I think this would have made alot of sense for injured soldiers who have a broken leg to carry on

So the suit essentially helps the body overcome perceived physical limitations. The muscles are still working with the suit on but now you don’t have to power yourself through sheer will to move that extra mile, the suit does the work and consequently makes the muscles stronger while increasing endurance.

This would of been handy in world War 1 and 2

This could've been a revolutionary tech if people would've looked at it differently. Not for the military but for more common general use like construction workers or miners or for any heavy lifting

Imagine the added logistical nightmare of bringing power to the frontline for those things as well.

Soldiers in the future will look like a bunch of hawkins in exo if they let it do most of the work

Instead of making an exo-skeleton with exposed hydraulics, make a full-blown exo-suit. Imagine the enemy thinking they they have the upper hand because they have only seen some foot soldiers only to find out that those were recon and that the main force is a bunch of metallic juggernauts armed with heavy caliber machine-guns

That man really crawling, stopping and looking back just like a lizard

No solider would pay out of his pocket for ...

There are also similar devices to help paraplegics and people with mobility issues in their legs and back. Saw a video about this like a decade ago they've gotten much smaller since then

to the people talking about china making countermeasures, remember that we already have a near-perfect countermeasure to *life* , BULLETS

2019: the “crowbar man” incident

Undisclosed reasons being a soldier's life isn't worth the expense.

All fun and games until Kevin Spacey makes a company called Atlas

Can you imagine how uncomfortable it could never work.

Exo suit vs child soldier

I need to try one of them for my bad hip. That would be awesome.

I definitely want to see this in the civilian market for purposes such as utility work, construction, and for people with bodily and neural dysfunctions like mild cerebral palsy. The application of this device would help millions of people in the world.

I feel like there was that one guy who suddenly thought he had superpowers and broke his back…

I first heard about TALOS before I joined the Army and was super excited about it. I still think int’s in development. Oh and the armor plating that’s worn over the rig is extremely bad ass

they got scrapped because " *NANO-MACHINE SON!? IT HARDEN AT THE SIGN OF STRESS* "

I don’t think it’ll be automatically patching you up but I do think it will be able to read your pulse, if they actually produce more of it that is

I'm pretty sure this is still a on going project.

safety mode: as energy goes lower, lesser support it gives

“Scrapped for unknown reasons” Cash rules everything around me

"Undisclosed Reasons." Like ripping off your legs because it kept moving when you stopped.

Damn, sounds more like the HEV suit xD That would be badass though if they went through with it!

Exo suits wont be in regular forces for a very very long time. But I can see them in the logistics part. Exo suits there dont need to be fancy at all, but they can allow one person to do a 4 people job. That takes a lot of stress from the logistics. Remember for one soldier there 1 and a half guy keeping him in the fight. An exo suit might be very valuable there and make room for money to go somewhere else

I would want 1 of these just so i can sit in public without chairs

I wonder how this affects medic’s ability to render aid. Seems like it would be in the way of tourniquets and stuff. Super cool idea though if it‘a able to hold protective plates as well.

Talos be praised

Bro imagine if it get locked

The amount of power needed for the suit to carry out these tasks would be enormous. Our battery technology is is just so far behind.

The issue with all these programs is that we don’t have power sources that can power these for long periods of time that are also compact enough. So unless you want to have guys in the field hot swapping batteries every 2-4 hours you’re pretty screwed.

Prolly be good for paralyzed people.

@vigvaryb

2 жыл бұрын

How.. this helps you take strain off your muscles, not replace them

It needed self healing for itself.

Take some advice from an actual Engineer.... (Not TF2 related.) That Exo suit is going to get more people killed than going to war, and it can kill you in multiple ways, such as. -EMP -Battery explosion -Overheating -Direct movement malfunction (Can break bones.) -Bone break by landing on your body (Fatal) When I'm issued this, I'm not going to wear it, ever.

Those active support exosuits wont be a thing unless they develop better batteries first, passive ones are pretty good today at least at what they di

It’s not now but eventually it will be. I say the first step is to get rid of all those extra features about your health status and whatnot - that will probably extend the development time by another 10 years when in the present it’s not needed. If it is something we can wear that holds our weight and the gear on us and assists in all manner of movement, that’s already major.

Scrapped for undisclosed reasons... because they have much better ones now!!

It’s ahead of its time. They haven’t fully announced 👽 yet

Reloading! Recharging! ...

Futuristic looks a lot like the thing they made 15 years ago.

In future I need this suit for my back injured and my legs too.